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Title: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: Tom Langley on Monday 28 January 13 13:39 GMT (UK)
I am a distant cousin of the poet William Knox who was born in Lilliesleaf rox. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Knox_(Scottish_poet)
Ive seen write ups which say he is or probably is a descendent of John Knox the reformer? Is there any way of proving this?
From what ive seen John Knox' sons had no issue.

Tom
Title: Re: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: Skoosh on Monday 28 January 13 16:37 GMT (UK)
Tom,  I've heard somewhere that the Baillie's of Jerviswood were descended from Knox.

Skoosh.
Title: Re: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: Tom Langley on Monday 28 January 13 18:32 GMT (UK)
Id not heard of this before, just looked it up on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baillie_of_Jerviswood. Interesting read.

Tom
Title: Re: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: alan14578 on Thursday 31 January 13 19:06 GMT (UK)
Here is the entry from Lilliesleaf cemetery which may assist you.
157   WILLIAM  KNOX , 1st son to  THOMAS  KNOX  and BARBARA  TURNBULL  wife of Firth author of “The songs of Israel”   “The Harp of Zion” etc  born Firth,  Lilliesleaf 17th August  1789 died Edinburgh 12th November 1825 buried East Calton Burying Ground Edinburgh.

nb Firth is the farm outside Lilliesleaf.
Title: Re: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: Tom Langley on Thursday 31 January 13 23:23 GMT (UK)
That's very helpful!! Are there many other Knoxs listed?

Tom
Title: Re: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: alan14578 on Friday 01 February 13 10:01 GMT (UK)
Yes there are several Knox listed.You can get a CD now.
alan
Title: Re: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: Tom Langley on Friday 01 February 13 10:04 GMT (UK)
I may well do this thank you! Could I ask is there a William and Janet Knox listed. I'm not sure when they died but they would have been born c1725. These are Williams grandparents

Tom
Title: Re: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: alan14578 on Friday 01 February 13 14:05 GMT (UK)
Tom thecemetery has been recorded but i dont know if the Cd is ready yet from BordersFHS the details I have are from a previous recording and have added them below. I also found n Esther Know wife of Mr Smail.
29   Obelisk.  WILLIAM  KNOX ,tenant Newhouse, died 25th February 17(9)(6)  aged 7(4)yrs  JANET  SMAIL, wife died 10th April 1791 aged 60yrs 2 children died in infancy.  JOHN  KNOX,  tenant Faldonside  died 26th January 1832 aged 68yrs  JANET  SCOTT, wife died 12th August 1836 aged 58yrs  WILLIAM, JEAN  KNOX  grandchildren died in infancy. 

30    WILLIAM   KNOX, tenant  Belches died 7th October 1825 aged 63yrs  MARGARET  HUME wife died 26th July 1859 aged 91yrs  ROBERT  KNOX died 2(1) December 1816 aged 16yrs  MARGARET  KNOX died 12th April 1816 aged 12yrs  BARBARA  KNOX  died June 1808 aged 6 yrs. 3 children died in infancy.
   Obverse.  ANDREW  KNOX, tenant Newhouse died February 1768 aged 77yrs  MARGARET  KIRKWOOD  wife died July 1768 aged 74yrs  ANDREW  KNOX, tenant Mainhill, died 23rd September 1830 aged 73yrs  MARGARET  RIVE, wife.

31   WILLIAM  KNOX, tenant Dunstone Moor died September 1777 aged 44yrs  MARGARET  CAIRNS  wife died July 1772 aged 34yrs  JAMES  KNOX, brother died October 1805 aged 78yrs.


Title: Re: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: Tom Langley on Friday 01 February 13 18:41 GMT (UK)
That brilliant! Thank you very much. You've helped me knock down the brickwall of getting back another generation.
On the first grave, do you think the grandchildren that died in infancy are william and janets grandchildren or John and Janet?

Tom
Title: Re: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: alan14578 on Friday 01 February 13 18:58 GMT (UK)
Difficult to tell
Alan
Title: Re: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: Tom Langley on Saturday 02 February 13 13:28 GMT (UK)
Hello, was that all the Knox's listed may i ask? You dont by chance have the Ashkirk grave inscriptions do you?

Thanks again,
Tom
Title: Re: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: alan14578 on Saturday 02 February 13 18:01 GMT (UK)
No
alan
Title: Re: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: Tom Langley on Saturday 02 February 13 18:02 GMT (UK)
No to which question?
Title: Re: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: Tom Langley on Saturday 02 February 13 19:33 GMT (UK)
I have just found this http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/charles-rogers/genealogical-memoirs-of-john-knox-and-of-the-family-of-knox-ego/page-12-genealogical-memoirs-of-john-knox-and-of-the-family-of-knox-ego.shtml
It says william is descended from a branch of knoxs which settled in Berwickshire in the 16th century. Only it doesnt seem to name the people

Tom
Title: Re: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: alan14578 on Sunday 03 February 13 19:59 GMT (UK)
Yes that was all the Knoxs in Lilliesleaf.  I can supply Ashkirk Cd It costs £10 through me at Selkirkshireantiquariansociety.co.uk.i have transcribed almost all the local cemeteries including Ashkirk,Selkirk(3)Ettrick Yarrow Kirkhope Hobkirk and Southdean.
alan
Title: Re: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: Tom Langley on Sunday 03 February 13 20:03 GMT (UK)
Can i pay online for that?

Tom
Title: Re: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: alan14578 on Sunday 03 February 13 21:14 GMT (UK)
Send me a PM plse.Its easier by cheque to the Society
alan
Title: Re: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: christiek on Friday 01 March 13 10:01 GMT (UK)
I'm finding this all really interesting as I've traced my ancestor James Knox back to roughly this area in 1798, so I'm wondering whether a lot of the Knox's in that area are going to end up related.
Title: Re: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: Tom Langley on Friday 01 March 13 11:31 GMT (UK)
Hello! Where was he from exactly? I expect the do all join up eventually
Title: Re: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: christiek on Saturday 02 March 13 21:36 GMT (UK)
Flodden near Coldstream, so 30 miles away from the area you are searching in, but considering over a couple of generations they'd moved 25 miles in order to take up Blacksmith positions, I wouldn't say it's outside the realms of possibility that if I go back a generation or two that they will end up joining up with the Knox's of the Selkirk area. What I've been surprised by is that Knox actually wasn't that common a name in the Northumberland/Borders region.
Title: Re: William Knox (Poet) link to John Knox reformer?
Post by: christiek on Saturday 02 March 13 23:20 GMT (UK)
I think I have placed my James Knox's mother May Knox in Selkirk on the 1841 census, birth date around 1798. This is my first foray into family history research in Scotland, my family have been skirting around the Northumberland/Borders region for about 150 years so this is all new to me and I think I'd need to verify it before I could conclusively say.