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I'm hoping someone might be able to help me find a new lead for my grandmother's side of the family tree. Jane Anderson married James Wylie in McQuiston Memorial Presbyterian Church, Belfast in 1894 when she was 19. She was living in the Castlereagh Road area at the time and her father is listed as William Anderson, a grocer.
On further investigation I know Jane's mother was also called Jane as she was living with her daughter and son-in-law on both the 1901 and 1911 census, listed as married in the former and widowed in the latter (presumably her husband died somewhere in the intervening years, though I have been unable to find him on the 1901 census). Jane is buried with her daughter and a granddaughter, Jane Anderson Wylie, who died in infancy, in the Wylie family plot in Belfast.
From there I was able to track back to a birth record of my grandmother being born on 5th March 1875 to William Anderson and Jane Anderson Anderson, so (again presumably) her mother was an Anderson before she married. There does appear to be a wedding record for a William John Anderson, a confectioner, who married a Jane Anderson in 1869 which is a very strong possibility but as of yet unconfirmed. My grandfather James Wylie was also listed as a grocer on his wedding cert and by 1901 is a bread server, so it may have been that their occupations changed with the times.
So, beyond being able to add that my father had a cousin called John Anderson in the States when he travelled across in the 1920's, that is the sum total of my knowledge and I really have no idea where to go from here. I was born when my father was in his sixties so never thought to ask any of these questions before he died but can tell you his brothers had Charles, Waddell and Robert as part of their names which don't seem to come from the Wylie side of the family. The same goes for my father, who was Albert Alexander, neither of which appear in the consistantly repetitive naming of children in that line going right back to the late eighteenth century. I know sometimes names help, sometimes they don't, but thought I would mention it just in case. If anyone can point me in the right direction or offer some advice about what to do next, I would be deeply grateful.
Many thanks,
Trish
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Hi,
In the 1869 marriage the father of William John was Richard and the father of Jane was William.
Regards
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In the 1869 marriage the father of William John was Richard and the father of Jane was William.
This is more likely to be correct- https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGFW-JLL
24 Dec.1865 Belfast William Anderson, son of John, to Jane Anderson, daughter of Richard Anderson
There seem to be several William Anderson/Jane Andersons having children in Belfast area at the same time.
May have found a few bits and pieces but haven't finished checking everything yet.
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Thank you so VERY MUCH! I literally have been banging my head against a wall with this one for two years. You have NO IDEA how lifting it is to think there might be a crack of light at the end of what has been an extremely long tunnel.
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Do you have a street number for the Castlereagh Rd. address?
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Do you have a street number for the Castlereagh Rd. address?
I'm afraid not. Just Castlereagh Road for the bride and Bloomfield Avenue for the groom. By the 1901 census Jane, her husband, three sons and Jane's mother are at 20 Windsor Road, not that it probably helps any. :(
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Still working on this but I think you can forget the 1869 marriage for William John and Jane.
In 1901 directory "Anderson, W. J., confectioner, 155, Cromac Street" http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/ccomplete1901_1.htm
1901- census- www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Windsor_Ward/Cromac_Street/975332
1910 directory "Anderson, Jane, confectioner, 155 Cromac Street" http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1910ab.htm
1911 census- www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Windsor_Ward/Cromac_Street__part_of_/187286
PRONI Will Extracts- Anderson Jane of 155 Cromac Street and of 26 Ormeau Road both in Belfast widow died 7 April 1923 at Ormeau Road Probate Belfast 9 May to Frank Lindsay Anderson laundry manager. Effects £792 19s.
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Still working on this but I think you can forget the 1869 marriage for William John and Jane.
In 1901 directory "Anderson, W. J., confectioner, 155, Cromac Street" http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/ccomplete1901_1.htm
1901- census- www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Windsor_Ward/Cromac_Street/975332
1910 directory "Anderson, Jane, confectioner, 155 Cromac Street" http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1910ab.htm
1911 census- www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Windsor_Ward/Cromac_Street__part_of_/187286
PRONI Will Extracts- Anderson Jane of 155 Cromac Street and of 26 Ormeau Road both in Belfast widow died 7 April 1923 at Ormeau Road Probate Belfast 9 May to Frank Lindsay Anderson laundry manager. Effects £792 19s.
Oh my goodness! :o How did you get all that so fast?! I've been scouring those directories for months on end! Thank you SO MUCH!!! Am now off to gleefully follow the new lead. :)
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Lots of practice :)
Now onto your father-
8 July 1923 "Celtic" arrived N.Y. from Liverpool- Albert Wylie, 23, born Belfast, father J Wylie 59 Edinburgh St., 5'5" fair complexion fair hair blue eyes, going to cousin John Anderson Oakmont Pittsburgh Pennsylvania (641 Albany written in)
19 Aug.1924 "Mauretania" arrived Southampton from N.Y.- Albert Wylie, 23, student, Lisburn Rd. Belfast.
If you start a new topic on U.S. board with the above details someone might be able to find records of the cousin John Anderson. Also, be sure to include a link to this topic.
More Belfast details hopefully to follow....
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Lots of practice :)
Now onto your father-
8 July 1923 "Celtic" arrived N.Y. from Liverpool- Albert Wylie, 23, born Belfast, father J Wylie 59 Edinburgh St., 5'5" fair complexion fair hair blue eyes, going to cousin John Anderson Oakmont Pittsburgh Pennsylvania (641 Albany written in)
19 Aug.1924 "Mauretania" arrived Southampton from N.Y.- Albert Wylie, 23, student, Lisburn Rd. Belfast.
If you start a new topic on U.S. board with the above details someone might be able to find records of the cousin John Anderson. Also, be sure to include a link to this topic.
More Belfast details hopefully to follow....
This really is wonderful Aghadowey-I can't thank you enough! With my first grand neice or nephew arriving this May I would love to have a more complete tree to hand down.
The story is dad went to the States with the intention of staying there and for a while sang in a Barber Shop quartet, possibly while at college. He was summoned home when his mother became ill and to the best of my knowledge never went back to the States. The fair haired/blue-eyed/height thing were all passed down a further two generations :)
I'll pop accross to the other forum now and post the info with a link. Thanks again! Even to be able to eliminate the marriage I had for what I thought were his grandparents is a step in the right direction! I've wavered over it time and time again but it never quite seemed to 'fit'.
See here for U.S. topic: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,631598
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It says his father is Matthew Anderson. My father's youngest brother was Matthew Anderson Wylie and Matthew doesn't come from the Wylie side of the naming pool. If I can find a Matthew Anderson born in Ireland with the same parents as Jane we could have a winner!
Wonder if this is connection?
Children of William Anderson and Jane Anderson-
1. Matthew 26 Sept.1868 Co.Down https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPZW-XPV (Comber according to RosDavies site)
2. David 13 Nov.1869 Co.Down https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPNT-QJV (Saintfield according to RosDavies site)
3. Jane 5 Mar.1875 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5YP-NVB
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It says his father is Matthew Anderson. My father's youngest brother was Matthew Anderson Wylie and Matthew doesn't come from the Wylie side of the naming pool. If I can find a Matthew Anderson born in Ireland with the same parents as Jane we could have a winner!
Wonder if this is connection?
Children of William Anderson and Jane Anderson-
1. Matthew 26 Sept.1868 Co.Down https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPZW-XPV (Comber according to RosDavies site)
2. David 13 Nov.1869 Co.Down https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPNT-QJV (Saintfield according to RosDavies site)
3. Jane 5 Mar.1875 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5YP-NVB
I might have looked at him before and disgarded him. Now it would appear he's back in the running again! The Matthew in the States (IF there's a connection) is more likely to be a cousin further back since he's older. But whether or not it's wishful thinking it's starting to FEEL like we're on the right track. :) I'll go see if I can piece it together.
Have I mentioned how much I love this site?!
P.S. Now there IS a connection to the Ballygowan area of Co. Down through my dad and his youngest brother Matthew (who we knew as Andy). They had a riding school there but I always understood that they'd bought the farm rather than inherited it. I could be wrong about that. I just have this vague memory of the family talking about how these two Belfast working class lads had ended up in the country. Having said that, I don't know why it was there. If they already knew the area through family it makes sense.
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Ballygowan is good as it's not far from Saintfield and Oughley :) Have been trying to track down the earlier Co. Down connection. Going back to 1901 census Jane Anderson lists birthplace as Co.Down.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Windsor/Windsor_Road/966756
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Windsor/Edinburgh_Street/153519
Now, there's the 1865 marriage record for William Anderson to Jane Anderson with her father listed as Richard Anderson-
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGFW-JLL
Now, Richard isn't that common a first name so I started looking for that name...
"The Will of Richard Anderson late of Oughley County Down Farmer deceased who died 28 July 1880 at same place was proved at Belfast by the oaths of John Anderson of Oughley and Martin M'Minn of Killynure both in said County Farmers the Executors." Will mentions brother John. Image from Will Book at www.proni.gov.uk
Brother John- "The Will of John Anderson late of Oughley County Down Farmer who died 29 December 1889 at same place was proved at Belfast by Margaret Anderson and Sarah Anderson both of Oughley Spinsters the Executrixes." Will mentions daughters Sarah Anderson and Margaret Anderson, granddaughter Eliza Ann Anderson.
to be continued...
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"The Will of Samuel Walker Anderson late of Oughley County Down Farmer who died 17 April 1888 at same place was proved at Belfast by Isabella Anderson Widow and James M'William Farmer both of Oughley and Samuel Shaw of Carricknacessna in said County Farmer the Executors." Will mentions wife Isabella, sister Isabella, daughters Mary, Margaret, Annie & Susanna, cousin Samuel Shaw.
Samuel Walker Anderson, son of Richard, married 1866 Isabella/Bella Scott
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGDV-1VK
Children:
1. Mary Elizabeth Graham (1867) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F55V-44F
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F519-72S
2. Margaret Jane (1869) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPDY-VPV
3. William James (1870) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPB7-YWY
4. Anna Bella Shaw (1873) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FR9Q-S5Y
5. Agnes Dorothea Scott (1875) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FR3G-5JN
6. Susanna (1878) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5BY-SCQ
Now, the use of Waddell as a middle name for Robert Waddell Wylie might be a family connection (which I can't find yet) or a red herring....
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Briefly, Rev. Robert Anderson 1807-1872. Scarva St. Banbridge 1830-1872 lic Letterkenny (Co. Donegal) 1829
"Letters of Administration of the personal estate of Reverend Robert Anderson late of Banbridge County Down Presbyterian Minister deceased who died 27 February 1872 at same place were granted at Belfast to Mary Anderson of Banbridge aforesaid the Widow of said deceased."
An Ancestry tree gives his wife as Catherine Susan Nolen which is incorrect.
So far have only found 1 daughter, Mary whio married Rev. John Waddell.
"The Rev. John Waddell was born at Ballygowan in 1839/40, youngest son of James Waddell. He was minister of Anaghlone 1868-76 and of Newington Pres. Church Belfast 1876-1915. He married Mary ANDERSON, daughter of Rev. Robert Anderson above. They had 4 sons and 3 daughters, of whom 2 sons and 1 daughter died during their youth.
Two of the sons became Presbyterian ministers, the Rev. John Waddell of Fisherwick, Belfast, and the Rev. Henry Cooke Waddell who is buried here."
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/localities.britisles.ireland.dow.general/4430.1/mb.ashx
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Duncairn_Ward/Antrim_Road/956785
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Duncairn/Antrim_Road/139310/
"Probate of the Will of The Reverend John Waddell late of 9 Taunton Avenue Belfast Presbyterian Clergyman who died 1 March 1915 granted at Belfast to Mary Waddell the Widow."
Have more on Waddells which I won't post just yet as Rev. John's wife Mary Anderson may not be connected. It was not uncommon to name sons after a minister.
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It was not uncommon to name sons after a minister.
Not very helpful of them if they did.
This is AMAZING and really does seem to be bringing us back to Ballygowan again and again. The place my father and brother owned was on the Tullygarvan Road if memory serves, but I can't figure out how close that might be to Oughley. Either way I don't think from the wills that they inherited. I think it's more likely they knew the area from family visits and had their eye on the farm when it came up for sale.
I've been trying to find Jane and William's marriage on either Rootsweb or AncestryIreland to see if I could get the short version cert details and possibly some witnesses to work with but neither site seems to list it, which is disappointing. I'm not convinced of David and Samuel yet either as David simply seems to disappear into thin air and the only Samuel I found in the census was the wrong age and living with his sister Jane who is also the wrong age. I might possibly need more coffee :)
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Oughley to Tullygarvan Road is prbably only a few miles.
I've been trying to find Jane and William's marriage on either Rootsweb or AncestryIreland to see if I could get the short version cert details and possibly some witnesses to work with but neither site seems to list it, which is disappointing. I'm not convinced of David and Samuel yet either as David simply seems to disappear into thin air and the only Samuel I found in the census was the wrong age and living with his sister Jane who is also the wrong age. I might possibly need more coffee :)
Who are David and Samuel?
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Who are David and Samuel?
They're two of the names you found for me who might be possible siblings of Jane, children of William and Jane Anderson?
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Do you mean Matthew (1868) and David (1869)?
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Do you mean Matthew (1868) and David (1869)?
That's them! Not entirely convinced though. There's also an unnamed male Anderson to the same parents in Comber in Feb 1865 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5PY-Q3P) and if we're running with Jane and William marrying at the end of 1865...
Am wracking my brain for any other snippets I can remember or that might help. I know when it comes to a possible Waddell connection we did have a Presbyterian minister in the family but that was one of my dad's older brothers. There was also talk of an Uncle he would visit 'down the country' towards Omagh but that's even more vague so I think I'll stay well clear of that one.
You really have been AMAZING with all this information Aghadowey. I can't thank you enough!
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Samuel James Wylie went to Canada- would there be any family out there that might have heard stories, have photographs, etc.?
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Samuel James Wylie went to Canada- would there be any family out there that might have heard stories, have photographs, etc.?
That's the Presbyterian minister. He came home and died in Whiteabbey, I believe. I had a much older cousin Robin who had the grim task of doing the rounds when one of the family died but it's been a good 20 years since I've seen or heard from him. It's part of the difficulty of being the youngest of a generation, I'm afraid. By the time we were arriving most of my cousins were grown ups with children of their own.
Looking back at your Waddell info (I'm still playing catch-up ;) ) it's interesting that if they named another of their sons after a well known minister they managed to pick one name from each side (Anderson/Waddell) for the same child; Robert Waddell Wylie. Can you tell I'm determined to find a link there?
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Re: Waddells- would make sense that eldest son names Robert Anderson after maternal grandfather. 'Henry Cooke' is not an uncommon name for a little Presbytericn boy in the 1800s.
Will have a hoke about for that Matthew and David- no point in starting any housework today ;D
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I have justcome across this correspondence, and am a member of the Waddell family with strong connections to Ballygowan and Ouley. Interesting that your Andersons have connections to both places too.
Anderson is a common name. Reverend Robert Anderson of Banbridge was not from a County Down family but from Andersons of Inch, Co Londonderry. His daughter, Mary, married my greatgrandfather.
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Anderson is a common name. Reverend Robert Anderson of Banbridge was not from a County Down family but from Andersons of Inch, Co Londonderry. His daughter, Mary, married my greatgrandfather.
Inch is in Co. Donegal (not far from Co.Londonderry border)- Robert Anderson of Banbridge (Scarva St.) was licensed 1829 Letterkenny, became minister of Scarva Street the new church was being built c1830 and remained there until his death in 1872.
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I know quite a bit about Andersons of Inch and also the Waddells but always happy to learn more, esp. before 1800.
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Hi all!
And sorry for the long LONG gap between posts in this. My life kept getting in the way of my research.
Anyhoo, just to update this line of investigation...
Having got in contact with other family members I now know that James Wylie and his wife, Jane Anderson ran a shop in the main street of Saintfield and inherited the family farm at Tullygarvan, Ballygowan, both presumably coming from the Anderson side of the family. They ran the shop for several years and the farm then came down the line to my father Albert and his youngest brother Matthew (known to the family as Andy) who turned it into a riding school.
From further research into the fabulous hints I got here, I am fairly sure Jane's brother George Anderson and his wife Emily ran the shop before it came to my grandparents. George and Emily don't seem to have had any children. That then begs the question of what happened to David and Matthew Anderson who seem to have disappeared. Same for their sister Margaret.
Further back the strong link to Ougley, Ballygowan remains and I am wondering if this IS the farm in Ballygowan which eventually ended up on my side of the tree.
The biggest problem is still the number of Andersons there and how they all very helpfully inter-married. Richard seems to be a recurring name and there are several of them in the tree with connections to Oughley. I am also convinced there is a Waddell connection and that it may have been an aunt/uncle or cousin who married into that line which in turn prompted my grandmother to name one of her sons Robert Waddell Wylie. Her eldest son may also have been influenced by it when he became a Presbyterian minister. So, while I understand that the Rev. Robert Anderson was from Inch in Co. Donegal, I can't help but wonder if his wife Mary Anderson is the connection there. As mentioned, it was their daughter Mary who married Rev. John Waddell.
All still a bit of a maze basically! But I thought I would pop by with an update :)
MANY THANKS AGAIN to all!
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More online since you started this topic a few years ago :)
Birth: Matthew Anderson (1868) (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03423/2256113.pdf)
Birth: David Anderson (1869) (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03377/2238012.pdf)
Birth: Jane Anderson (1875) (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03117/2143255.pdf)
Other children of William Anderson & Jane Anderson-
Birth: un-named son (20 Feb.1865) (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03589/2323307.pdf)
Birth: Margaret (2 Feb.1866) (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03546/2305476.pdf)
Birth: Margaret (28 Apr.1867) (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1867/03490/2282775.pdf)
Birth: William Snowden (26 Jan.1871) (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1871/03313/2214498.pdf)
could be more...
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William Snowden Anderson 1871-1938
Grave- https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=176697337
William Snowden Anderson 1907-1949
Grave- https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=176697342
Anderson William Snowden of 229 King's Road Belfast salesman died 12 May 1949 at Royal Victoria Hospital Belfast Administration Belfast 19 October to Helen Elizabeth Joyce Anderson the widow. Effects £808 19s. 4d.
William Snowden Anderson (paint merchant) married Elizabeth Anderson
Birth: William Snowden (1907) (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01702/1675066.pdf), Whitehead, Templecorran
William Snowden Anderson, wife Elizabeth & family-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Pottinger__part_of_/Sanford_Avenue/229252
Elizabeth's daughter Maud Alexander Reid (born 1902) (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1902/01892/1735480.pdf) (buried as Maud Anderson)
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Oooooh! And just when I was about to step away from it for a day ;)
This is ALL new to me barring the birth dates of the first three. So, once again THANK YOU. Shall follow up forthwith :)
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William Snowden Anderson (snr) is coming up on my search as the child of William John Anderson and Jane Anderson. The dates fit, but I vaguely recall a William John Anderson who was a grocer or merchant in Belfast who we dismissed at one point.
Yes, in fact, here he is with his parents in 1901 with his name misspelled: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Windsor_Ward/Cromac_Street/975332
The others all seem to fit though, so YAY!
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Re connections with Anderson family, originally from Inch area, then in Co. Down
(Banbridge) Rev Robert Anderson's wife was Mary Scott. She was born about 1815, (from Banbridge I think), married 1840, died 1896 aged 81 at her daughter's house in Belfast. Mary Scott had a brother John born c.1810
Mary Anderson (daughter of Rev. Robert Anderson and Mary Scott, c.1845 - 1927) married Rev. John Waddell (1840 -1915).
Rev. Robert Anderson and Mary Scott had other children, Annie. c.1843-1865, Thomas c.1841-1861 and Margaret, c.1847 - 1860
I don't know if any of that connects with your family
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Re connections with Anderson family, originally from Inch area, then in Co. Down
(Banbridge) Rev Robert Anderson's wife was Mary Scott. She was born about 1815, (from Banbridge I think), married 1840, died 1896 aged 81 at her daughter's house in Belfast. Mary Scott had a brother John born c.1810
Mary Anderson (daughter of Rev. Robert Anderson and Mary Scott, c.1845 - 1927) married Rev. John Waddell (1840 -1915).
Rev. Robert Anderson and Mary Scott had other children, Annie. c.1843-1865, Thomas c.1841-1861 and Margaret, c.1847 - 1860
I don't know if any of that connects with your family
I have an Isabella Scott, father William Scott, who married Samuel Walker Anderson of Oughley in 1866. His father was Richard Anderson (1790-1868), so I reckon must be a generation back from my great great grandfather, Richard Anderson (1805-1880). Is any of that familiar?
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I think there were at least 3 (and possibly more) William Andersons married to Jane Andersons which does make it difficult to sort them, and their children, all out :-\ after I posted earlier I'd also come to the conclusion that William Snowden Anderson wasn't the family you are looking for.
George Anderson was mentioned earlier- wife Emily? Is this them in both 1901 and 1911?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Saintfield/Main_Street___Saintfield/1242145 grocer
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Saintfield/Main_Street/251105 farmer
If so, this is the only marriage I could find (George Anderson to Emily Gamble)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1891/10673/5889812.pdf
George Anderson, Oughley, son of George, to Emily Gamble
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I think there were at least 3 (and possibly more) William Andersons married to Jane Andersons which does make it difficult to sort them, and their children, all out :-\ after I posted earlier I'd also come to the conclusion that William Snowden Anderson wasn't the family you are looking for.
George Anderson was mentioned earlier- wife Emily? Is this them in both 1901 and 1911?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Saintfield/Main_Street___Saintfield/1242145 grocer
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Saintfield/Main_Street/251105 farmer
If so, this is the only marriage I could find (George Anderson to Emily Gamble)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1891/10673/5889812.pdf
George Anderson, Oughley, son of George, to Emily Gamble
Yes, that's the one! And by the looks of it with the Oughley connection, one of mine, though not in the direct line as I'd hoped. *sigh* An unusual forename at this point would be SO helpful.
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Just a wee update on this since it's been a while (and in case anyone else might find it useful or has more snippets of info) :)
Starting with my grandmother Jane Anderson 1875 -1951) who married James Wylie.
Her parents were William Anderson (1830 -1911) and Jane Anderson (1833 - 1924) who from what I can tell were cousins.
William's parents were John Anderson (born abt. 1808) and (another) Jane and I believe John is a brother to Richard Anderson (1805-1880) whose gravestone is in Ouley/Oughley.
Jane's (1833-1924) father, if I'm correct, was that same Richard Anderson (1805-1880)
Currently I can't go any further back than Richard and John.
Richard Anderson (1805-1880) and unknown wife had the following:
1/ Eliza Ann (1824-1879)
2/ Richard (1828-?) m. Eliza Ann (1822-1879) and had at least one child James Anderson (1857-1931) who married Jane Clarke Millen
3/ William Anderson (1830 to bef.1911) m. Jane Anderson (1833-1924) (My Line) who had sons Matthew Anderson (1868-?), David Anderson (1869-?) and daughter Jane (1875-1951)
4/ David Anderson (1836-?)
5/ John Anderson (1841-?)
6/ Isabella Anderson (1851-?)
From what I can tell the last three never married.
John Anderson (1808-?) and Jane had the following:
a/ George Anderson (1828-1821) m. Mary
b/ William Anderson (1830-1911) m. Jane Anderson (1833-1924) - my line (see 3 above)
Though obvs there may be more children in both lines I am unaware of at this point.
There is, however, another branch of what I believe is the same family, in the same graveyard. Richard Anderson (1790-1868) and his wife Eliza Shaw (1794-1871), children William John Anderson (1815-1885) m. Agnes West and then Maria Louisa Woods, Samuel Walker Anderson (1830-1888) m. Isabella Scott, James Shaw Anderson (1834-1915) m. Elizabeth Dickson.
So if anyone can untangle any more of this or point out where I may have gone wrong, as always it would be MUCH appreciated! ;)