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Title: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: bucksboy on Wednesday 14 November 12 13:30 GMT (UK)
Hi folks.

George Taylor (c1857.Boyle) Occ.Jeweller/watchmaker,  married Sarah Jane Shera(c1860.Boyle).  19 Aug 1880 @ The Parish Church, Boyle.

William Taylor, father, occ Jeweller,  John Shera, father, Occ. Farmer.

William Taylor  c1818, died 12 Nov 1877, aged 59, and was buried in Boyle parish church.   Was married at the time of death, and registered by his son George Taylor.

Children to George & Sarah Jane Taylor.

William Glover Taylor.  1883. Boyle.  (Ended up in Saskachewan, with wife Lulu(nee.Carscadden) and son Glover.)
John Shera Taylor. 1884.  Boyle.
George Burns Taylor. 1886. Boyle.  Died  - 1 Oct 1918.  WW1.   Cambrai memorial.  (Canadian Infantry).
Sarah Ann/Amy Taylor. 1888. Boyle.
Albert Edward Taylor. 1902. Boyle.  (not confirmed, need b/cert).

Living in Bridge Street, Boyle in 1901 & 1911.       The shop still exists today, but under the MaGee family, who I believe was apprenticed to the Taylor's.

George Burns Taylor, apparently married a Lilly White, and had a daughter Alice.(named on Georges attestation papers).  George was widowed at this time.))

Anyone out there with any links to this specific family, or further info on the marriage & daughter of George Burns Taylor.


Thanks.


Steve. :)


PS.  I am asking on behalf of a friend who is a direct descendant of this branch of Taylors.

UPDATED & EDITED.
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: myluck! on Wednesday 14 November 12 14:39 GMT (UK)
The following are links to online data as you have described to help focus people
Also name and details of 5th child as per census

Family 1901 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Roscommon/Boyle_Urban/Bridge_Street/1656834/)

William on 1901 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Sligo/Sligo_West_Urban/O_Connell_Street/1685691/)

Family on 1911 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Roscommon/Boyle_Urban/Bridge_Street/778917/)

No sign of William in 1911

Taylor Births 1881-1904 (https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Ataylor~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aboyle~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1881-1904~&collection_id=1408347)
includes the following civil records:

William Glover Taylor BOYLE 1882 Apr-Jun Volume 4 Page 87 (https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22william%20glover%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ataylor~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aboyle~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1882-1882&collection_id=1408347) possible death in 1957

John Shera Taylor BOYLE 1884 Jan-Mar Volume 4 Page 83 (https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22john%20shera%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ataylor~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aboyle~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1884-1884&collection_id=1408347) with possible death in 1953

George Burns Taylor BOYLE 1885 Jul-Sep Volume 4 Page 82 (https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22george%20burns%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ataylor~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aboyle~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1885-1885&collection_id=1408347)

Sarah Taylor BOYLE 1887 Jul-Sep Volume 4 Page 82 (https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22george%20burns%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ataylor~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aboyle~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1885-1885&collection_id=1408347)

Albert Edward Taylor BOYLE 1902 Jul-Sep Volume 4 Page 73 (https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22albert%20edward%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ataylor~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aboyle~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1901-1903~&collection_id=1408347) with a possible late marriage in 1954

which matches the 1911 census of 5 children alive and in total
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: myluck! on Wednesday 14 November 12 15:37 GMT (UK)
Facts
- George Burns TAYLOR was born in 1885
- He was in Boyle on the 1901 census aged 15
- He was in Canada in 1915 when he joined the 16th Canadian Infantry
- Between 1901 and 1915 he was in the Connaught Rangers and 16th Alta Dragoons,
  being in another Canadian Force places him in Canada for longer
- He was already a widower in 1915
- His next of kin named as his daughter Alice TAYLOR

Assumptions
- There should be an army record from the Connaught Rangers and 16th Alta Dragoons
- There should be a death record, most probably in Canada,
  for a Lily TAYLOR and derivatives i.e Lilian, Elizabeth etc.
- There should be a birth record for Alice, who can be no more than 10 years old approx. based on his age of 30;
  so her birth should be between 1905 and 1915
- The marriage could have taken place anywhere unfortunately

Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: myluck! on Wednesday 14 November 12 16:14 GMT (UK)
Old pictures of Boyle (http://www.askaboutireland.ie/reading-room/sports-recreation/postcards-of-ireland/greetings-from-roscommon/postcards-of-boyle/streets/index.xml)
In the one dated 1960 Taylors is the very dark fronted three storey building on the right, second building down as it were; Dick McGee owned it at that point

Sarah TAYLOR emigrated to the USA in 1912 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JJRR-WYC) on the Lusitania
Sarah was travelling to her cousin Mrs Davies/Davis in N.J. see www.ellisisland.org

Possible death of George TAYLOR Snr (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FTK4-DYW)
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: myluck! on Thursday 15 November 12 11:15 GMT (UK)
came across this blog (http://paulmalpas.com/) today which may be of interest if you have not yet seen; section 12 is about the Taylor Brothers
George Burns Taylor is referred to as John Burns Taylor

Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: bucksboy on Thursday 15 November 12 11:39 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for all the info, and clarifying it.    I didn't want to fill up my initial post, as 'sometimes more is less'. ;D

The blog error is reasonable, as maybe confused slightly with brother John Shera Taylor.

With William Glover Taylor dying of the flu, he doesn't appear in the WW1 War dead, or have I missed something again. :o ;D

My friend remembers sitting in that little jewelers shop as kid in the early 1960's, and those postcards will surely bring back memories.

Thanks again for all your continued interest and knowledge.


Steve. :)
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: myluck! on Thursday 15 November 12 11:49 GMT (UK)
I don't know where the information for the blog came from for their Remembrance Day Memorial and the man may have access to more
It information seems very specific about the two brothers and he may be a source of more information for you

I grew up close to Boyle, was back a few years ago and fascinated that much hadn't changed
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: bucksboy on Thursday 15 November 12 11:57 GMT (UK)
I don't know where the information for the blog came from for their Remembrance Day Memorial and the man may have access to more
It information seems very specific about the two brothers and he may be a source of more information for you

I grew up close to Boyle, was back a few years ago and fascinated that much hadn't changed

The blog is close enough for Remembrance in my eyes. ;)

Your families might know each other, if you lived that close. ;D

I'll have to look for a death for William Glover Taylor........somewhere.!!
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: myluck! on Thursday 15 November 12 12:51 GMT (UK)
I sometimes find going back can help you go forward!

Sarah Jane SHERA seems to have been one of at least four children of
John SHERA and Sarah ? (possibly CRAWFORD)
She was baptised in Drumshambo & Boyle Methodist Church on 13 May 1860
She had three brothers
William Glover SHERA 1853 (some options in Alberta) (https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22william%20glover%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ashera~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aboyle~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1850-1855~);
Caleb Hugh SHERA 1855 (some options in Ontario) (https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22caleb%20hugh%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ashera~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aboyle~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1853-1857~);
and Glover Crawford SHERA 1856-1887

These uncles in Canada would have given William and George good reason to travel there

There is also a pssibility that she had a sister Eleanor in the 1840s that married a John IRWIN
All would require confirmation as although SHERA is an unusual name there were a few families in the Boyle area
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: bucksboy on Thursday 15 November 12 13:12 GMT (UK)
John Shera married Sarah Crawford.....unknown as yet.     Sarah was the daughter of Billy Crawford(of Drumherriff) and Mary(nee. Leard, b 23 Jan 1798)

There are a lot of this side of the family that went to the USA & Canada.

John Shera(c1815) was buried, 22 Oct 1883 in Boyle, and Sarah(c1821), was buried 7 Apr 1888, in Boyle.

My friend has a large amount of this side of the family tree, but very few places and dates......just names.

Mostly from Glover Leard and Miss Roycroft.c1750's   From Basic initial research, Castlebar & Carrick on Shannon seems to figure in the equation.

But my friend is keen to trace her Taylor roots at present. ;D


Steve. :)
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: myluck! on Thursday 15 November 12 13:25 GMT (UK)
Will keep an eye out as I'm searching and let you know if I find anything

For myself I would contact the owner of the blog and find the source of his information of the two brothers dying within a few days and the family receiving a telegram/letter; it is very specific in small details that you wouldn't expect
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: bucksboy on Thursday 15 November 12 13:28 GMT (UK)
Ok....thanks a million. ;)
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: bucksboy on Thursday 15 November 12 18:39 GMT (UK)
Contacted the Blog owner, and his info came from the person I'm helping. ;D ;D

Steve. :)
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: myluck! on Thursday 15 November 12 18:46 GMT (UK)
That's a riot! It did read as if it came from a relative rather than a formal source, shame it wasn't a different relative though!
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: Gillman69 on Monday 27 May 13 14:23 BST (UK)

Albert Edward Taylor. 1902. Boyle.  (not confirmed, need b/cert).

Living in Bridge Street, Boyle in 1901 & 1911.     

UPDATED & EDITED.

Hi Steve,

I have an Albert Edward Taylor on my family tree who married Margaret Mary Bushell (my 1st cousin 2 x removed) in 1954. I don't have any documents to verify this information apart from the fact that they were both on the Irish Civil registration Index Vol 3 Page 143 (familysearch website). They appear to have had no children, perhaps as Margaret was 49 when they married. I have a copy of the death announcement of Margaret Bushell (nee Taylor) from the Irish Times, a transcript of which is below:

...................................

"The Irish Times

Monday, March 11, 1996

TAYLOR (nee Bushell) (Carrick Road, Boyle, Co. Roscommon) - March 9, 1996 at the Plunkett Home, Boyle, Margaret Mary (Dot), wife of the late Albert (Bertie) Taylor, deeply regretted by her loving nieces, nephews, sister-in-law, relatives and friends. R.I.P. Removal took place to St.Joseph's Church, Boyle, on Sunday evening. Funeral today (Monday) following 11 o'clock Mass to Kileelan Cemetary."

..................................

Margaret had one sibling, a twin brother William Hubert Bushell, who had died in 1972, leaving his wife Mary Christina (nee Watson), 3 daughters and 2 sons. I don't ahev any other information about the Taylors, other than the possible likelihood that this is 'your' Albert Edward Taylor.

I hope you find this of interest, or even useful. Good luck with your family tree research.

Clare

Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: bucksboy on Tuesday 28 May 13 12:52 BST (UK)
Thanks Clare. :)

I'll check back with lady I'm helping, and see if she knows more.

Thanks again.

Steve. :)
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: Ferg28 on Wednesday 30 April 14 21:02 BST (UK)
John Shera married Sarah Crawford.....unknown as yet.     Sarah was the daughter of Billy Crawford(of Drumherriff) and Mary(nee. Leard, b 23 Jan 1798)

There are a lot of this side of the family that went to the USA & Canada.

John Shera(c1815) was buried, 22 Oct 1883 in Boyle, and Sarah(c1821), was buried 7 Apr 1888, in Boyle.

My friend has a large amount of this side of the family tree, but very few places and dates......just names.
Hi,
William Crawford (Drumherriff) Father of Sarah was my GGG Grandfather. His wifes name and date of birth is new information for me. The only record I could find of her was a newspaper report of her death(as Mrs. Crawford)
Would it be possible to find out where the information of her name and dob came from? There may be more information that could be shared.
Many thanks
Randal.



Steve. :)
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: HetFlo on Saturday 21 March 15 11:25 GMT (UK)
Found your post on the web during a William Crawford of Drumherriff web search ,I think he also is our 2nd Great grandfather we our from his daughter Catherine,and I was trying to find her brothers to see if some pictures I have may be them.
Regards
Heather
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: bucksboy on Friday 06 January 17 22:30 GMT (UK)
Found your post on the web during a William Crawford of Drumherriff web search ,I think he also is our 2nd Great grandfather we our from his daughter Catherine,and I was trying to find her brothers to see if some pictures I have may be them.
Regards
Heather

Apologies to you Heather & Ferg28.

I was offline for over 2 years, and this thread was forgotten about.

Most of the information comes from Glover Leard b1718 ish, from his hand written family tree, and other documents.  Some without dates and places, just names and maiden names.
It took a good while to work most of it back.

Even now I am tweaking it, in the last few days.....especially with Leitrim connections, as I had Boyle for a good few of them.

There are no photo's to be seen, but if I contact the lady who I have helped put this tree together with, I'll ask what else she may have. (There's always something she has 'tucked away'). ;D

Steve. :)
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: hallmark on Friday 06 January 17 22:52 GMT (UK)
I have taken some pics for Boyle

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/roscommon/photos/tombstones/boyle-coi/index.html 

taylor/shera  http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/roscommon/photos/tombstones/boyle-coi/target64.html
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: hallmark on Friday 06 January 17 22:56 GMT (UK)
Taylors and Crawfords in Toomna..

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/roscommon/photos/tombstones/roscommon-toomna/index.html
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: hallmark on Friday 06 January 17 23:02 GMT (UK)
Shera/Laird

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/leitrim/photos/tombstones/leitrim-drumshanbo/target22.html

crawfords too... 

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/leitrim/photos/tombstones/leitrim-drumshanbo/index.html
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: bucksboy on Friday 06 January 17 23:42 GMT (UK)
Many, many thanks Hallmark..........I think. ;D

I'll try and trace these back to William 'Billy' Crawford & Sarah Leard/Laird. I will have to get the William Crawford death cert, in 1872 Carrick on Shannon reg. dist.  as a start.

Thanks again.

Steve. :)
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 07 January 17 01:03 GMT (UK)
Many, many thanks Hallmark..........I think. ;D

I'll try and trace these back to William 'Billy' Crawford & Sarah Leard/Laird. I will have to get the William Crawford death cert, in 1872 Carrick on Shannon reg. dist.  as a start.

Thanks again.

Steve. :)

Should be online
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: bucksboy on Saturday 07 January 17 14:50 GMT (UK)
Many, many thanks Hallmark..........I think. ;D

I'll try and trace these back to William 'Billy' Crawford & Sarah Leard/Laird. I will have to get the William Crawford death cert, in 1872 Carrick on Shannon reg. dist.  as a start.

Thanks again.

Steve. :)

Should be online

Do you mean online as a freebie, or pay per view. ???
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 07 January 17 15:10 GMT (UK)
freebie

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=755569.0
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: bucksboy on Saturday 07 January 17 15:34 GMT (UK)
freebie

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=755569.0

Searched for his burial, but not found, just the registration. :(
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 07 January 17 16:21 GMT (UK)
It is a Registration site!!

It should get you an address!
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: HetFlo on Thursday 29 June 17 19:48 BST (UK)
Have just had a quick read though all of this and can confirm some facts if anyone at moment still interested
Title: Re: Taylors of Boyle, Roscommon.
Post by: HetFlo on Thursday 29 June 17 20:04 BST (UK)
Forgot I put a post on here ages ago would like to thank you for the gravestone photos think I must be working with a similar tree as it has Billy Crawford plus the Leards Sheras Taylors
Regards
Heather