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Research in Other Countries => Canada Lookup Request => Canada => Canada Lookup Requests Completed => Topic started by: nanny jan on Thursday 29 November 12 08:58 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I'm looking for a Mr. Cooke marrying a Miss Agnes Sturgeon, possibly in Vancouver. I'm guessing the marriage took place 1930s-1940s.
Mrs Agnes Cooke appears as daughter on the death certificate (1955) of Florence Beatrice Sturgeon; with an address in South Burnaby, BC.
Thanks,
Nanny Jan
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HI Nanny Jan,
The strict privacy laws in Canada might prevent you finding the marriage of Agnes Sturgeon to Mr Cooke.
Maybe the Canadian Voters Lists for 1953 helps you with a name for Mr Cooke - Burnaby-Richmond - Barker Avenue. Lists 3519 - Arthur P Cooke, paper-mill foreman and 3519 Mrs Agnes P Cooke. 3519 Mrs Florence B Sturgeon, housewife.
Sandra
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Canadian Voters List for 1962 - Burnaby Richmond only shows Mrs Agnes P Cooke. Barker Avenue. Clerk.
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks; that looks like the right couple.
The latest Lost Cousins newsletter gives a link to some British Columbia BMDs available on line and there is one that could be this couple .....but that image is not available. :(
Nanny Jan
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Nanny jan,
Is this the website you were referring to?
http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-AD3F11/query/Marriages,Deaths/find-adv%2B%20givennames%3D(arthur)%20AND%20surname%3D(cooke)%20%2B%2B%2B%2B
This record is now in the public domain so the image will be available in a library or similar in BC. If you go back to your first post and modify the original title to include Vancouver, a kind :) Vancouver-located RootsChatter will in all probabilty see it and offer to look it up for you.
PB
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Hi,
Yes I think that might be the couple but need to check the name of the bride's father (and mother if it is shown).
Will amend title.
Nanny Jan
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With those particular names, especially for Agnes, I suspect they are probably the correct couple. Hope someone comes along before too long ... Depends on when someone pops in to RC and takes a look around :).
PB
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Hi Nanny Jan
I can look up the marriage registration and give you a transcription of the document but I won't be able to get to my family history library until next week. If someone can do it sooner, go for it; but otherwise, I will do the look up next week.
Susan
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Hi Susan,
Thanks, that would be very useful. This branch has taken a lot of time to track so I can wait. :)
Nanny Jan
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The Obituary Index lists a Agnes Pearl Cooke - Victoria. British Columbia - died 2 nd January 2004 (born 1913) Could that be your Agnes ?
http://obits.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/obit.cgi?Surname=swrovick%2Bagnes&type=Keyword&Start=6750
Sandra
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Thanks Sandra; it's a possibility but I don't have a birth year for her. The parents of the Agnes I am hunting married in 1911 and the bride was already 37.
If I can get useful details (age, name of father/mother) from the marriage registration then I can check that obituary.
Nanny Jan
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I checked for the marriage at Royal BC Museum but the image isn't available to view. I didn't find a death for Arthur or Agnes but the deaths only go to 1991 so the Agnes in 2004 is worth checking further.
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http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy/BasicSearch
has a marriage in 1935 for
Arthur James D. Cooke
Agnes Pearl Sturgeon
Registration # 1935-09-424064
Sadly no image of the registrationis available at the museum.
death
September 27, 1955
Florence B. Sturgeon
Vancouver General Hospital, Vancouver, BC
She had been in the Municipality and Province for 41 years and in Canada 63 years
Permanent residence - 3519 Barker St, South Burnaby
date of birth - November 11, 1874
profession - at home
Widow of Ernest William Sturgeon
Father - ? Rainer/Raines
mother - Charlotte Herman
informant - daughter, Mrs. Agnes Cooke, same address as above
Burial September 30, 1955 at Mt. View, Vancouver, BC
undertaker - Harron Bros Ltd, 55E, 10th Ave, Vancouver, BC
You can view the registration at the site given above.
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at the Royal BC Museum site
Death
Ernest Sturgeon, age 65
1944-09-03
Vancouver, BC
no image available to view.
In one of your posts, you stated the bride was 37 when married in 1911 and Florence was definitely that age in 1911.
www.deathindexes.com/canada.html
you can access the Manitoba bmd's at this site
marriage
Winnipeg, Manitoba
22/12/1911
Ernest Sturgeon
Florence Raines
http://automatedgenealogy.com
1911 Census/Manitoba/Selkirk
Ernest Sturgeon, b. Nov 1878, age 33
1911 Census/Manitoba/Winnipeg
Florence Raines, domestic, single, b. Nov 1880, England, age 30, immigrated 1895
This wouldn't be the first time someone lied about their age on a census.
thought I would include all the info that I found just in case this is the family you are searching for.
Val
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http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/timescolonist/obituary.aspx?n=agnes-cooke&pid=157445977#fbLoggedOut
obituary Agnes Pearl Cooke - unfortunately no mention of parents
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Thanks folks!
Florence and Ernest are in my tree and I've some of those details; Florence was like some of her sisters......flexible ages. ;)
Florence did have another child, Beatrice, who died young; that obituary sound a good possibility.
Nanny Jan
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Hi all,
Although the museum did inform me that the marriage details would be online "in a few weeks", I have been unable to confirm so I will ask the moderator to move this to completed.
Nanny Jan
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http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy/basicSearch
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Thank you! I'd forgotten about this couple. :-[
Nanny Jan
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Do you have a Larry Sturgeon in your tree ?
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Sorry but no Larry;
Agnes was my first cousin, twice removed, so I've not yet researched her paternal line. Her father (Ernest William Sturgeon) was born in Darlington, Co.Durham, married in Winnipeg and died in Vancouver......that's all the info I have.
Nanny Jan
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Sorry I think I might have got the wrong surname for Larry (lol)
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Sorry but no Larry;
Agnes was my first cousin, twice removed, so I've not yet researched her paternal line. Her father (Ernest William Sturgeon) was born in Darlington, Co.Durham, married in Winnipeg and died in Vancouver......that's all the info I have.
Nanny Jan
You may have this by now but just in case
Obit - Ernest William Sturgeon - The Province Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
6 Sep 1944, Wed - Page 17
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/46968778/obituary-for-ernest-sturgeon-aged-65/
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
Ernest William Sturgeon - 1878 - 1944
Mountain View Cemetery
Vancouver, Greater Vancouver Regional District, British Columbia, Canada
PLOT ABRAY/*/11/017/0007 (153)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/26320938
spouse -
Florence Beatrice Rainer Sturgeon 1874 - 1955
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/35299565/florence-beatrice-sturgeon
Sandra
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Obit - spouse of Ernest William Sturgeon - Beatrice Sturgeon -
The Province Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
29 Sep 1955, Thu Page 33
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/46969203/obituary-for-beatrice-sturgeon/
Sandra
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No I don't have it, thank you. I was looking at this line just a few hours ago trying to write an item for my local family history society journal; based on her mother.....'Flighty Flo'.
Thanks again. :-*
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And there's more.....thank you again.
If I have to be stuck at home I might as well research!
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Good to help fill a blank.
Stay Safe.
Sandra :)
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George Malcolm Lane was the son of Minnie Sturgeon Lane. Mother Minnie was widowed by the time of the 1921 census 22 93 6th Ave W Vancouver BC.
George had a wife Jennet Elizabeth J Lane - Times Colonist Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
12 Jan 1996, Fri Page 43
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/46970006/obituary-for-lane-jennet-elizabeth-j/
1921 census 22 93 6th Ave W Vancouver BC
Minnie Lane 32
George Malcolm Lane 8
Elizabeth Sturgeon 69
Minnie had married Edward John Lane 15 November 1909 Manitoba.
Pvt Edward Lane 1 Juily 1892 26 September 1916 - Vimy Memorial - Vimy, Departement du Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France.
Sandra
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Death Certificate for Lillian Sturgeon Baxter - 2 August 1961
Lillian Sturgeon married James Baxter - 10 June 1913 - Winnipeg Manitoba.
Sandra
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Thanks; it's the Rainer side I am researching and Florence's escapades in Canada.
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Maybe RK can help with obituaries on this one ???
Did brother Charles H Rainer marry in York Mills, York, Ontario 22 April 1896. ???
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KSZS-P33
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-Y391-LZ6?i=837&cc=1784216&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AKSZS-P33
1911 census Toronto East Sub-Districts 13-49, Ontario.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27XM-M89
Sandra
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Yes that's him. Must check my files as not looked at this line for a year or two.
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FIND A GRAVE
List of names on this headstone.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/115068938
Sandra
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Edith Rainer marriage to James Gillians 1888 Woolwich London - 1d 1825 -
1901 census Plumstead East Woolwich
Class RG13 Piece 576 Folio 91 Page 37
James W Gillians 33
Edith Gillians 32
Thomas J Gillians 5
Albert E Gillians 3
Richard H Gillians 2
John W Gillians 1 month
Sandra
Added :- Edith Gillians - 22 Feb 1919
BURIAL Cimetière Mont-Royal Outremont, Montreal Region, Quebec.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108154386
Thomas J Gillians - 21 Feb 1959
BURIAL Cimetière Mont-Royal Outremont, Montreal Region, Quebec, Canada
Sandra
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Canadian Attestation Papers - son of Edith and James - Albert Edward Gillians - born 18 September 1896 - digitalized file 54 pages
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=413306
Canadian Attestation Papers - son of Edith and James - Thomas James Gillians - born 31 July 1895
digitalized file 94 pages
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?op=pdf&app=CEF&id=B3544-S008
Sandra
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This was the wife of Albert Edward Gillians - Edith Parsons Gillians - 26 March 1975 -
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/47000041/obituary-for-edith-gillians-parsons/
Sandra
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Thanks *Sandra*, I think I have most if not all those but will check my file.
I appreciate your efforts.
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Ok. I'll leave it for now - the object was to try and locate more obituaries - just needed a little background doing that
Sandra