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Title: Rickard Family - Frank Rickard
Post by: c_rickard on Friday 04 January 13 02:09 GMT (UK)
 :) Frank Rickard b 1895, married to Gladys Emily Gurneym 1921
Marriages Jun 1921 
Gurney  Gladys E  Rickard  Aylesbury  3a [2_]083
Rickard  Frank  Gurney  Aylesbury  3a 2083 

However the War Graves Records say he was Killed
Name Frank RICKARD   
Rank/Number Private   16981
Regiment Oxford & Bucks Light Infantry   2nd Battalion
Enlisted Oxford 
Age/Date of death 21      10 Aug 1916 
How died/Theatre of war died of wounds   France & Flanders
Residence at death Bierton 
Cemetery Bernafay Wood British Cemetery, Montauban, Somme, France 
Grave or Memorial Reference L.26 
Location of memorial Bierton

My questions are
1. Did he only get wounded and die a number of years later in England?
2. Could Gladys have had a partner and bore a couple of more children, retaining the Rickard name?

Any Help in resolving my Family Tree inconsistencies is greatly appreciated.
Chuck Rickard
Title: Re: Rickard Family - Frank Rickard
Post by: crisane on Friday 04 January 13 03:46 GMT (UK)
Well they didn't actually marry until 1921 so there must have been a minister present at the wedding to verify their details. :)
Could this be the death of the Frank born 1895
Frank Rickard
born - 10 Mar 1895
Dec 1/4  1969
Age at death 74
Registered Aylesbury Buckinghamshire
Vol 6a page 1021

I looked on the CWGC site and there isn't actually an age for F Rickards number 16981 so F may not stand for Frank and he could be any age. Which site gives his age as 21 at death?

Added: - Ah I can see his Medal Index card where everything is written in red with the name F Rickard then -Frank has been written in blue. However there is no age on this record either.
Title: Re: Rickard Family - Frank Rickard
Post by: crisane on Friday 04 January 13 04:07 GMT (UK)
From CWGC
Private F Rickard
Service Number 16981
Oxford and Bucks Light Infantry United Kingdom
Date of death 10 August 1916
Grave L26 at Bernafay Wood British Cemetery Montauban
Title: Re: Rickard Family - Frank Rickard
Post by: crisane on Friday 04 January 13 04:11 GMT (UK)
Death of Gladys?
Gladys E Rickard
Age at death 65 born about 1896
Registered Jun 1/4 1961
Registration district -Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire
Vol 6a page 273
Title: Re: Rickard Family - Frank Rickard
Post by: bucksboy on Friday 04 January 13 14:34 GMT (UK)
Well this is a strange one. ???

Both Frank Rickard & Gladys Emily Gurney were both born in Wingrave, Bucks, from what I can make out. ;)

I wonder if Frank Rickard's  WW1 death was reported in the newspapers.

There is a Joseph Rickard(son of George & Ellen), on the Wingrave WW1 war memorial, and a Raymond Rickard(son of John & Elizabeth Rickard(nee.Kirby)), on the same.

No other Rickards on the Wingrave memorials. ???

Aylesbury Memorial has a William Rickard(b.1889, Bierton) son of Robert & Ellen,  and a George A Rickard(c1895. Bierton), son of Alfred & Mary.

And, a Frederick James Rickard(son of Robert & Ellen), his wife was Jessie Maud Rickard.  Died at home, 11 July 1920.  Wifes last known address was Water House, Upper Winchenden.   Parents were at 73, Albert Street, Aylesbury.

http://www.buckinghamshireremembers.org.uk/memorials.htm


There is also a medal card for a Frank Rickard - Bucks Yeomanry, Machine Gun Corps.  Service number 2406, 165786.  Private.


Steve. :)
Title: Re: Rickard Family - Frank Rickard
Post by: crisane on Friday 04 January 13 20:37 GMT (UK)
Marriages Jun 1/4 1921 
Gladys E Gurney 
Frank  Rickard
Aylesbury 3a 2083

If these are definitely the correct line then the marriage certificate is needed to ascertain Frank's father's name and occupation.  Quite clearly the Frank Rickard who married in 1921 can't be the Frank Rickard killed in 1916. 
Title: Re: Rickard Family - Frank Rickard
Post by: wrjones on Friday 04 January 13 20:46 GMT (UK)
There is a Frank Rickard born in Aylesbury in 1878.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Rickard Family - Frank Rickard
Post by: c_rickard on Saturday 05 January 13 19:03 GMT (UK)

 8)
I want to thank everyone for their help in resolving my questions with respect to Which Frank Rickard married Gladys Emily Gurney.

The Frank Rickard killed in WW1, was the son of William and Thurza Rickard. In trying to sort the Franks out, I came across an interesting Site "Buckinghamshire Remembers"
http://www.buckinghamshireremembers.org.uk/index.htm. It is trying to identifying all war dead from Buckinghamshire.  I see that Steve reference this site as well.

Back to the Franks,in 1872 Frederick Leech married Elizabeth Rickard
Marriages Sep 1872 (>99%)               
Leech   Frederick      Aylesbury   3a   741
RICKARD   Elizabeth      Aylesbury   3a   741

Elizabeth had a child Frederick born before their marriage   
Births Jun 1872 (>99%)               
Rickard   Frederick Le*ch      Aylesbury   3a   548

All Census Records refer to him as Frederick Leech
in 1892 he marries Susan Bryant
Marriages Sep 1892 (>99%)               
BRYANT   Susan      Amersham   3a   991
Rickard   Frederick Leech   Amersham   3a   991

Census records continue to to list them as Leech, however, when registering the births of their
children their Surnames are all Rickard with the middle name of Leech
Births Mar 1898 (>99%)                  
Rickard   Frank Leech   Amersham   3a   713

I believe this is the Frank Rickard who married Gladys Emily Gurney in 1921 Final proof  will take a copy of their marriage certificate.

Once again thanks to everyone for their clues and assistance. :)

Chuck
Title: Re: Rickard Family - Frank Rickard
Post by: ptdrifter on Thursday 31 January 13 20:25 GMT (UK)
Sorry to butt in but do you know if the Rickard family in Bucks have any connection with the Rickard families in Cornwall?
My paternal 2nd grt grandfather from Aston Abbotts, maried a Jane Rickard from Dorchester whose father came from Withiel Cornwall. Cornwall and Bucks seem to be Rickard hotspots.
Title: Re: Rickard Family - Frank Rickard
Post by: c_rickard on Thursday 31 January 13 23:02 GMT (UK)
 :)There is suspicion that the first Rickards in Buckinghamshire came from Cornwall. At the moment I have identified over 1400 Rickards from Buckinghamshire and have only one who has moved to Cornwall. Have a number of indirect Rickards, Rickard women who married have descendants who moved to Cornwall.

I am currently trying to identify all Rickards from Buckinghamshire and how they tie into my family tree.

Should you find any connects I would be very interested.
Chuck Rickard
Title: Re: Rickard Family - Frank Rickard
Post by: Country Lad on Sunday 14 April 13 07:48 BST (UK)
Greetings :D
A mammoth job looking at all of the family in Buckinghamshire.  I am doing a similar project in Cornwall where I know family members lived.   It is unlikely that you will be able to go back far enough with the official records in order to identify ancestors in Cornwall.   What I can add is that after 10 years of research I can confidently suggest that the origins of the "Rickard" name can be traced back to the Norwegian Vikings.   Briefly, these tribes brought the name or an very early version of it to Ireland in the early 800s.   They established Dublin in 850 and thereafter traded and raided the west coast of England and Cornwall.   The name is likely to have come to Cornwall around the early 900's.   Surnames crept into use in the 1300s so it was probably a first name in the early years.   The spelling variations in the early records run to about 15.
Many people ask why "Rickard" and not "Richard".   The Danish Vikings brought the name from the same origin south along the west coast of Europe.   The languages in use (basically those south of Germany) could not handle the heavy 'ck' accent so it became softened to Reechard and then Richard.   We can blame William the C for instilling the Richard version in the rest of the UK.
Title: Re: Rickard Family - Frank Rickard
Post by: EmMatt on Saturday 30 January 21 10:49 GMT (UK)
Hi Chuck, I recognise your name from myheritage and having uploaded so much rickard history on there. Well done you. It is my husband who comes from rickard family and because of your family tree we have learnt so much tracing back to 1500s. He belongs to the four generations of Lawrence rickards. I am not sure where you fit into the tree?