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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: gail55 on Tuesday 04 December 12 20:39 GMT (UK)
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Hello, I`m new to this site, so am not sure about how to do things.....can anyone explain how to trace convicts in early Australia? I know the above couple had a daughter, Ann and Bridget was tried for murdering a woman at the Rocks in 1823, but acquitted....how do you go past that and find out about Thomas and Bridget`s history-where they were born, were they convicts etc
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat Gail55 ;D
I assume this is your little family
V18205046 1B/1820 ANN LEVER, FATHER THOMAS, MOTHER BRIDGET.
So Ann was born 1820. Now to dig up the history from that, where did you get the name LEVY or is that their original name? I cannot see a marriage, did they marry prior to coming to Australia?
Neil :D
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Hmm sad but not extraordinay.
Death
V182618 127/1826 BRIDGET LEVER DIED AGE 26. So born app1800
Neil
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Hi,
This would appear to be the murder case to which Gail55 is referring:
Mary REDMAN or REDMOND, Bridget LEVER, Thomas FRANCIS and William FENNING
Murder of Happy Filler at The Rocks
1823
Reel 1979
2703 [SZ801] 1
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http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/keyname.aspx
Edit to add:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2181850?searchTerm= lever&searchLimits=l-decade=182|||l-year=1823
Leanne
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Wow....you guys are good!!! Yes, that is the family-after Bridget died, Ann was sent to the orphnage in Parramatta.......I can then follow her to her 3 marriages, dalliances with bushrangers- she was the mother of one....Johnny the_______ I think it is Johnny the Tailor but am not sure-apparently she lived with Jacky Jacky aka Jingera Jack -her daughters were with the Clark Bothers(bushrangers) Ann`s daughter Matilda Kelly (to Thomas Kelly) is our relative.............So, I want to find out about Bridget and Ann`s father Thomas Levy-also spelt a few different ways........thanks for the support! gail55
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Hi Gail55, any chance of answering some of my earlier questions?
About their marriage, you seem to have some research done already, how far have you got with it? I cannot find a marriage in NSW, so dont know bridgets last name, I cannot see any referance to thomas except the birth of Ann, also I had a look at the orphan schools and she doesn't appear in them?
We may be able to go on if you can dot a few eyes.
Neil :D
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Hello Neil -
sorry , your email was lost among some others and I have just seen it. The info I have so far is that maybe Thomas Levy/Leaver etc was in the 48th Regiment? I think he may have come to Australia on the "Matilda" in 1817(Third Fleet). On the Convict Muster 1806-1849, I found a Bridget Leaves also on the Matilda and it said she was married to someone in the 48th Regiment, but I can`t decipher the name - I hope I am not going off on a tangent and these aren`t they people I am looking for?
Bridget was tried but acquitted for the murder of the prostitute Happy Filler in 1822/23 and I think Bridget was a prostitute, too.
Ann , the daughter was admitted to the Parramatta Orphange in 1826 when her mother died-so I don`t know where the father, Thomas, was.. Ann married John Hurley in 1835 aged 15 and I can follow her from there.
Maybe I have all the information that I can get- short of doing research in UK-
thanks-Gail55
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Oh, I got the name Ann Levy from working backwards from one of her daughters-Matilda
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Do you have those orphanage documents? There are three references....
http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/searchform.aspx?id=74 (search for Lev%)
Have you had a look here http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~garter1/tobegin.htm (You will need your sunnies on 8))
Thomas LEAVER
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~garter1/l48th.htm
Debra :D
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I found a Bridget Leaves also on the Matilda and it said she was married to someone in the 48th Regiment, but I can`t decipher the name
I think it says "Wife of Leaver, Trumpeter to 48th R(egiment)"
Debra :D
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Thanks Debra-no I don`t have those orphanage documents, but will get them and the other sites were good too....and very bright and there is a LOT of reading there ! I think you are right about the "trumpeter" I was looking for a name-not a musician!Thanks again-Gail
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I am also a descendant of Bridget & Thomas. My lineage is from Anne's marriage to John Hurley. I do have quite a bit of info which I am happy to share. Bridget came free on the "Matilda" as the "wife" of Thomas Leaver, a trumpheter with the 48th Regiment of Foot which had been stationed in Ireland and was then sent to Australia. Whether Bridget & Thomas ever married is debateable because on arrival in Australia she was only 16-17, & possibly saw the trip to Asutralia as a way out of the poor life in Ireland. Anne was born in 1820 & was placed in the orphanage in 1825. Bridget died of "who-knows-what" in 1826 after having lived a life of grog, men etc. after arriving in Australia. The information you have about the murder of Happy Filler is all correct, and the acquital came about because although they were as guilty as sin, they were all too drunk to remember exactly what happened & who did what.
Anne's 3 marriages were: (1) John Hurley, (2) Thomas Kelly, & (3) William Linford/Lynford. She lived a colourful life & ended up living in Braidwood where her house is now classified by the National Trust. She is buried in Braidwood cem. Ann had various affairs with bushrangers over the years. She had a total of 12 children that we know of. In her latter years she seems to have redeemed her reputation. Please feel free to write to my private email:
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Hi, am looking into family history for sister-in-law. Have traced back from a John Charles Hurley who died in Clifton, Queensland in1906 who was married to Winifred Flanagan. On his death certificate it states his parents as Timothy Hurley and mother Ann. From other people researching they are saying he could be son of John Hurley and Ann Levy. From a history given by a granddaughter of John Hurley and Winifred Flanagan she states that she thought John Hurley was born in Belfast , Northern Ireland. If anyone has proof that the Clifton John Hurley is indeed from the Ann Levy line I would love to pass this on to my sister-in-law. Thankyou
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Hi, am looking into family history for sister-in-law. Have traced back from a John Charles Hurley who died in Clifton, Queensland in1906 who was married to Winifred Flanagan. On his death certificate it states his parents as Timothy Hurley and mother Ann. From other people researching they are saying he could be son of John Hurley and Ann Levy. From a history given by a granddaughter of John Hurley and Winifred Flanagan she states that she thought John Hurley was born in Belfast , Northern Ireland. If anyone has proof that the Clifton John Hurley is indeed from the Ann Levy line I would love to pass this on to my sister-in-law. Thankyou
Their marriage certificate shows the following:
John HURLEY m. Winifred BROGAN 27 Oct 1897, St Mary's, Tenterfield #8584
Father's Name: John HURLEY
Mother's Name: Anne LEVY
Spouse's Father's Name: Michael FLANAGAN
Spouse's Mother's Name: Mary BRENNAN
Winifred was married previously:
BROGAN James m. FLANAGAN Winifred 1867 QUEANBEYAN #2927
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Thank you everyone for your quick responses. I am finding out how our ancestors changed their stories to give themselves a chance at a new life. Any other info on John Hurley and Winifred Flanagan/Brogan/Hurley and their journeys through NSW would be greatly appreciated. Regards Sandav
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Between 1871 and 1876 WINIFRED FLANAGAN had a anumber of children in the Braidwood and Cooma area.
No father is listed
The death of Winifred-
Yr 1930 REG B10775
Winifred Hurley Father Daniel or Denis Flanagan
Mother Mary
Here is an obituary
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/21521625?searchTerm="Winifred hurley"&searchLimits=exactPhrase|||anyWords|||notWords|||l-textSearchScope=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||fromdd|||frommm|||fromyyyy=1930|||todd|||tomm|||toyyyy=1930|||l-word=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||sortby
One of the births in NSW before her marriage to HURLEY
9870/1875 FLANAGAN, ANN REBECCA
Mother WINIFRED
COOMA
Marriage in QLD
Yr 1898 REG C497
Hurley, Ann Rebecca to Conlon William
So it seems the children were given the HURLEY name after the marriage
Sue
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Thank you everyone for your quick responses. I am finding out how our ancestors changed their stories to give themselves a chance at a new life. Any other info on John Hurley and Winifred Flanagan/Brogan/Hurley and their journeys through NSW would be greatly appreciated. Regards Sandav
You can search here for the deaths of the children whose parents are listed as JOHN and WINIFRED HURLEY.
https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/mainMenuSubmit.m?main_menu=IndexSearch
A number of the names will tally with the NSW exnuptial births to WINIFRED FLANAGAN.
They will also tie in with the married names for daughters mentioned in the Obituary.
Here is a news item which places the couple in, Clfton QLD by July 1897
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/76574094?searchTerm="winifred hurley"&searchLimits=
There were 2 more births before the marriage using the surname HURLEY
REG 13342/1880 HURLEY John Charles
JOHN CHARLES
WINIFRED
DUBBO
REG 11534/1881 HURLEY Thomas William
JOHN CHARLES
WINIFRED
DUBBO
Sue
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Did you need Monumental Inscriptions?
HURLEY, John Charles , d. 14.10.1906, , husband of Winifred HURLEY. b. 01.01.1839.
with son Thomas W. HURLEY., MI at Clifton
HURLEY, Thomas William , d. 12.05.1900, , b. 23.06.1881., MI at Clifton
HURLEY, Francis Clifton , no details, , Interred. Sth. Brisbane Cem., MI at Clifton.
Sue
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Hi everyone
Is this Thomas Leaver / Lever ?
Canada , British Regimental Registers of Service (1812 ? to 1845)
Thos Leaver
age - 13
height - 5ft 11
complexion - fresh
eyes - gray
hair - fair (or possibly flax/flaxen ?)
visage - round
Where born
County - Lancaster (Lancashire)
Parish - Bolton
Trade - weaver
Attestation -
Salford (Lancashire)
11 June 11 (so b abt 1798 ?)
period (of enlisted for) - US (unlimited)
by whom enlisted - Capt Fielder/ Linder ? (hard to read)
in another record , gives for visage - "cuts in the forehead"
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Hi everyone, Thank you all so much for the added information. Will be checking every detail. Sandav
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Not sure whether people on this thread have seen this newspaper advertisement placed by JOHN HURLEY
WHEREAS my Wife, ANN HURLEY, left her home and family, early in October last, without any just cause or provocation, this is to caution the public against giving her any credit on my account, and any person found harbouring her after this date will be prosecuted as the law directs; this is particularly addressed to THOMAS KELLY, of Cowra Creek, Maneroo.
JOHN, HURLEY. Bredbow, Dec. 2, 1851, Goulburn………
This may be his death
V1853206 119 In 1853 HURLEY John, Aged 50
The marriage to Thomas KELLY soon after
V1854422 41B/In 1854 KELLY, Thomas
To HURLEY Anne
NB
Sue
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Along the same lines as the item above, one placed by JAMES BROGAN after the “departure” of his wife WINIFRED
Wed 18th March 1874. Cooma Bombala Advertiser.
"I HEREBY CAUTION all persons against harbouring my wife, WINIFRED BROGAN, maiden name Winifred Flanagan, she having left her home without provocation or just cause. Any person harbouring or employing her in any way or form whatever after this date will be prosecuted. I also CAUTION' all storekeepers, business men generally, and others against giving the said Winifred Brogan credit, or negotiating with her, or anyone else on her account the purchase, transfer or ….?....?....? and Crops. I shall not hold myself responsible for any debts incurred by her, and I shall hold all persons …?...? business with her, or any person for her, responsible for the Land, Stock, and Crops referred to.
JAMES BROGAN. March 7th, 1874."
Sue
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No I hadn't seen this at all. How brilliant. What a life they must have led. Thanks Sandav
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I think it is interesting the notice placed by JAMES BROGAN was in 1874
But the first child registered in her own maiden name FLANAGAN (that is to say she does not attribute the child to her husband) was in 1871.
I do not see any children in the BROGAN/FLANAGAN union
So, it seems JAMES had waited 3 years before noting her absence.
;D
Sue
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The Monaro Pioneers site has good biographical information re John HURLEY, giving details of his conviction, marriage to Anne, children with Anne, residences, occupations and death - apparently he died from a broken leg after racing his horse on Boxing Day and crashing into a stump of a tree with his son (John) and was buried close to the cricket field (Bell's Creek) and there was no ceremony. He was Drunk at the time. (This would be the death Sue found)
http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I37270&tree=MP#sthash.kMoEbIvr.dpuf
Monaro Pioneers is a reputable site which usually has good references for information posted on the site, but, as always, the information may need to be reviewed carefully. You need to register (free) to be able to view all of their info. Click on the link for Anne LEVY and there is some good info there about her life also, with dates/places of her marriages and births of her children.
As already noted Anne LINFORD is buried at Braidwood, as is her 3rd husband William LINFORD. Apparently there is a headstone. This site has further details:
http://www.australiancemeteries.com/nsw/palerang/braidwood_ldata.htm
Judith
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Greetings to all who are researching Bridget & Thomas Leaver - have I got news for you! After much research I discovered Bridget's maiden name, where & when she married Thomas. He was 17, she 15. Thomas enlisted when he was 13 & was a trumpheter in the 48th Regiment of Foot &, as many of you know, he came to Australia on Board "Matilda" to assist Gov. Lachaln Macquarie with law & order in the colony. He left Australia in 1824 (I know some sites have him staying in Australia) after the regiment has served their 7 years here bound for India. He was discharged whilst in India as he had developed opthalmia (problems with both eyes) & returned to Bolton, Lancashire, England. I haven't established yet whether he married again or stayed "single"- he was, after all, a widower, but probably wasn't aware of that.The story of their life together, then with Ann makes for interesting reading & I am only too happy to share what I have. Bridget's life in Sydney became rougher than rough, she abandoned her child to the orphanage, became a prostitute, and died in 1826 of "who knows what". She was originally buried in Sydney where Central Station now stands, however many years ago her remains were moved & interred in Botany Cemetery near Sydney, NSW. Regards to all, Kerry
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Greetings to all who are researching Bridget & Thomas Leaver - have I got news for you! After much research I discovered Bridget's maiden name, where & when she married Thomas. He was 17, she 15. Thomas enlisted when he was 13 & was a trumpheter in the 48th Regiment of Foot &, as many of you know, he came to Australia on Board "Matilda" to assist Gov. Lachaln Macquarie with law & order in the colony. He left Australia in 1824 (I know some sites have him staying in Australia) after the regiment has served their 7 years here bound for India. He was discharged whilst in India as he had developed opthalmia (problems with both eyes) & returned to Bolton, Lancashire, England. I haven't established yet whether he married again or stayed "single"- he was, after all, a widower, but probably wasn't aware of that.The story of their life together, then with Ann makes for interesting reading & I am only too happy to share what I have. Bridget's life in Sydney became rougher than rough, she abandoned her child to the orphanage, became a prostitute, and died in 1826 of "who knows what". She was originally buried in Sydney where Central Station now stands, however many years ago her remains were moved & interred in Botany Cemetery near Sydney, NSW. Regards to all, Kerry
Hi KerryKat
Could you post the info you say you have on the Thomas Leaver/Lever marriage please ?
Ive been curious about him too since I posted his army info because I have a Martha Leaver born 1801 Bolton (according to census) and I can't find Martha or Thomas bapts on Lancashire OPC and so was wondering if they might be siblings or cousins. Though I do know Leaver or Lever is quite a common name in the Bolton area
Here is Martha's (spinster) marriage in 1825 Ormskirk , Lancashire to James Crompton a nail maker.
Dec 5th 1825
Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
James Crompton - (X), This Parish
Martha Leaver - (X), This Parish
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Hello Sallyyorks, only too happy to share info:
Church Marriage Record from Irish Family History Foundation:
Date of marriage - 24 Jan 1815
Parish/District - Templemore County - Co. Tipperary
Husband: Wife:
Thomas Leaver Bridget Gaynor
Address: Templemore Templemore
Denomination: Church of Ireland Church of Ireland
Occupation: Soldier not recorded
Age: none given none given
No parents names given no parents names given
Witnesses:
Robert Kyte, Bridget Edmonds
notes: married by license at the Templemore Church, Banns daly (sp) published by curate John Terens.
In 1815 the regiment that Thomas enlisted in was doing duty in Ireland.
Bridget Leaver/Lever/Levy died in Sydney in 1826 aged 26. She is listed in the Sydney musters as being Thomas' wife & him as a Trumpeter in the 48th Regiment of Foot. Thomas & Bridget arrived in Australia on board the barque "Matilda", as part of the 3rd Fleet to assist Gov. Macquarie keep law & order in the Colony. On Thomas' registration of service with 48th Regiment of Foot he is listed as 13yrs 215 days of age, he is from Bolton, & enlisted at Salport. There are several registrations for the birth of a Bridget Gaynor so I haven't worked out who her parents are yet. I've been researching this couple for years. Hope this helps. Regards, Kerry
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Hello Sallyyorks, only too happy to share info:
Church Marriage Record from Irish Family History Foundation:
Date of marriage - 24 Jan 1815
Parish/District - Templemore County - Co. Tipperary
Husband: Wife:
Thomas Leaver Bridget Gaynor
Address: Templemore Templemore
Denomination: Church of Ireland Church of Ireland
Occupation: Soldier not recorded
Age: none given none given
No parents names given no parents names given
Witnesses:
Robert Kyte, Bridget Edmonds
notes: married by license at the Templemore Church, Banns daly (sp) published by curate John Terens.
In 1815 the regiment that Thomas enlisted in was doing duty in Ireland.
Bridget Leaver/Lever/Levy died in Sydney in 1826 aged 26. She is listed in the Sydney musters as being Thomas' wife & him as a Trumpeter in the 48th Regiment of Foot. Thomas & Bridget arrived in Australia on board the barque "Matilda", as part of the 3rd Fleet to assist Gov. Macquarie keep law & order in the Colony. On Thomas' registration of service with 48th Regiment of Foot he is listed as 13yrs 215 days of age, he is from Bolton, & enlisted at Salport. There are several registrations for the birth of a Bridget Gaynor so I haven't worked out who her parents are yet. I've been researching this couple for years. Hope this helps. Regards, Kerry
Hi again KerryKat . Thanks for info :)
The name is most likely Leaver, sometimes spelt Lever (quite a common name in the Bolton area. Unfortunately for us) . My Martha Leaver baptism is hard to find too, also born Bolton around same time. This makes me wonder if they are related. She ended up living in Ormskirk and married there. Thomas enlisted at Salford near Manchester.
I will have another look around in next few days for any bapts for Thomas . I wonder if his father was a soldier too
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Hi there,
1820 baptism for Ann LEVER is recorded in St Phillips C of E, Sydney, parents as Thomas and Bridget LEVER. Ann was born 7 Feb and baptised 27 Feb.
Burial 23 Jan 1826 aged 26, Bridget LEVER, is recorded at St Marys Roman Catholic, Sydney. Bridget died at the Parramatta Hospital.
As per Biographical Database of Australia http://www.bda-online.org.au/
The NSW BDM has at least two separate entries for the baptism. Vol 8, line 173 of 1820 and Vol 1B, line 5046. This suggests to me that the baptism ceremony was conducted at one location and the clergyman then forwarded the details (“transmitted”) these details to the NSW Chaplain at St Philips. In 1820, NSW covered a much larger territory than it now occupies. For example, all of Van Diemen’s Land (Tasmania) was part of NSW until 1825. The burial seems to be Vol 127, line 18, of 1826 and Vol 128, line 34 (Bridget LIVER) .
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTCX-FQ2
As I understand it, around 75% of the 48th Regiment who formed that Garrison force in the 1817-1824 era in NSW, were Roman Catholics, and the NSW Governor, Lachlan Macquarie was instrumental in organising an official RC clergy presence in NSW.
Have you checked out :
James Hugh DONOHOE’s books (Births in Australia 1788-1828; The British Army in Australia 1788-1870; index of personnel; The Catholics of New South Wales 1788-1820 and their families)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/16675654?
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/15410302?
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/8937313?
or
Clem Sargent’s book The colonial garrison 1817-1824 ; the 48th Foot, the Northhamptonshire Regiment in the colony of New South Wales.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/21422253?
Cheers, JM
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Thanks for your input majm, I will certainly track down some of those books & see how much further we can get. I was ecstatic to find Thomas' marriage in Ireland - all leads pointed there & it was purely a stroke of luck I found them. Will keep you posted. Regards, Kerry
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Hi there,
1820 baptism for Ann LEVER is recorded in St Phillips C of E, Sydney, parents as Thomas and Bridget LEVER. Ann was born 7 Feb and baptised 27 Feb.
Burial 23 Jan 1826 aged 26, Bridget LEVER, is recorded at St Marys Roman Catholic, Sydney. Bridget died at the Parramatta Hospital.
As per Biographical Database of Australia http://www.bda-online.org.au/
The NSW BDM has at least two separate entries for the baptism. Vol 8, line 173 of 1820 and Vol 1B, line 5046. This suggests to me that the baptism ceremony was conducted at one location and the clergyman then forwarded the details (“transmitted”) these details to the NSW Chaplain at St Philips. In 1820, NSW covered a much larger territory than it now occupies. For example, all of Van Diemen’s Land (Tasmania) was part of NSW until 1825. The burial seems to be Vol 127, line 18, of 1826 and Vol 128, line 34 (Bridget LIVER) .
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTCX-FQ2
As I understand it, around 75% of the 48th Regiment who formed that Garrison force in the 1817-1824 era in NSW, were Roman Catholics, and the NSW Governor, Lachlan Macquarie was instrumental in organising an official RC clergy presence in NSW.
Have you checked out :
James Hugh DONOHOE’s books (Births in Australia 1788-1828; The British Army in Australia 1788-1870; index of personnel; The Catholics of New South Wales 1788-1820 and their families)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/16675654?
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/15410302?
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/8937313?
or
Clem Sargent’s book The colonial garrison 1817-1824 ; the 48th Foot, the Northhamptonshire Regiment in the colony of New South Wales.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/21422253?
Cheers, JM
This might fit with Thomas baptism being hard to find.
There has always been high numbers of English Catholics and recusancy rates in Lancashire / North of England. Some of the family my Martha Lever married into when she moved to Ormskirk from Bolton were English Catholics. Doesn't mean there is a connection with Thomas though as there are just so many Levers in the Bolton area :-\
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HI all
just doing my family tree and back to thomas and Bridget , via Ann , who is the mother of Lucy hurley who was the Mother to Mona Slade my grandmother . Would love to be able to fill a bit more out and share things I have found -
Kindest wendy
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Welcome Wendy,
Perhaps you already have the following info. If so, my apologies. RootsChat is a great place for help with researching deceased ancestors. :)
As per 48th Regiment Pay Lists. (Mitchell Library, NSW State library, Macquarie St, Sydney NSW.)
August 1817
Thomas LEAVER, 48th Regiment, Private.
Enlisted 11 June 1811, Military Company 4 & 5 & 3 & 10 & 6
Arrived Sydney 7 August 1817
Aged 13 years at enlistment, enlisted for seven years.
Served at Port Macquarie from 25 September 1822
Served at Sydney from 25 Feb 1824 to 24 April 1825
As per Sept 1825 NSW General Muster
Ann LEAVER, born in the colony, child of Bridget LEAVER, the wife of Leaver, Trumpeter 48th Regiment, aged five, residing Female Orphan School, Parramatta.
Bridget LEAVER, Came free, per Matilda 1817, wife of Leaver, Trumpeter to 48th Regiment
Thomas LEAVER, Came free, per Matilda, householder, residing Sydney.
1848 Thomas LEAVER was among those who applied for and received the Military General Service Medal for service during the Peninsula Wars. (1793-1814) Thomas’ medal included 5 clasps.
From TNA Index online,
Thomas LEAVER, born Bolton, Lancs, served in 48th Foot Regiment, Discharged aged 31.
Ref WO 97/625/48
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8760889?descriptiontype=Full&ref=WO+97/625/48
From the online index for NSW Col Secretary’s Papers 1788-1825
Bridget LEVER, April 14- May 8, 1823
In reports of prisoners tried at the Court of Criminal Jurisdiction. Reel 6023
The FORTY EIGHTH (48th) Regiment has its own index entries in the NSW Col Sec papers, under the words ‘forty eighth' Their Marriage Register to Feb 12 1818 is mentioned (perhaps it will have Bridget's maiden name ? ), and then chronological list of many matters, right down to Mar 4 1824 and Sheep for the voyage to India.
http://colsec.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/colsec/default.htm
and
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/colonial-secretary/index-to-the-colonial-secretarys-papers-1788-1825/colonial-secretary-papers-1788-1825
NSW State Records Office has various commercial partnerships with some of the commercial family history websites. I understand that Ancestry has the digitised images of many of the Col Sec papers to 1825.
https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/research-topics/immigration/immigration#3Military
https://www.nla.gov.au/research-guides/australian-joint-copying-project
AND
http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/2074205
Several of my ancestors were part of the 48th Regiment. :)
Cheers, JM
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thanks !! Yes Im finding it interesting doing mine , seems like that most of my australian family were "interesting up intill the last generation , I will see if can find the ships surgeons notes for the matilda next as I have managed to for the Eliza for another ancestor and that was interesting . Kindest wnedy
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HI Everyone on the Hurley research. It has been some time since I last looked at my Hurley family and now I have found some great research done by other family members. I would love to share what I have and discover new connections. Some of you I have crossed paths with before and look forward to making contact again. I see research has gone back past Bridget which is were I had my brick walls as many of us did. Lucy Hurley was my 2x great grandmother. Wendy if you ask your Uncle Ted he can give you my contact details.
I have the old addiction firing up again.
How wonderful to have found RootsChat and some old friends.
Lesley
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HI Everyone on the Hurley research. It has been some time since I last looked at my Hurley family and now I have found some great research done by other family members. I would love to share what I have and discover new connections. Some of you I have crossed paths with before and look forward to making contact again. I see research has gone back past Bridget which is were I had my brick walls as many of us did. Lucy Hurley was my 2x great grandmother. Wendy if you ask your Uncle Ted he can give you my contact details.
I have the old addiction firing up again.
How wonderful to have found RootsChat and some old friends.
Lesley
thanks !! Yes Im finding it interesting doing mine , seems like that most of my australian family were "interesting up intill the last generation , I will see if can find the ships surgeons notes for the matilda next as I have managed to for the Eliza for another ancestor and that was interesting . Kindest wnedy
Hi Wendy your mother was my grandmother's oldest sister. Mona was killed along with her granddaughter
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thanks !! Yes Im finding it interesting doing mine , seems like that most of my australian family were "interesting up intill the last generation , I will see if can find the ships surgeons notes for the matilda next as I have managed to for the Eliza for another ancestor and that was interesting . Kindest wnedy
Hi Wendy, your grandmother was my grandmother's oldest sister. Mona and her granddaughter were killed waiting for a bus on City Road, Sydney 1971. Mona's mother and father were George and Florence Slade. George's mother was Louisa Ann Slade (nee Hurley) and Louisa's mother was Anne Hurley/Kelly/Linford (nee Leaver).
Lesley
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Hi I’m looking for information on John Hurley born 1803 London died 1853 bells paddock. Married Anne Levy 1835.
I have some information but I don't have much on John.
I’m a descendant of their son John Charles Hurley born 1839 northfolk island. Married Winfred Flagagan ( GGGG grandparents).
Kind regards
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Hi Vivian,
Happy to share family history information collected on the Hurley/Leaver connection.
Lucy Hurley was my 2x great grandmother. I'm at LAWdot2591 at optusnetdotcomdotau.
I made contact with a family connection of your John Charles Hurley many years ago and we did meet up in Brisbane but since lost contact.
I live not far from Clifton if that's any help.
Lesley
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Yes please, could you please resend ur details as it didn’t display correctly.