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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Roxburghshire => Topic started by: Tom Langley on Monday 28 January 13 13:39 GMT (UK)
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I am a distant cousin of the poet William Knox who was born in Lilliesleaf rox. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Knox_(Scottish_poet)
Ive seen write ups which say he is or probably is a descendent of John Knox the reformer? Is there any way of proving this?
From what ive seen John Knox' sons had no issue.
Tom
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Tom, I've heard somewhere that the Baillie's of Jerviswood were descended from Knox.
Skoosh.
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Id not heard of this before, just looked it up on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baillie_of_Jerviswood. Interesting read.
Tom
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Here is the entry from Lilliesleaf cemetery which may assist you.
157 WILLIAM KNOX , 1st son to THOMAS KNOX and BARBARA TURNBULL wife of Firth author of “The songs of Israel” “The Harp of Zion” etc born Firth, Lilliesleaf 17th August 1789 died Edinburgh 12th November 1825 buried East Calton Burying Ground Edinburgh.
nb Firth is the farm outside Lilliesleaf.
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That's very helpful!! Are there many other Knoxs listed?
Tom
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Yes there are several Knox listed.You can get a CD now.
alan
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I may well do this thank you! Could I ask is there a William and Janet Knox listed. I'm not sure when they died but they would have been born c1725. These are Williams grandparents
Tom
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Tom thecemetery has been recorded but i dont know if the Cd is ready yet from BordersFHS the details I have are from a previous recording and have added them below. I also found n Esther Know wife of Mr Smail.
29 Obelisk. WILLIAM KNOX ,tenant Newhouse, died 25th February 17(9)(6) aged 7(4)yrs JANET SMAIL, wife died 10th April 1791 aged 60yrs 2 children died in infancy. JOHN KNOX, tenant Faldonside died 26th January 1832 aged 68yrs JANET SCOTT, wife died 12th August 1836 aged 58yrs WILLIAM, JEAN KNOX grandchildren died in infancy.
30 WILLIAM KNOX, tenant Belches died 7th October 1825 aged 63yrs MARGARET HUME wife died 26th July 1859 aged 91yrs ROBERT KNOX died 2(1) December 1816 aged 16yrs MARGARET KNOX died 12th April 1816 aged 12yrs BARBARA KNOX died June 1808 aged 6 yrs. 3 children died in infancy.
Obverse. ANDREW KNOX, tenant Newhouse died February 1768 aged 77yrs MARGARET KIRKWOOD wife died July 1768 aged 74yrs ANDREW KNOX, tenant Mainhill, died 23rd September 1830 aged 73yrs MARGARET RIVE, wife.
31 WILLIAM KNOX, tenant Dunstone Moor died September 1777 aged 44yrs MARGARET CAIRNS wife died July 1772 aged 34yrs JAMES KNOX, brother died October 1805 aged 78yrs.
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That brilliant! Thank you very much. You've helped me knock down the brickwall of getting back another generation.
On the first grave, do you think the grandchildren that died in infancy are william and janets grandchildren or John and Janet?
Tom
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Difficult to tell
Alan
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Hello, was that all the Knox's listed may i ask? You dont by chance have the Ashkirk grave inscriptions do you?
Thanks again,
Tom
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No
alan
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No to which question?
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I have just found this http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/charles-rogers/genealogical-memoirs-of-john-knox-and-of-the-family-of-knox-ego/page-12-genealogical-memoirs-of-john-knox-and-of-the-family-of-knox-ego.shtml
It says william is descended from a branch of knoxs which settled in Berwickshire in the 16th century. Only it doesnt seem to name the people
Tom
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Yes that was all the Knoxs in Lilliesleaf. I can supply Ashkirk Cd It costs £10 through me at Selkirkshireantiquariansociety.co.uk.i have transcribed almost all the local cemeteries including Ashkirk,Selkirk(3)Ettrick Yarrow Kirkhope Hobkirk and Southdean.
alan
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Can i pay online for that?
Tom
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Send me a PM plse.Its easier by cheque to the Society
alan
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I'm finding this all really interesting as I've traced my ancestor James Knox back to roughly this area in 1798, so I'm wondering whether a lot of the Knox's in that area are going to end up related.
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Hello! Where was he from exactly? I expect the do all join up eventually
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Flodden near Coldstream, so 30 miles away from the area you are searching in, but considering over a couple of generations they'd moved 25 miles in order to take up Blacksmith positions, I wouldn't say it's outside the realms of possibility that if I go back a generation or two that they will end up joining up with the Knox's of the Selkirk area. What I've been surprised by is that Knox actually wasn't that common a name in the Northumberland/Borders region.
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I think I have placed my James Knox's mother May Knox in Selkirk on the 1841 census, birth date around 1798. This is my first foray into family history research in Scotland, my family have been skirting around the Northumberland/Borders region for about 150 years so this is all new to me and I think I'd need to verify it before I could conclusively say.