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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Boomeranger on Monday 12 November 12 03:08 GMT (UK)
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Trying to find any record of ancestor Robert Robertson who was in Hobart Town with the 99th Regiment of Foot in 1851, then in the 12th Reg. of Foot around 1856, then he and wife Janet, children Robert, Nicholas, Alexander, James and Mary are back in Scotland for the 1861 Census, where he is recorded as a Chelsea Pensioner. By the 1871 Scottish Census his wife (who has mysteriously been renamed 'Mary', but the link to the children confirms it is the correct family) is a widow. His son Alexander later endows St. Bartholomew's Church in Gourock with a commemorative brass eagle lectern dedicated to 'Robert Robertson (Hobart)' which makes me wonder if Robert made his way back to Tasmania before he died? The Tasmanian BDM site now appears to say I cannot search for BDM results on that site, but I know I could do so in the past. Any advice would be appreciated.
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The Tasmanian BDM site now appears to say I cannot search for BDM results on that site, but I know I could do so in the past.
Colonial Tasmanian Family Links database:
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=8
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Hi Boomeranger,
Corporal (849) Robert Robertson, 99th Regiment, transferred into the 12th Regiment with the rank of Private (3716). Robertson was one of 185 volunteers of the 99th Regiment who transferred into the 1st Battalion 12th Regiment on the 1st November 1855 while stationed in Hobart, Tasmania, and prior to the 99th’s departure from Australia to England.
I am not sure when Robertson returned to England and took his discharge. However, Robertson returned to Western Australia as an Enrolled Pensioner (rank private) in 12th September 1864, as a guard of convicts on the ship Merchantman.
I have copies of two letters that Robertson wrote to his father while she was tationed in Australia..pls refer to website
larbalapplication.appspot.com
This a site dedicated to the 12th Regiment.
Pls email me if I may be of further assistance.
Regards,
Ken
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Death of a Robert Robertson (born Scotland) in Hobart 1878 #1233 -
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-35346-8972-16?cc=2125029&wc=M7HG-4NL:387523701,387590301,387607701
Appears to have been buried in a paupers grave at Cornelian Bay as Robinson, Robert -
http://server2.admin.millingtons.com.au:81/ASP/search_details.asp?RecordID=2006
Cheers,
Peter
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Thanks for your info Ken, I have attempted to send you my records regarding Robert Robertson direct to your website email address.
Peter, thanks for that, I am dubious that this is 'my' Robert Robertson, as his birthdate was 1817, but who knows!
Also, someone sent me a message a while back (which I can't find, are old RootsChat responses filed in a special section?), which said there was a possibility Robert Robertson died in Mauritius. I would appreciate that link again, if anyone can help.
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Hi Boomeranger,
I am a teacher at Albuera Street Primary School across the road from Anglesea Barracks in Hobart and have a collaborative funded project with the military museum there to develop an education resource. It is through looking for information for this that I came across information on Robert Robertson written by Ken who has replied to your message. (Thanks Ken). I was particularly interested in Robertson as his son, James, broke his leg falling down the stairs in the Barracks and would have been taken to the military hospital there. Part of the education resource features profiles on children at the Barracks over the years and I am hoping to include James and his siblings in these profiles so any information you have in terms of dates of birth, etc. would be useful in developing a chronology of their life and linking that to the broader events that happened while they were at the Barracks, I know James was the youngest son when a letter was written in 1856 just after he broke his leg (thanks to Ken) but don't have a great deal more information apart from general info on the movement of the regiments Robertson was in. I am also interested in providing information on what became of these children in their later lives. Any help you (or Ken) could provide would be greatly appreciated and acknowledged in the final resource.
Regards,
David
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I neglected to mention in my last message that you can send an email to the email address on the school website requesting it be directed to me. http://education.tas.edu.au/albuerastreetprimary/Pages/home.aspx. I will then reply using my own email rather than posting it publically on this site.
Regards,
David Boon
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Hi David,
Until Andrew gets around to replying... you will find there are several threads here on RC with a large amount of information on Robert ROBERTSON's children & their descendants.
You can find the details by following all the different links below:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=506901.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=688751.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=516882.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=663052.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=495183.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=492748.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=623296.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=495560.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=672380.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=687213.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=680584.0
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You can contact Ken via email:
ken.larbalestier[AT]yahoo.com.au
His website:
http://larbalapplication.appspot.com
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Hello David, your project sounds very interesting and I will be very pleased to help in any way I can. I emailed your school contact last night marked your attention. The very comprehensive links given by Merlin to all my past 'pleadings' for information on RootsChat will open to cover virtually all the information I have to date, but I do have a few other snippets, including a photo of my great grandfather Alexander who would have attended the school. Taken as a 60+ year old man, not a schoolboy, however! Maybe your research will turn up some old class photos of the era, that would be fun. I'm always amazed how far back in time there was photography. Cheer, Andrew
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Merlin,
Thanks for the additional information. This will be extremely useful in piecing together the chronology of the family against the events they lived through while at the Barracks.
Andrew,
I will follow up with an email when your message is forwarded by the office staff. I am not aware of any school photos of the time but there are certainly photos and paintings of the Barracks at various periods which I will send copies of and will let you know what else I discover. The building that was the hospital built between 1818 and the mid 1820s is still in existence and now used by the army as a private residence (usually for the commanding officer) I have found references to a schoolroom at the Barracks but need to do more research on this.
Regards,
David
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Andrew,
Just clarifying that the school I am currently at has been on this site since the 1950s and replaced an earlier one across Albuera Street that opened in 1914. One of the things I am hoping to discover is whether the children of the military in earlier times were educated at the Barracks or at the Battery Point School (which itself had two sites - one attached to St Georges Church from around 1849 and one in Hamden Road from the early 1880s). The Barracks has part of it's land fronting Albuera Street and the 1914 school is beside the Barracks buildings.
I will be in touch.
Regards,
David
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Andrew,
This article from 1854 shows that there was a school for the children at the Barracks. http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2240306?searchTerm=barracks school&searchLimits=l-state=Tasmania|||l-decade=185
Regards,
David
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I am unconvinced that his wife changed her name from Janet to Mary.
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Hello TheTowers, I assume you are referring to an earlier posting of mine where I quoted the records of the 1871 Scottish Census? I am not suggesting Janet ('Jessie') Robertson changed her name, it is clearly a transcription error made by the census taker, or maybe it was daughter Mary who answered the door and got confused over the question! All the other details, i.e. Mary C, daughter, 21, born Hobart Town Tasmania; Alexander P, son, 23, dentist assistant, born Sydney NSW; James A, 18, student Anderson University, born Hobart Town Tasmania, are quite correct, but nonetheless the first line of the record states Mary Robertson, head, widow, 56, born England.
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Hi, the Robert ROBINSON who was buried at Cornelian Bay Cemetery in 1878 was aged 70 yrs of age and his last address was the Brickfields. He is buried in a pauper's grave and there are two other men in that grave a Richard Bowden and Robert Cox.
The other death for Robert ROBINSON aged 56 yrs was in 1887 and he is buried with a Charlotte ROBINSON aged 86 (she died in 1889).
Webby
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The surname is ROBERTSON not Robinson, different people.
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Spelling of both ROBINSON/ROBERTSON varied from the Pioneer Index to the Cemetery Index. Both had the same date.....6/5/1878 - yes the other Robert's name was spelt ROBINSON. Not everyone could spell in those days!.