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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: GraciesGran on Wednesday 28 November 12 02:33 GMT (UK)
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Hoping to find information on my great grandparents Thomas McCombe and Mary Ann Nodwell. Thomas's parents were Robert McCombe and Robert Nodwell is Mary Ann's father. Hoping to find any information or if possible photo's of them. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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Hi,
You probably already have this information but Thomas McCOMB married Mary Ann Nodwell in 1869 in Magherafelt Church of Ireland. Mary Ann seemed a popular name in the Magherafelt area as I can find several marriages, births and deaths for Mary Anns.
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Hi,
See http://applications.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar/WillsSearch.aspx for an image of the will of Robert Nodwell.
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There's several Nodwell graves in Magherafelt Church of Ireland graveyard.
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Hi,
This is possibly yours. In 1847 Robert Nodwell married Mary Jane Miller in Magherafelt Church of Ireland.
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Thank you Kingskerswell and Elwyn Soutter for your prompt replies to my post on the Nodwell / McCombe families. These are definitely my relatives. Looking forward to any other information that may surface on them. Take care.
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Trying to find info on the McComb family from 13 Springhill Ballydawley. Anyone know anything about this area and it's history? They were Church of Ireland. is there a Church of Ireland in this area?
Kind regards
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I assume this is your family in 1901:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Springhill/Ballydawley/1534779/
And 1911:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Springhill/Ballydawley/615443/
Ballydawley is in the parish of Artrea. It’s a rural agricultural area amounting to 257 acres. . In 1901 there were 20 houses there with a total population of 134 people. Most were engaged in farming. There are 3 Church of Ireland churches in the parish. Your family may have attended Artrea. It has records as follows:
Baptisms, 1811-85, with gaps; marriages, 1811-1935,
with gaps; burials, 1812-70, with gaps; confirmations,
1824, 1828, 1843, 1849, 1852, 1856, 1859 and 1863;
vestry minutes, 1723-1904;
http://www.armagh.anglican.org/Parishes/ArdtreaDesertcreat.html
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Thankyou so much :)
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Any way I can find out whereabouts they lived on a map?
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Ballydawley can be found on a map on the Griffiths Valuation site. Confusingly, there’s Ballydawley also known as Crosspatrick and another townland just known as Ballydawley, immediately to the south of that one. Your McComb family lived in plain Ballydawley.
The Valuation revision records tell me that Alex had plots 18 & 19 which combined came to about an acre. So fairly basic. However he did own it outright. It wasn’t leased. He appears to have acquired that around 1901, going by the date in the revision records. That property today, if it'd still standing, is up a dead end lane off the Ruskey Rd, near its junction with the Springhill Rd. Alex's name remains against the property up to 1929 when those records stop.
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearch
I see from his marriage to Mary Burnside that Alex was living in Ruskey in 1895.
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Thankyou so much this is very helpful. I am confused as on the census it has Alex's spouse as Ellen Dunn? Would this be incorrect. Also if Robert Hamilton McCombs middle name is Hamilton would that be Northern Ireland patranomics?
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And thankyou :)
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Wondering how I can find more out about the family?
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Samuel McCombs was born 13.4.1896 in Tamlaght. Mother was Minnie Burnside. (Minnie is a diminutive for Mary). Emma Jane was born 3.6.1898 in Ballydawley, Mother Mary Burnside. Mary Burnside died 24.6.1898 aged 22, of consumption. It was only 21 days after giving birth so presumably that left her too weak to recover.
Robert Hamilton was born 22.10.1900 at Ballydawley. Mother was Ellen McCombs formerly Dunn. Alex & Ellen were married in Tamlaght parish church on 7.11.1899. He was a widower.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10397/5785660.pdf
Alex was a widower by 1911 but I can’t see Ellen’s death anywhere in Ireland.
Re Robert Hamilton McComb, it’s not a patronymic system. It could be a forename or it could be someone else’s surname. I don’t know. Sometimes a middle name can be the mother’s maiden name (though not in this case obviously). Sometimes the name of a respected person in the area eg the Minister or the schoolteacher. However Hamilton is a common enough forename in Ireland. There were 1030 people with it as their primary forename in the 1901 census. It could just be that.
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Wow Elwyn , this is amazing thank you so much. Just looked on Marriage and Ellen's dad is Hamilton!
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Hi Elwyn
Just wondering, do you think the family would have been in the area since Plantation times? And is there any way I can find out more about the family. You have been a font of information. Thankyou so much.
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I looked in the Muster Rolls for Co Derry (c 1630) and I don’t see either McComb or Burnside listed. That suggests they arrived after that time.
Burnside is a Scottish name and McComb is generally only found in the counties of Ulster. It too appears to be Scottish in origins.
https://www.johngrenham.com/surnames/
There were several waves of settlers from Scotland in the 1600s. Some came 1610 onwards as part of the Plantation; others arrived in the 1640s when General Monro’s 10,000 strong Scottish army disbanded in Carrickfergus and many decided to stay. Another big wave arrived in the 1690s due to famine in Scotland. By the 1720s, the Scots were starting to leave Ireland, and so I’d say your families probably arrived in Ireland sometime in the 1600s, though not necessarily as part of the original plantation.
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Hi Elwyn.
Just a couple of questions. Can I ask if Alexander is also buried at Tamlagh Parish Church. Also if Robert Hamilton McCombs second wife Mary J’s marriage is regist red and which church did they marry at, I understand she was Catholic. Furthermore I understand Robert also had a daughter called Winifred, do you know when she was as born?
Thankyou so much ch for all your help.
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If you mean the Robert Hamilton McCombs born 1900 then it's you'll probably need to search GRONI's database to look for a Northern Ireland marriage (online database only covers marriages 75 or more years old, otherwise you'll need to order a certificate from GRONI)- you'll need to register then purchase a few credits.
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
Is this his father?
McCombs Alexander of Tamlaght county Londonderry thatcher died 5 August 1936 Probate Londonderry 3 September to Robert McCombs shoemaker. Effects £6.
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... Also if Robert Hamilton McCombs second wife Mary J’s marriage is regist red and which church did they marry at, I understand she was Catholic ...
GRONI online has the marriage registered in Cookstown district as Robert McCombs and Mary Maynes, it took place on 15 November 1932 and is available on a pay to view basis:
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
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Thankyou so much Elwyn. I will look on Groni and yes his father was Alexander. That is so interesting!!!
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It was gaffy and I how posted the latest details ;)
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Oh thankyou so much x
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Will the Groni details show other info?
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The information on civil certificates is standardised. See links on 1st post here for births, marriages and deaths-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=442233.0
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Hi Elwyn.
Can I ask if Alexander is also buried at Tamlagh Parish Church.
Furthermore I understand Robert also had a daughter called Winifred, do you know when she was as born?
I don’t know if Alexander is buried in Tamlaght graveyard. There’s a transcript of the legible graves in Tamlaght Lower on this site. There’s no McComb listed but he might have been buried in an unmarked grave, or the stone may not be legible now.
http://www.oneirishrover.com/tamlaght-graveyard/
There are quite a few other graveyards in the area. Not all have been transcribed and not all are on-line. You may just need to go round them all and search.
Winifred’s birth was presumably in the 1930s or later. Births in Northern Ireland within the past 100 years are not generally available on-line. They are open to the public but just not on-line. There are 2 places with on-line access: PRONI & GRONI (both in Belfast). If you, or a researcher, can get there in person you can search for her birth there. Otherwise you would need to contact GRONI (by e-mail or by phone) and ask them to search for you. There may be a search fee in addition to the cost of the birth certificate. Contact details for ringing or e-mailing GRONI:
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/contacts/contacts-az/general-register-office-northern-ireland
I think Gaffy & Aghadowey have already answered your other points.