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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Leicestershire => Topic started by: Danone on Sunday 16 September 12 21:36 BST (UK)
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:) :) :)Hi all
is there any one who may be able to help with this
i found our charles cooper born 1800 barlestone leicestershire i found his mum and dad with a john timbrill 1 aug 1828 also william ward cooper elizabeth hall thomas & mary cooper markfield &
thomas timbrill 6th july 1830 william ward cooper lab with elizabeth hall again thomas and mary cooper markfield .
but cant find any thng else on this
please can you help
many thanks
Danone
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Could John and Thomas be in Hinckley 1841
HO107 piece 601 folio 3/9 page 11
Parents William and Elizabeth
Also found this marriage
Thornton 04-Jun 1833 Lic
William Ward Cooper OTP Bach 26+
Sarah Hextall Stanton under Bardon Spin 25+
the other ref with it is B: Stanton under Bardon Wit: Joseph
Dowell & Mary Ann Weller
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:) :) :)Hi
willsey
many tahnks for sending that to me ,thats all there was on that i tryed to find out more but no luck we know that thomas was the father of our charles and his mother but didnt know what the timbrill family had got do with it. so who did john timbrill marry and who did thomas timbrill marry .
Danone
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:) :) :)Hi willsey
found out about john timbrill 26th aug 1827 born hinckley leice william timbrill married elizabeth cooper 1801-1854
parents of john timbrill was, Mary and Thomas cooper her parents also need to now about Thomas Timbrill 6th of Jan 1830 ,william ward cooper lab to elizabeth hall <was william ward coopers parents thomas and mary cooper his mum and dad > if so this is my mums family history markfield and was Thomas Timbrill johns brother or cousion or uncle> at the end of this it states markfield leicester, i think i found elizabethes marriage to william timbrill as 1855 hinckley oct -nov-dec also found john timbrills christing as 15th sept 1827 saint marys hinckley eng.
many thanks
Danone
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Hi willsey
right mary cooper est year of birth about 1778
rel mother where born markfield leicestershire
civil parish markfield
thomas cooper est birth year 1822 son relation head mother mary
husband of mary est birth about 1781 where born markfield leicestershire
son joseph cooper age 6
sarah hannah cooper age 3 , i have also charles cooper christing 23rd march 1800 barlestone leicestershierfather thomas cooper and that came from the mormen website and they say thomas 1754 market bosworth sister Hannah cooper female 08 oct 1832father thomas cooper mother mary
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markfield leicester also told that they may have moved here between 1800-1802< joseph cooper 05 jun 1836 mothers name ann cooper again sister of charles ann cooper born 1802 father thomas mother mary cooper.thomas cooper son of mary and thomas bap 1822.from Anc thomas cooper father they say he age 60 on the 1841 census abt 1781markfield sparkenho market bosworth,Hannah cooper married charles clapham
Danone
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Looked up the Timbrell marriage 1855 and it is register office
and also found
Death
Name: William Ward Cooper
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1839
Registration district: Ashby de la Zouch
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 15/22
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Just found a tree that has his death 25 Oct 1839 in Hugglescote, daughter Jane marrying Henry Baggott but not checked it all out
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Went looking for John Timbrell, again a tree
Parents are William and Elizabeth Cooper marrying at Dadlington 12 Dec 1825
There's a few siblings
Elizabeth 1801-1854
John goes on to marry his cousin Sarah Timbrell 31 Oct 1852 Aston Warwickshire
There's also a Charlotte Cooper c1832 Markfield marrying a William Timbrell 1857, son of Elizabeth Cooper
Found
IGI
groom's name: William Timbrell
bride's name: Charlotte Cooper
marriage date: 03 May 1857
marriage place: Aston Juxta Birmingham,Warwick,England
indexing project (batch) number: M01168-5
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0918846-848, 0918849-851
groom's name: John Timbrell
bride's name: Sarah Timbrell
marriage date: 31 Oct 1852
marriage place: Aston Juxta Birmingham,Warwick,England
indexing project (batch) number: M01168-4
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0919797-799, 0919800, 0918845-46
groom's name: Thomas Timbrill
bride's name: Hannah Burdett
marriage date: 22 Jan 1884
marriage place: Ashby-Magna, Leicester, England
indexing project (batch) number: I01345-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 952287
groom's name: Isaac Timbrell
bride's name: Anne Bayliss
marriage date: 27 Feb 1864
marriage place: Aston Juxta Birmingham,Warwick,England
indexing project (batch) number: M01168-5
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0918846-848, 0918849-851
There's also Sarah and Mary
The 1855 marriage is a second marriage to Ann Jacques
1851 HO107; Piece: 2082; Folio: 380; Page: 7
1871RG10; Piece: 3237; Folio: 60; Page: 12
I found this just to add to the pot
Joseph Timbrell marriage Mary Cooper Earl Shilton 17 Dec 1761 'He of Nailston'
I think they may have lived Narborough
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Looking at where William is 1881, wondering about this
1845 3 TINBROW Sarah Hinckley 15 117
marrying Joseph Jackson
and Mary Timbrell married 1861 to either Thomas Spiers or William Sylvester
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Looking at Joseph 1841, making a guess he is your Charles son going by 1861 census
RG09 piece 2266 folio 74 page 9
Thornton
Joseph Cooper M MARR Ann Bown 24 JAN 1860 Father Charles Cooper Father John Bown
G & B: ofa, labourer, servant,
Wit: John
Cooper & Alice Elliot
1851 HO107 piece 2083 folio 408 page 15 son of Charles and Elizabeth
Thornton 28-Nov 1830 Banns Charles Cooper Stanton under Bardon
Elizabeth Geary Stanton under Bardon
Wits Wit: William Geary & Ann Hopkinson
1841, Charles and family opposite page to Thomas and Mary Cooper
Thornton
John Elliott M MARR Alice Cooper 21 NOV 1858 Thomas Elliott Charles Cooper
G: ofa, widower, labourer B: ofa, servant,
both Stanton under Bardon,
Wit: Abraham Cooper & Mary Ann Brooks
name: Alice Geary Cooper
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 03 Dec 1833
baptism/christening place: Ashby-de-la-Zouch, Leicester, England
father's name: Charles Cooper
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: I04593-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1482365
name: John Cooper
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 20 Oct 1835
baptism/christening place: Ashby-de-la-Zouch, Leicester, England
father's name: Charles Cooper
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: I04593-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1482365
Ashby De La Zouch
John Wallis M MARR Elizabeth Cooper 12 APR 1848 Owen Wallis Charles Cooper
Groom of Peterborough, bride otp, by
license. Groom traveller, his father,
farmer. Bride's father, stonemason.
Wits: Charles & Jane Cooper
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1871 still with Ann and children
Stanton Under Bardon
RG10 piece 3242 folio 79 page 9
Joseph Cooper M 33 Mashfield, Leicestershire
wife Anne Cooper F 32 Thurlstone, Leicestershire
daughter Jane Cooper F 9 Stanton Under Bardon, Leicestershire
daughter Elizabeth Cooper F 7 Stanton Under Bardon, Leicestershire
son John William Cooper M 3 Stanton Under Bardon, Leicestershire
brother-in-law George Bown M 17 Thornton, Leicestershire
1881 Ibstock RG11 folio: 3135 / 104 page number: 33
1891 RG12 piece 2507 folio 54 page 40 mother in law Martha Bown
1901 RG13 piece 2967 folio 11 page 13
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Where can I find the Elizabeth Hall reference?
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Another marriage for you to keep on hold, needs the original record as no surname for Thomas
Thornton
Thomas ??? M MARR 17 SEP 1817 Elizabeth Cooper
Wit: John Cooper, Ann Holmes & John Geary
a ref I have has
Elizabeth Cooper OTP
Thomas Holms OTP
AND
Dadlington 12-Dec 1825 B
Elizabeth Cooper OTP
William Kimbrell OTP
Been looking at this too
Leicestershire, England, Extracted Parish Records about Thomas Cooper Mary Ward
Text: Thomas Cooper, grazier, p. Mountsorrel, & Mary Ward, lic. 11 Dec 1804
Book: Calendar of Wills Proved and of Administrations Granted in the Commissary Court of the Peculiar and Exempt Jurisdiction of Groby, 1580-1800. (Will)
Collection: Leicestershire: - Register of Marriages, 1560-1837
and have at last found a ref for you to chase because of the date
Sileby 11-Dec 1804 L Mary Ward OTP Spin 20+
Of her father William Ward Grazier
Thomas Cooper Mountsorrel Bach 22
IGI
parents: Thos. Cooper, Mary
name: William Ward Cooper
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 04 Feb 1807
baptism/christening place: Mount Sorrel, Leicester, Leicester, England
father's name: Thos. Cooper
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: I06824-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1482399
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From the batch no
Baptisms to Thomas and Mary
Thomas Cooper 24 Sep 1805 Mount Sorrell, Leicester
William Ward Cooper
John Cooper 09 Dec 1808 Thornton, Leicester
Arthur Cooper 08 Apr 1811 Thornton, Leicester
James Newberry Cooper 16 Nov 1812 Thornton, Leicester
Louisa Cooper 24 Jun 1814 Thornton, Leicester
Marianne Cooper 11 Jul 1818 Thornton, Leicester
Hannah Cooper 03 Feb 1821 Thornton, Leicester
Alfred Cooper 27 Jun 1827 Thornton, Leicester
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Thornton
Richard Nuttall M MARR Marianne Cooper 14 JAN 1840 William Nuttall Thomas Cooper
G: ofa Leicester, Draper,
B: ofa, gentleman's daughter,
Wit: HannahCooper
John Jones M MARR Hannah Cooper 11 SEP 1841 William Jones Thomas Cooper
G: 29 silk manu, B: 21 gentleman's
daughter Wit: Thomas Cooper & Sarah Goodrich
Thornton 1841 Thomas 59 grazier and Hannah 20
HO107; Piece: 603; Folio: 12; Page: 18
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Hi willsey
Many thanks mate for all you have found out about my mums family can you do me another favour please can have a look at charlotte as well for me to see whom she married or when she was born and died.
thanks
Danone
i have the cooper dec list
I have the marriage of elizabeth and charles cooper 28th day of Nov 1830 in thornton they were married in the parish church after banns with consent of parents but they didn,t put their names on the marriage so i dont know here mums name or dad ,i do know whom charles mum and dad is ,she was elizabeth geary born 1810 stanton under bardon.the marriage was solemnised between us charles cooper
elizabeth geary
marriage in the presents of william geary
ann hopkinson
clerk john geary
william geary lived at stoke heys farm ratby lane markfield No 60 charles and elizabeth lived there in 1851
i think william geary was her brother or uncle and john geary was her brother ,
No of marriage was 117
if you can find out about this as well that would help me as well.
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Here you go
Family search
groom's name: William Timbrell
bride's name: Charlotte Cooper
marriage date: 03 May 1857
marriage place: Aston Juxta Birmingham,Warwick,England
indexing project (batch) number: M01168-5
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0918846-848, 0918849-851
Don't know any more about Charlotte
There's this one
Newtown Linford 12-Oct 1801 B
William Geary Markfield
Elizabeth Bott OTP
So looked at Geary
Thornton 05-Mar 1833 L
John. Jnr. Geary Markfield Bach 29+
Ann Mason OTP Spin 21+
John Geary M MARR 5 MAR 1833 Ann Mason G: the younger, Wit: Abraham, Ann & John
Geary
Markfield 30-May 1830 B
John Geary Shackerstone Bach
Sarah Cooper OTP
Thornton
William Geary M MARR 11 MAR 1833 Ann Cave Wit: Mary Hopkinson
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On the marriage 117,
Charles Cooper of this parish and Elizabeth Geary of this parish both in Stanton,
banns by consent of parents
Charles and Elizabeth sign the register as does William Geary and Ann Hopkinson John Geary Clerk
1833 William Geary is of Stanton under Bardon
1833 John Geary the younger of ???( looks like faint writing ) of Markield by license
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So going back to William Ward Cooper, think this is his widow
1841 Census
COOPER, in Hugglescote
ASHBY DE LA ZOUCH, Leicestershire
HO107 piece 601 folio 11/9 page 11
so I put his name in the paper
The Leicester Chronicle: or, Commercial and Agricultural Advertiser (Leicester, England), Saturday, November 02, 1839
DISTRESSING SUICIDE
On Friday last the friends and relatives of Mr. William Ward Cooper, of Hugglescote, were plunged in the deepest distress by his unfortunate death by his own hand. He had been out shooting, and was in apparent sound health-but on his return home he retired to put his gun away, and change his shirt, when the report of fire arms alarmed his family, and announced the dreadful calamity. The immediate cause of his death has been attributed to the annoyance of a discreditable charge brought against him; but we understand there is not the slightest foundation for this rumour-and some difficulties in which he was involved in consequence of disputed county rates is alleged as the more probable cause. An inquest was held on the body on Sunday last, before John Gregory, jun. Gent. the coroner for the district, and a verdict of ''Temporary insanity'' was returned. The deceased has left a wife and two small children
Household 1841
COOPER, Sarah 30 1811
HEXTALL, Jane 60 1781
TYZACK, Mary A 25 1816
COOPER, Mary A 6 1835
COOPER, Jane 3 1838
HEXTALL, Rachel 7 1834
All born within the county except Mary and Rachel
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Think I am right
Sarah Cooper married William Beard
Ashby de la Zouch
1841 Jul-Aug-Sep 15/7
1851 HO107; Piece: 2084; Folio: 695; Page: 18
William Beard 39
Sarah Beard 43
Mary Ann Cooper 16 born Kirby Bellars,
Emma Beard 9
Sarah Beard 6
William Beard 2
William Court 20
William Booth 17
COOPER, Jane
BAGGOTT, Henry
Ashby de la Zouch
1860 Apr-May-Jun 7A/190
1861 Jane
RG 9; Piece: 2269; Folio: 113; Page: 27
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Hi willsy
thanks a lot for all the information you have sent me on my mums family tree ,what a waste of a life he could have made some thing of him self ,this john geary at shackerstone ,his he the same one on the marriage of elizabeth and charles if so that would this would all come right .i have the family of Ann hopkinson ,i have the photo of stoke heys farm ,as its still there at the back of the golf couse where i take my dogs it just called old heys now,.i did find this on william geary old heys wills leicestershire pecular courts 1795
wills proved and Adminstrations granted in the commissary court of the manor of evington 1581-18ooon one side of the court it states bundle but never proved ,i did contact leicestershire uni as they did a dig at stoke heys and thet sent me back what they found it is a moated site of old heys a sam which had associated manorial earthwork west and north of the moated enclosure .It was possible that buried Archaeological remains relating to the site had survived within the propsed development area area and hence may be impacted upon by any groundworks.
aAlso contacted mary Bonney at the record office anshe sent me some back stating that william geary of old heys,william geary the older of old heys in ratby parish grazier .it mentions his wife mary and brother thomas of Attleborough, warkwickshire baker these are the only relatives mentioned in the will ,he was a rich man
william geary of old heys ratby 1786 was a surveyor of lands in cropston.
william geary of old heys ratby grazier mentioned in the lease dated march 1794
Danoe
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The trouble is, John Geary signs most of the marriages and John the younger marries so you might have to do a bit of unravelling that way.
Enderby 23-Nov 1772 L
Thomas Geary Attleborough WAR Bach 25
Mary Norman OTP Spin 22
Enderby |records are online at
http://www.enderbyheritage.org.uk/ChurchRecords.htm
THOMAS GEARY Residence ATTLEBOROUGH, NUNEATON 23RD Nov 1772 Lic.
THOMAS HADWENS?, CURATE
MARY NORMAN Residence ENDERBY Wit. SILVANUS EARP THOMAS NORMAN
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if you google
THOMAS GEARY ATTLEBOROUGH
there is a bit about him online
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Hi willsy
some one told me that elizabeth geary whom married charles cooper in 28th day of 1830 thornton her parents was john geary and alice ,but wasn't sure about it .elizabeth was born 1810 Stanton under bardon
leicestershire i found the marriage in coalville libary under thornton they dont seem to cover stanton in the reords there im not a member of Anc now
Danone
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Here you go,
John Geary M MARR 15 MAY 1799 Alice Frost
B: Markfield,
Wit: William Mee & Elizabeth Jarass
IGI
https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Ageary~ %2Bresidence_place%3Aleicestershire~ %2Bfather_givenname%3Ajohn~ %2Bfather_surname%3Ageary~ %2Bmother_givenname%3Aalice
Do you have access to Markfield registers? Was hoping you could look this one up for me, sorry to be so cheeky on the thread :)
Markfield
William Moore Catherine Worth Markfield 14 Mar 1871
Wit: William Mee & Elizabeth Jarass
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:) :) :)Hi willsy
the mee family are on my mums side of the family as well ,i have tom mees phone number he lives next door to little markfield farm ,just down the drive i can ask him if william is related for you toms family was related to daisy and terry burdette from the george pub daisy was on mums side also hull fammily from here they had the coach and horses on the A50 field head island ,steve hull still owns the shop in ratby lane they are all related to our side and the brooks family from stoney lane farm markfield Abraham cooper married mary ann brooks in 1872 abraham cooper born 1840 markfield son of charles cooper and elizabeth i will have a look also in my stuff of the mees if i have it for you but if not will find out for you leave with me .
Danone
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I am tracking Moore marriages and have links with Nailstone and surrounding area, thank you so much, this one maybe a long shot :)
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:) :) :)Hi willsy
been on family search like you gave me been looking at charles and elizabeth and their chidren at their christings found only so many ,william couldn,y be found found yet on the family cooper dec list has him born 1846 markfield but no christ
joseph coper 1837 no christing
caleb cooper no christing
james cooper ,b, june 1848 markfield
also charles jun sept 1850 no christ
alice geary cooper was
john cooper was son of Charles and Elizabeth
so would this mean that they would only been able to aford to do a few
their father was done by his dad has 1800 23rd of march in Barlestone leicester which is near woodlands garden center just out side of Market bosworth ,so what i think is he thought he was born in Markfield, but born there and then came here straight after he was born ,and thats when he met elizabeth
I found charles dad with a Arthur cooper
male
04 Apr 1811 Ashby de la zouch leice
dont know much about lousia cooper either christ 24th jun 1814 ashby de la zouch
father thomas cooper mother mary dont know any thing on him at all
Danone
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Can't help with baptisms, have you got this
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar about Caleb Cooper
Name: Caleb Cooper
Probate Date: 1 Jun 1928
Death Date: 7 Feb 1928
Death Place: Leicestershire, England
Registry: Leicestershire, England
...of Newry House Croft Leicestershire died 7th February 1928 Probate Leicester 1 June to William Cooper grazier and John Hunt co-operative employee. Effects £2402 12s
Found a baptism, mother Abigail Green
Cooper, William (of Alma St, Brightside, born 1865-10-18).
Baptised June 24, 1866, by Thos Hulme at St Thomas Church, Brightside.
Parents name(s) are Abigail & Caleb (Pointman).
Thought this might be worth a look
Thornton
Thomas Simpson M MARR 10 FEB 1831 Louisa Cooper License Wit: William Cooper Ann Simpson ?John Cooper John Geary Clerk
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Found this 1841
1841 Census
SIMPSON, Louisa
MARKET BOSWORTH, Leicestershire
HO107 piece 603 folio 12/12 page 18
she is with Thomas Cooper grazier in Thornton
COOPER, Thomas M 59 1782 Leicestershire
COOPER, Hannah F 20 1821 Leicestershire
SIMPSON, Louisa F 27 1814 Leicestershire
SIMPSON, Louisa F 7 1834 Leicestershire
SIMPSON, Harriet F 2 1839 Leicestershire
MARSTON, John M 60 1781
STOVER, Sarah F 18 1823
Am wondering if this is Thomas in Markfield with sister Ann who is with him also 1851
1841 Census
SIMPSON, Sarah
BLABY UNION, Leicestershire
HO107 piece 600 folio 19/9 page 10
as I searched for Sarah and Louisa and came up with these possibilities as he is a Thomas Simpson widowed with the 2 girls 1851 HO107 piece 2081 folio 414 page 8
1851 Census
SIMPSON, Harriot
LEICESTER, Leicestershire
HO107 piece 2088 folio 316 page 26
with Joseph and Mary A Allsop
Entry No.274, DEC 28, 1846, after Banns
JOSEPH ALLSOP, full age, bach. FRAME SMITH, of CHURCH St, s. of JOHN ALLSOP, FARMER
MARY ANNE SIMPSON, full age, wid. of ALBION St, d. of EDWARD SMITH, FARMER
Wits: CHARLES GRANT, ANN GRANT
occ matches for Joseph, looked for Harriet as there is a difference in age, hope it's on the right lines
Thornton
John Jones M MARR 11 SEP 1841 William Hannah Cooper Thomas Cooper
G: 29 silk manu, B: 21 gentleman's daughter Wit: Thomas Cooper & Sarah Goodrich Richard?
looks like John's residence is Islington so
1851 Census
JONES, Hannah
UXBRIDGE, Middlesex
HO107 piece 1697 folio 57 page 17
married to 'Jesse' so easily found Hannah from Thornton
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IGI
parents: Thos. Cooper, Mary
name: Arthur Cooper
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 04 Apr 1811
baptism/christening place: Ashby-de-la-Zouch, Leicester, England
father's name: Thos. Cooper
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: I04593-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1482365
parents: Thos. Cooper, Mary
christening: 08 Apr 1811 Thornton, Leicester, Leicester, England
residence: Leicester, Leicester, England
1841 Mercer's Row with an Alfred Cooper 1824 bank clerk
1841 Census
COOPER, Arthur
NORTHAMPTON, Northamptonshire
HO107 piece 814 folio 1/13 page 19
parents: Thos. Cooper, Mary
name: Alfred Cooper
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 27 Jun 1827
baptism/christening place: Thornton, Leicester, Leicester, England
father's name: Thos. Cooper
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: I06824-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1482399
1851 Census
COOPER, Arthur
NORTHAMPTON, Northamptonshire
HO107 piece 1740 folio 212 page 31
Arthur from Thornton
Arthur COOPER otp, (Mercers Row), bachelor, of full age, draper, father Thomas farmer
Mary Ann Mayor otp, (Market Square), spinster, of full age, father Edward Lewis Mayor, Innkeeper
1844 2-Jun Northampton All Saints
1851 Census
COOPER, Alfred
CLIFTON, Gloucestershire
HO107 piece 1952 folio 387 page 43
Alfred with brother James
COOPER, James Newbury
Lutterworth 1848 Oct-Nov-Dec
Martha Goodrick
there's refs to him marrying a Sarah Ward 1840 9th Oct Sileby
When James dies he mentions Rev Charles James Cooper, James as Gentleman
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar about James Newberry Cooper
Name: James Newberry Cooper
Probate Date: 7 Jan 1893
Death Date: 3 Dec 1892
Death Place: Staffordshire, England
Registry: Lichfield
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First marriage
COOPER, James Newborry
Sarah Ward Barrow Upon Soar Oct 1840
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:) :) :)Hi willsy
now tyring to find john elliotts parents he married Alice geary cooper dec 1858 in mrk bos rd he was born 1826 whitwick leice and died march 1907 in mrk bos rd
more on alice she was a seamer
more on john
occupation 1861 ag lab :1871 stone quayymen 1881 he cant be found 1891 Ag lab 1901 farmer
res 1861 west lane cottage stanton 1871 still in stanton :1891in the lane ,stanton 1901 stone quarry lodge ,stanton
childen od alice cooper and john are
thomas elliott,b, 1853 markfield
samuel elliott ,b, 1856 Stanton
john william elliott ,b, 1862 Stanton
Danone
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Death for you
ELLIOTT Alice Market Bosworth Leicestershire 1916 Oct-Nov-Dec age 83
There's also a son Joseph 1871 census age 7, thinking Thomas and Samuel are from John's previous marriage but I can't get on family search at the mo
1881 births out, ages are wrong but occupation is stone quarryman and grazier of 2 acres right address
Main Rd, Stanton Under Bardon no children
1881 Census
ELIOTT, Alice
MARKET BOSWORTH, Leicestershire
RG11 piece 3136 folio 92 page 20
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Guessing this might be John married to Elizabeth born Whitwick ag lab
1851 Census
ELLIOTT, John
MARKET BOSWORTH, Leicestershire
HO107 piece 2083 folio 406 page 10
Thinks this would then probably be him in Thringstone parents Thomas and Sophia so matching father's name given on marriage
1841 Census
ELLIOTT, John
ASHBY DE LA ZOUCH, Leicestershire
HO107 piece 596 folio 20/26 page 11
Found this one Whitwick St John
John Elliott M MARR 5 DEC 1847 father Thomas Elizabeth Rollerton Benjamin Rollerton
g age 22 labourer and b age 21, both of Whitwick
as WOOLLERTON in bmd's so needs the original to be looked at, family search is down for site maintenance
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This is the only marriage I could find in Leicestershire
Breedon on the Hill 22-May 1820 B
Thomas Elliott Newbold [Liberty]
Sophia Elliott Newbold [Liberty]
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:) :) :)Hi willsy
the marraige of john wallis and elizabeth cooper
12thof april 1848
elizabeth was the dau of joseph cooper and ann bown and jane cooper ,
his there any thing else on the wallis connection the traveller would have been in the fair ground bizz .
Danone
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Sorry have nothing extra for Wallis
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:) :) :)Hi willsy
thanks for every thing you have done for me in finding out about my mums family for her i was hoping to find out about the wallis side but it will have to be a mystery for bit longer ,i did have the Woolerton book out from coalville libary some time ago and did see the Woollertons ,i was counting on that and it worked out fine thanks, its a small yellow book ,with the family trees in it and it has my aunt evelyn cooper family side in the oxfords from ellistown and bagworth she was born 1904 markfield, father joseph cooper 1875 father of charles cooper whom married elizabeth geary so that works out has well ,might see if i can get the book from Amazon so every thing turned out fantastic in the end and now i know ere i came from and my family what a journey it does take you on tracing the family tree and were they came from and what they did for work and how they lived their lives
many thanks
Danone
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Hi Willsy - This Cooper family is also my direct ancestors.
Going backwards:
Jane Cooper 1837 - 1922 - My Great Grandmother
William Ward Cooper 1807 - 1839 (Poor fellow!)
Thomas Cooper 1782 - 1863
Thomas Cooper 1736 - 1797
John Cooper 1709 -1784 Buried in the Lady Chapel, St. Peters Church, Thornton
Thomas Cooper abt. 1684
Please can you give me any more details of the marriage in your reply No 14?
It reads:
'John Jones M MARR Hannah Cooper 11 SEP 1841 William Jones Thomas Cooper
G: 29 silk manu, B: 21 gentleman's
daughter Wit: Thomas Cooper & Sarah Goodrich
Thornton 1841 Thomas 59 grazier and Hannah 20
HO107; Piece: 603; Folio: 12; Page: 18'
Could the John Jones above be Jessie Jones by any chance? Q3 1841, Market Bosworth, Vol. 15, Page 203. If not then please add here the full web site address.
Kind regards
banorwood
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It's all from references I have, you would need to order the original or view the parish records
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Thanks anyway.
It has enabled me to trace Jessie/Jesse Jones b.abt. 1813, the silk merchant from Wootton, Northampton and Hannah Cooper from 1841 at Thornton through to her possible death in London in 1882. They had three daughters and one son. One of the daughters had ten children. The connections to silk merchants is significant as it was also important to several others from this Cooper family.
Register of Births and Baptisms. Bardon Park & Ashby de la Zouch Chapels (Presbyterian), 1756 to 1837. Year - 1821.
Hannah, Daughter of Thos. Cooper and Mary (Ward) his wife, of the Parish of Thornton, in the County of Leicester (born on the 15th Day of August 1820) was baptised on the 3rd Day of February 1821, by me, Thos. Owen. Protestant Dissenting Minister.
Hannah was also a witness at her elder sister Marianne Cooper's marriage to Richard Nuttall on 14 Jan 1840 at Thornton, Leicestershire.
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Hi willsey
this is my family as well from my mums side of the family the cooper family markfield .found out that elizabeth gearys mother was alice frost Newtown linford i have the website which is frost and gilchrist and related famlies william frost was a steward at bradgate park house and his father Richard frost he was a chef .william over looked ever thing and made sure the food and drinkwas put out on te tables right .elizabeth geary was christend at bardon park i have as well .elizabeth married charles cooper in 1830 thornton i have their marriage they lived at stoke heys farm markfield in 1851 then moved up to elliottslane markfield hannah cooper was charels sister she married charles clapham who their next neighbour i have all the declist and have a lot of census form s with his mum and dad on .i also have a print out from bardon hill thomas and mary were up there as well .
Danone
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:) :) :)Hi willsey
every thing you have sent me has come right
many thanks for all that you have sent i have been going thorw my camara pictures of head stones in markfield ceme
and all those are right has well .
thanks
Danone
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Dear Willsy
Your look up info on Hannah Cooper (1820 - 1883) has been inspiring and ironically timely! Especially as this week we are all aware of Soldiers at War over the years - Past and Present.
Since last night I have found that:
Hannah Cooper married Jesse Jones and they had a daughter,
Caroline Ada Jones (1844 -1902) who married
George William Tripp (1829 - 1904) and they had a son,
William Henry Lainson Tripp (1881 - 1959). Or to give him his full title.
Lieutenant General William Henry Lainson TRIPP, C.B., D.S.O., M.C., and A.D.C. to His Majesty the King.
An unmarried? Professional Soldier. He was my second cousin twice removed and his military record at the National Archives I have just downloaded.
Yesterday I did not know he existed. Today I know he may have ended so many fighting soldiers lives?
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Just happy to help after having been very much a novice and being helped in the beginning by Mike
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:) :) :)Hi willsey
when you hearfrom mike fro leicester please say thanks to him for me i wouldnt have goten all this if it wasnt for you lot on here .also ask mike if he can see if he can find a connection to my coopers from the heather coopers .please im on leicestershire villages as well with some others who say there is one but we cant seem to find it.
many
thanks
ste
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Will do :)
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:) :) :)in the names at the bottom of the page were it says kendrick leicstershire that is another name Abaraham cooper born 1841 markfield when he married mary ann brooks he and his wife took margreat brooks as ther step dau she married a samuel kendrick markfield.
Danone
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:) :) :)Hi willsey
i have this markfield marr
married in the parish church of markfield after bnass by me samuel adams curate
date 1852 nov 29th
thomas cooper son of thomas and mary cooper
married in the parish church of markfield eng father thomas dec
wife ann arnold spinster both full age her father samuel arnold labmarried in the presents of
charles clapham he made his mark .
markfield marriage
1856 jan 17th
thomas cooper full age widoer lad markfeild father thomas cooper lab
sarah brooks full age spinster markfield father james brooks farmer.married in the parish church of markfield but have put married in the est church were it should say after banns or lic but missed out, person who did it was Geof. R. oakley no curate or vicar
thomas made his mark and sarah made her mark married in the presents of
joseph brooks
mary ann brooks they both made their marks so this means they were illltrate also thomas lost his first wife and remarried
Hannah clapham she made her mark
hannah is the sister of charles cooper
Danone
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:) :) :)Hi willsey here is Hannah cooper markfield marriage 1839 sept 8th charles clapham full age bach cordwianer male father Willaim Clapham markfeild
hannah cooper age full spinster father thomas cooper lab they coldnt sign ther names so made thier marks.
married in the parish church of markfield
married in the presents of joseph hoult
john morris
Danone
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Hi Willsy
Referring back to reply 41 and 44. Hannah Cooper who married Jesse Jones. Q3 1841 (I have sent for the marriage cert to prove their names and the parents). I notice that they also had a son Ernest Seymour Jones Q1 1861 (see Cambridge Alumni) who married Sarah Jane Clifford Senior Q1 1889. They had a son Arthur Seymour Jones Q1 1891. Sarah and Arthur were with the aforesaid Marianne Nuttall nee Cooper (Hannah's sister) at Horninglow, Burton, on the 1901 census as visitors. Before today I did not know if and how they were related. Sadly young Arthur died shortly after at Scarborough.
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:) :) :)Hi willsey
if any one is watching this that is close to were i live i would love to meet any relative that has the same connection that would be able to help me look through the work i have and would proberly be of help to them .from mary and thomas cooper they came from barlestone leicestershirefather and mother of charles cooper 1800
Danone
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:) :) :)Hi willsey
just been looking at my charles cooper with his wife elizabeth cooper <geary>
born stanton under bardon as you know 1810 father john cooper and mother alice frost
elizabeth married charles in 1830 thornton leicestershire 28th day of Nov, No 117
any way been looking at the double 1841 markfield census with his mum and dad on it thomas and mary cooper one side with joseph cooper and sarah cooper the other side charles cooper wife elizaberth their dau alice born 1833 markfield
son john c cooper
now i only knew thier
son doing this as charles cooper and that he died young was his proper name john charles and also they have joseph cooper with them age 3 was born 1836
and Abraham cooper born 1840 markfield
also they had caleb cooper born 1842 markfield
charels parents thomas and mary i have looked at her date of birth also and says she born in markfield 1778 now was she the cousion of her husband this as mystfied also because i didnt think two people with the same name were allowed to marry if related to each other .thomas was born 1781 Barleston leicestershire.
thanks
Danone
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See Repy #51.
Marriage Index: Jessie Jones & Hannah Cooper, Q3 1841, Mk. Bosworth, Vol. 15, Page 203.
Marriage Certificate reads:
1841.
Marriage solemnized by Licence in the Parish of Thornton, in the County of Leicester.
Entry No. 43, September 11.
Jesse Jones, aged 29, Bachelor, Silk (Mercer), residing Islington, father William Jones, (Occupation? This would be a guess) and Hannah Cooper, aged 21, Spinster, Gentleman's Daughter, living at Thornton, father Thomas Cooper, Gentleman.
Married in the (St. Peter's) Parish Church, according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church of England, by me, Samuel Adams, Curate. Both signed in the presence of Thomas Cooper (Father?), Sarah Goodrich (Possibly - her brother, William Newberry Cooper's, future second wife Martha's, sister), and Rich(a)d. Nuttall, (Draper- her sister Marianne Cooper's husband).
Comments:
The sloping writing is not easy to read hence the Index has: Jessie instead of Jesse.
His father, William Jones's occupation could be anything.
It can be assumed that because the family were from Wootton, Northamptonshire, that his trade may have been in connection with either silk or shoes.
It can also be assumed that Hannah forsook her nonconformist views of her parents at the time of her Christening/Baptism and had adopted the Established Church at that particular time in her life.
St. Peter's Church at Thornton is in the most beautiful of settings above the Thornton reservoir. It is also where her great grandparents, John and Sarah Cooper's slate Memorial/tombstone is set in the floor near the altar in the Lady Chapel.
See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F7VyTOpRVk
Also See: http://www.markfieldcofe.co.uk/thornton.html
It could also be assumed that Jesse and Richard Nuttall were friends and possibly that he was the best man, that they were certainly in the silk and cloth drapery business's, as other data and later family events have proved.
There could also be some significance of the fact that Sarah Goodrich signed as second witness, which will be researched further.
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:) :) :)Hi willsey just seen your reply about the cooper side of mum family the from charles and elizabeth cooper side her mothers family the frost family richard frost father of alice frost 01 apr 1755 she lived here in Newtown linford she married john geary ,father of elizabeth geary born 1810 stanton under bardon .alice married john in 29th apr 1799 thornton leice Alice frost christ 18th of oct 1784.elizabeth geary christ 28th of apr 1810 bardon park and ashby de la zouch francis frost born 06 Nov 1705 newtwon linford died 08 apr 1706 father thomas frost and mother mary frost .
the thomas cooper and sarah cooper ,she was brooks stoney lane markfield which was a farm which is still here just on the end of broad lane markfield i have the brooks side of the family as well thomas son of thomas and mary cooper ,i have the dec list of the cooper family markfield thomas cooper about 1754 of market bos leicester .thomas aglab mary cooper wife age 61 son joseph cooper age 6on the 1841 census sarah cooper dau age 3 then acrossthe other side is charles age 40 farmer
elizabeth wife 31
dau alice age 8
john charles cooper age 5
joseph cooper age 3
Abraham cooper 11 months old
Alice geary cooper married john elliott from whitwick born 1827 so young thomas cooper who married sarah brooks was the brother of our charles .oour charles wasnt actully born 1801 but 1800 barlestone
batch Number C04457-1 ,23rd of march .our chrales dies 5th april 1889 aged 88
elizabeth dies 6th of dec aged 79 1889 on the 1861 charles is aged 60
all living at 60 stoke heys markfield
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charles and elizabeth had a son called charles he was on the 1851 census a long with caleb and james , william, Abraham . joseph , alice ,
caleb cooper shepard worked for joseph johnson farmer of 205 acres ulverscroft lodge ulverscroft 1871 pointsman 1881 farmer 18 acres 1891 farmer coal dealer 1901 farmer <dairyres in 1871 n moor end spondon derby 1881 spondon derby 1891 fish ponds spondon
1901 pratts farm croft
caleb married abigail green
they had William cooper ,b, dce 1865 bright side sheffield
Harriet cooper ,b, march 1869 spondon
emma elizabeth cooper ,b, june 1870 spondon.
jane cooper dau of joseph son of charles and elizabeth was born 1862 stanton under bardon she married Adam lee june 1883 in mrk bos RD he was 1860 Rhosllanergreggog Denbighshire .i have so much more from mum family
ste
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Hi guys was there any connection from my Elizabeth Geary born 1810 Stanton under bardon father John Geary married Alice frost 1799 .
I have been on a website from Dadlington today were they have the 1841 census and on wards and history of the village the Geary family lived there so I would like to know if she was connected to the village .
Thanks
Steve