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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Kent Lookup Requests => Kent => England => Kent Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: wrjones on Sunday 13 January 13 10:04 GMT (UK)
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I'm curious to know about the marriage of a Harry Harris and an Elizabeth Maria Black which took place in the Faversham District of Kent in 1897.
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William Russell Jones.
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Curious in what respect? You could order the marriage certificate to get more details :)
Sep 1897
Faversham 2a 1604
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There's a family tree which has her marrying the other groom in Faversham 1897!
Charles Shuttle.
The other bride was Ellen Frances Pepper.
I think those pairing are correct as Harris/Pepper have children under both surnames. Ellen must have had a couple of Pepper children before she married Harry.
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You can check which groom married which bride using
http://extranet3.kent.gov.uk/sp/rois/marriagesearch.cfm#
enter the details of each one and you can check which ones have the same entry number.
You should also be able to find them together in the 1901 cesus.
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Many thanks for your replies,it seems that the Elizabeth Maria was born locally according to the 1901.So it seems another false trail!
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William Russell Jones.
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Who are you actually looking for William?
Casalguidi :)
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Thanks,I am looking for further info of a "Lizzie" Maria Black born in Manchester in 1862.It was very speculative!
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Could she not be the Lizzie Maria BLACK, spinster, age 58 who died in 1923 Prestwich registration district http://freebmd.rootsweb.com ???
I can only see the one Lizzie M(aria) BLACK in the Manchester area in the census 1871-1911 .......... her age just varies by a year or two
Casalguidi :)
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Thanks,I'm only finding her on Ancestry up to 1881.
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William Russell Jones.
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1891 RG12 3269 folio 75 page 38 ............. Lizzie BLACK born Hulme Manchester age 26
1901 RG13 3773 folio 141 page 23 .......... Lizzie M BLACK born Manchester age 34
1911 Lizzie BLACK age 46 born Manchester http://www.familysearch.org
If you have access to ancestry, you should be able to find a will/probate listing for a Lizzie Maria BLACK died 1923.
Casalguidi :)
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Thanks for the entries.You've left me plenty to chase up!
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Hi William, did you find any further information on Lizzie? I'm asking because a few years back I purchased the 1911 census for my old family home in Longsight Manchester and that sent me off on more research around my old street. Across the road from the family home was 'Alberts Corner Store' on the corner of Longden Road in Longsight. The shop has been there since the street was built circa 1901. Albert ran the shop from the mid 1960s until the late 1970s. The 1911 census states that the shop owner was a Susannah Doyle, a widower, but more interesting was she lived with a Lizzie Maria Black. Susannah was on the census as shop keeper and Lizzie as assistant, Susannah as head of house and Lizzie as 'friend'. Very curious as to two ladies living together at the time in 1911. Your research shows Lizzie married in 1897, single in 1911. Any further information gratefully received.
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Hi William, did you find any further information on Lizzie? I'm asking because a few years back I purchased the 1911 census for my old family home in Longsight Manchester and that sent me off on more research around my old street. Across the road from the family home was 'Alberts Corner Store' on the corner of Longden Road in Longsight. The shop has been there since the street was built circa 1901. Albert ran the shop from the mid 1960s until the late 1970s. The 1911 census states that the shop owner was a Susannah Doyle, a widower, but more interesting was she lived with a Lizzie Maria Black. Susannah was on the census as shop keeper and Lizzie as assistant, Susannah as head of house and Lizzie as 'friend'. Very curious as to two ladies living together at the time in 1911. Your research shows Lizzie married in 1897, single in 1911. Any further information gratefully received.
Thanks,its interesting that Lizzie Maria Black died in 1923.Her Probate record shows she left quite a considerable sum of money to Susannah Doyle.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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The house she passed away at, quite a nice one. She lead a colourful life it seems. Possible marriage but died a spinster with a nice amount of money in the bank for that time. I wonder what happened to her relationship with Susannah at the shop? The shop is in Longsight, the house is in Blackley, so I doubt very much she travelled there and back to work in it unless the tram system of 1911 was so efficient one could get on in North Manchester and be in South Manchester ready for work early in the morning. I do wish the census for 1921, 31 and 51 were released early! These are important documents for piecing together history!
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The house she passed away at, quite a nice one. She lead a colourful life it seems. Possible marriage but died a spinster with a nice amount of money in the bank for that time. I wonder what happened to her relationship with Susannah at the shop? The shop is in Longsight, the house is in Blackley, so I doubt very much she travelled there and back to work in it unless the tram system of 1911 was so efficient one could get on in North Manchester and be in South Manchester ready for work early in the morning. I do wish the census for 1921, 31 and 51 were released early! These are important documents for piecing together history!
the Black family were very comfortably off for the time.
Regards
William Russell Jones.