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I am hoping someone might know more of William McIntosh (also Mackintosh) who seems to have inherited Millbank in Nairn in 1822 after his brother Beachamp died in India. (An older brother seems to have died also, and there was at least one sister.) William married Jane Gallaway in Edinburgh 7.4.1810. At some point after 1822, they emigrated to Australia possibly with children.
Thanks very much for your time.
Francesr
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Hi Francesr
Just on dates, the entry for marriage in Edinburgh likely to have the banns to the marriage. A further later date shows here on the 12 April in Glasgow https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTBH-16Y (this might be a further reading of the banns - the original image of the entry on the Old Parish Register would help with this).
Have you seen the Will & Testament entries here www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Two entries show. The first:
William McIntosh, 2 Nov. 1816. Lieutenant Colonel, of Millbank who died at Nairn. Testament Testamentar & Inventory - deed of Settlement recorded in Commissay Court Books 3 March 1815.
Not sure what is different between that document and this referenced here www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?queryType=1&resultcount=1&Edoc_Id=231738
Also, Colonel William MacKintosh's death entry here, aged 74, 22 July 1814 www.electricscotland.com/history/highlands/no8.htm
As you mentioned, reference here on 18 July 1822 in the Inverness Courier, to second born son of William Snr., Beauchamp www.electricscotland.com/history/highlands/no17.htm
I think a further couple of entries for Beauchamp at TNA here:
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-msseur_2&cid=409#409
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?queryType=1&resultcount=1&Edoc_Id=275300
Added: Possible birth for Beauchamp MacKintosh? https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X16G-BJV Maybe another sister here https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X1DX-ZHW
Monica
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Given the nature of the family's life, have you tried searching through google books? A few references there, such as - Sequestration of assest from William Jnr. in 1837 - www.rootschat.com/links/0r7h/ Quite a detailed legal report on assets given.
Mention here of a sister Elizabeth www.ambaile.org.uk/en/item/item_photograph.jsp?item_id=142656
From this link http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SCT-NAIRNSHIRE/2008-03/1205797327 - Jane at least was certainly in Australia with her death entry showing there in 1848:
11 Nov 1848 At Port Philip (Melbourne) Australia, Jane GALLOWAY wife of William McINTOSH late of Mill Bank, Nairn
As for William, husband, his death notice here (death date 27 MAR 1853), at the home of his sister, a Mrs MacDonald, at Knockando, Melbourne www.rootschat.com/links/0r7w/
Do you have any formal reference to the name of mother and wife of the family? This would help to hopefully find other children to the family hopefully.
Monica
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William McIntosh of Millbank
This is not my family but I do know this is the Balnespic line. This William McIntosh had brother in law Dr. Peter Macarthur (married to Anne Galloway) who also emigrated to Australia. I think you must have traced William's line back? I know little about them or descendants. Jane
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Dear Monica and Jane,
Thank you so much for all this wonderful info.
Monica - the links were excellent and provided plenty of new background. It seems William went bankrupt in 1837 which narrows down the time he and Jane and children(?) came to Australia; probably to join the MacDonalds and Macarthurs (or in some other order ...)
Jane - I am thrilled to have another Gallaway marriage and another lot of emigrants!
I am trying to track the Gallaway marriages to see if I can find out more about their artist father, Alexander. Especially after 1816 which is the latest date I have for a miniature painted by him (in Nairn!)
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
Francesr
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Dear Monica, Jane and Francesr- I am descended from Colonel Mackintosh through his youngest daughter Margaret Mary Macdonald -infact I have extensive history of the whole family and miniature portraits of the Colonel and his wife Elizabeth Claudia Guyon- possibly painted by Alexander Gallaway. I do not know how the Colonel made his pile- he retired from the army when he married thereabouts. Eldest son William was born in London then they lived in Forres and later Newton, Aberdeen later retiring at Nairn. Uncle William after marriage lived at Poonamallee, Madras. He inherited Millbank and other property and established a distillery at Nairn - bankrupt 1837- emigrated to Australia 1838 and later lived with his sister Margaret-she emigrated 1842- her sons Dr Allan Ranald, William Kenneth and Angus had Glenaulin Station, Victoria and later Orari Station, New Zealand. The Macdonalds are the only descendants surviving of the Colonel altho he appears to have had an earlier illegitimate daughter whose daughter Mrs Gow had family in Edinburgh. Margaret Mary died at Geraldine NZ 1876 -her other sister Eliza married James Augustus Grant of Viewfield, Nairn who became the Mackintosh trustee. Each of the children received about 5000 pounds. Brother Lachlan died young while Beauchamp and Guyon were officers in the East India Service. Beauchamp a Major Madras Artillery died 1822 and Guyon a Captain in the Indian Naval Service died at Padang, Sumatra in 1831- they both had children by Indian wives but these marriages were not recognized under English law. Colonel Mackintosh was a younger son of William Mackintosh "of Balnespick"- I have in front of me the 1779 commission of Colonel Mackintosh signed by George 111- when the regiment was disbanded he kept the regimental colours of 97 regiment of foot -one of which is now in the museum of the Royal West Kent Regiment at Maidstone- I will be happy to answer any further question- best regards from Guyon
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Dear Guyon,
To say I am thrilled to have your reply would be putting it mildly! No wonder I couldn't find some of the obvious information - people had 'just' gone to India or NZ! So you have filled in quite a lot of the gaps for me already - thank you so much.
I have recently found some more on William and Jane nee Gallaway Mackintosh (and their descendants - I haven't followed this far enough ahead to ascertain if there are any still living) and am waiting on some new info on Peter Macarthur and his family which is in the Soc. of Genealogists in Sydney.
I would be most interested in any more info you might have, particularly concerning the Gallaway side of the family. I have found a great deal already. I also have a lot of Alexander Gallaway images which may help to decide if your miniatures are by him. I have been wondering if there were family descendants who had had AG miniatures passed down to them, and here you (hopefully) are!
I would suggest, if you are happy about this, that we continue on on the private page - personal email is also better for forwarding docs/files I have found. Up to you of course, but I'd be most grateful.
Thanks again for your generous response.
Kind regards,
Francesr
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Happy New Year to both of you :)
Welcome to Rootschat, Guyon!
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Guyon, just a couple more posts here and you will be able to send and receive PMs. A great way (only way!) to exchange personal email address and personal info. To send someone a PM, just click on the small 'letter' button on their username on the l/h side. You can access your PM account, just look to the brown button links across the top of the page, under 'My Messages'.
Monica :)
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Dear Guyon, Monica, Frances, I am very interested in your messages and would be delighted to be kept in the thread. I am particularly intrested in Peter McArthur from Cawdor (related my my own Macarthurs) and brother-in-law of one of my ancestors. If there is any 18th century Macarthur genealogy that you are able to obtain from Australia, I would be delighted to know!
You wrote
Glasgow Courier, of May 1794 ...an advertisement announcing that he (Galloway) and a Mr Williams had moved their drawing academy to Horns Court, Argyll St. He moved in 1801 to Smith's land, Trongate, Glasgow, and from 1811-1812 was residing at 6 James Sq, Edinburgh. His wife, Ann, nee Rowland, had 2 daughters, Catherine (later Mrs Hadway 1803-1867) and Mary (later Mrs Wallan Brown.) Alexander's sister was Jean and a Colonel John Campbell was a cousin of Ann Rowland. (Info from 2 books by Daphne Foskett.)
Of interest is that one of the executors of the will of Mr. Williams was Aeneas McBean, WS Edinburgh, also from Inverness (19th century).
The following on the web: ...had no children and Williams became unwell in the summer of 1828, dying on the 14th June the following year after a very painful illness. He was buried in the Miller family plot in the Canongate churchyard, Edinburgh on the 22nd June.
Robina and the artist's other Trustees, Aeneas MacBean, WS. and the miniature painter, W. J. Thomson [1771-1845], arranged a studio sale in 1831 but the sale catalogue makes it clear that this did not include any of his Greek material and no significant oil paintings. Some of his Greek watercolours and smaller Greek subjects in Sepia -the latter made for publication in the Select Views in Greece - were sold on the death of Aeneas MacBean in 1858. Robina presented a collection of works, which included large exhibition watercolours of Greece, a bronze model of the Parthenon and one oil canvas, to the newly opened National Gallery of Scotland, in 1859. Most of this group hung almost continuously in one of the small octagonal rooms in the Gallery until the late 1950's. It has been established here that this was the earliest permanent, public exhibition of watercolours, in Britain ..
Again thanks, Jane
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Hi Jane
Understandably, I am not clear on the various parties' interests that you mention but just wanted to add some details that may or may not be relevant to your research - sounds like you are well underway on this!
Aeneas MacBean, WS - other than being one of the trustees to the will of Mr William, has he any specific relevance to your research?
For example, his death cert will be available to view on the pay to view site www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk I think his death year is likely to be 1857 in Edinburgh, rather than 1858. What does show as 1858 are his various Will & Testament entries, which again, depending on how he fits in with all of this, may or may not be relevant. From example, from SP, you can view and download the following documents for a small cost:
14/01/1858 - Inventory. 13 pages.
14/01/1858 - Not stated what type of document. 35 pages.
There is also this reference (you can order the photo for free online on the site) www.gravestonephotos.com/public/gravedetails.php?available=yes&fullname=Janet%20MacBean&grave=60660
I was curious (...but then I am always curious!)as to why it wasn't until Aeneas MacBean's death that there then seem to be release of a substial important part of the Williams' collection.
Monica
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Dear Monica, Jane and Francesr- delighted to hear from you all- I would be happy to receive E Mails. William and Jane Mackintosh did not have children however Peter and Ann Macarthur did. I only know that many of them live in Melbourne- I wonder if the Macarthurs and Macdonalds were related otherwise because many of them had the same family names -they were great friends and mentioned in many old letters I have. I also wonder if they were related to the Camden Macarthurs who my great grandfather W K Macdonald had letters of introduction to when he arrived at Sydney in 1839- regards John Macdonald
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Dear Monica, Jane, Frances- delighted to hear from you all- William and Jane Mackintosh did not leave children but Peter and Ann Macarthur did- Peter Macarthur died in 1861. He was formerly Surgeon of the 6th Royal Veteran Battalion. The Macarthurs stayed with the Macdonalds at Berrima NSW on their first overland trip to Melbourne and likewise when the three Macdonalds with their mother arrived overland at Melbourne they stayed with the Macarthurs in their hut at Yarra Bend, Merri Creek- they were all great friends and perhaps related in other ways judging by the family names- regards John Macdonald
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Dear Monica, Jane and Francesr- getting used to your system so excuse errors-sent two brief messages which I trust you have- if William and Jane had any children they must have died young. Fortunately I have many family letters of the time- Macarthurs mentioned a lot. I also have letters written by Uncle William but can add nothing more about the Gallaways. I have wondered if the miniatures were by Alexander Gallaway because they are beautifully executed and would have been painted about 1810. They are not signed but that may be because they were a gift from the artist? When Uncle William died a large collection of Mackintosh and Guyon portraits, miniatures and significant chattels came to the Macdonalds but the only miniatures I think by Gallaway were the ones of the Colonel and his wife in old age. They are beautiful.
There is another connection to Peter and Ann Macarthur. Their daughter (Ann I think) married the Hon John Fowler Turnbull MLC of Loy Yang, Gippsland and one of their sons also a John Fowler Turnbull married Elizabeth eldest daughter of Dr Allan Macdonald. There was one child Allan Macdonald Turnbull who died without issue in Melbourne in 1955- however his father had brothers whose descendants I think can be traced in Victoria- best regards from Guyon
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John, you are up and running now with your PM service ;)
Monica
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Dear Monica, re Aeneas McBean, WS, he has been researched by Kim Hansen, and I wondered how he related family-wise to members of this artistic coterie in Edinburgh (if at all). My interest is in Nairnshire/Inverness society in 18th century and early 19th. Dig deep or wide enough, and the roots intermingle, which is fascinating. I am particularly interested in Peter McArthur's genealogy as well as that of his Falconer mother. Jane
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Dear John, Camden Macarthurs
My late father Colin Macgillivray (1910-1987) maintained that the Cawdor Macarthurs (of whom he was descended) were related to the Camden Macarthurs in Australia. This seemed unlikely and I thought the story was intermingled with the Peter McArthur family who went to Australia. But recently studies of Macarthurs show that at least one 18th century Macarthur in Cawdor, William who married Elizabeth/Betty Smith with issue Jean born 1776 and John (1779-1842) was the granduncle of John Macarthur of Merino sheep fame, and apparently was born in Loch Fyne. Another Macarthur member of this family (ie step-niece) of Dr. Peter Macarthur, Elspet (1820 - 1893) married Alpin Grant Cameron in Queensland, Australia. Is there any mention of her in the letters Guyon? Best wishes, Jane
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Dear John, John Macdonald
I would be very interested to know where your Macdonalds originally came from. Was it from a parish in Nairnshire? Many thanks, Jane
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Dear Jane- our Macdonalds were the Gallavie family, Badenoch. I have Macarthur friends descended from Hannibal. I would be interested in anything you have regarding anyone before Alexander of Plymouth Dock. There was a John Macarthur living in the Macdonalds crofting village at Laggan after Culloden- he was a literate man and I have wondered if he was one of your family- obviously my family had connections with the Camden family before they emigrated to Australia. Sasine records might be revealing? regards Guyon
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Dear Jane- no mention of Camerons I don't think. Did you find out which side the Macarthurs were on at Culloden? Hannibal's son Major General John also married a Macarthur from Loch Fyn- apparently they were second cousins but there is so much myth and legend- John Macdonald (Guyon)
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Dear Jane- a slight error in my last- Major General John McArthur was a brother of Hannibal -
regards John Macdonald
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Hello John, Many thanks... have little unfortunately of interest in reply to your questions. I think that William McArthur (m to Elizabeth Smith) who became tenant of Earl of Cawdor must have had him as protector post Culloden, so Jacobite. "The Seven Sons of John McArthur" (on web) describes Wm's son John as being a friend of Lord Nelson. Interestingly, it was presumably his cousin Neil Smith described below, so together with him.
Nelson doctor's forgotten grave restored by Chris Holme, in The Herald, Mon Sept 17th 2001
(extracts)
Enthusiasts yesterday celebrated the restoration of the forgotten Highland grave of a doctor who played a key role at the battle of Trafalgar.. Niel Smith was an assistant ship's surgeon who fought to save the life of Admiral Lord Horatio Nelson on HMS Victory after the British commander had been shot by a French sniper. He appears in two celebrated paintings of Nelson's final moments..(..)
…a chance discovery by local historians and the efforts of the 1805 Club… Dr Smith's overgrown grave was discovered after Cawdor Heritage Group carried out a survey of gravestones in Cawdor cemetery in the mid 1990s… Unveiling the plaque, Ewen Brodie of Lethen, the lord-lieutenant of Nairn, said 'We never knew that such an important character in our country's history who has been immortalised on canvas was actually a son of Nairnshire and the Highlands..'
Smith's family originally came from Nairn - the seaside holiday resort that was a favourite of Hollywood legend Charlie Chaplin. His father was Duncan Smith of Howford and his mother was Anne Macpherson (*). He was born at his grandmother's house on April 12, 1780. .. In 1812 he returned to the Highlands, where he married his cousin, Anne Macpherson of Ardersier, daughter of the factor of Cawdor Estate.
They retired to Forres, but Dr. Smith died in 1819 at 39 and was buried at Cawdor cemetery.
(*) This should read Margaret Macpherson. Her sister Anne Macpherson was married to John Macgillivray of Tierfognian and Keppernach)
Interesting about John McArthur in Laggan.
I am particularly interested in Peter McArthur genealogy because he was legal representative for a family of Falconers in Nairnshire in an inheritance case 18th century (his mother was a Falconer). I am trying to work out the different trees that are described. Jane
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Dear Jane- My Macdonald family were intermarried with Macphersons and Grants for hundreds of years. W K Macdonald married Annie Macpherson in Melbourne in 1859. She was I understand descended from the same branch of the clan as the Macphersons of Ardesier- her father Captain Eneas Macpherson was a Macpherson of Clune and Strathnoon in Strathdearn. I had a visit recently from a descendant of the Ardesier family but I understand the connection between the Strathnoon and Ardesier family has never been established altho Captain Eneas and Colonel Ewen Macpherson (my visiter's ancestor) appear to have acknowledged each other as distant cousins (they were neighbours and great friends in New Zealand)- anyway I thought that little thread might be of interest to you. regards from John Macdonald
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Hello Jane-
I rang Bob Barrack who is of the Ardersier family-his E Mail (*) regards John
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Dear All,
Sorry to be late in responding - we have been suffering a heatwave this last wk - apologies to all those in the northern hemisphere!
Well, this is amazing, to have galloped so far ahead so quickly! Thank you so much for all this wonderful new information. I feel we are all continuing on with the connections begun all those years ago. I will try and answer as much as possible.
Firstly, my interest in Gallaway began with our family's 4 miniatures by him. As I only have a possibillity as to who they are - we have no Scottish connections - I thought I'd see if researching the artist might help. The result is I am now planning a book on Gallaway! So anything anyone can add will be gratefully received.
I will of course consult with you as to permission and privacy matters as they arise.
John, you will be pleased to know that the McIntoshes and Macarthurs were indeed related: Jane McIntosh nee Gallaway was the sister of Anne Macarthur nee Gallaway. So there are probably quite a lot of other miniatures by AG about in private hands. That I have 'found' some new ones is a thrill. The date, c. 1810, certainly fits in with AG's period and the sitters being elderly helps as William McIntosh snr died in 1814. 1810 is also the yr that William jnr and Jane married! (I'm pleased to now know, though not for them of course, that they had no children - one less line to track.) Marriage portraits were a tradition of this period, so it is not unlikely they were all painted at the same time. AG did sign in full with an address on the back, so if your miniatures are still intact and sealed (often in red leather cases), the only way to identify the artist is to compare them with others. AG painted many family portraits - it isn't known if they paid him! My feeling is yours are by him. I am hoping you might have images you could email, as that may reveal more?
Monica and Jane: there may be some info re Aeneas McBean on this excellent site for Hugh William Williams: http://sites.google.com/site/hughwilliamwilliams/exhibitions-and-exhibiting-societies
Jane, I will follow up the notes I find in Sydney. Not sure when this will be. I found this in my wanderings on the London-Nairnshire Soc. -see ref. to Falconer:
http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/george-bain/history-of-nairnshire-nia/page-41-history-of-nairnshire-nia.shtml
Here is a great portrait of James August Grant of Viewfield, m. Elizabeth McIntosh
http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/paintings/james-augustus-grant-esq-of-viewfield-17771868-166931
This is also a brilliant site for following up paintings of people and places as all the locations can be cross-referenced. I find if I have a portrait in front of me, so much more is revealed - my art training I suppose.
All for now. Thanks again everyone so much.
Kind regards,
Francesr
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Dear Jane- delighted with the picture of J A Grant. The miniatures of Colonel and Mrs Mackintosh are unsigned. Perhaps they are not by him and I doubt if the other Mackintosh miniatures are of the right period- however the portrait I have of Aunt Eliza (J A's wife) is a fine picture of the right time but unsigned. It was acquired after the death of their grandson Harry Rose of Ruallan in 1930s. I think the best bet for Gallaway pictures would be through the Macarthur descendants in Australia. We don't even have a picture of Uncle William Mackintosh- the heirlooms from him were mostly from the Guyons- regards John
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Thank you John for the McPherson/McDonald/Grant connections. I have corresponded with the descendants of Peter McArthur many years ago, and can give the address if you would like to get back to me by email Frances for Galloway as I think they have info of interest.
I also know the descendants in Australia of the Ardersier McPhersons. Re how the Strathnoon McPhersons and Neil McPherson (father of James factor) could be related - and I think they are indeed because descendants of the latter branch are W at baptism of a child of the former - I am guessing that Paul McPherson of Strathnoon had interalia a son called Donald (ie Neil) as per this reference in book of Inverness freemasons
John Tulloch seemed not to be respecting the boundaries erected by the wrights incorporation. In toucble with the masons. His next crime on 25.3.1756 was having ‘received, entered and admitted four apprentices without the advice and consent of the Master and Wardens. John’s friends were of good standing:James McPherson in Calder, Donald McPherson, brother to Cluney,
McIntosh of Corribrough and his brother-in-law, one McKerquhar ' (my note: McKerchar: McGillivray or McArthur)
Jane
Note Cluney, but as specialists point out so much confusion between Clune and Cluney.
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Frances,
Alexander Gallaway
Have you considered that AG may have been a military painter and away in the campaigns late 18th century (which may explain why his daughters were born with such a gap) or Peninsular wars early 19th. I think miniatures would have been a military technique to capture a fleeting battle. I note that two daughters that we know of married men who had military careers. Just a thought. Jane
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Enthusiasts yesterday celebrated the restoration of the forgotten Highland grave of a doctor who played a key role at the battle of Trafalgar.. Niel Smith was an assistant ship's surgeon who fought to save the life of Admiral Lord Horatio Nelson on HMS Victory after the British commander had been shot by a French sniper. He appears in two celebrated paintings of Nelson's final moments..(..)
…a chance discovery by local historians and the efforts of the 1805 Club… Dr Smith's overgrown grave was discovered after Cawdor Heritage Group carried out a survey of gravestones in Cawdor cemetery in the mid 1990s… Unveiling the plaque, Ewen Brodie of Lethen, the lord-lieutenant of Nairn, said 'We never knew that such an important character in our country's history who has been immortalised on canvas was actually a son of Nairnshire and the Highlands..'
Smith's family originally came from Nairn - the seaside holiday resort that was a favourite of Hollywood legend Charlie Chaplin. His father was Duncan Smith of Howford and his mother was Anne Macpherson (*). He was born at his grandmother's house on April 12, 1780. .. In 1812 he returned to the Highlands, where he married his cousin, Anne Macpherson of Ardersier, daughter of the factor of Cawdor Estate.
They retired to Forres, but Dr. Smith died in 1819 at 39 and was buried at Cawdor cemetery.
(*) This should read Margaret Macpherson. Her sister Anne Macpherson was married to John Macgillivray of Tierfognian and Keppernach)
Interesting about John McArthur in Laggan.
I am particularly interested in Peter McArthur genealogy because he was legal representative for a family of Falconers in Nairnshire in an inheritance case 18th century (his mother was a Falconer). I am trying to work out the different trees that are described. Jane
Hello,
I have been following this thread with great interest because i feel it might help me to make some progress on what has been a sticking point for many years. Your Smith information is really making me hope now! I have a Smith family in Nairn which obviously had definite links with the Grants of Viewfield. William Smith, married to Margaret Forsyth, in Nairn, 1813, was a mason/builder. All of the offspring of this couple had at least one of the Grant family as witnesses at their baptism and their third son, born 1824, was named James Augustus Grant Smith, with J.A. Grant as one of the witnesses.
I have struggled for years to find any further information on William - he died before the 1841 census and therefore there is also no death registration for him. I can find no mention of a burial or any other clue as to his background.
But the connection with the Grants make me believe that his was a family of means and I feel sure there must be some record of his existence somewhere. His wife was born in Duffus, Morayshire but there I also draw a blank, except that he mother was called Jane ( thanks to 1841 census).
There was also a James Smith, architect, named as witness on some family documents - I have wondered if this could be a brother but again, nothing to confirm this.
If anyone can help with this Smith family I should be eternally grateful.
Many thanks,
Jen :)
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We went off into a bit of a tangent there with the genealogy.
Actually I don't know much about the family of James Augustus Grant except what is available Fasti. His wife's connections are the MacDonald and Macarthur lines in Australia. These Macarthurs of Polniach would seem to come from Phroaig, Islay (according to inscription on a sword given by Charles Macgillivray to the military museum at Fort George about 1950). The earliest documented Macarthur in Cawdor that I found was Dr. Peter's grandfather Duncan Macarthur at Urchany who in an old deed witnessed the Earl of Cawdor's signature as "Servitor". There are many documents in the archives of Cawdor Campbell but they are private archives unfortunately.
Then we got on to refer to a different family of Macarthurs in Cawdor who apparently came from Strachur. These Macarthurs therefore were intermarried with Smiths from Howford (near Nairn) and connected with the Macphersons from Ardersier. I'm not sure yet how these Macphersons were connected earlier to Grants or McIntoshes of Balnespic, but John thinks it is probable.
Do send me as much family information (namely witnesses at baptisms of children of Wm Smith and Jane Forsyth) to * and I'll see if I have anything in my database that could help identify this family. Jane
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Do send me as much family information (namely witnesses at baptisms of children of Wm Smith and Jane Forsyth) to * and I'll see if I have anything in my database that could help identify this family. Jane
Email sent, many thanks
Jen :)
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Dear Jane and John,
I have sent you both individual personal messages - do let me know if you received them.
Kind regards,
Francesr
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I am quite new to researching ancestors and have just joined Rootschat today. My husbands family are directly descended from Dr Peter Macarthur and Anne Gallaway. Their son Andrew is our connection. if anyone has any ancestral information they can share I would be very grateful. I believe that Peter was an army surgeon before marrying Anne and emigrating to Australia.
I'm loving where this journey of discovery is taking me. I was never really very interested in history at school- but as i've got older and especially since starting researching family ancestry I am amaze at what i'm learning and changing about what I thought I knew!
Hoping someone has some information for me and I will share what I know too
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Hello
Andrew Macarthur went to the gold diggings with my great grandfather William Kenneth Macdonald 60 miles from <Melbourne in 1852 - unfortunately "they tired of the spade before they got many feet down". The Macdonalds and Macarthurs were great friends. Ann Macarthur's sister Jane (died 1848) married William Mackintosh -maternal uncle of W K Macdonald. I have heaps of family info from old letters of the Macarthur family if you are interested- John Macdonald
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Hello and thank you fro your prompt response to my request. Andrew Macarthur was my husbands 3x great grandfather. I am very excited to learn what you can share with me. You are the first contact on our Macarthur side. It is delightful to hear that your ancestor and Andrew were such good friends. Is there anything you want to know from me. Looking forward to hearing from you soon
Chris
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Dear chrisby,
I will let Guyon answer your queries as he is the fount of all knowledge re your Macarthurs.
My own interest is in Anne Gallaway as I am currently researching her father Alexander and his family. He was a fine miniature artist of whom little is known. I am wondering if you might know anything of him/his family? My family owns 4 miniatures by him, though we are apparently not related at all.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Kind regards,
Francesr
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Dera Francesr,
Great to hear from you. I know very little about Anne's family.
I have her born 2 May 1800 in Glasgow to Alexander Gallaway (born c 1750) and Ann Rowand ( ?).
She married Dr. Peter Macarthur on 21 Feb 1821 in Nairn and they had 4 children that I know of- namely Patrick 1821-1895, Anne 1823-?, Alexander 1824-? and my husbands ancestor Andrew 1826-1888.
Peter was born in1774 and studied medicine at Edinburgh University for 1 year in 1794 but did not qualify as an MD there. He probably completed his training in the Royal Army Medical Corps. I understand he was an army surgeon in the Peninsular wars. So he was quite advanced in years when he married Anne 47 to her 21.
They arrived in Australia 18 Sep 1834 and had a successful life here. Peter laid the foundation stone for the first united Presbyterian Church in Melbourne ,Victoria. I was there last week but although I found the site the church building is no longer there. I'm hoping to find out a bit more about that.
Think that's all for now
I'd be very interested to learn as much as possible about Anne 's family. How lovely to know that her father was a painter- he must have been a skilled artist to produce miniatures. Can they be viewed?
well all for now -i lok forward to hearing from GUNOR?
Warm regards,
Chris
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Just to correct date of birth of Peter, he was born 7 April 1775 in Cawdor Jane
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Hi,
Thank you Janiamac
I shall amend my tree. Is there anything else you can share about this family and their ancestors?
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Dear Chris,
You will be surprised, I think, to find quite a lot of references to Gallaway miniatures if you google : "Alexander Gallaway, miniature artist". A number of them have come up at auction houses in the UK - mostly Christies and Bonham's - he was very good. If you would like to continue contact privately please do so.
Thanks.
Kind regards,
Francesr
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Hello Francesr
Thanks for that- I did a quick search and saw a few pages . The miniatures look to be very fine work. I had no idea that watercolour on ivory could be used in this way.
Love to continue privately- how do we arrange that?
warm regards,
Chrisby
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Hello to you Guyon,
I understand from this thread that you have lots of info on Peter Macarthur and his family. I would really love to hear from you to fill in the background to the family so anything you can share with me would be fantastic. hope to hear from you soon
kind regards,
Chrisby
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Enjoyed reading the above. I'm researching the Mackintoshes of Strone and Balnespick. In particular I'm interested in the generations between Col. William of Millbank, back to the first of Balnespick. :) Another wish is to trace living male McIntoshes from this line.