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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Roscommon => Topic started by: bucksboy on Wednesday 14 November 12 13:30 GMT (UK)
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Hi folks.
George Taylor (c1857.Boyle) Occ.Jeweller/watchmaker, married Sarah Jane Shera(c1860.Boyle). 19 Aug 1880 @ The Parish Church, Boyle.
William Taylor, father, occ Jeweller, John Shera, father, Occ. Farmer.
William Taylor c1818, died 12 Nov 1877, aged 59, and was buried in Boyle parish church. Was married at the time of death, and registered by his son George Taylor.
Children to George & Sarah Jane Taylor.
William Glover Taylor. 1883. Boyle. (Ended up in Saskachewan, with wife Lulu(nee.Carscadden) and son Glover.)
John Shera Taylor. 1884. Boyle.
George Burns Taylor. 1886. Boyle. Died - 1 Oct 1918. WW1. Cambrai memorial. (Canadian Infantry).
Sarah Ann/Amy Taylor. 1888. Boyle.
Albert Edward Taylor. 1902. Boyle. (not confirmed, need b/cert).
Living in Bridge Street, Boyle in 1901 & 1911. The shop still exists today, but under the MaGee family, who I believe was apprenticed to the Taylor's.
George Burns Taylor, apparently married a Lilly White, and had a daughter Alice.(named on Georges attestation papers). George was widowed at this time.))
Anyone out there with any links to this specific family, or further info on the marriage & daughter of George Burns Taylor.
Thanks.
Steve. :)
PS. I am asking on behalf of a friend who is a direct descendant of this branch of Taylors.
UPDATED & EDITED.
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The following are links to online data as you have described to help focus people
Also name and details of 5th child as per census
Family 1901 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Roscommon/Boyle_Urban/Bridge_Street/1656834/)
William on 1901 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Sligo/Sligo_West_Urban/O_Connell_Street/1685691/)
Family on 1911 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Roscommon/Boyle_Urban/Bridge_Street/778917/)
No sign of William in 1911
Taylor Births 1881-1904 (https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Ataylor~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aboyle~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1881-1904~&collection_id=1408347)
includes the following civil records:
William Glover Taylor BOYLE 1882 Apr-Jun Volume 4 Page 87 (https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22william%20glover%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ataylor~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aboyle~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1882-1882&collection_id=1408347) possible death in 1957
John Shera Taylor BOYLE 1884 Jan-Mar Volume 4 Page 83 (https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22john%20shera%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ataylor~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aboyle~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1884-1884&collection_id=1408347) with possible death in 1953
George Burns Taylor BOYLE 1885 Jul-Sep Volume 4 Page 82 (https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22george%20burns%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ataylor~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aboyle~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1885-1885&collection_id=1408347)
Sarah Taylor BOYLE 1887 Jul-Sep Volume 4 Page 82 (https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22george%20burns%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ataylor~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aboyle~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1885-1885&collection_id=1408347)
Albert Edward Taylor BOYLE 1902 Jul-Sep Volume 4 Page 73 (https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22albert%20edward%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ataylor~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aboyle~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1901-1903~&collection_id=1408347) with a possible late marriage in 1954
which matches the 1911 census of 5 children alive and in total
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Facts
- George Burns TAYLOR was born in 1885
- He was in Boyle on the 1901 census aged 15
- He was in Canada in 1915 when he joined the 16th Canadian Infantry
- Between 1901 and 1915 he was in the Connaught Rangers and 16th Alta Dragoons,
being in another Canadian Force places him in Canada for longer
- He was already a widower in 1915
- His next of kin named as his daughter Alice TAYLOR
Assumptions
- There should be an army record from the Connaught Rangers and 16th Alta Dragoons
- There should be a death record, most probably in Canada,
for a Lily TAYLOR and derivatives i.e Lilian, Elizabeth etc.
- There should be a birth record for Alice, who can be no more than 10 years old approx. based on his age of 30;
so her birth should be between 1905 and 1915
- The marriage could have taken place anywhere unfortunately
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Old pictures of Boyle (http://www.askaboutireland.ie/reading-room/sports-recreation/postcards-of-ireland/greetings-from-roscommon/postcards-of-boyle/streets/index.xml)
In the one dated 1960 Taylors is the very dark fronted three storey building on the right, second building down as it were; Dick McGee owned it at that point
Sarah TAYLOR emigrated to the USA in 1912 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JJRR-WYC) on the Lusitania
Sarah was travelling to her cousin Mrs Davies/Davis in N.J. see www.ellisisland.org
Possible death of George TAYLOR Snr (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FTK4-DYW)
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came across this blog (http://paulmalpas.com/) today which may be of interest if you have not yet seen; section 12 is about the Taylor Brothers
George Burns Taylor is referred to as John Burns Taylor
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Many thanks for all the info, and clarifying it. I didn't want to fill up my initial post, as 'sometimes more is less'. ;D
The blog error is reasonable, as maybe confused slightly with brother John Shera Taylor.
With William Glover Taylor dying of the flu, he doesn't appear in the WW1 War dead, or have I missed something again. :o ;D
My friend remembers sitting in that little jewelers shop as kid in the early 1960's, and those postcards will surely bring back memories.
Thanks again for all your continued interest and knowledge.
Steve. :)
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I don't know where the information for the blog came from for their Remembrance Day Memorial and the man may have access to more
It information seems very specific about the two brothers and he may be a source of more information for you
I grew up close to Boyle, was back a few years ago and fascinated that much hadn't changed
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I don't know where the information for the blog came from for their Remembrance Day Memorial and the man may have access to more
It information seems very specific about the two brothers and he may be a source of more information for you
I grew up close to Boyle, was back a few years ago and fascinated that much hadn't changed
The blog is close enough for Remembrance in my eyes. ;)
Your families might know each other, if you lived that close. ;D
I'll have to look for a death for William Glover Taylor........somewhere.!!
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I sometimes find going back can help you go forward!
Sarah Jane SHERA seems to have been one of at least four children of
John SHERA and Sarah ? (possibly CRAWFORD)
She was baptised in Drumshambo & Boyle Methodist Church on 13 May 1860
She had three brothers
William Glover SHERA 1853 (some options in Alberta) (https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22william%20glover%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ashera~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aboyle~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1850-1855~);
Caleb Hugh SHERA 1855 (some options in Ontario) (https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22caleb%20hugh%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ashera~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aboyle~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1853-1857~);
and Glover Crawford SHERA 1856-1887
These uncles in Canada would have given William and George good reason to travel there
There is also a pssibility that she had a sister Eleanor in the 1840s that married a John IRWIN
All would require confirmation as although SHERA is an unusual name there were a few families in the Boyle area
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John Shera married Sarah Crawford.....unknown as yet. Sarah was the daughter of Billy Crawford(of Drumherriff) and Mary(nee. Leard, b 23 Jan 1798)
There are a lot of this side of the family that went to the USA & Canada.
John Shera(c1815) was buried, 22 Oct 1883 in Boyle, and Sarah(c1821), was buried 7 Apr 1888, in Boyle.
My friend has a large amount of this side of the family tree, but very few places and dates......just names.
Mostly from Glover Leard and Miss Roycroft.c1750's From Basic initial research, Castlebar & Carrick on Shannon seems to figure in the equation.
But my friend is keen to trace her Taylor roots at present. ;D
Steve. :)
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Will keep an eye out as I'm searching and let you know if I find anything
For myself I would contact the owner of the blog and find the source of his information of the two brothers dying within a few days and the family receiving a telegram/letter; it is very specific in small details that you wouldn't expect
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Ok....thanks a million. ;)
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Contacted the Blog owner, and his info came from the person I'm helping. ;D ;D
Steve. :)
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That's a riot! It did read as if it came from a relative rather than a formal source, shame it wasn't a different relative though!
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Albert Edward Taylor. 1902. Boyle. (not confirmed, need b/cert).
Living in Bridge Street, Boyle in 1901 & 1911.
UPDATED & EDITED.
Hi Steve,
I have an Albert Edward Taylor on my family tree who married Margaret Mary Bushell (my 1st cousin 2 x removed) in 1954. I don't have any documents to verify this information apart from the fact that they were both on the Irish Civil registration Index Vol 3 Page 143 (familysearch website). They appear to have had no children, perhaps as Margaret was 49 when they married. I have a copy of the death announcement of Margaret Bushell (nee Taylor) from the Irish Times, a transcript of which is below:
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"The Irish Times
Monday, March 11, 1996
TAYLOR (nee Bushell) (Carrick Road, Boyle, Co. Roscommon) - March 9, 1996 at the Plunkett Home, Boyle, Margaret Mary (Dot), wife of the late Albert (Bertie) Taylor, deeply regretted by her loving nieces, nephews, sister-in-law, relatives and friends. R.I.P. Removal took place to St.Joseph's Church, Boyle, on Sunday evening. Funeral today (Monday) following 11 o'clock Mass to Kileelan Cemetary."
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Margaret had one sibling, a twin brother William Hubert Bushell, who had died in 1972, leaving his wife Mary Christina (nee Watson), 3 daughters and 2 sons. I don't ahev any other information about the Taylors, other than the possible likelihood that this is 'your' Albert Edward Taylor.
I hope you find this of interest, or even useful. Good luck with your family tree research.
Clare
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Thanks Clare. :)
I'll check back with lady I'm helping, and see if she knows more.
Thanks again.
Steve. :)
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John Shera married Sarah Crawford.....unknown as yet. Sarah was the daughter of Billy Crawford(of Drumherriff) and Mary(nee. Leard, b 23 Jan 1798)
There are a lot of this side of the family that went to the USA & Canada.
John Shera(c1815) was buried, 22 Oct 1883 in Boyle, and Sarah(c1821), was buried 7 Apr 1888, in Boyle.
My friend has a large amount of this side of the family tree, but very few places and dates......just names.
Hi,
William Crawford (Drumherriff) Father of Sarah was my GGG Grandfather. His wifes name and date of birth is new information for me. The only record I could find of her was a newspaper report of her death(as Mrs. Crawford)
Would it be possible to find out where the information of her name and dob came from? There may be more information that could be shared.
Many thanks
Randal.
Steve. :)
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Found your post on the web during a William Crawford of Drumherriff web search ,I think he also is our 2nd Great grandfather we our from his daughter Catherine,and I was trying to find her brothers to see if some pictures I have may be them.
Regards
Heather
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Found your post on the web during a William Crawford of Drumherriff web search ,I think he also is our 2nd Great grandfather we our from his daughter Catherine,and I was trying to find her brothers to see if some pictures I have may be them.
Regards
Heather
Apologies to you Heather & Ferg28.
I was offline for over 2 years, and this thread was forgotten about.
Most of the information comes from Glover Leard b1718 ish, from his hand written family tree, and other documents. Some without dates and places, just names and maiden names.
It took a good while to work most of it back.
Even now I am tweaking it, in the last few days.....especially with Leitrim connections, as I had Boyle for a good few of them.
There are no photo's to be seen, but if I contact the lady who I have helped put this tree together with, I'll ask what else she may have. (There's always something she has 'tucked away'). ;D
Steve. :)
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I have taken some pics for Boyle
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/roscommon/photos/tombstones/boyle-coi/index.html
taylor/shera http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/roscommon/photos/tombstones/boyle-coi/target64.html
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Taylors and Crawfords in Toomna..
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/roscommon/photos/tombstones/roscommon-toomna/index.html
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Shera/Laird
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/leitrim/photos/tombstones/leitrim-drumshanbo/target22.html
crawfords too...
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/leitrim/photos/tombstones/leitrim-drumshanbo/index.html
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Many, many thanks Hallmark..........I think. ;D
I'll try and trace these back to William 'Billy' Crawford & Sarah Leard/Laird. I will have to get the William Crawford death cert, in 1872 Carrick on Shannon reg. dist. as a start.
Thanks again.
Steve. :)
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Many, many thanks Hallmark..........I think. ;D
I'll try and trace these back to William 'Billy' Crawford & Sarah Leard/Laird. I will have to get the William Crawford death cert, in 1872 Carrick on Shannon reg. dist. as a start.
Thanks again.
Steve. :)
Should be online
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Many, many thanks Hallmark..........I think. ;D
I'll try and trace these back to William 'Billy' Crawford & Sarah Leard/Laird. I will have to get the William Crawford death cert, in 1872 Carrick on Shannon reg. dist. as a start.
Thanks again.
Steve. :)
Should be online
Do you mean online as a freebie, or pay per view. ???
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freebie
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=755569.0
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freebie
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=755569.0
Searched for his burial, but not found, just the registration. :(
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It is a Registration site!!
It should get you an address!
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Have just had a quick read though all of this and can confirm some facts if anyone at moment still interested
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Forgot I put a post on here ages ago would like to thank you for the gravestone photos think I must be working with a similar tree as it has Billy Crawford plus the Leards Sheras Taylors
Regards
Heather