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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: jmol17 on Saturday 03 November 12 23:32 GMT (UK)
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Looking for any info on the marriage of Amos Booth (b1802 derbyshire) and Anastasia (last name not known) poss in Cork or Waterford around 1839. Amos is from Derbyshire and his brother John had Booth and Fox feather merchants in Cork (Lavitts Quay). Amos also a feather dealer but his childrens births are in Waterford.
Any info gratefully received.
Thanks
J
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Where in Waterford where the children births and baptisms can't see any on
http://waterford.rootsireland.ie
Was Amos jewish?
Castlemcauliffe
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Hi Thanks for your reply
Sorry I don't know where in Waterford. They moved back to England around 1852 and on all census returns it just says born Waterford - dates are John b 1841, William 1842, George 1844, Amos 1847 and Thomas 1850. Amos senior was born in Derbyshire and as far as I know was not jewish. His son John married at Manchester cathedral in 1865.
Amos was a feather dealer in Manchester on his return from Ireland for Booth and Fox who had a business there as well as in Cork so I wondered if they married in Cork, Anastasia was b in Waterford.
J
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What religion was down for the rest of the Booth family his son etc.
Roman Catholic records for Waterford are only online at the moment for baptisms at least.
Some of the COI marriages are on http://waterford.rootsireland.ie
But Amos Booth don't appear
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They were C of E.
Amos's brother John Peter Booth of Cork had some children christened at Shandon and Santry if that helps.
J
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Hi,
Can't help on Amos Booth but I do have some headstone photos for
some Booths buried in Cork, may be connected to your family. Booth is quite an
uncommon name
1 James Booth Fox
2 John Bradley Booth d 1905 aged 64 & his 3rd son Rev Robert M.B. died in China
& his wife Jane
3 William Crawford Booth, also his parents John & Rachel
Let me know if you would like the photos
Mary
Celtic Liberty
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Thank you for your reply. I have been looking back at research and as well as Amos Booth and John Peter Booth their sister Mary Booth married Adam Fox (who was the Fox of Booth and Fox feather purifiers/ quilt manufacturers of Lavitts Quay) Their children were also born in Cork so James Booth Fox must be theirs so would be grateful for pictures. John Bradley Booth is also a relative I think. I will look for William C.
Thanks again
J
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Hello jmol17, my great great grandfather was Adam Fox of Fox and Booth Ltd. I have been trying to work out why he left Derbyshire and moved to Cork in the 1830s before returning to Derbyshire before 1851. I was not aware of this connection before I found this post. Do you have any informatio you can share on Adam Fox or Fox and Booth Ltd.
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Hi Celtic Liberty,
My Great Grandfather is John Bradley Booth of Cork and I am trying to find out who his parents, siblings and grandparents are. Can you help?
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Hi Pinkfoot2,
I presume you are referring to the John Bradley Booth who died in 1905. I have a photo of his headstone in my database if you would like a copy I can give you my email address by PM. You can't send private messages at the moment as you only have one post on rootschat.
This is the census return for him in 1901.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/No__6_Urban__South_Centre/South_Mall__part_of_/1110368/
His wife's maiden name was Sunner. They married in 1868. You could order their marriage certificate from the General Register office , Convent Road, Roscommon , Ireland You will get the reference numbers when you click on the one you want. If you ask for a photocopy for genealogy purposes it costs €4 as against the full official one which costs €20. You need to send the details of a credit or debit card so they can deduct the cost. It means you will be giving them the card number, expiry date and the secure code on reverse of card. I do it regularly and they are really efficient. I ordered some last Thursday and I received them this morning, really fast.
John Bradley Booth's father's name was John Booth, and Jane Sunner's father's name was Richard.
There are many references to Richard Sunner of Cork just google him.
Below is the link to the www.familysearch.org site where the Irish birth marriage and death record references are available. The following are the records connected to Jane Sunner - her marriage to John Bradley Booth and some birth records for their children.
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Ajane~%20%2Bsurname%3Asunner~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Acork~
One of John Bradley Booth's children was Richard Sunner Booth living at Altona Place Cork. (Spelling of Altond incorrect on census).
One of Richard's children was named after his grandfather John Bradley Booth.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Cork_No__5_Urban/Altond_Place/394899/
Your John Bradley Booth was born in Bandon and was a Methodist. The records for the Methodist are held in Belfast. You could contact the church in Bandon and they might be able to help you.
http://www.bandonmethodist.org/home/contactus.php
Hope my reply is some help to you.
Mary
Celtic Liberty
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Hi Mary,
Thank you for the information. I am trying to find out more about John Booth - John Bradley Booth's (1841 - 1905) father and mother - possibly might be called Eliza. My Grandfather Rev. Dr. Robin T. Booth died in Cork on 22/06/1912 following complications after an operation.
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Hello all who view this thread,
jmol17 and I have a common interest in Amos Booth and also Booth & Fox, I hate to disappoint Pinkfoot2 and Celtic Liberty but your Booth line is not related to that connected to the Company or to the Booths who came from Derbyshire
For lemmontart "Greetings long distant cousin" To explain John Booth of Chapel-en-le-Frith Derbyshire had 3 sons and many daughters John Peter Booth (b. 1805) left CelF for Ireland in the late 1820s/early 30s and was joined by his Bro in Law Adam Fox (wife Mary Booth married 1832 in Manchester) In Partnership they established Booth & Fox which ran as a successful Company well into the 20th century making bedding, inventing the down quilt and providing these type of goods throughout the Empire.
John Peter's brother Amos also went to Ireland in the mid 30s where he probably traded as a feather dealer which was his calling when he returned to Manchester in h 1850s. We do not know if he worked for Booth & Fox or was a supplier a mystery. Both jmol17 and I are descendents of Amos albeit of different sons.
The formal partnership between the owners was legally disolved in the late 1850s (London Gazette) but both families still had members who were involved in running the business, the Booth involvement tapered off later in the 19th century but the Fox family who were cousins of the Booths carried on the business.
There are lots of references to the company on the web but I have not been able to establish when it ceased trading or what happened to the company archives.
In Derbyshire the Booths and Foxes were much entwined since Hannah, wife of the original John Booth, after several years a widow married Adam Fox her husbands executor and father of her daughter Mary's husband so becoming mother in law as well as mother to her daughter.
I think I had better stop there. There is a lot of info. available about the Fox family in Derbyshire.
jgb113
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Hi.
I don't have any connection to Booth or Fox. I had some headstone photos which I sent to some of the posters here when contacted by PM.
Just trying to help.
Mary
Celtic Liberty
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Hi all
Sorry for the late addition to this thread. John Peter is my 3 x great grandfather. I don't know whether this is any use to you but I have a "possible marriage" for Amos in the Ireland Catholic Parish Registers 1655-1915 but the spelling of the name is wrong it's been transcribed as Emirs Booth marriage date April 1846 in Suttons, Wexford, Ireland, wife Anastatia Shelloe. I've not had a chance to check the original document so this might be a red herring but worth a look. I linked up to it as maybe a spelling mistake as I have had a few of those and although the Booth family were Church of England I was unsure whether Anastatia may have been catholic.
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Hi RosyBooks,
As near as I can make out you are my 4th cousin once removed given that John Peter Booth is your 3 x Great grandfather.
Thanks for the reply, jmol and I had become aware of this wedding which is correct despite the misspelling (if you put on a thick accent Emirs is phonetically perfect for Amos!) when the Irish parish registers were issued some months ago.
It was curious because I found the wedding and let jmol know but then went away for some days meanwhile she had found the baptism of 3 of the children some 3 weeks prior to the wedding at the same church. Still haven't worked that one out!
Many thanks for thinking of us and do let me know if there is any information we can provide you with about other parts of the Booth family. You probably have some other information that may be helpful to us from your own researches but historically the Booths do not really seem to have been a "close" family. I'll be in touch later if that's ok when I have gathered my thoughts.
Regards
jgb113
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Thanks for your reply. I've only fairly recently discovered my link to the Booths as I was at a brick wall with Harriet Hannah Roath my 2 x g grandmother who turned out to be Harriet Hannah Booth, yet another spelling mistake.
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Name HARRIETT HANNAH BOOTH
Date of Event 1861
Group Registration ID N/R
SR District/Reg Area Cork
Returns Year 1861
Returns Quarter 1
Returns Volume No 4
Returns Page No 470
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Birth, Marriage and Death results for Booth of Cork from 1845 to
Displaying results 1 - 94 of 94. irishgenealogy
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jes/
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Yes that's her thank you. She married Henry Richard Harris.
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Hi all jmol17 here
looked at the post of booth births and found a birth of Edward Earlam Booth 1864 Cork - Father John Peter Booth Belleview house mother Hannah Ransford Bird. Found that John Peter married again in Bristol to the above Hannah in 1859 - his first wife Harriet Barbara Chamley died in 1856 (FindMyPast) Most trees associated with Harriet have her death in 1884. Quite a few records re Edward Earlam on various sites too.
JMol
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Hi jmol17
I had seen that marriage but hadn't linked him to our John Peter, but as our John Peter died in Bristol that would make sense. The Booths seem to have travelled/moved around a lot, it must have been with regard to the business. I have even traced them to Chelmsford in Essex. I've not done much on my trees just recently and let my subscription to Ancestry lapse so I will have to get back into it again.
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This may only be a bit of an aside to your queries:
My Great Grandfather was Secretary to Booth & Fox Limited/ Monkstown/ co Cork. He was an Accountant.
Here is a link to Guy's Almanac 1913: SEE PAGE 121 http://www.corkpastandpresent.ie/places/streetandtradedirectories/1913guysdirectorylmx/#/122/
or pdf version:
http://www.corkpastandpresent.ie/places/streetandtradedirectories/guyscorkalmanac1913_OCR.pdf
Both Messrs. Booth and Fox were listed as residents of Monkstown co. Cork, approximately 14 km. southeast of Cork City.
I don't know if this might help you to narrow your search.
Mike
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As a further thought, the Monkstown, co. Cork address might be a farm location for the feather business.
Mike