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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Buckinghamshire => Topic started by: flateric999 on Thursday 24 January 13 18:07 GMT (UK)
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I am fairly new to all this, and am now hooked....
What started as a quick look has turned into a massive project! ::) It occured to me that all of the Wrights that where in Astwood are, probably related. So rather than look at one lineage i tried tracing back all of them to a common ancester.
There are, i have discovered, hundreds of Wrights all traced back to one couple in about 1740's.
That is unless of course i have made a massive error somewhere......
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That wouldn't surprise me in the least, as my lot are pretty much centered in Great Missenden. :)
Astwood, Bucks looks very close to the the Northants and Bedfordshire county borders, so possibly they strayed in from there.
Many families didn't move that far all those years ago, but some made the 'leap of faith' to the pastures new.
Enclosure acts were possibly the downfall of many family communities, and maybe that made them disperse to other parts of the country, or even the world.
BucksFHS have transcribed to CD, the Astwood parish registers, but I guess you know that. ;D
Good luck with your/our addiction. ;)
Steve. :)
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I realised that but havent accessed it yet. I was trying to get things to "fit" so i had an idea what or who to look for.
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I realised that but havent accessed it yet. I was trying to get things to "fit" so i had an idea what or who to look for.
Oh trust me, for £5 it'll be worth it. ;D
It may even take you back another 150 years or so, and even fuel your addiction even more. ;)
Steve. :)
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The earliest male WRIGHT marriage in Astwood is 1790 of Charles & Ann (Bason) both otp, the next is 1796 of William & Ann (Falkner) both otp. The earliest female WRIGHT marriage is in 1743 of Elizabeth Wright to George BURGE, both from North Crawley. The earliest baptisms is in 1792 children of Charles & Ann & then from 1799 children of William & Ann. The easrliest buial is in 1682 of Elizabeth Wright, the next is in 1813 child of William & Ann.
My further research finds that Charles was born 1763 in Hardmead son of Charles & Ruth but have no details of the origin of William. Charles & Ruth are the ancestors of my sister's husband.
Regards
John
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I may be able to help there...
William is Charles' brother.
Let me explain how i got there. As you rightly say, Charles was born of Charles and Ruth of Hardmead. When i searched on www.familysearch.org, i found the records for the other children. William was born in 1760 and Charles 1763. They seem to be the youngest brothers of 12 births. An earlier william born 1756 died.
Charles and Ann have children between 1790 - 1807 while William and Ann 1799 - 1816. Charles dies in 1839 which is why in 1841 ann is living alone.
When i looked at the 1841 census i found that all of the heads of families can be traced back to these two brothers.
By my calculations, and to be fair some guesswork i am related to Ruth through her son Charles' side.
When in started on this mission i got easily distracted by the names and similar dates of birth so in the end traced the family on one big tree on Ancestry. This led to the theory of the two brothers and finding Charles and ruth.
At least i hope its right anyway....
Mike
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Charles and Ruths other children where: - Mary 1747, Elizabeth 1749, Ann 1750, John 1751, Abraham 1753 ?dies as infant, Emma 1754, william 1756 ?dies as infant, Chrystal 1757, Abraham 1758, William 1760, Charles 1763, Richard 1765
The births are registered as Hardmead with is of course alongside Astwood.
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OK, so you think youve cracked it, then you go and find new people!!
These births in Astwood don't match up with what i have so far, in fact i cant find them!! Who is John??!!
William Ricket Wright christening 14 Sep 1828 Astwood, Buckingham, England
parent
John Wright, Elizabeth Wright
Sophia Wright christening 31 Mar 1816 ASTWOOD,BUCKINGHAM,ENGLAND
parent John Wright, Elizabeth
James Wright christening 10 Jul 1825 ASTWOOD,BUCKINGHAM,ENGLAND
parent John Wright, Elizabeth
Hanah Wright christening 07 Jun 1818 ASTWOOD,BUCKINGHAM,ENGLAND
parent John Wright, Elizabeth
Mike
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Hi
There is this possible in 1841
HO107 / 40 / 1 / 5 / page6
[Greenwood?] Street, Aston Clinton [Aylesbury]
John Wright 60 Carpenter bic
James Wright 15 Carpenter bic
William Wright 13 Carpenter bic
Likely-looking Hannah & Sophia are living separately "in the area"
and have possible marriages 1841/sep-Hannah 1845/9-Sophia
Ray
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Yeah i saw that too, but there was also a John Dix Wright from Cranfield. He ends up in Marple in cheshire with children, who again appear Astwood born.
So John is either someone new and unrelated to the family group in Astwood or he is a family member that i have missed.
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John Wright bach otp married Elizabeth Ricket spin otp on 23 Mar 1815 at Astwood, with consent of parents (who are ????) witnesses William Bason & Sophia Ricket.
There was previously John Wright otp marriage to Elizabeth Smith otp on 22 Feb 1803, witnesses John Odell & John Hart
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There is a refereence to a William Ricket Wright born around the area too, so that makes sense.
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Regarding the John Wright. could he be a son of Abraham baptised 11/3/1758, son of Charles & Ruth. Abraham & Mary Wright baptised a son Abraham 12 Jan 1812 at Astwood. Do you know anything about them? Abraham (the son) buried Astwood age 30 on 30 May 1841 while Abraham (the father) buried Astwood 26 Mar 1835 age 74.
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This is where it gets a little complicated.....
Charles and Ruth baptise two children called Abraham the first in 1753, the second in 1758. We can presume the first child died, although i have not found the record, this was common practice.
The next Abraham is born in 1790, a child of Charles and Anne, Charles being a son of Charles and Ruth.
Then we have another Abraham born in 1812 a son of Abraham ( Born 1790) and mary.
There are i believe some missing people who may well be related to charles and Ruth, as you may have discovered yourself, its not easy to determine where charles came from.
I am currently working to prove the primary theory that Ruth and Charles where the first Wrights to settle in Astwood, and there two sons settled and the majority of the Wright members are therefore related, and also tydying up loose ends.
Mike
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Ah now thats interesting, There is a burial record for William Wright in 1834, buried in Astwood. Family search.org has three different dates, 03/08/1834 16/11/1834 and 1836.
On the search i have done there is no other information, however given the other William Wrights are still alive in 1834-36 is this burial William Rickett Wright?
So is John, in fact John Dix Wright (cranfield 1797) and is he the John who married Elisabeth Rickett?
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There is a burial record for William Wright in 1834, buried in Astwood. Family search.org has three different dates, 03/08/1834 16/11/1834 and 1836.
Astwood PR burials of William Wright
3 Aug 1834 aged 74 of Astwood
16 Nov 1834 Aged 72 of Astwood
21 Apr 1837 aged 9m son of John & Frances of Astwood
Don't which one of first two is the one baptised 1760, son of Charles & Ruth, who married Ann Falkner; and I don't who the other one is?
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Astwood PR burials of William Wright
3 Aug 1834 aged 74 of Astwood
16 Nov 1834 Aged 72 of Astwood
21 Apr 1837 aged 9m son of John & Frances of Astwood
Don't which one of first two is the one baptised 1760, son of Charles & Ruth, who married Ann Falkner; and I don't who the other one is?
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Interesting. William Rickett Wright via family search i have a death/burial of 1836. The rest of the family appear to be born away, so maybe the death of the child prompted a relocation. John Dix wright is likely to be a relation but from somewhere else in North Bucks. So far i cant link him in but he is NOT the same John we have already found in Astwood.
I found a date of 1839 for Charles son of Charles and Ruth but seem to have carelessly not noted the reference. William may well have died earlier around 1834. I can only find one William of the right age though, is it possible the two dates in 1834 are actually the same person?
Mike
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Mike
You may have this: in 1851 in Marple Cheshire there is John Wright b 1799 Cranfield, Beds & wife Elizabeth 1784 Hardmead, with daughters Sophia 1816, Hannah 1819 & Alice 1823, all born & baptised Astwood. Hannah married John Millard at Astwood on 1 June 1835, witnesses Thomas Wright & Sophia Wright. In 1861 in Marple, Debys we have John Wright age 57? most likely 67 born Cranfield, now a widower with daughter Sophia b 1816 Astwood, with 2 grandchildren Clara & Elizabeth. These clearly are the John Wright & Elizabeth Rickett who married in 1815.
Clara Ann Wright, daughter of John, married George Tite of Paulerspury, Northants on 26 Oct 1853, witnesses John Smith & Mildred Wright.
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You are right i have those : :)
I think they are likely to be linked to the wright family in Astwood, but i havent found the lnk yet.
Now Clara is interesting. The wedding you have found may well be of John and Anne's (nee wilding) daugher. She would have been Eli's sister and also had a sister called Mildred. (likely to be the witness)
Mike
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Hi Mike; I only put the Clara marriage there as I thought she may be the Clary Wright daughter of John & Elizabeth (Ricket) but now suspect she's the daughter of John & Ann (ne Wilding) as you say; as she did have a sister Mildred.
Anyway back to Clary Wright, there's a death index in June 1847 for that name in Stockport, Cheshire RD ref 19/253. That RD covers Marple, Cheshire where John & Elizabeth & the other 3 daughters were in 1851.
Back to 1841 in Glossop, Derbys; John Millard & wife Hannah & daughter Charlotte; are living next door to John & Elizabeth Wright & Sophia, Alice, Clary & James; so no mention of their last child William Ricket Wright. What makes you think he's the one the IGI has a death in 1836 ? his 2nd name Ricket is not mentioned.
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From Hardmead PR we have baptism of Elizabeth Ricket/Rickets/Rickett on 27 Oct 1789 daughter of William & Judith. They also had Sophia on 9 Jun 1799, Sarah on 17 Jul 1796, John 28 Aug 1791 & Alse (Alice) on 30 May 1802. William Ricket married Judith Glidel (possibly Glidwell) at Hardmead on 7 Oct 1787.
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Thats pretty much what i came up with too, i havent really followed Rickett line all that far. William Rickett Wright seems to disappear as i cant find a definite hit for him on any cencus data. I did find the burials and am working on the theory that William died as a child mainly by trying to cross reference all the Williams alive in astwood with the dates of burials which gave me thre likely candidates, William Rickett Wright being one of them.. The family may have moved away afterwards, but i havent proved it.
The other aspect i cant find is John doesnt appear directly related to the established Wright families in Astwood. He may also have been christened "John Dix Wright" but its a struggle proving this too. Its a very popular surname in North Bucks even as far back as 1600 so trying to work out which ones are are related and which are not is proving difficult.
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It'll be good to see the marriage at Cranfield of James Wright to Hannah Dix in 1795 to see if tells us more. Burial at Cranfield of James Wright age 73 on 5/1/1837 & burial of Hannah Wright on 2/2/1808
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From Cranfield PR marriages.... James Wright to Hannah Dix on 5 Feb 1795 entry has no further details; however... after burial of Hannah, wife of James Wright, labourer on 2 Feb 1808 James marries again, but not in Cranfield.... but the banns are recorded. Dated 20 Aug 1809 James Wright of North Crawley, widower to Elizabeth Barrett.
Baptisms at Cranfield, children of James & Hannah Wright, labourer
25 Dec 1795 James
2 Jul 1797 John Dix
8 Dec 1799 Elizabeth
13 Feb 1803 Thomas
Previously, marriage on 9 Mar 1774, William Wright, sojourner of North Crawley to Sarah Cook
However James Wright buried 1837 age 73, so born 1764, cannot be son of William & Sarah.
So it looks like the Wrights of Cranfield were from North Crawley
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Great find John,
My Astwood lot are from Stoke Goldington, but it is very difficult to go much further back than Charles/Ruth due to the lack of clear records and sheer numbers!!
I have found records dating back to 1593 in Stoke Goldington. There are significant numbers even this far back, so its enevitable that the family will have moved around North bucks.
Who knows, maybe they are all related but as far as i can tell, proving it will take hours of trawling each parish record for each settlement and trying to match up the names :-)