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Title: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: PaulOBrien on Thursday 22 November 12 14:04 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I am trying to trace the grave location of Henry O'Brien (RC) B. 11/9/1898 d. 30/5/1922. According to family memory his grave, which they used to visit, was in 'Lurgan' (or Lurga) Roscommon - anyone in the family who would have visited are unfortunately deceased now..would anyone know locations of graveyards in that area or advise on approach?...

Looking at maps it may well be Lurga and not Lurgan - as in the 1911 census the family were living around Drumboylan...

Many Thanks
Paul 
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 22 November 12 14:08 GMT (UK)
several townlands named Lurgan in Co. Roscommon - one in Kilronan civil parish, one in Shankill civil parish the the third in Kilcolagh.

The first and third townlands are in Boyle Poor Law Union, so likely near that town, the second near Strokestown.

I'll see if I can locate these townlands on historic maps, c1890s and c1837, these usually show old graveyards.


S.
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 22 November 12 14:55 GMT (UK)
found these three Lurgan townlands... but no graveyards in any of them that I can see, on either the 1830s or c1890s OSI map - it could be that a later cemetery was created at one of these locations.

  Lurgan townland, Kilronan (http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,593584,814475,6,7)
 
  Lurgan townland, Kilcolagh (http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,576156,792686,6,7)

  Lurgan townland, Shankill (http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,587102,786036,6,7)




Shane 

 
 


Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 22 November 12 15:11 GMT (UK)
The townland of Lurga is in Tumna civil parish, in the Poor Law Union of Carrick on Shannon. There's also a townland named Lurgaboy, which is in the civil parish of Kilronan.


Shane
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 22 November 12 15:32 GMT (UK)
here is the townland of Lurgaboy (http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,591939,812073,6,7), and townland of Lurga (http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,594419,805983,6,7), no sign of a graveyard, but this Lurga is near to the village of Battle Bridge. I think there was a church nearby at Tumna... that cropped up in a previous topic



Shane
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: bee_loud_glade on Tuesday 13 September 16 05:06 BST (UK)
Hey Paul. Are you still checking in here?
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 13 September 16 06:58 BST (UK)
If you click on the person's name you can get details like that..

he was Last Active:    May 10, 2015, 02:33:49 AM
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: PaulOBrien on Tuesday 13 September 16 23:16 BST (UK)
Hi All, Still here...getting back into it again...think I need to go plan a visit. I did contact the local school in Leitrim Town to see if anyone recalled O'Briens living in the area as well as local church...but did not get a reply...the principal of school had replied prior.. and was going to message parents to try help..but am stuck:) There has to be O'Briens buried here, somewhere. Henry O'Brien (senior) died in 1923 according to a note found in my Grandads chest which was only discovered recently (within last few weeks) and I suspect Henry (jnr) who died in 1922 - who had been shot in Belfast - may well be in same grave...
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 14 September 16 00:59 BST (UK)
Ahhhh. So they are related to the Gibbons! Still around.

The McCormicks are still around and there are g/stones for these in Kiltoghert Cemetery! OBriens too!


Dolores in the Parish Office would be the one to ask about records, if any!!
http://www.carrickonshannonparish.com/contacts.htm
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 14 September 16 01:20 BST (UK)
Not in Keadue anyway! That would be next Cemetery after Kiltoghert!

http://irishgraveyards.ie/search.php?yardid=295&area_id=25&lastname=OBrien&firstname=&address=&month=&year=
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 14 September 16 01:33 BST (UK)
Reckon this is Tom, cousin, LeitrimReckon this is Tom, cousin, Leitrim
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 14 September 16 01:34 BST (UK)
Sorry.. in Kiltoghert Cemetery
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: PaulOBrien on Wednesday 14 September 16 01:39 BST (UK)
wow...Ill check with family.....have you any of O'Briens? ..I did get in contact with Carrick On Shannon parish, years ago...maybe I didn't have enough info...I will try again... I was talking to Fr Brian and May was a volunteer at time..... Strangely on O'Briens I also heard from a relative that my great grandparents grave (Patrick and Sarahs) was 'reused' and others buried there...I did not believe that could be possible, however a friend in Newry recently discovered same and a bit of scandal going on regarding that!!
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 14 September 16 01:44 BST (UK)
Only 1...
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 14 September 16 01:52 BST (UK)
Just darkened the note....
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: PaulOBrien on Wednesday 14 September 16 01:54 BST (UK)
Here is last I had on ancestry - Henry Snr I had wrong.....plus my GG Dads death plus more ...really appreciate your help on this:) I may solve ....after all these years:)
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: PaulOBrien on Wednesday 14 September 16 01:57 BST (UK)
and this...
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: PaulOBrien on Wednesday 14 September 16 02:12 BST (UK)
I also checked roots Ireland and went to National Archives in Dublin re Henry O'Brien (senior) and have a scan of original cert..well record from parish....unfortunately no records of Henrys Dad were recorded. I guessed who they may be be on Ancestry, on all info I had...but unsure if correct. Attached is from roots ...which is essentially same info....dead end.
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 14 September 16 08:51 BST (UK)
Well you are very lucky that this RC has some Deaths!  http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0152 might get some early stuff.

http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632389#page/77/mode/1up gets Henry/Mary but no more info. (below 3rd X on Page!)
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: PaulOBrien on Wednesday 14 September 16 13:34 BST (UK)
Yup thats the same scan http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632389#page/77/mode/1up gets Henry/Mary but no more info. (below 3rd X on Page!) which I got in Dublin at archives ....it is great that info is online now...  wish they had put his fathers name on.... I suppose next port of call is back to parish?....O'Briens in Leitrim/Roscommon were scarce as a family name in those counties....albeit there was another (unrelated - I think anyways) Henry O'Brien there....
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 14 September 16 14:23 BST (UK)
You can try

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/leitrim/photos/tombstones/markers.htm and Search.

You get the likes of
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/leitrim/photos/tombstones/leitrim-drumshanbo-rc/target9.html
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 14 September 16 16:59 BST (UK)
OK.. was talking to a cousin of a cousin of your cousins, the O'Brien g/stone at Kiltoghert is 100% part of your lot and are 100% connected to the Gibbons!

So, you now have 3 names/dates to look up for Deaths and see who their father was!

The O'Briens are still living in the old homestead!
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: PaulOBrien on Thursday 15 September 16 00:29 BST (UK)
Wow....! That is amazing...I also have found out, tonight,  that Sarah is buried in aughrim graveyard in hill street Roscommon (she would be my Grandads Sister). See attached.
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 15 September 16 06:10 BST (UK)
I really wouldn't know anything of their history...
Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 17 September 16 10:45 BST (UK)
Knew I had connected someone to the OBriens!!

jsanders!!

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=581168.msg4368531#msg4368531

Same OBriens!!  So jsanders would be related.

Title: Re: Graveyards Lurga/Lurgan, Roscommon
Post by: PaulOBrien on Thursday 24 October 19 19:26 BST (UK)
Hi Hallmark and all, back in family tree saddle after a while away....tis hard figuring out where I was....still trying to trace down that graveyard where my OBriens are in Lurga kinda hoping more info online now:)