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Title: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: Muffin41 on Friday 23 November 12 16:21 GMT (UK)
Edith May WISE was born 23 Nov 1902 in Hamilton Wentworth Ontario.

Frederick George Percival HENNEN was born 11 Sept 1895 in Woking Surrey England.

Frederick emigrated to Canada after 1901 when he was still living in Woking.

Can anyone find their marriage and if they had children for me? Also the year of emigration if possible?

Thank you in advance for looking. :D :D

Muffin41
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: polarbear on Friday 23 November 12 18:50 GMT (UK)
Looks like he served in WW1 and was living in Saskatchewan at the time he enlisted. He seems to still be living in Luseland Sask in 1935 according to the voters list?

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-119.01-e.php?&id_nbr=455017&interval=20&&PHPSESSID=gnpiq1io5327esunrjcnbjmsf6

There is information at this link about how to order his complete military file.

Are you sure they married in Ontario? Assuming I have found the correct birth for Edith, with father Auldridge and mother Adelia (?), this family is living in Saskatchewan in the 1911 and 1916 censuses. I don't see a marriage in the online Ontario records which are currently available to the public up to 1928 only due to privacy laws.

Here is a link to Sask Vital Records which explains what is currently available in that province. In both Sask and Ont, births are protected for 100 years due to privacy laws so you would need to search for newspaper announcements or other resources for births of any children. If it is your Percy in Luseland in 1935, the local library may be able to help with resources related to the time. Unfortunately, his wife is only listed as Mrs Percy Hennen on the voters list.

http://www.isc.ca/VitalStatistics/Genealogy/vsgs_srch.aspx

The 1921 Canada census is due to be released next year and that may be of some help to you.

PB

Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: Muffin41 on Friday 23 November 12 19:16 GMT (UK)
Hi PB,

You are correct with Edith Wise´s parents, her mother´s name was Adelia Bell Brigham before she married.

I am not certain as to where they lived in Canada. You are most probably correct to say that they all lived in Saskatchewan  :)

Muffin41 :)
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: polarbear on Friday 23 November 12 20:01 GMT (UK)
You can search for the Wise family for FREE at this link to the 1911 census. Go to Saskatchewan and put Wise in the surname search. Then look down the list for Auldridge. Click on the page for the transcription, then split view at the top of this page for the original image.

http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/index.jsp

You can also look for the family in the 1901 census on this same website. They would still be in Ontario at that time.

If that is the correct Percy who joined the CEF, did you know he also had a (presumed) brother in Canada? Here is his attestation to the CEF.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-119.01-e.php?&id_nbr=455015&interval=20&&PHPSESSID=gnpiq1io5327esunrjcnbjmsf6

PB
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: Muffin41 on Friday 23 November 12 21:36 GMT (UK)
You are right again PB :D

His brother Albert Victor Hennen emigrated 8 Mar1913 to Canada on the S S Canada after their parents died by 1905 in Woking Surrey. He lived in Hamilton Ontario and married Violet May Russell there in 26 Jul 1923. She was also born in England in 1903, I do not know when she arrived in Canada.

Muffin41
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: polarbear on Friday 23 November 12 21:57 GMT (UK)
I think your Frederick came to Canada via Portland Maine (a common route when the St Lawrence River was frozen). There is a 14 year old Fred P Hennen arriving Portland 27 Mar 1910 aboard the Dominion which sailed from Liverpool 17 Mar 1910. He is with a large party of similar-aged boys travelling to Hamilton Ontario. This appears to be similar to the group Albert immigrated with.

PB
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: Muffin41 on Friday 23 November 12 22:05 GMT (UK)
That looks good, the name and age fit in with my information.

Can you say when the Canada sailed from Liverpool in 1913?

Muffin
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: polarbear on Saturday 24 November 12 01:01 GMT (UK)
The Canada left Liverpool 08 Mar 1913 and arrived Portland Maine 18 Mar 1913. Interesting that both brothers appear to have followed the same route to Canada.

PB
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: Muffin41 on Saturday 24 November 12 10:25 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much for your help PB 8)

One last question, does anyone know of an on-line Canadian Newspaper Archive ?

Muffin41
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: polarbear on Sunday 25 November 12 15:02 GMT (UK)
You're very welcome  :).

I don't believe there is any central online newspaper archive. What is on line seems to be for individual newspapers. For example, the Toronto Star archives can be found at 'pagesofthepast', which is an inexpensive pay site.

I think your best option is to google for libraries in the areas you are looking at. Luseland, for example, is found in this link under branches. I would also consider contacting this umbrella library organization through the 'ask a librarian' on the link. They may have more resources than than the tiny Luseland branch is likely to have.

http://www.wheatland.sk.ca/

Library and Archives Canada has copies of just about all Canadian newspapers, if I remember correctly, but they are not available on line.

PB

Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: Muffin41 on Sunday 25 November 12 16:12 GMT (UK)
I will see what I can find and leave the topic open for a while in case someone has any more information.

Muffin41 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: Muffin41 on Tuesday 07 October 14 13:49 BST (UK)
I have just found , after nearly 2 years the following marriage on Family Search. MM9.1.1/KZBM-NKF

Edith May Wise's parents, Auldridge Dreans Wise and Adeline Bell Brigham, Marriage 23 Jun 1897 Glanford, Wentworth, Ontario, Canada.

Can anyone find out if the parents were Born in Canada?
Auldridge Dreans Wise born about 1871 and Adeline Bell Brigham born about 1878

Muffin41
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: dbree on Tuesday 07 October 14 14:50 BST (UK)
Hi Muffin41,

From Ontario Canada Marriages, it gives the following,

Auldridge was born in Pickering Ontario
Adeline was born in Glanford Township, Ontario

Cheers,
DB
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: dbree on Tuesday 07 October 14 15:06 BST (UK)
Hi Muffin41,

In case you don't have this, here is Auldridge in 1901 Census Hamilton, Ontario, transcribed as Huldredys  ???

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01am1/

Cheers,
DB
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: Muffin41 on Tuesday 07 October 14 15:39 BST (UK)
Thank you DB :D

On the same link is a John Wise who I believe is Auldridge's father - 2nd entry from top.
He is a widower - I believe the name of his wife was Jennett ???. That could be Jeanette :-\

Muffin41
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: dbree on Tuesday 07 October 14 15:46 BST (UK)
Hi Muffin41,

There is mention of Auldridge and Adelia  ??? Wise in Our Roots (a collection of Canadian history).

http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=4013333

Cheers,
DB
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: dbree on Tuesday 07 October 14 15:49 BST (UK)
Hi Muffin41,

From Ontario Canada Marriages, Auldridge's mother's name is written as Jennett ???

Cheers,
DB
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: dbree on Tuesday 07 October 14 16:02 BST (UK)
Hi Muffin41,

I think this is Jennett/Jennet/Jeanette ??? on the 1891 census for Hamilton, Ontario with Auldridge,
transcribed as Eldridge.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01am4/

Cheers,
DB
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: Muffin41 on Tuesday 07 October 14 16:04 BST (UK)
Thank you for the link, makes very interesting reading :D :D

Cheers
Muffin41
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: RunKitty on Tuesday 07 October 14 16:11 BST (UK)
Hi,

In case you don't already have it... 1881 census for Adeline (Adelia B) Brigham with parents William and Margaret and grandfather William.  Looks like her parents were also born in Ontario.

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008189406.jpg

RK
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: RunKitty on Tuesday 07 October 14 16:16 BST (UK)
Looks like this is William Brigham Sr's tombstone... his wife was Elizabeth.  Lots of other Brigham burials in this cemetery. 

http://canadianheadstones.com/on/view.php?id=36882

http://www.canadianheadstones.com/on/cemetery.php?cemID=269&pg=2

RK
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: Muffin41 on Tuesday 07 October 14 16:22 BST (UK)
Thank you for the cemetery link RK :D :D

Todays updates have made my day, thank you both for helping me. ;D ;D

Cheers
Muffin41
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: dbree on Tuesday 07 October 14 19:20 BST (UK)
Hi Muffin41,

Birth record for Auldridge from Ontario Canada Births Pickering

Aldridge Wise, male, born May 25, 1871
Name of father: John Wise, occupation farmer, address Lot 19, Con. (Concession)2, Pickering
Name of mother: Janet  ;D Sutherland
When registered: July 3, 1871, Pickering Ontario
Accoucheur: (French for mid-wife): Mrs. George Wise

Cheers,
DB
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: dbree on Tuesday 07 October 14 19:39 BST (UK)
Hi Muffin41,

A death record for Janette ...... with yet another spelling ;D

February 7, 1899 Hamilton, Ontario, County of Wentworth
Jennette Wise, age 54, married, residence 254 Emerald N, religion Meth.
Place of birth: Woodstock, Ontario
Cause of death: Pulmonary Tuberculosis - 3 years
Physician: F. Coleman
Person making return: F. Coleman

Matches up with John being a widow on the 1901 census.

Cheers,
DB
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: dbree on Tuesday 07 October 14 21:13 BST (UK)
Hi Muffin41,

A death record for John

July 19, 1916 Hamilton, Ontario, County of Wentworth
John I. Wise, age 78, residence 254 Emerald St. North, occupation: carpenter
Place of birth: Pickeron ???, Ont.
Cause of death: Old age - 2 to 3 weeks :o
Name of informant: H.I. Wise, 105 Oak Avenue
Physician: J.T. Rogers
Place of burial: Hamilton Cemetery

Cheers,
DB

Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: Muffin41 on Wednesday 08 October 14 11:18 BST (UK)
Thank you again for the valuable details :)

I am still looking to the place of death for Frederick George Percival Hennen who died 20 May 1970.
In 1935 he was living in Luseland, Regina, Saskatchewan.
His wife Edith May Wise died 1964 in Florida.

Muffin41 :)
Title: Re: Look up for marriage in Hamilton Ontario, Hennen-Wise
Post by: dbree on Saturday 07 October 17 01:11 BST (UK)
Hi,

According to his WW1 service file (now digitized) your Frederick went by the name of Percy and
he died 20 May 1970 in Hamilton, Ontario. This file is very slow to load.
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?op=pdf&app=CEF&id=B4268-S034

From a previous post of yours about Albert Victor Hennen, you may wish to check with the
Woodland Cemetery, Hamilton, Ontario as Percy may be there as well.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=777373.0

DB