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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: tonyrodaway on Monday 10 September 12 09:00 BST (UK)
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most are buried in commonwealth graves or family plots
STILL NEED HELP WITH THESE 5.
PTE.33036 J NIELD DIED 13/11/1918 TIMPERLEY COM,CHRIST CHURCH
PTE 66708 A JACKSON DIED 14/05/1917 BOLLINGTON ST JOHN
PTE.73593 JOHN LOMAS DIED 09/06/1917 ASHTON U LYNE
PTE 24882 J A MERCER DIED 20/07/1916 ASHTON U LYNE
I also have a post in the Lancashire section,
any help greatly appreciated kind regards tony
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Hi Tony
I've found the two Wallasey graves(Skirrow and Smith) and will send the photos to you soon.
I'll try to look for D.Terry later this week - can't seem to see him on the CWG but will go to look soon.
Regards
Neptune
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CHEERS NEPTUNE,. I have had trouble finding D TERRY,no rush with photos,. thanks again tony
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Hi again Tony -
You're welcome
I found the burial details for Douglas Terry this evening at the library. His occupation is stated as a cotton salesman - I thought it would have said soldier.
Eventually found his grave- the numbering system in Flaybrick is often a challenge! I have a photo of the family grave - private Terry's name is at the bottom and says 'died of wounds'.
Ancestry has his pension details and medal index card - Liverpool Regiment number 15236.
Don't know why he's not on the CWG site.
I'll send the photos to you soon
Hope this helps
Neptune
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http://www.infromthecold.org/index.asp
Reference Douglas Terry its possible he could be a post discharge non commemorated soldier
You would need a death certificate if it was related to his wounds I think with a surviving record there's a good chance he will be added to CWGC
Maybe you could report him to the link above...he may already be on their radar
Ady
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great work neptune, , I'll pass this on to the pals committee, and see what they have on Douglas Terry ,no rush with photo
ADY, I will forward this to the, in from the cold project asp,
I am a moderator on the manchester regiment forum, and we have brought a few in from the cold, just need to get all the information together, to make sure we have the right man,
this as made my day cheers tony ;D ;D ;D
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Tony re "PTE.33036 J NIELD DIED 13/11/1918 TIMPERLEY COM,CHRIST CHURCH "
Timperley is now part of Trafford and a local has created a website for all Trafford's War Dead, a massive work that's being going on since the 90s. It does have this soldier, mentions other memorials he's listed on & a few other details & they say they have a grave photo, so may be worth contacting them (shrunk link):
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0r12/
Website home page:
http://www.traffordwardead.co.uk/
Best wishes with the project
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thank you mshrmh , i will have a look in , cheers tony
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Hi Tony
You're welcome -just pleased to find him.
If it's any help I did already have a newspaper report with a photo of private Terry's funeral at Flaybrick (for a different project) so I thought he must be buried there but just couldn't find him on the CWG site.
The report says he had a military funeral and a bit more background. The address is the same as Ancestry.
I'm at work at the moment but will check it again later. I can send it to you with the photos
if you'd like to see it
There's a D.Terry on the Birkenhead War Memorial.
Regards
Neptune
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hi neptune, i have pm you, as for D.Terry on the Birkenhead War Memorial. I
would say that's our man, a great big thanks, tony ;D
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I have photographed virtually all the war graves on the Wirral and a lot of private memorials if you need anything else.
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hi Certacito, I am still looking for others but they are outside of the Wirral , in cheshire, and lancashire, , thank you for your offer if i need help i will get incontact. regards , tony
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pte douglas terry didnt die of wounds,he was shot in the back at trones wood on 10th july 1916 but recovered from this wound,but in december 1916,he developed valvular heart disease,if this was his cause of death,then hes not entitled to CWGC status
mack
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hi mack, I have just got hold of his pension records, he was discharged 28/03/1917 , on the 13/08/1917 was awarded 100 per cent disablement,
he died on the 11/09/1917 the gun shot was in his left of back, I need someone to look over these records I am having a problem reading them, tony
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If it says anywhere on record VDH was attributable or made worse by Active Service then you should get a favourable result from MOD ...Death cert is the way forward
Ady
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hi andy, death certificate on its way.
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hiya tony.
i.ve had a read of his records,the condition wasnt caused by his wounding,but the doctors attributed it to the stress of active service+training,the medical board stated that his condition will get worse,you need to send his pension records off to the CWGC as well as the death cert when it arrives,i think you may have some success if they see both documents
BTW.its not the CWGC who decide if a soldier gets commemorated,they only submit his details to the MOD
mack
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hi mack, thanks for that i was unable to make out the writing, just waiting for the death certificate, as long as I get him commemorated that will do for me, cheers mack, catch you later. tony
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Not sure of the rules etc but just for information, my great uncle got a CWGC headstone and he drowned in 1919, circumstances unknown. He was still in the forces at the time though.
In my various trips photographing graves it appears that some families did not want the official stone for whatever reason but preferred to commemorate on family stones.
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hi Certacito , its not a headstone we are after for ,PTE 15236 DOUGLAS TERRY
its his name to be commemorated by the MOD and the cwgc , to bring him in from the cold.
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STILL NEED HELP WITH THESE 5.
PTE.33036 J NIELD DIED 13/11/1918 TIMPERLEY COM,CHRIST CHURCH
PTE 66708 A JACKSON DIED 14/05/1917 BOLLINGTON ST JOHN
PTE.73593 JOHN LOMAS DIED 09/06/1917 ASHTON U LYNE
PTE 24882 J A MERCER DIED 20/07/1916 ASHTON U LYNE
any help greatly appreciated kind regards tony
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hiya tony
33036 james,william neild[not nield]
son of john+alice,14 pinnington lane,stretford
married alice heywood 1915 at stretford
aged 25
worked at metro vickers trafford park as a iron driller
educated victoria park council school,stretford
attended st.matthews church,stretford
died in hospital liverpool[possibly 1st western gen hospital,warrington]
remembered on stretford town memorial,st.matthews church memorial,metro vickers memorial,stretford WW1 memorial book and victoria park school memorial
if you google trafford war dead,then click on stretford memorials,you will find pictures of all these memorials,the victoria park memorial has been lost but there is a photo
mack
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51687 avard forsyth smith died in the 1st london general hospital,he was living at 9 maldwyn rd,wallasey at the time,his father was a master mariner,avard was born at sea
23636 john skirrow died in 4th northern general hospital lincolnshire,resided at 15 hoseside rd,wallasey,aged 24
mack
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cheers mack, I was sent the headstone photos for smith, and skirrow and SMITH, FREDERICK ALFRED drowned at sea , sunk by u101
Rank: Mate
Date of Death: 30/05/1918
Age: 54
Regiment/Service: Mercantile Marine
S.S. "Waneta" (London)
Panel Reference Memorial TOWER HILL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Husband of Rosaline Smith, of 9, Maldwyn Rd. Liscard, Wallasey. Born at Falmouth, Nova Scotia.
dont wonder i had trouble with william neild, thanks for the info mack