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Title: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: ellen3635 on Monday 12 November 12 21:11 GMT (UK)
my mum lived in clonmel with her family in ex servicemens houses,does anyone have any info. her family name was Cummins. this was in 1920-30 time
Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Wednesday 14 November 12 14:32 GMT (UK)
I believe they were in Glenconnor and built after WW1.

Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: bgoodman on Saturday 15 December 12 22:57 GMT (UK)
Hi, they were called the Glenconnor cottages at first. There were three roads of them, the first cottages were about a quarter of a mile from the second lot. The last lot were quite near the second lot, if you accessed it across a public right of way, a field. Should you go by road this Glenconnor was no where near the other two, miles away. My dear old dad would have probably known your family although sadly he died last Feb, aged 85. He knew everyone in all the three roads of cottages at one point.
Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Sunday 16 December 12 19:34 GMT (UK)
Only my maternal grandfather was from Clonmel, and his family had moved out to the country by about 1920. Most of us moved back in to the town in the 80s. Our grandparents may have been acquainted :)
Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: ellen3635 on Monday 17 December 12 20:34 GMT (UK)
thankyou for the information, I have now narrowed the house down to gort na carraige rockfied.
The family name was Cummins.
Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: london2011 on Monday 11 March 13 22:12 GMT (UK)
Sorry for bumping the thread but this thread caught my eye. I know little information about my Great Grandfather but have always been told that he lived in Ex-Servicemen's Cottages somewhere outside of Callan but have not found any existence of such cottages. However, Clonmel isn't too far from Callan, so could it possibly be that the Ex-Servicemens Cottages in Clomnel were the same ones he resided in?

Hi, they were called the Glenconnor cottages at first. There were three roads of them, the first cottages were about a quarter of a mile from the second lot. The last lot were quite near the second lot, if you accessed it across a public right of way, a field. Should you go by road this Glenconnor was no where near the other two, miles away. My dear old dad would have probably known your family although sadly he died last Feb, aged 85. He knew everyone in all the three roads of cottages at one point.

You mentioned that some of the cottages were built no where near the other two. Would you possibly happen to know whereabouts these houses were located?
Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: bgoodman on Tuesday 12 March 13 14:02 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your post. The cottages where not just built in Glenconnor, Clonmel, Co.Tipperary, they were also built in other parts of Co.Tipperary and perhaps other parts of Ireland. The Third cottages is still classified as Glenconnor just has a field between them which is easy walking distance. However, you would not be able to drive through it therefore to get there by car from the second cottages you would have to go to the other side of Clonmel. Sorry to mislead you, I was thinking in these modern times a field apart with no nearby road seems far away. Especially for a place name to share the same postal address. Thurles is now the keeper of C.Tipperary archive records and there may be info re the where about of these houses in Co Tipperary. I think Ardfinnan has some for example. Good luck with your research.
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Post by: atmartinas on Friday 26 April 13 16:41 BST (UK)
Thank you for your post. The cottages where not just built in Glenconnor, Clonmel, Co.Tipperary, they were also built in other parts of Co.Tipperary and perhaps other parts of Ireland. .... Thurles is now the keeper of C.Tipperary archive records and there may be info re the where about of these houses in Co Tipperary. I think Ardfinnan has some for example. Good luck with your research.

I was interested to read this thread, sorry to butt in with a question of my own. I have been trying to find info re my Grandfather in law, my husband said he thought that his grandfathers house was something to do with his WW1 army service. He lived in Littleton, so I am now thinking that they were Ex Servicemen's houses. I have searched in vain for any record of his army service on Ancestry maybe I can trace through his house. When you say that Thurles is keeper of records where exactly do you mean please.
Thanks
M

Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: bgoodman on Saturday 27 April 13 16:28 BST (UK)
Hi and welcome, I didn't start this thread myself although I have replied to posts. My brother often visits Thurles Library for research and the archives are stored there also. I believe the address is The Source, Cathedral Street, Thurles. Phone (0504) 29720 Fax (0504) 21344. The building contains archive information such as articles in Newspapers. Information can be viewed on microfilm and for a nominal fee can be copied. It is like a county archive records office although it may cover other counties also. Apparently there are manorial estate records and such like. You may need to contact them or look up on the internet exactly what other information they store and what areas they cover. Even if an employee points you in the right direction re where you may find archive records for your area it would be useful. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: atmartinas on Saturday 27 April 13 16:47 BST (UK)
Thanks for that, every little helps, I will give them a call monday and see what they have.
M
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Post by: Catherine Edwards on Wednesday 20 May 15 23:36 BST (UK)
My Mum lived in Glenconnor Cottages, her name was O'Brien she had two brothers and three sisters.  I hope to visit with her soon she is 95 and doing fine.
Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: Catherine Edwards on Monday 21 November 16 18:52 GMT (UK)
Hi
My Mum lived in ex service mens cottages Glenconnor with her family the O'Brien's way way back. She is now 96 and still tells the stories of her life there to her great grandchildren happy memories.
Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: bgoodman on Monday 21 November 16 21:48 GMT (UK)
Hi, I am happy to hear that your mom has such good memories of Glenconnor. Although you haven't mentioned whether your mom lived in the first second or third cottages. There is a lady who still lives in the second cottages, who will know most of the families who lived there. She has a business in the town centre, Clonmel, and was a councillor. She will have connections there. If you send me a PM I can give you her details, if you wish. I have often heard the third cottages referred to as 'the Kerry Road side'. The field that separated the cottages, 1st & 2nd from the third, remained unoccupied until recently. There was a notice to build there about a year ago. Hope that helps and good luck.
Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: Catherine Edwards on Monday 21 November 16 22:28 GMT (UK)
Not sure which cottages Glenconnor shall ask Mum tomorrow. Do know that my Uncle Johns best buddy was Georgie Goodman was he known to you?
Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: bgoodman on Monday 21 November 16 23:43 GMT (UK)
I will answe in a PM.
Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: bgoodman on Tuesday 22 November 16 00:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Catherine you should receive my answer in your inbox. Hopefully your mom will be able to remember more information. I believe the George Goodman that you are referring to died some years back. His wife has also passed away. Their only child died sadly aged 4 years. Your mom may know if there are any members of your O'Brien line, remaining in the area. I know that there was an O' Brien family living in Glenconnor in later years. They have dice left. I have a feeling that they were from Canada. They may not have been the original family or surname in that house. I wouldn't want to confuse your research. I also wouldn't know if their ancestors were connected to yours though. Perhaps returning to the ancestral home of Glenconnor.
Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: bgoodman on Tuesday 22 November 16 20:38 GMT (UK)
Thank you Catherine, I got your reply message in my inbox also. Please let me know if you need any information. At least you know now that your ancestors were from the second cottages, Glenconnor, Clonmel. I suggested my inbox for personal information in order to maintain privacy for living relatives. If only we could turn back the hands of time and get all the original Glenconnor ex service men, and their families, together once again. I would love to hear their stories. You are lucky to have that chance now with your mom. I wish her good health and cheer, she is a great age.
Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: liam_ob123 on Thursday 24 November 16 19:24 GMT (UK)
Hello, very interested in what I've been reading here! I'm an O'Brien; my father's family lived at 26 Glenconnor Cottages up until the 1950's. I've been researching my family and I'm hoping to get in touch with anyone from the area or someone who has knowledge of the family. Anyone able to help?

Regards,


Liam.
Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: bgoodman on Saturday 26 November 16 07:28 GMT (UK)
Hi, I believe your family may have been in the second cottages also. Just by trying to count the original cottages from memory. Now days the road has changed as folk have had extensions built to their properties. Also some people have sold part of their land and other houses have been built in between. If you google map the area it comes up as Glenconnor Heights. I have heard of Catherine's (O'Brien) family, who lived at 18. Another O'Brien family came later to another cottage further up the hill where the road curves around. They may have had a connection to Canada. Sorry but I am unable to be of more help. I can send you information in your inbox, if you wish, of lady who may be able to help.
Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: bgoodman on Saturday 26 November 16 08:00 GMT (UK)
The first house number of the second cottages is 15. The Road counties up a hill, leavels out, curves into a cul de sac.
Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: bgoodman on Saturday 26 November 16 08:03 GMT (UK)
By moving the photo to the right you can see the original part of the house.
Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: liam_ob123 on Saturday 26 November 16 17:20 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your reply and the photo, I really appreciate it! I would be keen to get in touch with the lady who may be able to assist, if you could send that info to me that would be great.

The possible link to Canada may bear  some fruit, I've heard that before elsewhere in my Irish family. Did I say thanks? Thanks again!

Kind regards

Liam

Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: bgoodman on Monday 28 November 16 19:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Liam, I have sent you a PM with the details. You should get it in your inbox. Good luck.
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Post by: MABliss on Saturday 21 April 18 20:04 BST (UK)
Hi there

New to this forum. Am very interested in anyone who would have known the McEvoys, at 17 Glenconnor Cottages? 1940's/early 50's?

Or is anyone has any old photo's of the street>
Many thanks
Title: Re: clonmel,ex servicemen houses,1920
Post by: bgoodman on Sunday 22 April 18 14:52 BST (UK)
Hi MABliss, I use to live at 15 but that was later on. Sorry but I have not got any old photos of Glenconnor, roads. There were three roads of cottages. Starting about a mile from the town centre. The first cottages are about a quarter of a mile from the second cottages. A field separated the third cottages. I believe the land, where the field was, has now been sold for construction. To approach those cottages you would have to go near to Clonmel town centre. Although there may be road access incorporated into the site’s building plans. I will send you a PM re who, living in Clonmel, may be prepared to help you. Good luck with the research.