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Title: James George son of George Young from Chelsea to Lambeth
Post by: Alberbury on Sunday 23 September 12 12:31 BST (UK)
Help needed to find marriage of George and Jemima.

St. Lukes, Chelsea
bp. 28 Dec 1836  George  son of  George  Young  Ellis Street  Printer
                                               Jemima

Holy Trinity, Brompton
bp. 14 Feb 1847  James Richard   son of  George  Young  Queens?  Compositor
                                                          Jemima             Gardens

St. Lukes, Chelsea
bp. 26 June 1853  Henry William   son of  George  Young  Cumberland  Compositor
                                                           Jemima             Street

1841 C   no. 7 York Street, Chelsea
George Young         35  Printer _ ?      all Yes
Jamima Young        25                   
George Young         5
Robert Robins         30  m.s.
Stephen Spackman  26

1851 C  301. Cumberland Street, St. Lukes, Chelsea
George Young   Head  mar  48  Compositor   Middx  Chelsea
Jemima Young  Wife   mar  36                     Bucks  Reading
Richard Young   son            4   Scholar         Middx  Chelsea
William Young   son            2                      Middx  Chelsea           

James george Young  full age  B.   Shoe maker  South Street  George Young  Type founder
amelia allen              full age  Sp.                     South Street  ______  ______
mar. 6 Dec 1858 St.Mary, Lambeth
p. Samuel Bennington
   Edw. Powell

The baptism is as George but marries as James George Young. Is this correct?
         
Title: Re: James George son of George Young from Chelsea to Lambeth
Post by: ..claire.. on Sunday 23 September 12 12:54 BST (UK)
Can't find marriage either, definitely not the same family from Dorset, they are there in 1841.

claire
Title: Re: James George son of George Young from Chelsea to Lambeth
Post by: Alberbury on Sunday 23 September 12 17:18 BST (UK)
Thanks for looking Claire t

I thought it was unlikely. With Jemima being born in Reading.

17 June 1836 Purse Caundle, Dorset 
         George Young    B.   o.t.p.  f. James Young
        Jemima Snook  wid.  o.t.p   f. James Hamblin
Title: Re: James George son of George Young from Chelsea to Lambeth
Post by: Alberbury on Wednesday 27 May 15 19:11 BST (UK)
Possible baptism.

George Young
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth:   22 January 1803   
christening:   16 February 1803   ST. JAMES', WESTMINISTER, MIDDLESEX, ENGLAND
residence:   1803   Westminster, London, England   
father:   Robert Young
mother:   Mary
Title: Re: James George son of George Young from Chelsea to Lambeth
Post by: ..claire.. on Thursday 28 May 15 09:45 BST (UK)
Hi

Not sure if you ever found the marriage, but I can help now. I dont have a sub with FindMyPast so can't give a date, but by doing a general search of a JEMIMA marrying a GEORGE YOUNG gave one result in 1836. It's in the " West Middlesex Marriage Index".

Bride's name: Jemima GLASS.

This looks like her baptism record in the NC records for Arborfield Independant

Jemima Glass bpt. 2 August 1812 dau. of James and Charlotte, of Arborfield (Berks), about 4 miles from Reading.

claire
Title: Re: James George son of George Young from Chelsea to Lambeth
Post by: Alberbury on Friday 29 May 15 16:59 BST (UK)
Great find, Claire.t,

Google has not produced any results. I will give this a look in my local archives.
Thanks.  ;D
Title: Re: James George son of George Young from Chelsea to Lambeth
Post by: Alberbury on Tuesday 11 December 18 18:29 GMT (UK)
http://www.arborfieldhistory.org.uk/Census/Dissenters_baptisms.htm


There is a register of Dissenters' Baptisms at Arborfield covering the period 1759 to 1836. Spellings were rather haphazard.



31-Jan 1802    Mary Ann    d/o    James & Charlotte    GLASS
24-Jan 1804     Ester         d/o    James & Charlotte    GLASS
11-Aug 1805    Sharlout    d/o    James & Charlotte    GLASS
29-Nov 1807    Elizabeth    d/o    James & Charlotte    GLASS
26-Nov 1809   Lettisher    d/o    James & Charlotte    GLASS
02-Aug 1812   Jemima    d/o    James & Charlotte    GLASS     
04-Feb 1816    Ann          d/o    James & Charlotte    GLASS
06-Sep 1818    James      s/o    James & Charlotte    GLASS
22-Apr 1821    Sarah       d/o    James & Charlotte    GLASS
22-Feb 1824    Caroline    d/o    James & Charlotte    GLASS




http://www.arborfieldhistory.org.uk/churches.htm
http://www.arborfieldhistory.org.uk/churches_dissenters.htm
http://www.arborfieldhistory.org.uk/censusdata.htm

 Until 2003, we knew almost nothing about a Dissenters' Chapel in Arborfield, because there were very few direct references to it. There was a mention of a 'Methodist Chapel' in the 1839 Tithe Apportionment Map's 'Terrier' (List of properties), and in the 1851 Census the building was listed as 'One Chapel, not used for twelvemonth'. It was probably demolished soon after.

It was situated immediately opposite the 'Bull' Public House on the Reading Road, next to one of two cottages. 




http://www.arborfieldhistory.org.uk/Census/census_Master_Index_EG.htm

Here is the combined 1841 - 1901 index for all households within Arborfield and Newland, together with those in the detached part of Wokingham. Please note that we have tried to preserve the original spellings as much as possible, so check all alternative spellings.

GLASS      Sarah        37 Age     New.    Ref. 59     1851 census         
   










   

   
   


   
   
   

   




   


   


   




   
   

   
   

   



   






   





   


   


   

   

   


   



   



   


   
   


   
   

   

Title: Re: James George son of George Young from Chelsea to Lambeth
Post by: Alberbury on Thursday 30 April 20 18:02 BST (UK)
1841 C   no. 7 York Street, Chelsea
George Young         35  Printer _ ?      all Yes
Jamima Young        25                   
George Young         5
Robert Robins         30  m.s.
Stephen Spackman  26



https://www.londonroll.org/event/?company=STN&event_id=STEW705

Date:    3d Dec'r 1839
Year:    1839

Bond Length:    7 years
Bond Value:    No Money

William Henry Bragg Martin (Male)
- Location unknown, County unknown      New apprentice    

Richard Young (Male)
Printer - York Street Hans Place Chelsea, Middlesex      Master    Co Stationer & Newspaper Maker

William Martin (Male)
Carpenter - 4 Marigole Court Star Corner Bermondsey, Surrey      Father of apprentice



 http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pe6/

The Post Office London Directory  1843    Page 444
 
Young Richard, bookseller, 7 York st. Sloane st. Chelsea



http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pe7/

The London Gazette, Part 1     1848   Page 491
By Great Britain

Young, Richard (decd.)  7 York-street, Han's Place, Chelsea       Gentleman

Title: Re: James George son of George Young from Chelsea to Lambeth
Post by: Alberbury on Friday 01 May 20 14:19 BST (UK)
Could I have some help please with the baptism of George Young born 1803-1806 in Chelsea.

Would be interesting if it was Richard Young.

Thanks Alberbury.

Title: Re: James George son of George Young from Chelsea to Lambeth
Post by: ..claire.. on Saturday 02 May 20 00:52 BST (UK)
Hi Alberbury

Lots of George Youngs about in the timeframe you are looking for (1803-6)

What happened to your George Young ? Have you checked the 1871 census ? There is a George Young widower and a printer in the workhouse aged 72 years and born in the City of London c1799. Is this him do you think ?

Then there is this baptism at St Dunstan in the West in the City of London

George Young bapt. 13 Jan 1799 son of Richard and Susanna.

Just re-reading this thread and noted the address 'York Street' where George was in 1841 and the Gazette clipping. Richard Young left a PCC Will (free to look at on the NA at the minute) - left his business to 'HIS SON GEORGE' - mentions 'York Street'

Richard Young was living in Enfield at Chase Side (address mentioned in the Will) when he was buried 24 Jul 1847 aged 82 - so a birth year c1765. Richard Young was born 14 Jan 1765 and bapt.
12 Jul 1765 at St Andrew Enfield son of Alexander and Elizabeth Young.

I think Richard Young married Susannah James in 1784 - had quite a few children up to c1800. In the 1841 census there is a Richard Young in Chelsea bn c1770 with a much younger woman Ann Young aged 40. Found this marriage:

St Mary's  Bryanston Square 13 December 1837

Richard Young 'full age' widower and stationer of 7 York St. Chelsea.   Father: Alexander Young - Land M ? ?
Ann Simpson 'full age' spinster of 21 Quebec St. Father: Robert Simpson - ironmonger.

Both signed register
Witnesses: Francis Berry and Hepzibah Berry.

Claire
Title: Re: James George son of George Young from Chelsea to Lambeth
Post by: Alberbury on Saturday 02 May 20 19:33 BST (UK)
Hi claire

Very impressive results and thank you for your time spent on this research.

You have given me information that supports my lucky find of a connection to George and Richard.

When we get back to normality I can get some copies at my local archives.

Thanks Alberbury 

Title: Re: James George son of George Young from Chelsea to Lambeth
Post by: Alberbury on Sunday 03 May 20 18:48 BST (UK)
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Insured: George Young 108 Hatton Garden copper plate printer

Records of Sun Fire Office. Insured: George Young 108 Hatton Garden copper plate printer
Held by:    London Metropolitan Archives: City of London
Date:    25 January 1827
Reference:    MS 11936/507/1054706



Insured: George Young 108 Hatton Garden copper plate printer

Records of Sun Fire Office.Policy register. Insured: George Young 108 Hatton Garden copper plate printer
Held by:    London Metropolitan Archives: City of London
Date:    21 April 1829
Reference:    MS 11936/517/1090373



Insured: George Young, 108 Hatton Garden, card maker and copper plate printer Other property or...

Records of Sun Fire Office. Insured: George Young, 108 Hatton Garden, card maker and copper plate printer Other property or occupiers: chaser
Held by:    London Metropolitan Archives: City of London
Date:    13 March 1833
Reference:    MS 11936/537/1153463



Insured: George Nutley 8 Marlborough Road Chelsea gent Other property or occupiers: 7 York Street...

Records of Sun Fire Office.Policy register. Insured: George Nutley 8 Marlborough Road Chelsea gent Other property or occupiers: 7 York Street Westminster (Young, stationer)
Held by:    London Metropolitan Archives: City of London
Date:    28 October 1828
Reference:    MS 11936/521/1082047