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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Selkirkshire => Topic started by: houseofbrown on Friday 02 November 12 01:36 GMT (UK)
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According to the MI in The Auld Kirkyard, Selkirk, my 4xgg uncle, George Rodger, was married firstly to Isabella Cunningham (died 3/9/1792) and then to Christina Robertson (died 5/5/1822).
I have been unable to locate the marriage record to Isabella but have found an OPR marriage to a Bell Chininhame at Selkirk on 15/9/1786.
Dates and time frames seem to match pretty well and I wonder if Isabella Cunningham and Bell Chinnhame are one and the same person.
Would appreciate an opinion please.
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I would definitely agree this looks like the same name just spelled as it was heard. Did they have any children where the parish records may have the same spelling if it was the same minister so that you can tie it up for definite?
Barbara
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A George Rodger married Janet Beveridge on 20.05.1794 in Dunfermline, Fife. They had a son George on 29.04.1798 in Abbotshall, Fife (I think he had a sisters Margaret and ??/ Grizel. Wonder is there a connection
Good wishes, Danishdots
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Barbara, I did manage to find 3 births and Isabella is variously described as Isoble/Isabel/Bell Cunningham/Chuningham so I reckon that it pretty close to Chininhame and I'm convinced I have the right person. Thank you for replying.
Hello Danishdots. So far I have been unable to find a connection with this family of Rodgers but who knows.... Thank you for your reply. Bill.
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Sorry to butt in, but is this the George Rodger, writer in Selkirk, son of James Rodger, Deacon in 1752?
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Hello 1716
This is a relatively new branch of my tree and I therefore haven't got a lot of detail on the Rodgers but this is what I have:
James Rodger (1724-1773) my 5 x ggrandfather married Janet Clark. He is buried at Auld Kirkyard, Selkirk. Monumental Inscription describes him as 'late Merchant and Baillie in Selkirk'.
His father, William Rodger (1677-1763) married Margaret Easton. His MI in Auld Kirkyard states 'Here lyes William Rodger late Deacon of the Taylors in Selkirk who died 25/1/1763 aged 86yrs'.
Does this sound like a connection you have?
Regards, Bill.
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Sorry 1716, that's "late deacon of the tailors"
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I'm not connected in anyway. I know George Rodger was a writer in Selkirk who, in 1782, was trying to "cultivate the friendship" of the Incorporation of Taylors. Also on the accompt someone has transcribed "probably son of James Rodger, Deacon in 1752"
If these are the same Rodgers than I don't think you will have much trouble tracing them as writers tended to be well documented, and I beleive George was also the town clerk in Selkirk.
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Have sent it.
What you may notice, apart from the excellent handwritten, is the 1782 looks like a 1702!
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Hi Bill There are a few more Rodgers in Brierylaw cemetery Nos 4,5 and 6 .They lived in the big house Bridgelands which is in the side road from Selkirk to Lindean cemetery.
I will try and find out if any Tailors records are available.
alan
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Hi Alan,
Thread hijack.....
Hawick hub have some Selkirk Incorporation of Taylor records, although not that many, one book from about 1790 early 1800 and a few papers.
If you have access to any more could you find out who John Inglis was from 1782, and why they prohibited the Bruntons from Yarrowford from working in the town!
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There was also a Georg Rodger (described as a merchant) and his spouse Janet Tait giving birth to a child called Isobel on the 26th June 1764. Baptised by Rev. Mr Andrew Moir at Selkirk.
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Thanks 1716. This George Rodger is my 5 x gg uncle and is son of William Rodger, late Deacon of the Tailors. Isobel, my 1 cousin 6x removed, is one of 4 children.
Bill.
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Hi Alan
I'll try and establish whether there is a family connection to the Rodgers in Brierylaw (seems like it was quite a large family). Would appreciate any 'Tailor's records' that you may be able to find.
Cheers, Bill. (My connection to Selkirk is snow balling - must be related to half the people in the town by now!)
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They lived in the big house Bridgelands
This house
http://farmsandestatessearch.savills.co.uk/property-detail/GBEDRUEDR130017/list
"The house itself dates from 1791 and was remodelled between 1842 and 1851 by
John Smith of Darnick for George Rodger, factor for the Napier and Thirlestane estates."
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Hello to all the Rodger Family researchers. Its been years since I logged into Rootschat but thankfully my user/pass still worked:-)
I was recently in the UK in Scotland mostly research my own kin the Patterson's but while over I met an elderly relative who is quite ill and now lives on the Isle of White. He asked me if I would have a search for his ancestry as he has never known who his Grandfather and other family were and I hesitantly agreed.
My name is Jim Patterson and I am connecting from Vancouver Island Canada. The purpose of my contact is to ask if you or any other researchers happen to hold any information on a William James Rodger who was born abt 1887(location unknown) but was known as James Rodger on his daughters marriage certificate. Wm James Rodger married Sarah Holden Graham 5-Nov-1909 in Hawick, Roxburghshire, Scotland and they had but one known child, Margaret Bell Graham Rodger. William James Rodgers parents were said to be William Rodger and Jane Bowland I believe?
Margaret Bell Graham Rodger was born13 July 1911 at 5 Overhaugh St, Galashiels, Selkirkshire, Scotland. Soon after this birth it seems Wm "James" Rodger and Sarah split up and eventually divorced or William James perhaps died?
Sarah H Rodger Nee Graham remarried Daniel Clark Graham at Newcastle Upon Tyne Bet Oct-Dec 1921 and they had 6 children. Mary, Ruby, Wm, James, Walter abd Jemima or Mima?
Any and all help and suggestions greatly appreciated as this distant cousins father was a Prison Snr Guard at Parkhurst and other hanging jails and on the Burma Trail as a POW in the first world war.
Cheers Jim Patterson
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Hello Jim
I've had a good look at my connection with the Rodgers but have been unable to find a link to the names you mention.
Good luck with your search. (Have you tried Scotlands People?)
Bill.
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Would appreciate any 'Tailor's records' that you may be able to find.
theres some "incorporation of tailor" minute books and other records at Hawick Hub, and also with museum services in Selkirk.
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Many thanks for the reply and suggestion, will go back to scotlandspeople site and see if I can locate a connection:-)
Cheers Jim
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re House of Brown-George Rodger 1760-1834. My gg grandfather Francis b 1764 was the brother of George born 1760. Francis married Jane Nicol who lived on Skye before moving to Selkirk. Their son John b Selkirk 9/4/1817was overseer of stock on Norfolk Island during the convict settlement which closed in 1856. John married Bridget Hannah Connors (a children's nanny) on Norfolk Island and their daughter Robina b1853 and son John Henry b 1855 were born on Norfolk Island John Rodger was buried at Forbes NSW (Aust) and his tombstone reads John Rodger a native of Selkirk Scotland. John Henry is also buried there along with my father James Rodgers b 1887 and uncle John Henry 2nd .I have a book written by Thomas Samuel Stewart :Norfolk Island 1855 waiting for the Pitcairners in which John Rodger is mentioned almost on a daily basis.
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Hello Mighty Atom and welcome to Roostchat.
Thank you for sharing your family line and I have plotted it on my tree which suggests that we are 4th cousins 2xremoved. It's interesting that another branch of the tree has found its way to Australia and, when I get a minute, I'll have a good look at the connection.
Regards
Bill. (Adelaide)
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Thank you for your reply.How exciting!-I am new at this . I do not know how or why John Rodger became overseer of stock on Norfolk Island and I do not know what siblings he had. Both he and his son John Henry worked as stockman on Burrawang Station near Forbes .Burrawang Stn. was broken up and the home my father, James built at Bedgerabong was part of the station. The name became Rodgers.
John Rodger's wife Bridget was Catholic and did not attend the services given by the Officer in Charge ,T.S.Stewart on Norfolk, much to the annoyance of the latter. I am curious to know of what religion the Rodger family of Selkirk were. T.S. Stuarts journal is a good read and gives one a good idea of Norfolk Island in those days.
At the time the journal was written there were only a few people left on the island to care take. The convicts had been removed to Hobart. The book is out of print but is in the National Library of Aust ISBN 0646075010.(pkb)Dewey Number 994 8203. I bought my copy from a second hand book shop ,Barter Books in the UK. Mighty Atom