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Title: Eyemouth Fishing Disaster
Post by: elizabethh on Sunday 23 September 12 12:00 BST (UK)
I am researching a family of fisherman, one of whom I know died in Eyemouth.  Does anyone know where I can obtain a full list of the fishermen who died on that day be it book, newspaper report etc.     Thank-you.
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Post by: osprey on Sunday 23 September 12 12:07 BST (UK)
there's a book - Black Friday by Peter Aitchison published by Birlinn isbn 9781841589824. Think it may have been called Children of the Sea in a previous edition.

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Post by: elizabethh on Sunday 23 September 12 12:16 BST (UK)
Many thanks, Elizabethh
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Post by: ev on Sunday 23 September 12 14:23 BST (UK)
I did some research on this about 5 years ago
Very sad when looking at the 1881 Census and finding all the families that were affected by the disaster that was to happen later that year  :'(

http://www.oocities.org/scotborder/Eyemouth.html

ev
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Post by: elizabethh on Sunday 23 September 12 15:18 BST (UK)
Thankyou very much ev.
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Post by: The Mc on Sunday 23 September 12 22:29 BST (UK)


Another thread from the past on the same subject....

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,385922.0.html
Title: Re: Eyemouth Fishing Disaster
Post by: elizabethh on Sunday 23 September 12 23:18 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone who has given me threads to follow.
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Post by: Beckey on Monday 24 September 12 09:07 BST (UK)
what family are you looking for?
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Post by: elizabethh on Monday 24 September 12 11:30 BST (UK)
family name Fisher - I believe Thomas was on board the Guiding Star reg in Eyemouth.  He would have left a family behind.
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Post by: caraid on Monday 24 September 12 13:24 BST (UK)
Hi Elizabethh

If you have facebook, search for Eyemouth Past page, 100's of old photos and info on Eyemouth

Fiona
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Post by: lizci on Monday 24 September 12 13:36 BST (UK)
I have the edition of the book entitled "Children of the Sea", published by Tuckwell Press.  On page 202, in the the list of those lost on the Guiding Star, is:-

"THOMAS FISHER, aged 30.  Left a widow who gave birth to Thomasina Fisher on 16 December 1881.  Their other dependent children were William, Alice, Janet, Elizabeth and Ann."

There was also a Robert Fisher lost on the Beautiful Star - he was aged 24.  "No noted dependents." (page 200)

Lizci
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Post by: elizabethh on Monday 24 September 12 14:11 BST (UK)
Thank you caraid also lizci - yes that is the family (Thomas):  I did not have 'proof'', it was only mentioned by elderly relatives in the family years ago when talking about this particular family tree. I believe I can also trace Robert. Everyone has been so helpful.
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Post by: Beckey on Monday 24 September 12 14:21 BST (UK)
Hi,

You beat me to it, having lunch.
But according to "Black Friday" it was Edward Fisher not Robert on the Beautiful Star.
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Post by: lizci on Monday 24 September 12 15:12 BST (UK)
You're absolutely right Beckey.  My eyes must have seen Edward, but for some reason my brain said Robert.  Apologies!

Lizci
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Post by: elizabethh on Monday 24 September 12 16:32 BST (UK)
When you say you have found an Edward Fisher can you tell me if he was married or is only the name recorded?
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Post by: lizci on Monday 24 September 12 19:23 BST (UK)
There isn't any more information about Edward - just "EDWARD FISHER, aged 24.  No noted dependants." 

That would seem to suggest he wasn't married ... certainly many of the men listed are shown as having left a widow (sometimes named, sometimes not) and dependant children are named.  A number of the widows appear to have given birth in the few months after the disaster.

Lizci     
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Post by: Beckey on Tuesday 25 September 12 08:56 BST (UK)
hi elizabethh,

Just a note, some of the widows either remarried or took up with another man, they had their children to consider.
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Post by: Bilge on Tuesday 25 September 12 09:21 BST (UK)
Is this article of any help?

http://www.oldleither.com/Hurricane.html
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Post by: bruce1746 on Friday 07 December 12 18:21 GMT (UK)
family name Fisher - I believe Thomas was on board the Guiding Star reg in Eyemouth.  He would have left a family behind.


Hi Elizabethh,
  my Gt-Gt-Gt Grandfather William Maltman was also lost aboard the 'Guiding Star'

GUIDING STAR, Eyemouth
all on board lost:
Henry Dougal 38 left widow and children George, Alexander, Margaret, Mary-Ann and Henry
John Dougal 28 brother of above, left widow Jessie Purves (her father was James Purves lost on the Myrtle), daughter Jessie Hood Dougal b. 9 Nov 1881
William Maltman 35 left widow, daughter Johnsena b. 25 Jul 1882 other children Janet, David and Magiie
George Dougal 25 left widow and children Jane and Mary
Thomas Fisher 30 left widow, daughter Thomasina b. 16 Dec 1881, children William, Alice, Janet, Elizabeth and Ann
James Dougal 24 or 30 newly married or single (newspaper says one thing, Aitchison's book says the other
George Whillis 39 left widow and children Josephn & John


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Post by: Karen Botting on Tuesday 06 May 14 22:44 BST (UK)
Hi I just came across this whilst researching for my daughter's homework. My gr, gr Grandad was Thomas Fisher. My gr grandmother Thomasina and my grandmother Alice Gillie.
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Post by: elizabethh on Tuesday 06 May 14 23:15 BST (UK)
Good Evening Karen, Ca you go back further up Thomas's tree; if you would like further dtails please let me know - we appear to be of the same family.   Elizabeth.
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Post by: Karen Botting on Wednesday 07 May 14 00:30 BST (UK)
Bruce 1746 are you related to an Agnes Maltman? Herring Queen in 1955?
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Post by: Karen Botting on Wednesday 07 May 14 00:34 BST (UK)
Elizabeth how exciting and yes please. Sadly my main source of family info died last week. James Gillie my Grandmother Alice's younger brother. He too was a fishermen from Eyemouth.

Regards Karen
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Post by: bruce1746 on Wednesday 07 May 14 05:28 BST (UK)
Bruce 1746 are you related to an Agnes Maltman? Herring Queen in 1955?

Hi Karen, I couldn't tell you if I'm related to Agnes to be honest. My G-G-Grandfather William Maltman (his father drowned on the 'Guiding Star') moved from Eyemouth to Fraserburgh somtime at the end 1800's, there is possibly a connection with Agnes somewhere down the line.
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Post by: still_looking on Wednesday 09 July 14 13:25 BST (UK)
I read about the disaster in the following:

An Old-time Fishing Town - Eyemouth its history romance and tragedy with an account of the East Coast Fishing Disaster, Rev. Daniel McIver; Greenock 1906.

It was reprinted in 1981.

Its been a while since I read it so I can't say for certain but I think the author might have witnessed the aftermath. He certainly described it in some detail.

S_L
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Post by: n751cas on Saturday 20 September 14 14:49 BST (UK)
Bruce 1746 are you related to an Agnes Maltman? Herring Queen in 1955?

Hi Karen, I couldn't tell you if I'm related to Agnes to be honest. My G-G-Grandfather William Maltman (his father drowned on the 'Guiding Star') moved from Eyemouth to Fraserburgh somtime at the end 1800's, there is possibly a connection with Agnes somewhere down the line.

Hi Bruce

Seems like we have a family history. William Maltmans my Great Grandfather also. My dads named after him.

Alan.