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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: JuneNZ on Friday 07 September 12 10:16 BST (UK)
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Robert Hamilton Wilson, Farmer, and Jane Wilson (nee Wilson) of Christchurch. This couple are detailed as the parents of Violet Elizabeth Wilson, of Belfast, on her marriage certificate dated 7/10/1909 (Violet was aged 25 and married Arthur Buchly) The witness was Gladys Wilson, Belfast, Chch.
I am having difficulty in locating arrival in NZ, burial details etc for this couple. I ordered a death cert for a Jane Wilson buried with Robert in Kaiapoi cemetery however her maiden name was Mcconnell or similar.
Family history indicates that Robert and Jane may have come from Ireland.
I cannot locate Violet in the NZ Birth records either. Would anyone have any information re these people? Regards, June
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Same name has a child 1871
1871/26949 Wilson Margaret Hamilton parents Margaret and Robert Hamilton WILSON
Bye
Althea
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marriage certificate dated 7/10/1907 (Violet was aged 25 and married Arthur Buchly)
Hello...
Note three different surname spelling :-)
And the year of marriage is different to what you posted.
BDM NZ Marriages - 1909/5537 - Violet Elizabeth WILSON to Arthur Otto BUCKLY - d.o.m 7 Oct 1909
BDM NZ Deaths - 1955/30301 - BUCKLEY, Arthur Otto - 81 years - d.o.d 17 Feb 1955
BDM NZ
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search/
If it's of interest, here's a possible death for Violet but, assuming her age at marriage is right, her age at death is off by four years
BDM NZ Deaths - 1959/28952 - BUCKLEY, Violet Elizabeth - 73 years
May need to check the BDM NZ Deaths fiche for a registrstion district as there's no obvious deaths on the NZSG Burial Locator (which usually means the Cremation Society was involved)
It may be worth sending an email to the Christchurch Cremation Society as cremations don't show on the cemetery database
http://christchurchcitylibraries.com/familyhistory/deathburial/funeraldirectors/
Regards
Beg
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A GLADYS in school records
Name WILSON Gladys
School Belfast
Admission Date 19 Sep 1892
Parent / Guardian Robert WILSON
Birthdate 26 Sep 1887
Bye
Althea
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Could she have gone by LIZZIE
Name WILSON Lizzie
School Belfast
Admission Date 15 Sep 1894
Parent / Guardian Robert WILSON
Address Belfast
Birthdate Oct 1885
**another record has BD as Birthdate
07 Oct 1884**
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I don't know if you had other children but if not to help build a picture.there is Caroline/Carrie and this birth matches a school record
1891/3074 Wilson Samuel parents Jane and Robert
Bye
Althea
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:)) Thank you all so much. The children that I have been advised by an elderly family member (and I have a photo of the parents and some of the children) are: Robert, Gladys (married George Robertson) Caroline (married Fowl) Emmie (married Englefield) Ann (married Jack Murfitt) Sam (married Elsie?) half brother William, Mary and Meg. Thank you Althea this would be the Margaret. It appears that the half brothers/sisters may have been older than Violet Elizabeth and perhaps I should be searching for Robert and a Margaret arriving in NZ. Violet and Arthur are cremated and their ashes are in the Linwood Crem. I will contact the cremation society to see whether this was a family trend. A shame that I cannot search today!Regards, June
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1891/3074 WILSON, Samuel - parents Jane and Robert
Hi again...
Samuel served in WW1. Maybe start a thread requesting his Service file be digitised. There may (or may not) be some helpful info on his attestation.
Cenotaph WW1 databse
http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/Cenotaph/76951.detail?Ordinal=2&c_serialnumber_search=26356
WILSON, Samuel - WW1 26356 - Army 1914 - 1918
http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22022071
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Here is an example of an Army Service digitisation request thread.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,608038.0.html
There is no cost to you except for the debt of gratitude.
Regards
Beg
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Hi again...
I think this is the funeral notice for Robert Hamilton WILSON because North Road in Belfast is mentioned on Samuel's Cenotaph entry.
The notice says that he is buried at Addington Cemetery
PapersPast - Press - 3 November 1914 - Page 9 - Advertisements Column 6
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0qw9/
Addington Cemetery
Robert A WILSON
http://librarydata.christchurch.org.nz/Cemeteries/interment.asp?id=89073
A Jane WILSON is in the adjacent plot. Possibly his wife.
http://librarydata.christchurch.org.nz/Cemeteries/interment.asp?id=47745
Corresponds to...
BDM NZ Deaths - 1914/8483 - WILSON, Robert Hamilton - 70 years - d.o.d 31 Oct 1914
BDM NZ Deaths - 1945/30823 - WILSON, Jane - 85 years - d.o.d 21 Oct 1945
BDM NZ Search
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search/
You might want to get in touch with the cemetery website and tell them that they have the wrong middle intial for Robert. Also that they have Jane buried two and a half weeks before she died.
Regards
Beg
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Hello June
Recently got an alert to another thread where you'd asked the question about the Robert and Jane WILSON buried at Kaiapoi. But I had made a note of the Robert Hamilton WILSON (and wife Jane) you were searching for when I next visited the library (to check place of death of Robert Hamilton WILSON, died 1914).
Beg has just beaten me to posting the Addington burials for your couple ... :D .
However, some further info ...
It appears that there is an M/I (headstone inscription) for Robert Hamilton WILSON (and possibly also for Jane), at Addington Cemetery.
Robert Hamilton WILSON
d. 1914 -- aged 70 years
Addington Cemetery, Christchurch - M/I
Reference (microfiche - Addington Cemetery burials) Q10.01
I did try to find this, but my library appears to be missing the particular microfiche (or as often happens - the fiche had been mis-filed). ::)
So if you have access at your local library to the NZSG Cemetery microfiche, then you should be able to find it with the above reference number.
~ Lu
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Here is a possible marriage for a Samuel marrying an Elsie
Year 1918
Surname WOODHAM Given Names Elsie May
Spouse Samuel WILSON
Bye
Althea
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Many thanks Althea. I see in the Four Ships project that someone has a write up under Thomas Wilson, son of Robert and Margaret. Papers past has the death of Margaret Wilson wife of Robert Wilson, aged 56 in the Press on 4 march 1876. There is also a marriage announcement of Wiliam Marshall youngest son of the late Mr Robert Wilson of the Seven Mile Peg, North Rd to Margaret Hanna on 18 November 1890. I am thinking that the Robert Hamilton Wilson that I am looking for may have been second generation to NZ.
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Canterbury 1st Four Ships Records
Name
WILSON Robert
Date 16 Dec 1850
Age 35
Occupation Labourer
Accomodation Embarked at Plymouth
Ship Charlotte Jane
Embarkation Plymouth
Margaret was 32, Thomas infant, Sarah 4, Samuel 6
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Thank you Althea, I have just ordered death certificates for R H Wilson dod 1914 and Jane Wilson dod 1945. (The couple who are buried in the Addington cemetery.) Hopefully these will be the right ones and may lead me back. Regards, June
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Death Certificates have arrived.
Robert Hamilton Wilson, Farmer DOD 31 Oct 1914, aged 70. where died North Rd, Belfast. Father William Wilson, Mother, Margaret Wilson formerly Hamilton, Prof of father, Farmer. Where buried, Addington. Where born, Cty? Down Ireland, How long in NZ, about 55 years. Married 1). Chch aged about 23, Margaret Moffat, 2). Chch aged 40, Jane Wilson. Living issue at date of death 1) 1 male 44, 2 Female 43,41. 2). 2 males, 27,23, 5 females, 28,26,24,21,19.
Jane Wilson, widow, dod 21 Oct 1945, aged 85. Address 778 North Road, Belfast. Father John Wilson, Mother Margaret Wilson (Dunlop), Prof of father, Labourer. Buried Crematorium Bromley 23 Oct 1945. Where born County Down, Ireland, how long in NZ over 61 years. Married in CHch aged 24 to Robert Hamilton Wilson. Issue living m, 60,53. F 61,58,56,51,49
They appear to be the couple however the ages of the children are slightly out of alignment. Perhaps the family member reporting Jane's death had a faulty memory? Interesting that there is a plot for Jane at Addington. Off to the crematorium society next. Regards, June
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Hi there. My great grandfather was Robert Wilson with Jane Mackie as his wife. There were a few Wilsons in the Kaiapoi area and is confusing. The above were from Scotland - Castle Douglas and Dumfries. They emigrated to Lyttelton on the "Joseph Fletcher" July 1856. (I have the embarkation order) Robert's brother was William (Cabbage" Wilson who was first mayor of Christchurch in 1868.
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Hi there. My great grandfather was Robert Wilson with Jane Mackie as his wife. There were a few Wilsons in the Kaiapoi area and is confusing. The above were from Scotland - Castle Douglas and Dumfries. They emigrated to Lyttelton on the "Joseph Fletcher" July 1856. (I have the embarkation order) Robert's brother was William (Cabbage" Wilson who was first mayor of Christchurch in 1868.
Thank you Bruce. You will be able to find a lot of information on the general family. I was lucky enough to be gifted a copy of the book "The Seven Mile Peg" which is quite detailed on my husbands ancesters brother and family. There was also a wrong turn in getting a death cert for Jane Wilson buried at Kaiapoi, husband Robert. She was Jane McConnell. So many Jane and Robert Wilsons! Thank you for the history of the Joseph Fletcher, I had viewed this list and not ruled it out. Kind regards, June
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Robert Hamilton arrived lyttleton chch on .21.2.1856 aboard sir Edmund Paget.with his mother and brothers samuel and Johnny,sister agnes.his father and brother william arriving earlier.he initially married Margaret Moffat,producing William,Mary,and Margaret.upon.her death he married Jane,having 7 more children.violet born 1884 m Arthur buckley.1885 robert hamilton.nm.agnes 1887 m Robinson? Sarah b 1889, samuel (my grandfather) b1891 m Elsie may woodland.Annie b 1893 m j.murfitt,and finally Amy in 1895. Unsure where the Hamilton came from but at least two in each generation have that middle name.violet had 5 children Jean,Arthur.Ella,Leila,and Nancy. I have complete family tree of r.h.Wilson's descendants researched by my aunt some 50 yrs ago .
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Sorry.samuel m.Elsie may woodham.
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One of the old family photos that we have has Sam Wilson in it. Did the personal messages arrive Paul? Regards, June
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Hello,
I just came across this thread and wondered if some information I have gathered from records of Killinchy Presbyterian Church in County Down, Northern Ireland might be relevant given the details in earlier posts. These are just from my notes trying to research Wilson family living in Killinchy, particularly Ballymacashen townland.
There was a Robert Wilson, son of William and Margaret Hamilton from Ballymacashen, born 05 July 1844 and baptised 21 July 1844. I thought this could be your Robert Hamilton Wilson?
Other children of that couple that I've got notes on were William, born 11 Dec 1838 and baptised 16 Dec 1838 and Mary, born 23 Nov 1846, baptised 09 Feb 1847.
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I thank you for your message. It most certainly is the correct family that my husband is descended from. Any information that you could share would be appreciated. I have some items but you may have different information. If I can remember how to send you a direct message perhaps we could share contact details? Kind regards, June
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Hello,
My great, great-grandparents are Robert Hamilton Wilson and Margaret Moffat. Their daughter, Mary, is my great-grandmother. She married John William Lovell and lived on a little farm near New Plymouth.
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Hello Robyn, I am not sure whether you still look at this site, however, I happened to come across your comment regarding a Mr. Wilson marrying a Margaret Moffat. I am interested in the Moffat connection as that is a line of my family which I am currently researching. The general area of that part of County Down is where my Moffat connections resided and occupied substantial farms, in the Townlands neighbouring Ballymacashen, such as Barnamaghery and Creevycarnonan, near Crossgar. I would definitely be interested in communicating with you further. Many Thanks, Peter.