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Title: Lookup request-1861/71-Elizabeth Grubb
Post by: Al in Vane on Tuesday 31 May 05 11:39 BST (UK)
Last heard of in Hellidon, Northants, when she gave birth to a baseborn son, Thomas Francis, in 1852. Elizabeth Grubb nee Aires, widow of James, was born in 1814 in Fenny Compton. She gave birth to six children by James, one or two of them later lived in Banbury and Fenny Compton.
I have not found a burial in Hellidon and was hoping that somebody may be able to find her somewhere in 1861 when she would be aged approx. 47, or 1871 for me. Any information would be greatly appreciated.  Al
Title: Re: Lookup request-1861/71-Elizabeth Grubb
Post by: PaulineJ on Tuesday 31 May 05 11:53 BST (UK)

Why are we not looking for the kids in 1861/1871, (with whom she is likely to be?)

Pauline
Title: Re: Lookup request-1861/71-Elizabeth Grubb
Post by: Al in Vane on Tuesday 31 May 05 12:05 BST (UK)
You are right Pauline so here they are with approx. ages in 1861-
William 25, John 22, Oliver19, Ann17, Elizabeth 15, Edward14.
Banbury and Fenny Compton seemed to play a big part later on.

Cheers, Al
Title: Re: Lookup request-1861/71-Elizabeth Grubb
Post by: PaulineJ on Tuesday 31 May 05 19:29 BST (UK)
William:
RG9/915  Banbury  ,Swalcliffe  Fol   45 
Parish: Horley  Oxfordshire 
William Grubb abt 1836  Hellidon, Northamptonshire Head  COAL DEALER
Hannah Grubb abt 1828  Nerthop, Oxfordshire, England Wife   
Emily Elizabeth Webster abt 1851  Nerthop Daughter-in-law   
Sarah Ann Webster abt 1854  Nerthop Daughter-in-law 

John:
RG9/2242 Southam  Fol   28 
Parish: Bishops Itchington  Warwickshire
John Grubb 23y, abt 1838  Fenny Compton, Warwickshire Lodger   BRICK MAKER

Oliver:
RG9/920 Banbury  Fol   7 
Parish of   Neithrop  Oxfordshire 
Oliver Grubb 19y, (abt 1842)  Hellidon, Northamptonshire Head Harness Maker

Ann:
RG9/918  Banbury  Fol  41 
Parish: Banbury  Oxfordshire 
Ann Grubb 18y, abt 1843  Helendon, Northamptonshire House Servant 

Elizabeth:
RG9/921 Brackley  Fol  36 
Parish: Brackley St Peter  Northamptonshire
Elizabeth Grubb 17y, abt 1844  Northants, Elledon Servant  (to Huston Family)

RG9/2241 Southam  Fol    56 

John Agers/Ayres  48y, abt 1818  Clayton, Oxfordshire.  UNWED, Lodger  BRICKMAKER
Edward Grubb  (Agers/Ayers? - Do. Mark) 14y, abt 1847  Heliden, Northamptonshire Lodger    BRICKMAKER

and last line of the census page says:

John Grubb, Lodger  left before the 9th April
                               (made it all the way to Piece 2242 Folio 28 by the looks of it)

So apart from a learning exercise in how to spell Hellidon, we haven't learned much.

Pauline

Do you know if Thomas Francis (b1852) survived to adulthood?
Title: Re: Lookup request-1861/71-Elizabeth Grubb
Post by: Al in Vane on Tuesday 31 May 05 20:11 BST (UK)
On the contrary Pauline I have learned plenty from your lookup. The results suggest to me that probably the mother had died as the family is scattered about, or had possibly remarried.
Your last inscription about John having left was from Fenny Compton Wharf so he probably hopped onto a passing barge and landed in Bishops Itchington, but I hadn't picked him up there!

I don't believe Thomas Francis Grubb survived for long but I could be wrong. I certainly havn't picked him up.

Although we still havn't found Elizabeth you have given much valuable information and I fully appreciate the time and effort you have put in and thank you very much-Al
Title: Re: Lookup request-1861/71-Elizabeth Grubb
Post by: PaulineJ on Tuesday 31 May 05 20:14 BST (UK)

Big raspberries to anyone who says that you don't learn anything by looking at family members eh?

My Pleasure.

Pauline
Title: Re: Lookup request-1861/71-Elizabeth Grubb
Post by: merlinsmagic on Wednesday 17 January 18 16:45 GMT (UK)
Hi I’m related to the Grubb family Fenny Compton
Title: Re: Lookup request-1861/71-Elizabeth Grubb
Post by: Al in Vane on Wednesday 17 January 18 17:32 GMT (UK)
Hello,
       How far have you gone back?
Title: Re: Lookup request-1861/71-Elizabeth Grubb
Post by: merlinsmagic on Wednesday 17 January 18 17:54 GMT (UK)
Hi about 1800 there are quite a few buried at Fenny Compton churchyard I think there are a couple in wormleighton and also I believe some at Walthamcote
Title: Re: Lookup request-1861/71-Elizabeth Grubb
Post by: merlinsmagic on Wednesday 17 January 18 17:59 GMT (UK)
My great grandad was William Grubb a lot of them lived In Fenny Compton and surrounding areas some of them were wheelrights.
Title: Re: Lookup request-1861/71-Elizabeth Grubb
Post by: Al in Vane on Wednesday 17 January 18 19:48 GMT (UK)
I have been to the village and seen the cottage also took a photo of the gravestone. I trust you have been into the church and seen the notice on the bier on which it relates that the straps were made and donated by Oliver Grubb and two of his sons subscribed to them?
Hellidon, where the family came from after moving from Daventry is worth going to, William Grubb the Butcher there married Ann Aris the Millers daughter and your line came from them.
I have a document from 1814 with William's signature on it and also copies of his will.
I have traced back to the 1500s, my DNA suggests we were originally Danish Vikings who came and settled in Northamptonshire in the 1100s.
Title: Re: Lookup request-1861/71-Elizabeth Grubb
Post by: merlinsmagic on Wednesday 17 January 18 19:56 GMT (UK)
Wow thanks for that information that’s really interesting , I didn’t know about the straps in the church so that’s great I will have a look through my notes and message you back thankyou regards Paula.
Title: Re: Lookup request-1861/71-Elizabeth Grubb
Post by: Al in Vane on Wednesday 17 January 18 20:02 GMT (UK)
There are quite a lot of the family here in Nuneaton who came down two separate lines from Hellidon.
You can always get hold of me on the Nuneaton Griff FC website, Rod
Title: Re: Lookup request-1861/71-Elizabeth Grubb
Post by: merlinsmagic on Wednesday 17 January 18 20:07 GMT (UK)
Ok great I have in my notes William Grubb 1801-1880 he was married to Elizabeth Kellett 1800-1879 maybe this is the Elizabeth you might be looking for?
Title: Re: Lookup request-1861/71-Elizabeth Grubb
Post by: Al in Vane on Wednesday 17 January 18 20:23 GMT (UK)
No, the one I am looking for was an Elizabeth Aires of Fenny Compton, born 1814, who married James Grubb at Hellidon in 1935. James died in 1847 aged just 44 and in 1852 Elizabeth gave birth to a base born child named Thomas Francis. I have found no further trace of Elizabeth.
They left six children, some lived in Neithrop in Banbury including Oliver who was later a wheelwright in Fenny Compton. He took over the house (still Extant) of his brother William when the latter moved to Leicester.
There were other Grubbs in FC earlier but the wheelwright line is from my family in Hellidon.