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Hello looking for a marriage and births etc between
Bride Ruffell
Groom Hayden
All I know is they had a daughter Eileen Jennie Hayden in 1916 in West Ham trying to tace the family back abit from here as Eileen married my ancestor Victor Maisey.
Thank you.
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Marriages Dec 1907
HAYDEN, Frederick William GRO District of W. Ham Volume 4a, Page 212
RUFFELL, Rose Jane
early family in West Ham, 7 Kent St, Plaistow, Essex
Frederick William Hayden age 34 Dock Labourer born Plaistow
Rose Jane Hayden 28 born Plaistow
Rose Jane Hayden 3
Annie Ivy Hayden 1
Violet Florence Hayden 3 months
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Thank you.
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Is this from a census? What date would help trace births.
Thank you.
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Sorry just realised they married so after 1907 :).
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Fred 1879 and Rose 1883.
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Fred was born in 1877! ;D
1891 census; RG12, Piece 566, Folio 137, Page 25
Aldershot, Hampshire
Hayden, Frederick William M 15 Private Infantry b Plaistow
also
Hayden, John M 19 Drummer b Plaistow
2nd Battalion, Leinster Regiment based at South Camp, Aldershot
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DRUMMER???
Thank you very much.
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1877 in 1891, 1879 in 1901 - keep going back !
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1881 census: RG11, 1709, 107, 31
7 Nut Tree Grove, Plaistow, West Ham
Hayden, John Head M 34 Stoker b Plaistow
Hayden, Anne WIfe F 30 b Ireland
Hayden, Anne Daughter F 13 Scholar b Ireland
Hayden, John Son M 10 Scholar b Plaistow
Hayden, Charles Son M 8 Scholar b Plaistow
Hayden, Frederick Son M 5 Scholar b Plaistow (so born c1876?! ;D)
Hayden, Louisa Daughter F 3 Scholar b Plaistow
Hayden, Albert Son M 2 Scholar b Plaistow
Hayden, Alfred Son M 3 months b Plaistow
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WW1 PENSION records ...
Name:
Frederick William Hayden
Estimated Birth Year of 1876
Plaistow
Document Year is 1890
Enlisted number 2713
Regiment was Leicestershire Regiment
Death Cert is filed with papers daughter A I Hayden present at death - 1939 West Ham, a GPO Postman.
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He was 14!!!
My great grandfather on another line was born at shorncliffe camp small world!
Thank you so much.
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Regiment was Leicestershire Regiment
I double checked the front page of the 1891 census.
Name: 2nd Bn. The Leinster Regiment
Infantry
;D ???
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take it up with the Ancestry transcribers .... :P
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He was 14!!!
My great grandfather on another line was born at shorncliffe camp small world!
Thank you so much.
Yes, looks like he was in the Boer War ....
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Thank you both very much.
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Just looked at the original Attestation papers - it definitely says The Leinster Regiment!
Thought I was getting senile for a while, then!! ;D
Home service, 19th May 1890 to 8th November 1894
Malta, 9th November 1894 to 14th November 1895
Bermuda, 15th November 1895 to 19th October 1897
Canada, 20th October 1897 to 5th May 1898
West Indies, 6th May 1898
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Thank you very much. :)
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Hi there,
The drummer referred to in the post was my grandfather. He died in 1941 and is buried in Birr Co. Offaly, Ireland. Fred, his brother was the son of John (same name as my grandfather) born 6 Dec 1846 in Plaistow Essex. John (Senior) died on Feb 1921 in Leytensone. He married Ann McEvoy about 1868 in Kilkenny Ireland.
Ann McEvoy was born about 1851 in Ireland. She died 1910 in Finchley, London.
John (Senior)'s father was Charles Haiden (spelling in 1851). Charles was born in 1816 in Essex. He died about 1860. He married Elizabeth Jales about 1840.
Elizabeth Jales was born in 1816 in Plaistow. Charles was a stoker ie stoked fuel into a furnace or boiler eg. on a ship. Hope this info helps. My name is Pat Hayden. Frederick was my grand uncle.
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Frederick William Hayden b 4.3.1876 d 18.4.1939
m 25.12.1907 Rose Jane Ruffell b 13.7.1889 d 22.10.1951
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1881 census: RG11, 1709, 107, 31
7 Nut Tree Grove, Plaistow, West Ham
Hayden, John Head M 34 Stoker b Plaistow
Hayden, Anne WIfe F 30 b Ireland
Hayden, Anne Daughter F 13 Scholar b Ireland
Hayden, John Son M 10 Scholar b Plaistow
Hayden, Charles Son M 8 Scholar b Plaistow
Hayden, Frederick Son M 5 Scholar b Plaistow (so born c1876?! ;D)
Hayden, Louisa Daughter F 3 Scholar b Plaistow
Hayden, Albert Son M 2 Scholar b Plaistow
Hayden, Alfred Son M 3 months b Plaistow
Hi, the Albert on here is my Great grand father. Think we nee to talk .........
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Thank you both very much.
At least three of the brothers were ion Boar war.
The presumption of why the Leinster regiment......
Their mother Annie McEvoy was Irish.
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Thank you both very much.
At least three of the brothers were ion Boar war.
The presumption of why the Leinster regiment......
Their mother Annie McEvoy was Irish.
Ummm . . . . that would be Boer War?! ;D
(Boer is Afrikaans/Dutch for farmer ;) )
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Thank you both very much.
At least three of the brothers were ion Boar war.
The presumption of why the Leinster regiment......
Their mother Annie McEvoy was Irish.
Yes, spelling not my strong point.
My g grandfather Albert Hayden was in Boer War with Leinster Regiment
Ummm . . . . that would be Boer War?! ;D
(Boer is Afrikaans/Dutch for farmer ;) )
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Having found some old army books and my fathers birth certificate which identified his mothers maiden name, I have started to investigate my roots. My father was Stanley Charles Hayden, one of 11? siblings of Frederick Hayden and Rose Ruffell. Interested to find out anything more from others. I have collected more information also.
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HAYDENCC. Do we know each other??
Anyway interested to know about the birth cert and books you found, please give more detail.
TERRY
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Still a novice to geneology, my father was Stanley Charles Hayden born in 1919, only identified one relative with a similar username and they were born in Aylesbury in the 1950s. Could it be you?