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My 3 x Gt Grandmother was called Julia Widder Mills (maiden name). She was born in Pulman St Mary Norfolk England in 1793. I am most interested to find any Widders anywhere because I think that this name may have been given to Julia through a Widder relative or friend. I have no other Widders on my tree.
Would love to hear from you.
Sparham
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sparham
iam new to this also..
but at the top of this page you will see "search" click on that type in widder-s
brings up some
thanks john
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Apologies if you already have this Sparham,
Julia Widder MILLS was Baptised 28 July 1793, St Mary Magdalen, Pulham, Norfolk to EBENEZER/JULIA
Siblings;
HARRIET ELIZABETH, 09 Feb 1795
CHARLES ANDRE, 04 April 1796
PHILIP HENRY, 10 Jan 1798
FREDERICK ANTHONY, 09 June 1800
Ebenezer MILLS, Bachelor of Pulham St Mary Magdalen Parish, Married Mary Julia Phillipine ANDRE, Spinster, 18 October 1792, St George Colegate, Norwich, Norfolk
A John WIDDER was a Witness
(Family Friend/Godfather?)
Trish :)
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UK, Land Tax Redemption, 1798 about Jno Widder
Proprietor: John Widder
Tenant: Jno Widder
Residence: Saint George Colgate, Norfolk (City of Norwich), England
Year: 1798
Volume: 1
Also another one for 1800 on Anc. Looks like Father/Son?
A Family Tree has this;
John WIDDER Birth 1729, Mannheim, Germany
Parents, Johan Philip WIDDER and Albertina Magdalena (maiden name unknown)
Buried 1799 Norwich, Norfolk
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Hi Trish, once again thank you for your advice. My 4 x Gt Grandmother Marie Julienne Phillipine(Julia' mother) was an Andre. I mentioned her in the Andre same name in my other message to you My 5 x Gt Grandfather was Johanne Andre, a Huguenot living in Offenbach Germany (pic attached) he was a composer and Kappelmeister to the Prince of Prussia (not sure which one at the mo).
I am seriously wondering whether the Andres and Widders were friends in Germany. Oh well, next step research and a post on the Europe section.
John, thank you so much for your tip
Sparham
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As there seem to be connections between the ANDRE and the WIDDER families, I'm cross-linking these topics:
Topic: ANDRE - all dates
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,628791.0.html
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Result, I have found the Widder connection. My 6th time great grandmother Albertina Magdalena (maiden name unknown) married Johann Phillip Widder married about 1728.. He had a son John Widder born abt 1729 in Mannheim Germany. My 6th time great grandfather is her other husband, Philip Lorenz Schmaltz b 1693 in Mannheim. He and Albertina married in 1737 and he died in 1771. Marie, daughter of Albertina and Phillip, for some reason named my 3 x Gt Grandmother Julia Widder Mills. It seemed that this connection carried on over to Norwich Norfolk as John Widder is buried there.
So now this has been completed but there are so many questions to ask which will probably pop up under different sections.
Thank you everyone for your help.
Sparham
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german Widder-meaning -> Aries ;)
http://www.hunde-poesie.de/images/cliparts/stz2-widder.gif
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Carinthiangirl - thanks for that really interesting :)
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Just in case you are interested in possible origins of the name ...
Widder can also mean 'ram' - so unless the name has been changed (gradually) over the years, it could have originated with sheep-farming ancestors.
regards,
Bob
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upps, sorry, you are right, just meant the male sheep.
but ended up with the astrology-word. :o
thought is the same (my english ohje) ;D
it happened because in german Widder is taken for ram AND aries.
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Carinthiangirl ha ha we get there in the end ;)
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Berlin Bob, thanks for the info. Fascinating stuff - I reckon that that is exactly what the Widders were - sheep farmers probably.
Sparham