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Title: Daniel boyd
Post by: greeneyesgudge on Monday 26 November 12 13:57 GMT (UK)
Hi im looking for any information in Daniel Boyd he was born in Ireland 1799 and moved to Manchester and married a lady Jane who was also born Ireland 1791 .they had a girl Jane Boyd born Manchester. 1826 .is it possible to research familys in Ireland before 1800 as I also have another branch of the family Winifred Moore and her kids who were all born Ireland and also moved to Manchester .but I came to a dead end with tracing back further with that family would be nice to find out the parents names and what part of Ireland they all originated from  :)
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 26 November 12 16:34 GMT (UK)
You've posted this topic on the Antrim board but say Daniel Boyd was born in "Ireland"- do you have any details which point to him being from County Antrim?

The dates are well before the start of civil registration and many church records do not date before 1800 (or even mid-1800s). If you know an exact location and records survive then you might be extremely lucky to find some information.

Have a look at Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html) and My Ancestor came from Ireland - where do I start? (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,498742.0.html).
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: greeneyesgudge on Monday 26 November 12 17:52 GMT (UK)
How do I post this to the Irish board then as it all looked like different countys and seeing as I don't no what part I put it on the first board that caught my eye
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 26 November 12 18:01 GMT (UK)
Will move this topic to Ireland-General board for you since you don't have a location.
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: heywood on Monday 26 November 12 18:32 GMT (UK)
Hello,

as  aghadowey says you do need more information as it is so early. However, Family Search has a possible marriage to Jane Garden. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NK87-X4B

regards
heywood
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: greeneyesgudge on Monday 26 November 12 23:00 GMT (UK)
Ok thankyou ,I guess there is no more information to give because I don't know myself   :( even if the marriage to Jane garden is correct its before 1837 so I can't order a marriage certificate but least its something .thankyou for your efforts and advice .
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: Peggy13 on Tuesday 22 January 13 00:30 GMT (UK)
Hello Greeneyes,
One of my ancestors was John Boyd who was born in Oxford, England between 1800-1810. His parents were Samuel Carson Boyd and Mary Lawson from Co. Antrim. I have a letter dated 1847 and written by Samuel which stated that John had been living in Manchester prior to his emigration to Canada about 1844. I believe that John married in Manchester prior to his emigration. Would John have any connection to your Daniel since they both lived in Manchester? Hoping to hear from you.
Peggy
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: greeneyesgudge on Wednesday 23 January 13 21:08 GMT (UK)
HI Peggy they could be related but my daniel was born  ireland 1799 . in most of the census records his living with his daughter jane lackey and son in law thomas .I have found no siblings or parents for him yet so john could be a possible brother maybey ?but i have no facts unfortunatley .
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: greeneyesgudge on Wednesday 23 January 13 21:18 GMT (UK)
HI Peggy they could be related but my daniel was born  ireland 1799 . in most of the census records his living with his daughter jane lackey and son in law thomas .I have found no siblings or parents for him yet so john could be a possible brother maybey ?but i have no facts unfortunatley .

hi Peggy me again Ive just been looking at birth and baptisms in Ireland for Daniel Boyd and there is a couple in 1801 for a Daniel Boyd. father is called samuel ?i wonder if that is my Daniel and if its the same father samuel as your john ? :)
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: Peggy13 on Wednesday 23 January 13 22:02 GMT (UK)
The years and the father all fit but I don't really think my John is a brother to your Daniel. Maybe a cousin. You see, when Samuel was writing to his daughter Margaret in Co. Antrim in 1841 and 1847, he names each sibling and tells her what each one is doing. There is no Daniel mentioned.
Unfortunately, I have not been able to find the baptisms of any of my Samuel's children, even my gg grandmother Susan or her sister Jane, for whom I do have the exact dates of birth in Oxford. I have come to think they belonged to a non-conformist religion for which the records cannot be found. In Canada, they belonged to the Disciples of Christ and I am still searching for those records although I think I am making progress. I have found a lady who goes to the Archives for the Disciples. I am trying to find Samuel's date of death in Canada. I know the town and county. I didn't find Samuel's birth although I know it was Co. Antrim about 1780 as was Mary Lawson's dob as well. Thanks for the reply
Peggy
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: greeneyesgudge on Friday 25 January 13 12:40 GMT (UK)
Thats a shame ...i guess daniels parents will remain a mystery for me ,i find i get to ireland and come to a brick wall ....after that ,its the same with 3 sets of families the moores the lackeys and the cleggs all originate from ireland from what ive found on english census records but then i cant track any baptisams down for them because there is so many with the same name .and lack of records pre 1800 century .goodluck with your hunting .
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: billyb2559 on Friday 13 February 15 21:38 GMT (UK)
Greeneyes,
   I see that this Daniel A.  Boyd has a distant match with my DNA.  The match is at the 25 marker, with one genetic hiccup.
   We left Ireland from County Down, mid 1750s, and settled in New Windsor, NY.  In County Down, we have baptismal records of some kin in Ballyhalbert, and we also believe that we lived in County Antrim before the 1700s. 
   Our family is titled "Boyds of New Windsor, NY" by William P. Boyd, in his book.  My branch of that family traveled to western Ny about 1790 and landed in Phelps, Ontario county, Ny about 1790.
  I see Daniel's wife is buried in next county over, which is Stueben.  Possibly your family traveled to Stueben, NY knowing kin was in that area.
  We have a family research team in place, with two members right in Ireland.  We probably will research your Daniel Boyd, as if we can go back with his family, maybe we can find our branch.  So have you made any further gains on this Daniel Boyd, where in Antrim County did he live, or anything at all that may help.

William Boyd
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Sunday 15 February 15 10:09 GMT (UK)
To give you the flavor of a Co Down website which includes many Cleggs etc
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/B/BoydAJ.htm
D. BOYD . Dromore died in 1st World War War Memorial
Rev. D. BOYD . Newry officiated at wedding at St. Mary's Church of Ireland 21 Oct 1845 AG
Daniel BOYD . Drumgooland of Cloughskelt; will probated 1773 IIW V4 p14
Daniel BOYD . Holywood of Ballycultra; leased a house & yard with George Jenkinson in 1863 from Board of Admiralty GV
Daniel BOYD . Holywood of Sydenham Cottage, Strandtown; leased the house & 1 acre in 1863 from Henry Nicol GV
Daniel Lilly BOYD . Knockbreda his son William died 11 Apr 1849 aged one; buried old Breda graveyard MIs
Daniel BOYD . Knockbreda regd. Ballymacarrett; husband of Jane Coffey; father of Daniel b. 8 Aug 1868 CR
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: billyb2559 on Sunday 15 February 15 10:44 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the reply and the website.  We are familiar with Ros Davies.  We are  unscrambled several Boyd line in County Down and have some of our work posted by Mike Boyd, of the Boyd World Project, as he checks in on us daily.  About 9 of us are on this team, two of which are genealogists, and some have worked on the World Project. 
  the rest have have at least several years of experience or more, and one has as much as 26 years experience.
    I will send this information you sent out, to the others in the morning.  We will probably get started on it soon as now we have a couple of other leads we are working on now.  I will get back to you with anything we find, or if we have any questions. 
   We are looking for the father of these siblings, and by Scottish naming practices, his name should be Samuel, who was still alive as of 1757.  One sibling stayed behind, his name was David, and was born about 1710.
   If you have any further questions, just ask.  If there is anyone else wishing to give information, regarding Daniel A, Boyd b: 1799, please respond.

Thank you all.

William Boyd
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: billyb2559 on Sunday 15 February 15 17:22 GMT (UK)
I want to be sure we are searching for the same Daniel A. Boyd.  The below David Boyd, b: 1799, is also listed in "find a grave", and is buried in Greenwood Cemetery, along with his wife Jane.  In a 1870 census, this family is joined by a Ruth Boyd, b: about 1791.  This Ruth is listed on "find a grave", as Daniel's sister.  But I suspect she is a sister in-law as there was a child in this census that I suspect may have been daughter to Ruth.
  In a later cencus, Ruth is listed as a sister-in-law.
  I then did a search on Ruth, and she appears with her family, with several children.  The two eldest sons are Thomas 22, and David 20.
   Scot naming patterns means that Ruth may have been married to a David, who's father was Thomas.  So I suspect Daniel A. Boyd has a brother named David, and their father is William.

   If you do not have this information, I can start forwarding it to you. 
   So again, is Daniel A. Boyd, b1799 the correct Daniel boyd you are searching for.
   By the way, their graves state they were born in County Antrim.

William Boyd





Daniel Boyd
 
United States Census, 1860
     
Name: Daniel Boyd 
Event Type: Census 
Event Year: 1860 
Event Place: Greenwood, Steuben, New York, United States 
Gender: Male 
Age: 61 
Race: White 
Birth Year (Estimated): 1799 
Birthplace: Ireland 
Page: 16 
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) 
Affiliate Publication Number: M653 

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Daniel Boyd   M 61 Ireland
Jane Boyd   F 58 Ireland
Andrew Boyd   M 22 Ireland
Ruth Boyd   F 19 Ireland
Daniel Boyd   M 16 Ireland
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 15 February 15 17:32 GMT (UK)
...   Scot naming patterns means that Ruth may have been married to a David, who's father was Thomas.  So I suspect Daniel A. Boyd has a brother named David, and their father is William. ...

Not sure that the bit quoted above makes sense as you seem to be saying that David's father might have been Thomas but that Daniel and David's father was possibly William  :-\

If the gravestones in America say Co. Antrim I would tend to believe that's where they came from but much of the detail posted here is for Co. Down so I'm wondering that all this information really does tie into the same family.
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: Maggsie on Sunday 15 February 15 18:58 GMT (UK)
Hi, Is this your Samuel Boyd from County Antrim.
The Father is listed as Samuel.

Mary Baptised 5th December 1787
Samuel Baptised 26th July 1789
Jane Baptised 26th July 1789.   It states that Samuel and Jane are twins.
Henry Baptised 10th June 1795
Sarah Baptised 7th June 1800.
All in the Parish of Blaris, which have town lands in County Down and County Antrim (Lisburn is in the middle) In the 1901 census of Ireland Blaris seems only to be in County Down.

There was another Samuel born in 1799, in Shankill. was this Daniel? I wonder.
It doesn't state the Mothers names but the Father was Samuel, it states he was a soldier, Was he?
The only place you will get your info is in The Records Office in Belfast.

I hope this is a help for you.
Maggsie
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: billyb2559 on Sunday 15 February 15 21:08 GMT (UK)
I made an error in my typing. I meant to state that the father may be a Thomas, not William.

Sorry it has taken me so long to get back, trouble with internet, keeps going down.  Is -20 F here today in Michigan, USA. 

 Maggsie,
   Not our Samuel.  Our 4 siblings who crossed to America, were Samuel, b: abt 1695 - 1700, Robert b: 1703, James Boyd, b: abt 1705, Nathaniel, b: abt 1707, and Mary, b: abt 1710-15.
  Another brother, David, was left behind in Ireland, probably in County Down, Ballyhalbert area.  Unk birth year.  Just that he existed and he and the father of these siblings were still alive as of 1757, as so stated in will of eldest sibling, Samuel, who died in 1757.
  It is believed this family migrated from Scotland, to County Antrim, then to Down.  We know, by baptismal records of some of their children, to exist in Ballyhabert in 1730s - 1750s.
   No records of any of their births have been found, or their marriages in Ireland.  So we believe County Antrim may hold some information somewhere. 
    We are now trying to find their families through other kin, via DNA, we hope.  But my DNA does not match any Boyds at the 67 marker level.  Only one confirmed match, and that is of a Hamill family, which the two clans ran together in the 15th and 16th centuries, and earlier.
   Thanks for trying anyways, we will find them, one way or the other.  It is time for the other.

    My DNA match, is for Daniel A. Boyd, b: 1799, County Antrim.  But it is a weak connection.  We do not expect to connect Daniel directly to our family, but we think by following his family, we may start to see them come together with some of the Boyds we feel we are connected to.
     The Boyds of Glastry are descendants of Col. David Boyd, direct descentant of Robert Boyd, the 5th Lord Boyd of Kilmarnock.
     By unscrambling and putting together some of these families, we can discover further brothers and sisters to other Boyd families, which help in connection other branches of Boyds.  We have done this already with County Down Boyds, and will start with some County Antrim Boyds, and some of their in-laws.  But it does help with knowledge from others who have already did some research in that area.  Maybe someone has some knowledge of a Thomas Boyd, in County Antrim area, that may have had at least two sons, Daniel b: 1799, and David, b: about 1790.
   This is just a start.  We have a hard working group, we can do this.

William Boyd
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: billyb2559 on Sunday 15 February 15 21:26 GMT (UK)
Has anyone knowledge of this Daniel Boyd, married to Jane White.

William Boyd

 Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Daniel A. Boyd and Jane White of Co. antrim
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 Recently I was given a Boyd family of County Antrim that started with

 Daniel A. BOYD
 b. 23 Feb 1799, County Antrim, N. Ireland
 d. 18 May 1878, Andover, Allegany, New York
 ado.
& Jane WHITE
 b. 27 Jan 1801, County Antrim, N. Ireland
 d. 18 Feb 1881, Andover, Allegany, New York
 ado.
 m.
 Daniel BOYD
 b. 12 Aug 1844, County Antrim, N. Ireland
 d. 8 Jan 1894, Andover, Allegany, NY
 ado.
& Jennie Clisdell WHITE
 b. 4 Aug 1849, South Howard, Steuben, New York
 d. 8 Jan 1900, Andover, Allegany Co, NY
 ado.
 m. 8 Oct 1868, NY

 There was no location within County Antrim given or know for this family.
 Do any members know of this Boyd and White family?

 I would also assume that Daniel Boyd, the son, from his date of birth, was
 the younger half of this family.

Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: billyb2559 on Friday 08 July 16 04:42 BST (UK)
Hello All,
   It has been a while since I have posted on this Daniel Boyd b/1799, County Antrim, Ireland.  One huge item I failed to mention.  I strongly feel this Daniel Boyd is somehow related to our Boyds of New Windsor, NY., and this is why. 
   In my family line. one Robert R. Boyd, b/1771, New Windsor, NY, who had a son, Robert R. Boyd b/ about 1818, in New York.  Just about the same time, these two families (Robert Boyd and Daniel Boyd) moved to Andover, Allegany County, NY.  In 1865, according to an agricultural report, Robert R. Boyd Jr. and Daniel Boyd, b/ 1799, in Ireland, living with wife Jane, 1802, were neighbors.  There was just one farm between their two farms.  Coincidence, possible, but I truly feel this Daniel Boyd is a cousin of our Boyd's of New Windsor. 
   Finding his father, would probably lead us to locating our missing father to our siblings from New Windsor, NY.
   We have positive proof, our family has left a footprint in Ballyhalbert, County Down, Ireland.  We can match several baptismal records to children of the siblings.  We also have a church record from Little Britain, Orange County, NY, where one sibling (Robert Boyd), gave his birth location as Ballyhalbert, Ireland.
   If anyone is related to this Daniel Boyd or any of the Boyds from New Windsor, please reply.

William Boyd
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Friday 08 July 16 10:03 BST (UK)
Hi William Boyd you say “We have positive proof, our family has left a footprint in Ballyhalbert, County Down, Ireland” i looked around briefly knowing you have Ros davies website information

The BOYD family came over from Ayrshire, Scotland with James Hamilton & Hugh Montgomery as part of the Ulster Plantation from 1606; see http://www.northdowntourism.com/Documents/Biographies.aspx ; part of the sept Clan Stewart; related to the Montgomerys   PE; MGSIIG p14  Source Ros Davies website.

1659 see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/B/BoydKW.htm
Thomas   BOYDE   Esq.   Ballyhalbert   proprietor of Portavogie townland in 1659   SP
The civil parish name Ballyhalbert is aka St Andrews, alias Ballyhalbert.
The district as used in census appears to be different to the townlands in the civil parish

1834 Tithe-Applotment-Books extremely selective
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/ballyhalbert-parish.php#.V39Qd1eoc5Q
Boyd, Margaret Townland: Ballyfrench Year: 1834
Ballyfrench townland it’s the neighbouring southern townland to Ballyhalbert Townland and village. When she died that was the end of the Boyds in Ballyfrench

1863  Griffith valuation  see www.askaboutireland.com doesn’t include the poorest people
Boyd   William   Ballyhalbert   Ballyhalbert alias St. Andrew   Down
Boyd   William   Ballyesborough   Ballyhalbert alias St. Andrew   Down
Boyd   Mary   Portavogie   Ballyhalbert alias St. Andrew   Down
Boyd   James   Glastry      Ballyhalbert alias St. Andrew   Down ie Inishargy civil parish
Boyd   Hugh   Glastry      Ballyhalbert alias St. Andrew   Down ie Inishargy civil parish
Boyd   Charles   Glastry      Ballyhalbert alias St. Andrew   Down ie Inishargy civil parish
Boyd   John   Glastry      Ballyhalbert alias St. Andrew   Down ie Inishargy civil parish
Inishargy civil parish is to the west and north of Ballyhalbert

I will follow on shortly BallyaltikilliganG
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Friday 08 July 16 10:08 BST (UK)
Hi William again,
1901 census
Townlands/Streets in Ballyhalbert District (Down) in the 1901 census in ‘Bold’ with any relevant entry from the census for boyd included under the townland
Ballycasborough as in civil parish aka Ballyesborough?
Ballycranmore in Ardkeen civil parish
Ballyfrench as in civil parish
Ballygraffin as in civil parish
Ballyhalbut {I think transcription error and means Ballyhalbert}
49 in Ballyhalbut (Ballyhalbert, Down) 1901 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie
Boyd  David 42Male Brother Presbyterian  Ballyhalbert, Co Down  Sailor  Cant read Widower  -
Boyd  James  38  Male  Head of Family  Presbyterian  Ballyhalbert, Co Down  Farm Labourer Married 
Boyd  Alas  [Alice] 42  Female  Wife  Presbyterian  Ballyhalbert, Co Down  Flower  Cant read  Married 
Boyd  James  15  Male  Son  Presbyterian  Ballyhalbert, Co Down  Farm Labourer     
Boyd  David  12  Male  Son  Presbyterian  Ballyhalbert, Co Down  At School
Boyd  David H  11  Male  Nephew  Presbyterian  Portrush, Co Down
Boyd  William  7  Male  Nephew  Presbyterian  Portrush, Co Antrim  At School
Ballyhallurt {I think transcription error and means Ballyhalbert}
4 in Ballyhallurt (Ballyhalbert, Down) 1901 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie
Boyd Robert 64 Male Boarder Presbytarian Down Farm Labourer  Widower -
Young William 50 Male Head of Family Presbytarian Down Sailor  Married -
Young Mary 46 Female Wife Presbyterian Down Sailor  Married -
Young Charles 24 Male Son Presbyterian Down Farm Labourer  Not Married -
Young Hugh 16 Male Son Presbyterian Down Farm Labourer  Not Married -
Young Lizzie 11 Female Daughter Presbyterian Down Scholar  Not Married
Ballyhimlin as in civil parish aka Ballyhemlin
Ballylimp reassigned from Ballywalter parish to Inishargy between 1851 and 1961
Echlinville as in civil parish
Portavogue as in civil parish aka Portavogie
33 in Portavogue (Ballyhalbert, Down) 1901 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie
Boyd David 50 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Down Farmer  Married
Boyd Eliza 51 Female Wife Presbyterian Co Down Farmer Wife  Married
Boyd Mary 17 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Down Farmer's Daughter 
Boyd Annie 15 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Down Scholar 
Boyd Nanny 52 Female Sister Presbyterian Co Down Farmers Sister  Not Married -
Roddans as in civil parish

By 1911, the population further diminishes from 13 to 8 inc just born Mary Agnes.

Many other civil church and other records exist eg

Boyd manuscript family tree exist, in the Blackwood Family History manuscript trees Collection in the LinenHall library, Belfast.. Visit if you can, give them warning helps, if you cant then I suggest you write to them asking them for photocopying estimates only if they think your knowledge relevant and be prepared to pay the extra for post and packing if you are tempted.  Possibly out of date “The Library welcomes all research enquiries, whether made in person, by phone, fax, letter or e-mail. Enquiries from members will be answered free of charge. Visitors from afar, and in particular those engaged in serious research projects, are recommended to make prior contact with the Library to ensure that they receive the best possible service. More complex enquiries should be made by letter, fax, or e-mail. Enquiries of this kind from within the British Isles will normally be answered free of charge, apart from any copying and postage charges. A minimum charge of £2 will normally be made in respect of overseas enquiries. A4 photocopies b&w are 20p.  The Library may be able to assist those with more extensive research requirements on terms subject to negotiation with the Librarian. Contact the Library for further information on info@linenhall.com or Telephone 028 9032 1707. Their address is The Linen Hall Library,17 Donegall Square North, Belfast BT15GB, Northern Ireland, see their website for contact details or use Email:info@linenhall.com.
The volume references for
BOYD  Vol 4p54, Vol 6p54 Glastry, Vol 10p93, Vol 11N, Vol 17 Glastry, Vol 20, Vol 91
owever if the material is really relevant when you get it, I suggest a further donation to this unique library that is always needing extra funds.
Hoping in this is ia piece of new information for you
good luck, Bally...G
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: billyb2559 on Sunday 10 July 16 21:33 BST (UK)
Thank you Bally G for all your information.  We will go over what you sent in hopes we do find something new.

  Here is another interesting tidbit that may also be of interest. 

   The Boyd's of Middletown, NY, its elder Boyd was named Robert Boyd.  He was probably born in Scotland, then moved to Northern Ireland, possibly Belfast, before coming to America, first arriving in Philadelphia, then settling in Middletown, NY.  In Middletown, he lost his entire family, except one daughter, to illness.  He then moved to New Windsor.  Why New Windsor?  Was it because he was related in some way to our New Windsor Boyds? 
   In New Windsor, he married Sarah Lyons Hunter, widow of Robert Hunter.  Turns out, Sarah was the sister to a Mary Lyons, wife of Samuel Boyd of our New Windsor Boyds.  Samuel was born in 1734, Ballyhalbert, Ireland.  He was the son of James Boyd, b/ about 1705, either Scotland or Ireland, my 5x great grandfather.  So was this Robert Boyd, a cousin to our New Windsor Boyds.
   Now we know that many Boyds immigrated to Ireland in the early 1600s.  Some received lands from Montgomery, and others from Hamilton.  It was possible, cousins were given lands in different Counties, and some even reconnected when they moved to America.

   I believe that Daniel Boyd of Antrim, Robert Boyd from Belfast, and the New Windsor Boyd, are all related.  When and if we can locate one of the fathers of these three Boyd families, we will unravel a huge Boyd Clan. 
   This is just an opinion at this point, but I sure feel fairly strong about the possible connections.
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Monday 11 July 16 20:18 BST (UK)
You are doing more than most to secure your ancestry as far as it can be traced. Well done. Sometime  when too many brickwalls surround you, you should relax into the" its time for others to take over."   Sooner or later someone will find one further pip and be amazed at how far you got. All that of course hasnt happened to me aged 81 so perhaps the answer is never give up, it keeps the brain active and is more useful than crosswords and more satisfying.  Good luck  Bally....G
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: billyb2559 on Monday 11 July 16 22:55 BST (UK)
Bally G.
   Thank You for the kind words, but it is not just me.  We have a team of about 8 to 10 members, all very good in their research.  A few have written books, and out contact in Ireland has over 46 years of research experience. 
   Mike Boyd from Australia is also onboard with us and keeping us focused on our goals so we do not wondering off too bad.  He has the toughest job.  We feed off each other, it is amazing when one member finds a small clue, how much information this team can generate from a small clue.
   If anyone has Boyd kin from County Down, there is a good chance we can help.
   Thanks again Bally G, I hope to keep in touch with anything we may find of importance.

   If there is any Keown-Boyd families out there, contact us as we have seemed to unraveled  their family in County Down. 

billyb
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: babzi on Monday 05 September 16 22:33 BST (UK)
Hi all,
I read with interest of the Boyd Manuscripts. Has anyone every seen these or ordered these?
David Boyd of Kilkeel is my GGG Grandfather and he married a Margaret Blackwood sometime before 1800.
I wonder if it's worth trying to get a copy to see if his family tree is listed in these manuscripts?

Thanks
Babzi
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: hughtc1 on Monday 10 June 19 18:57 BST (UK)
Daniel Boyd my father, Seventh son of Admiral Boyd, Cushendale, Co Antrim, born 22nd of June 1754, married about the year 1775, Catherine Ann, Burgess of Mayo, Drown 5th December 1785, aged 31 years, Stewart Boyd, 2 City Quay, Dublin 1840,
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: hallmark on Monday 10 June 19 19:42 BST (UK)
Belfast: Belfast Public Record Office, D.2453 [part]

Genealogical notes relating to the families of Spencer of Co. Armagh, 1730-1835, Agnew of Kilwaughter, Co. Antrim, c.1200-1951, and Boyd of Co. Antrim, c.1600-1634.
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: hallmark on Monday 10 June 19 19:44 BST (UK)

Copies of Connor and Down wills, most frequent name Boyd, also Hamilton, Catherwood, Hancock, etc. 1639-1799.  Belfast: Belfast Public Record Office  |o T. 828 (4-47) 
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: hallmark on Monday 10 June 19 19:46 BST (UK)

Letter of Rev. G. Hill to Mrs. Boyd of Ballycastle relating to a trip to Glenshesh, Co. Antrim, Aug. 18, 1859. Notes on the Boyd family of Ballycastle, Co. Antrim c. 1700-1850.

Belfast: Belfast Public Record Office, D.528 (1-2)
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: KimberlyD on Thursday 25 July 19 16:37 BST (UK)
I am looking for information on Martha Boyd, born February 8,1879. She married Richard Sharpe 11.11.1893 in Belfast, Gt Victoria St Presbyterian church. Both parents born in Co. Down, and until they emigrated to Canada we’re living in Belfast.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1893/10612/5866385.pdf
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Ormeau/Glentoran_Street/1210410/

From the marriage information we know her father was David Boyd but other than the possibility of him being a boarder in a census report, we have no information on him. We do not know who Martha’s mother is, have been unable to locate Martha’s birth records etc.
Any assistance in how to pursue this line of inquiry regarding my family history would be greatly appreciated. Martha is my father’s grandmother, his mother was Elizabeth who later married an Englishman, Alfred Charles Andrews in Winnipeg Manitoba.
Thank you
Kimberly

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Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 25 July 19 19:25 BST (UK)
"....born February 8,1879. She married Richard Sharpe 11.11.1893..."

So she was 14 when she married?


Cert says 20
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 25 July 19 19:31 BST (UK)
If you go to  https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

and do this Search you will find her very easily, only 2 results.

It will help you on How to find things rather than me just posting Cert.....




Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 25 July 19 19:37 BST (UK)
Now that you know Mother's name you can look for Marriage on same site.

This is  how to pursue this line of inquiry regarding your family history!


Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: KimberlyD on Thursday 25 July 19 20:46 BST (UK)
I’d like to thank you for taking the time to share. Unfortunately neither is ‘our’ Martha Boyd. The birthdates are wrong. We have been working on finding her family for 3 years now. Researchers on Ireland Reaching Out have assisted for the past 18 months going by her year of birth we have in the family papers( putting her at approximately 14 years of age) as well as using 1873(to match her age of 20 yrs old on marriage certificate) and have finally given up. They suggested it was possible that she was illegitimate and put down any name so as not to be embarrassed. It has also been suggested I check within a variety of groups to see if any information or a family member could be located.
I will continue to pursue this search.
Thank you again.
Title: Re: Daniel boyd
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 26 July 19 09:48 BST (UK)
Remember that most people wouldn't have been sure of their own birthdate let alone what year. My father-in-law (born pre-WWI) knew he was born in 'early January' and remembered sirens going off to celebrate end of WWI. My father's cousin, a generation later, had 3 dates of birth in the same year- 1 from his birth certificate, 1 recorded in baptismal register and 3rd one his mother used.

For reference, here's the thread on another forum where much has already been posted (saves us wasting time looking for details already found if you post links)-
https://irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/message-board/looking-information-boydsharpe

A marriage at age 14 is more unlikely than likely. It wasn't uncommon if bride was older than husband for her to lower her age  ;) In 1901 census she's 27 but husband 28. On the marriage David Clarke & Agnes Clarke are the witnesses. Looks like this couple- David Clarke & Agnes Thompson with witnesses Richard Sharpe & Martha Boyd-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1892/10648/5879525.pdf

Have you examined birth certificates for all of Martha's children to see if the informant might be related? and no, not everyone followed a set naming pattern (as mentioned on your other RC post)

Note: you have Martha's birthdate as 8 Feb.1879 here but 20 Feb.1878 on your other post-
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=324412.0