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Title: Local knowledge of Dawley/Stirchley
Post by: stain3565 on Friday 11 January 13 16:02 GMT (UK)
I have a birth certificate for a person born in the Dawley area in the link below:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61801163/BUMFORD%2C%20Richard%2C%20Birth%20Certificate%2C%201843.jpg

I know that in later censuses, he states his birthplace as Stirchley. However, it does not look like Stirchley on the certificate, more like Hinkshay. I found refernces to a Hinkshay in Shropshire but no modern reference. Can anyone tell me where this was in relationship to Stirchley please? Any relevant maps from the 19th century would be brilliant.

P.S. How does this relate to Hinkshay Row, another address that crops up in my tree?

Cheers
Title: Re: Local knowledge of Dawley/Stirchley
Post by: Gadget on Friday 11 January 13 16:32 GMT (UK)
Hi

Hinkshay and Stirchley are pretty close - Stirchley is just to the SE of Hinkshay. See map:

 http://www.rootschat.com/links/0smq/

Not sure about Hinkshay Row - will see if I can find anything.


brevitas
Title: Re: Local knowledge of Dawley/Stirchley
Post by: Gadget on Friday 11 January 13 16:49 GMT (UK)
If it's any help, in 1881, Hinkshay Rows is part of Dawley, ED 2:

All that part of the Civil Parish of Great Dawley which lies to the East of the Raod leading from the Aquaduct commencing at Gough's Cottage up the Finger Lane to Thomas Brays, from there to the top of Hinkshay Rows, bounded by Stirchley Parish, including Lewis's Houses, Wolgars Fold, Langley Row, New Row, Stone Row, White Hart, double & single Rows at Hinkshay, Cottages by Stirchley Chapel and Hazel Cottages.

Hinkshay Rows are enumerated just after  Hinkshay Stone Rows and White Hart  and start at RG11/2635/24/11


brevitas
Title: Re: Local knowledge of Dawley/Stirchley
Post by: Gadget on Friday 11 January 13 17:00 GMT (UK)
Not sure if you've seen this:

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=18088

and the enlarged map:

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/image.aspx?compid=18088&filename=fig11.gif&pubid=65

and these:

http://www.dawleyheritage.co.uk/unpublished-articles/354/dawley-s-history-by-p-sherry

http://cbsconservation.co.uk/projects/stirchley_furnaces/

which mention the Rows



brevitas
Title: Re: Local knowledge of Dawley/Stirchley
Post by: hillwalkersue on Tuesday 22 January 13 13:51 GMT (UK)
There were 3 'Rows' at Hinkshay - Ladies Row (also known as New Row), Double Row & Single Row.

Many of my ancestors lived there & my Nan was the last person to leave Ladies Row before their demolition - I spent many hours there as a child/teenager.

Stirchley was a very short walk from Hinkshay (Hinkshay today is on the edge of the Telford Town park) and Dawley.
Title: Re: Local knowledge of Dawley/Stirchley
Post by: hillwalkersue on Tuesday 22 January 13 13:52 GMT (UK)
Who was your ancestor from Hinkshay??
Title: Re: Local knowledge of Dawley/Stirchley
Post by: stain3565 on Tuesday 22 January 13 15:03 GMT (UK)
These are ancestors of my brother-in-law.

There is a link in the original message to the birth certificate of Richard Bumford, the ancestor in question.
Title: Re: Local knowledge of Dawley/Stirchley
Post by: dontheturner on Saturday 02 February 13 15:09 GMT (UK)
I have a birth certificate for a person born in the Dawley area in the link below:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61801163/BUMFORD%2C%20Richard%2C%20Birth%20Certificate%2C%201843.jpg
I know that in later censuses, he states his birthplace as Stirchley. However, it does not look like Stirchley on the certificate, more like Hinkshay. I found refernces to a Hinkshay in Shropshire but no modern reference. Can anyone tell me where this was in relationship to Stirchley please? Any relevant maps from the 19th century would be brilliant.
P.S. How does this relate to Hinkshay Row, another address that crops up in my tree?
Hello Stain.  Hinkshay Row, was opposite the Stirchley Iron Works, and is clearly shown, on the Alan Godfrey maps of 1901 (reproduction, Sheet Number 43.07), and are available from them @£2.50 each on Ebay.  Don
Cheers
Title: Re: Local knowledge of Dawley/Stirchley
Post by: dontheturner on Tuesday 05 February 13 15:06 GMT (UK)
I have a birth certificate for a person born in the Dawley area in the link below:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61801163/BUMFORD%2C%20Richard%2C%20Birth%20Certificate%2C%201843.jpg
P.S. How does this relate to Hinkshay Row, another address that crops up in my tree?
Hello Stain.  Hinkshay Row, was opposite the Stirchley Iron Works, and is clearly shown, on the Alan Godfrey maps of 1901 (reproduction, Sheet Number 43.07), and are available from them @£2.50 each on Ebay.  Don
Cheers/quote] Since I typed the above reply to you, I bought a book off Amazon, called ''South Telford, Ironbridge Gorge, Madeley and Dawley'', and on page 34, there is an excellent quality shot of the Hinkshay Rows, in A6 size. The books, are very reasonably priced, if you want a copy.
Title: Re: Local knowledge of Dawley/Stirchley
Post by: RichardHallford on Tuesday 19 February 13 03:46 GMT (UK)
Im not sure if its of any interest, but I was actually at the site of Double Row in Hinkshay last year, where my rels lived from at least 1822 until circa 1860. They all worked in the furnaces in one capacity or the other, or the coal fields in some cases. They had 14 of a family and moved three times (census info) within Double Row. Dawley Magna is given on the census. The family name changed several times for the usual reasons, illiteracy, etc, from Alford to Allford, Halford, Hallford etc.
There is not much at Hinkshay now at all and it would be hard to recognise it as a village at all, except for the stone wall around the old battery factory and the church, which can still be seen. The White Hart pub is now a cleared site, although easily seen, and would have been a local watering hole for decades. There is at least one photo of the Double rows on the internet, just Google it.
There is also some loverly footage of the rows and church at Dark Lane (just up the road from Hinkshay) on Youtube which gives a real old worldly feel to the area.
I would be delighted to discuss the area with anyone interested or who had rels there. I have a full list of occupents of the Double Rows. Richard Hallford
Title: Re: Local knowledge of Dawley/Stirchley
Post by: dontheturner on Tuesday 19 February 13 08:40 GMT (UK)

Richard, There are distant relatives of mine by the name of Tonks, still alive and in the immediate vicinity of me, here in Telford. Vic Tonks, is indeed a local councillor, and a very nice approachable guy. He also has a sister in law around.
Title: Re: Local knowledge of Dawley/Stirchley
Post by: RichardHallford on Monday 04 March 13 02:18 GMT (UK)
Great to hear from you and thanks for the reply. Very interesting news. I have information that leads me to believe that there was a double wedding between my ancestors Allford/Hallford and two Tonks. Some of them moved up to Scotland, along with the Steventons as a sort of practical alliance. Im happy to send you a tree around the Tonks line if its any help to get further conversations going. I have the usual Census certs etc for those who are interested. Regards, Richard.