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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Argyllshire => Topic started by: nkbauer on Wednesday 14 November 12 20:35 GMT (UK)
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I have searched for their marriage for several years. On familysearch.org I found baptisms for their children in Lismore: Hugh 20 Oct 1805, Christie 18 Feb 1808, Elizabeth 30 Jul 1817, Duncan 5 Mar 1820 and Donald 9 Jun 1822. They were on the 1841 census in Duror. Can anyone help me find their marriage?
Kind regards, Nan
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Hi Nan,
The closest record on SP is:
27/04/1800 MCCORQUODALE CHRISTIE DONALD MCKELLACH/FR354 (FR354) F LISMORE APPIN AND DUROR /ARGYLL 525/00 0010 0355
Everything seems to fit except Donald's recorded surname?
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That looks very likely, Br1gau :)
I tend to go all glassy eyed on the issue of Clans and septs and the like, however, I think McKelloch may be a sept of M(a)cDonald (as was MacIsaac in my line). See www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp/s.MacDonald/qx/clanbadge_details.htm
My MacIsaacs went by the surname of MacDonald by the mid 1800s.
Monica
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Thanks Monica, that's very new to me so well worth bearing in mind when I'm next looking for McDonalds ;) I thought McKellach may just be a mis-transcription, but certainly there is no other 'ch mccorquodale' (using soundtex), spouse 'donald' coming up anywhere in Scotland between 1785 and 1805.
brigau
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Thank you Br1gau and Monica. I did see a marriage with Donald McKellach on SP but disregarded it. Monica it was interesting to read about the septs. I had heard of them before but didn't realize that some individuals changed their sept surname to the clan surname. Without the help of you two I would never have found the marriage of Chsitie and Donald.
Kind regards, Nan
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That looks very likely, Br1gau :)
I tend to go all glassy eyed on the issue of Clans and septs and the like, however, I think McKelloch may be a sept of M(a)cDonald (as was MacIsaac in my line). See www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp/s.MacDonald/qx/clanbadge_details.htm
My MacIsaacs went by the surname of MacDonald by the mid 1800s.
Monica
Monica, how did you know that your MacIsaacs had changed their name to MacDonald? Is there a list/source anywhere that has a record of these name changes?
Nan
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Not really Nan. My MacIsaac family was from the Moidart area. Roman Catholic so I pick up on records really from the first census in 1841 and early statutory registrations. In these, for this period of around 15-20 years, they showed as for example, 'Ronald MacIsaac or MacDonald', written this way. By the early 1860s onwards, they went only by the name of MacDonald.
Monica
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An example. This is the death entry at the grand age of 93 of Ranald MacDonald, my 5xgrandfather (no mention by now of the MacIsaac surname) in 1872. He shows as MacDonald by now as does his wife who predeceased him, Ann MacDonald.....except I couldn't find any trace of an Ann MacDonald for Ranald's wife. All their children's deaths showed mother as Ann MCVARISH. Yep, this was also a name change around that same period of the mid 1850s. The surname McVarish became fairly rare around this period and pretty much died out from what I found. Guess most of them became MacDonalds in the generations that followed!
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This one is a little later than I mentally remembered, from 1888, the death of my 4xgrandmother, with the reference to husband Angus as MacDonald or MacIsaac. I'll stop there! Hopefully, the two examples give you an idea of what I meant.
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OK, one more (now getting like holiday photos!). The one below from 1883 makes me laugh now as this came up in my very early days of researching my family and I was so confused by certs like this one ::) Promise now really, my last!
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Thanks so much Monica. The name change certainly is clear in the records you shared. My relatives would have been alive in the same time period. This couple likely died in the 1840's or 1850's. I haven't found Donald McDonald's death certificate on SP yet.......just possibilities. When I hit a brickwall be it big or small I work on a different branch of the family tree and then come back to it. I have a possible marriage now and will start the hunt for Donald and Christie's deaths. I'll let you know if I find their deaths. I really appreciate your help.
Kind regards, Nan
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Nan do I know you from somewhere ? ???
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Hi Sue,
We exchanged some information on the Clark family. How are you? Are you still researching your Clark family? I have been working on other branches lately. I made contact with a second cousin on my mother's father's side. We have been exchanging information for some time and will meet for the first time next week. He's coming up to Canada from the USA. Exciting, isn't it?
Regards, Nan
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Hello nan
yep still researching the Clark clan and yes looking at those you are researching. The McGregor's interested me. One researcher had us related to Robert ROB ROY McGregor, but confusedly had Ann who was married to John Clark senior also married to two other men. It is so frustrating and the only way I am going to do any of this is when I retire. I will need to travel up to Scotland and find the actual records. I find all the family including the Mccorquodale's so interesting and would love like you to find as much information on them as possible. I would love to find living family members up in Scotland. :)
Sue xx
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Hi Sue,
I'm sure I told you that I have copies of the death certificates for John Clark 1806-1870, his wife Catherine McDonald 1812-1895, and his mother Ann McGregor 1778-1858. I couldn't find John Sr's death but he was not in the 1861 census. If you would like copies of these, please send me your email address via a pm. I think I sent you some records before but am not positive.
I have no further information on Ann McGregor or Catherine McDonald's parents.
Nan
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Oh yes please nan
no i haven't ever had any copies of certs from you I would love them and really appreciate copies. where can i find your email address please.
sue x
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Ann since we last wrote my email address changed from hotmail to outlook, I had no choice in the matter it just changed over night. i have never been able to get my old emails back. are you on genes or ancestry. I dont mind putting my email address here.
Sue x