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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: ballydw on Monday 04 February 13 10:57 GMT (UK)
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Willing to do lookups for Holy Rosary Church Midleton Co Cork Ireland ,give as much detail as possible.
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Thank you very much for your post offering look up's from Midleton please can you help me?
I have the following information which I got from the Canon about 7 years ago and until last week have not been able to find any further info on my family so here is what I have:-
Joseph Keating married Ellen (Helena Deasy) marriage 3 Feb 1881.
Children (info from the Canon)
Christopher 4 April 1882
Margaret 8 April 1883
Daniel 1 April 1888
Mary Ellen 6 April 1890
Joseph 20 September 1891
William 4 June 1893
Eliza 16 June 1895
Joseph (20 Sept 1891) was my gt grandfather and is the only one I have any information on:-
He married Margaret O'keeffe and they lived at the Park.
Joseph (senior) and Ellen are listed on the 1901 census at William Street Midleton living with them were Margaret (listed Maggie) and Joseph my grandfather.
In 1911 census Joseph (senior) is listed with new wife Margaret who is half his age and is listed as being married for three years, my grandfather is also there.
So first question is can you look up to see if you can find the death of Ellen and any marriage records for Joseph and his new wife Margaret no idea who she is.
Secondly the children who I have also not been able to trace until a few days ago but at this stage so cannot confirm that the death's I have found are for the correct children.
The details I came across this week are:-
Christopher Keating death 1882
William Keating death 1893
Lizzie Keating death (APR/jun) 1900
If you come across anything else all information is greatly received. I do know that Joseph and Margaret O'Keeffe are buried in the cemetery and have visited their grave.
Thank you so much for this offer living in England it makes it very difficult to do any real searching although I still have family in Midleton they interest in searching is not the same as mine.
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Hi ref your message. I have ascertained that Joseph Keating senior married in the April qtr 1908 registered in Midleton to Margaret Cahill. Vol 4 Page 345. If you wanted to get the marriage cert
www.groireland.ie I think it only costs €4 for a research cert. I will check it in any case at the Church Office.
A friend of mine was actually a Deasy before marriage, so Ellen /Helena Josephs first wife may be a relation. Cant make contact yet but hope to do so shortly. She would have a lot of knowledge.
Regards :)
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Hi ref your message. I have ascertained that Joseph Keating senior married in the April qtr 1908 registered in Midleton to Margaret Cahill. Vol 4 Page 345. If you wanted to get the marriage cert
www.groireland.ie I think it only costs €4 for a research cert. I will check it in any case at the Church Office.
A friend of mine was actually a Deasy before marriage, so Ellen /Helena Josephs first wife may be a relation. Cant make contact yet but hope to do so shortly. She would have a lot of knowledge.
Regards :)
That's fantastic thank you so much for the information already provided, regarding your friend is she Anne? if so she is related and gave me some information last time I visited her.
Once again thank you very much
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Yes she is Anne, so I wonder if you have already spoken with her, I probably will not be able to get anything new from her.
You say the only person you know about is Joseph b. 1891. Do you have anything on Daniel 1888 or Mary Ellen 1890?
The dates you give for possible deaths for Christopher 1882, William 1893, Lizzie 1900 would seem to indicate they died in infancy except Lizzie who would have been 5yrs. If you make another post on the board you will be able to use the Private Message system and we can exchange email addresses. :)
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Yes she is Anne, so I wonder if you have already spoken with her, I probably will not be able to get anything new from her.
You say the only person you know about is Joseph b. 1891. Do you have anything on Daniel 1888 or Mary Ellen 1890?
The dates you give for possible deaths for Christopher 1882, William 1893, Lizzie 1900 would seem to indicate they died in infancy except Lizzie who would have been 5yrs. If you make another post on the board you will be able to use the Private Message system and we can exchange email addresses. :)
Thank you once again ;D
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Hi
Thank you for such a kind offer. If possible, could you please look up a few baptisms for me - as far as I know they are all Midleton parish baptisms?
Mansfield Johanna 1848
Mansfield Richard 1848Mansfield Bridget 1850
Mansfield Mary 1854
Mansfield Margaret 1855
Mansfield Michael 1859
Mansfield Mary 1863
I unfortunately don't have specific dates, only the year.
Thank you once again for your offer.
regards
Malcolm
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Malcolm, do you have parents names? Presume those you listed are from the same family. Regards
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Hi
Yes I do. They were Patrick and Frances (somehow also known as Ann)
regards
Malcolm
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Hi
Thank you for such a kind offer. If possible, could you please look up a few baptisms for me - as far as I know they are all Midleton parish baptisms?
Mansfield Johanna 1848
Mansfield Richard 1848Mansfield Bridget 1850
Mansfield Mary 1854
Mansfield Margaret 1855
Mansfield Michael 1859
Mansfield Mary 1863
I unfortunately don't have specific dates, only the year.
Thank you once again for your offer.
regards
Malcolm
Hi Malcom. the following baptisms recorded in Midleton for Patrick Mansfield & Frances McCarthy.
Jeremius Mansfield. Free School Lane Midleton. 6th Feb 1853. Sponsors Gulielmus Ahern Catharina Harvey. Priest. J Fitzpatrick.
Michael Mansfield. 12th Sept 1859. Free School Lane Midleton. Sponsors Michael Ahern, Elena Sullivan. Priest C Fielding
Maria Mansfield 20th May 1863. Free School Lane Midleton. Sponsors Thomas Kiely/Maria Roche. Priest P. Foley.
MARRIAGE for Patricius Mansfield & Fanny McCarthy. 19th February 1852. Witnesses: William Kelleher/Hanora Murphy.
MARRIAGE for a Jeremiah Mansfield to Margaritta Ryan on 14th Feb 1882
This could be the above Jeremiah born in 1853.
Regards :)
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Hi
Thank you so much, you have been wonderfully helpful. This is great info for me and really helps me fill the tree in. The two marriages are indeed mine, Jeremiah Mansfield married Margaret Ryan.
Regards
Malcolm
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www.nationalarchives.ie/census
Jeremiah & family in 1901 & 1911 census are in Broomfield West Midleton Co Cork. By 1911 they had 11 children - 7 living.
If you require any further assistance let me know. Regards Frances
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Know any one who can look up kildorrery/ mitchelstown co. cork ?
Before 1850s?
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Sorry I dont. Try www.rootsireland.ie I would think they cover this area :)
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Hello and thank you for the offer.
Could you possibly look up details of the following marriage:
Timothy (O)Sullivan and Mary Crowley. Between Jan - March 1909.
And if possible the baptisms of their children:
Timothy - born c1910
Mary Bridget - born c 1911
Anne ?
Richard ?
Eileen ?
Josephine ?
Michael - born c May 1919
Many thanks for your time.
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Hello. I wonder if I might trouble you for a few more lookups? Any of the following as taken from the 1901 Census. I'm hoping to establish mother's maiden name.
SULLIVAN Michael c1883 born Farsid, Nr Rostellan
SULLIVAN John c1885 born Carrigacrump
SULLIVAN Timothy c1886 born Carrigacrump
SULLIVAN Bridget c1889 born Carrigacrump
SULLIVAN Mary Ann c1894 born Upper Mill Rd, Midleton
SULLIVAN Tom c1898 born Ballinacurra
Is it more likely that those children born in Farsid & Carrigacrump would have been Baptised at Cloyne?
Once again, many thanks for your kind help.
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Hello. I wonder if I might trouble you for a few more lookups? Any of the following as taken from the 1901 Census. I'm hoping to establish mother's maiden name.
SULLIVAN Michael c1883 born Farsid, Nr Rostellan
SULLIVAN John c1885 born Carrigacrump
SULLIVAN Timothy c1886 born Carrigacrump
SULLIVAN Bridget c1889 born Carrigacrump
SULLIVAN Mary Ann c1894 born Upper Mill Rd, Midleton
SULLIVAN Tom c1898 born Ballinacurra
Is it more likely that those children born in Farsid & Carrigacrump would have been Baptised at Cloyne? The last 2 may be Midleton
Once again, many thanks for your kind help.
What are the parents names? Would think given the area these would be Cloyne
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Hello and thank you for the offer.
Could you possibly look up details of the following marriage:
Timothy (O)Sullivan and Mary Crowley. Between Jan - March 1909.
And if possible the baptisms of their children:
Timothy - born c1910
Mary Bridget - born c 1911
Anne ?
Richard ?
Eileen ?
Josephine ?
Michael - born c May 1919
Many thanks for your time.
The following:
Marriage of Timothy Sullivan & Mary Crowley. Jan 17th 1909. Witnesses Matthew Meade, Kate Murphy. Priest William Hutch PP
Baptisms:
Timothy. 29 August 1909. Sponsors John Hartnett Annie Meade
Mary Bridget 2nd Feb 1911. Sponsors Michael Meade Mary Crowley
Anna 24 Oct 1912. Sponsors William Sullivan Nellie Crowley. Marriage 23 Oct 1930 Patrick Moreen
Richard 1st Feb 1914 Sponsors Patrick Goldspring Mary Foley
Eily 25th Oct 1915 Sponsors Edmund Roche Elizabeth Dineen
Thomas 24th Sept 1922 Churchtown. Sponsors Richard & Mary Crowley.
Couldnt see entries for Josephine & Michael will take a look again next week
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Hello. I wonder if I might trouble you for a few more lookups? Any of the following as taken from the 1901 Census. I'm hoping to establish mother's maiden name.
SULLIVAN Michael c1883 born Farsid, Nr Rostellan
SULLIVAN John c1885 born Carrigacrump
SULLIVAN Timothy c1886 born Carrigacrump
SULLIVAN Bridget c1889 born Carrigacrump
SULLIVAN Mary Ann c1894 born Upper Mill Rd, Midleton
SULLIVAN Tom c1898 born Ballinacurra
Is it more likely that those children born in Farsid & Carrigacrump would have been Baptised at Cloyne? The last 2 may be Midleton
Once again, many thanks for your kind help.
What are the parents names? Would think given the area these would be Cloyne
Their parents are Timothy Sullivan and Ann/Annie (Surname unknown).
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Timothy & Annie Sullivan are living in Midleton in 1901 & 1911. He states he was born in Limerick & she in County Meath.
When I am next at church Office will take a look & see if Mary Ann & Tom are on the registers.
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Thank you for helping , I have very little detail , and I might be grasping at straws here ? Can you please look to see if there Is any information on a Nathaniel Godson born about 1795 Cork .
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If you know Nathaniel Godson was born in Cork it probably would mean Cork City not MIDLETON which is County Cork. Have you posted previously on the Cork board seeking information?
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Hello , Thank you for the information . Yes I have posted concerning this ancestor before , but I was hoping to try a fresh approach , kind of like detective work ;D. It just seems like there is absolutely nothing out there about him or his past ? .........Some one said they thought his wife's maiden name was Hill , but I have not found proof of it yet .
Take care Melanie
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Melanie, have you looked at www.corkpastandpresent.ie In The Guys Cork Almanac 1875-76 Page 426-427 There is a John Godson Clerk Petty Sessions Conna Co Cork
John Godson a Tinsmith Fermoy Co Cork. If you browse through the different sources on the above site which includes Marriage indexes you may find something. Good luck :)
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Sorry , thats not them , By 1832 the family moved to Whitechapel England where Nathaniels oldest daughter married a Mr Lessware .
But it could be a cousin or nephew ?
Take care Melanie
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KIBBIE.
Baptisms you requested
Mary anne sullivan 20 aug 1893. Parents Timothy sullivan Anne Tiernan Sponsors David Barret & Mary Major
Thomas 1st June 1898. Tim Sullivan/Anne Tierney Sponsors: Michael Mulcahy/Ellen Sullivan
You will note different spelling of mothers surname
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Hi Ballydw.
Many thanks for your help, much appreciated.
Kind regards
Kibbie
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Hi Ballydw
I have spent some time going through that "Cork Past and Present" link , there is a lot of really great information on it . I saw a Godson spelled Godsone , something I had never seen before , very interesting . Thank you
Melanie
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Any possibilities of looking up the following marriages for me please?
Martin Keeffe Apr - Jun 1882 Middleton Volume 4 Page 369
Martin Keeffe Jul - Sep 1911 Middleton Volume 4 Page 308
Martin Keeffe Oct - Dec 1948 Middleton Volume 4 Page 291
Martin O'Keefe Oct - Dec 1914 Middleton Volume 4 Page 331
Don't know who they are or who they married at this stage, I am trying to find Martin O'keeffe and Kate (Catherine Hallisey) grave in Midleton church yard, these are my gt grandparents.
Thanks in advance
Maria
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These are Civil records and you should be able to match them up with a spouse. Because they were civil registered in Midleton not necessarily married there
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The registration district is Middletown.
Martin Keeffe Apr - Jun 1882 Middleton Volume 4 Page 369
Kate Hallissy on same page
Added- 1901 census-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Midleton/Park_North/1133986
Martin in 1911-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Middleton_Urban/William_Street/434832
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Thank you for your reply's
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KIDNEY/CLARK
My problem I am not sure what parrish John Kidney, came from, born in 1790 and wife Mary (Clark) born in 1793 belonged to, but I do know they came from Middleton Co Cork. Their son John Kidney was born in 1821. It seems I am between a "rock and a hard spot" a dead end. Please help.
thank you,
Carole Lynn
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If anyone can help it would be best to post on your Kidney topic-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,640930
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Hello,
I don't know if you can help me but i'm looking to find out more about the family of my Great Great Grandfather John Roche who was baptised July 1836 in Midleton Parish, I think his father was a Michael Roche who was a Miller and Meal and Flour Dealer in Main Street Midleton in the 19th Century. (Michael Roche is listed as a Miller on the Midleton Directory for 1875 & 1881, living in Clashduff, Midleton Rural). I believe Michael is buried in Churchtown Cemetry (next to Two Mile Inn bar) with his children Michael who died in 1842 aged 3 years and Catherine and Mary Roche but I don't know their dates of birth. I am looking to find out who was John Roche's mother/Michael Roche's wife. Also if Michael Roche had any siblings, any other children and when Michael died. Any additional information about Michael would be a great help.
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Hello,
I don't know if you can help me but i'm looking to find out more about the family of my Great Great Grandfather John Roche who was baptised July 1836 in Midleton Parish, I think his father was a Michael Roche who was a Miller and Meal and Flour Dealer in Main Street Midleton in the 19th Century. (Michael Roche is listed as a Miller on the Midleton Directory for 1875 & 1881, living in Clashduff, Midleton Rural). I believe Michael is buried in Churchtown Cemetry (next to Two Mile Inn bar) with his children Michael who died in 1842 aged 3 years and Catherine and Mary Roche but I don't know their dates of birth. I am looking to find out who was John Roche's mother/Michael Roche's wife. Also if Michael Roche had any siblings, any other children and when Michael died. Any additional information about Michael would be a great help.
Hi, ref your enquiry. You seem to have the Baptism details for John Roche - where did you acquire this? Was it from Midleton RC Church? The Records office is closed at present for Easter holiday. Perhaps you can let me know your source of the baptism then I can take a look when I next visit.
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Hello - I obtained the baptism details for John Roche by paying for it off of the Roots Ireland.ie website. The details are Date of Baptism 21 July 1836, Father: Michael Roche, Mother: Not Recorded, Sponsors: John Parker & Mary Bransfield. I was unable to find records for Catherine or Mary Roche or for the Micheal Roche who died in 1842. I only know he died in 1842 from the Family Headstone for Michael, Michael, Catherine and Mary - however no other dates or details are given.
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Baptisms to Michael Roche & Mary Ahern
John 21July 1836, Mick 2Aug 1837, Mary 6March 1841, Catherine 14March 1843, Ellen 8Sept 1844.
Family address at time of baptisms of Mary & Catherine was Mill Road, Midleton.
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Thank you very much for this information this is a huge help and much appreciated.
Would you also know if there is any record of a Marriage in Midleton for Michael Roche & Mary Ahern - I have found a record of a Michael Roche & a Mary Ahern marrying in Castletownroche in 1832 (which would explain a lot as John Roche eventually married a woman from Castletownroche and my family had a lot of connections from there) however I would like to be certain there is no record of a couple in Midleton with the same name.
Thank you again,
Alan
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Had a look for a marriage but didnt see one to match so your theory of castletownroche may be correct.
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Hello again,
Thank you for your help with my last inquiry, I was wondering if you would be able to help me with finding another ancestor from Midleton - I am looking to find information on the parents of my Great Grandmother Catherine Hayes. Catherine married Patrick Roche in Midleton on November 18th, 1894 and the marriage cert states her residence at the time of Marriage was Churchtown, Midleton. Her father was William Hayes a labourer who was deceased at the time of the marriage. in the 1901 census Catherine Roche is listed as 24 and in 1911 she is listed as 36 - so I think she was born sometime between 1875 - 1877. I would like to find a birth cert for Catherine and find out the name of her mother. If possible I would like to find if she had any siblings (I think she had brothers James and David Hayes) and also if it is possible to find a marriage cert for her parents?
Any extra information would be a great help - as the Hayes name is so common I have found it very hard to find the correct records.
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There are no Baptism records in Midleton for Catherine Hayes/Roche or any of her siblings.
No marriage record for William Hayes & wife (Margaret per 1901 census) This would indicate that the family lived somewhere else prior to taking up residence in Midleton.
There is a baptism for A WILLIAM HAYES in Midleton whether relevant or not.
14 Feb 1847. Parents Pat Hayes & Biddy (Bridget) Crowley, Mill Rd Midleton.
Sponsors Daniel Hayes, Mary Browder. Priest Thomas L Murray.
Marriage record for Catherine Hayes.
18 Nov 1894 Patrick Roche & Kate Hayes. Witnesses Charles Barry & Mary Stanton. Priest J. O Donoghue.
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Willing to do lookups for Holy Rosary Church Midleton Co Cork Ireland ,give as much detail as possible.
Hi,
If you can help with this, I would be truly grateful as this side of the family is proving to be illusive.
I know there were a number of Glavins in the Midleton area.
I'm not sure if those Glavins are my Glavins, however, I am looking for Honora Glavin, my gggrandmother. She married James Scanlon approx. 1860-64. When they married they lived in Whitechurch, Cork. Their had 8 children.
There are also Glavins in the Glenville area, but the parish records are missing, so I am trying the different pockets of Glavins in the Cork area.
Thank you, most sincerely.
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Hi Mary G. I would like to assist you in your search but unless you had firm evidence that your Honora Glavin married James Scanlon lived in the Midleton area, there wouldnt be any point in checking the church registers.
You say they lived in Whitechurch Co Cork so it more than likely they came from that area. Do you have any other information to go on. Do you have the names of their children/births etc.
Civil Registration in Ireland began in 1864 so unlikely a marriage cert available for them, only church record and you would have to have the location.
Let me know if you come up with any further information. Regards :)
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Hi Mary G. I would like to assist you in your search but unless you had firm evidence that your Honora Glavin married James Scanlon lived in the Midleton area, there wouldnt be any point in checking the church registers.
You say they lived in Whitechurch Co Cork so it more than likely they came from that area. Do you have any other information to go on. Do you have the names of their children/births etc.
Civil Registration in Ireland began in 1864 so unlikely a marriage cert available for them, only church record and you would have to have the location.
Let me know if you come up with any further information. Regards :)
Hi,
Thank you for responding to me.
I have no evidence that Honora lived in Midleton. However, as the surname Glavin is rare and there was a pocket of Glavins living in the Midleton area, I put 2 and 2 together and hoped it would stretch.
Before marriage, James Scanlon lived in the Dunbullogue area. There were 2 families of Glavins living in the Glenville area, not far away. However, the parish records for Glenville are 'lost'. So I can't check it to see if this is my Honora.
Just in case, Honora did live in Midleton, these are her children
Julia born, 1864,
James Born 1865 - 1902
John born 1869 - 1926
Michael (my grandfather) 1870 - 1946
Denis born, 1872 - 1935
Honnora born 1875 - 1945
Jeremiah born 1877 -
Timothy born 1880 - 1921.
Her children were born in Ryefield, Whitechurch and Carrige-na-Bhfear.
Honora died 1907.
The greatest reason I look towards Midleton is because in the 1901 census there are two families of Scanlons, one in Ballinahina (my family) and the exact same family is recorded as living in Poulnacurry, which is a branch, I believe, of the Midleton Glavins.
thank you for taking the time to read this. I know it is a long shot, that my Honora came from Midleton.
With this side of the family, I have hit a wall.
Thank you for any assistance or suggestions.
Mary
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Hi Mary had a look @ church registers today in Midleton. No marriage for Hanora to James scanlon.
There is a baptism recorded for a Hanora Glavin 27th Jan 1845 with parents Maurice Glavin & Abby Flanagan.
I had seen the 1901 census that you mention and it is strange that the same family is recorded at two different addresses. Regards Frances
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Hi Mary had a look @ church registers today in Midleton. No marriage for Hanora to James scanlon.
There is a baptism recorded for a Hanora Glavin 27th Jan 1845 with parents Maurice Glavin & Abby Flanagan.
I had seen the 1901 census that you mention and it is strange that the same family is recorded at two different addresses. Regards Frances
Thank you so much Frances for checking. I truly appreciate it.
I will keep in mind Hanora, that you found.
Thank you again. The search goes on.
Mary
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Hello Frances,
I was wondering if you could please do another look up for me of the Midleton Parish records - from Roots Ireland I have found that a John Roche and Catherine Parker were married in Midleton on January 26th, 1865. So far I have found from the site that they had 3 children - Michael John (b.1866), Catherine (b.1868) and John William (b.1871). Would it be possible to check if they were any other children born to these parents in Midleton?
Regards,
Alan
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Church office closed for month of July
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Hello Frances,
I was wondering if you could please do another look up for me of the Midleton Parish records - from Roots Ireland I have found that a John Roche and Catherine Parker were married in Midleton on January 26th, 1865. So far I have found from the site that they had 3 children - Michael John (b.1866), Catherine (b.1868) and John William (b.1871). Would it be possible to check if they were any other children born to these parents in Midleton?
Regards,
Alan
From Family search Ireland Births and Baptisms
some more children here.
http://tinyurl.com/qz85lyy
annclare
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Church baptism for Mary Teresa Roche 1873 St Finbarr's parish South Cork.
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/reels/cork%20%26%20ross.st.%20finbarr%27s%20south%2C%20cork.p4779.00350.pdf
annclare
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Hi, I am looking for DURHAM surname in the 1842 census of Midleton. Thank you for your offer and time. Dave Blair. Pembroke, MA
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Hi, I am looking for DURHAM surname in the 1842 census of Midleton. Thank you for your offer and time. Dave Blair. Pembroke, MA
Hi David can you be more specific with christian names and i can then check Church registars.
I did know of a family in midleton with surname but spelt DERHAM. Regards frances
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David, Frances here again - had a look at 1911 census and you are correct with the spelling of surname DURHAM - in latter years it became Derham for some reason.
www.nationalarchives.ie for the 1901 & 1911 census. Family residing @ Oatencake part of Middleton Rural. Will try to forward to you in a personal message, if it gets to u. If not you can look online yourself. Get back to me with any further requests. Rgds F
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Hi, I am looking for DURHAM surname in the 1842 census of Midleton. Thank you for your offer and time. Dave Blair. Pembroke, MA
David the DURHAM family dont appear on 1842 census of middleton. However if you contact me I have located some baptism records & also a burial place for family rgds frances
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I wonder if i may trouble re some look ups for the Durham/Derham/Deerham family from Midleton
From Rootsireland I have the following information
I have a Marriage record for John Deerham and Mary Ring .20 March 1830 witness as Joan Deerham & William Keiy.
Children baptised from the marriage were as follows.
17 Feb 1834 Catherine. sponsors John Durham & James Halarty
07 July 1839 John. Sponsors Mathew Durham & Mary Durham, Priest J Berlin
12 June 1841 John. Sponsors Cornelius Flaherty & Johanna Lynch. Priest W Keane. Mill Road
19 Aug 1843 Honora .Sponsors Patrick Durham & Mary More. Priest H Leader. Mill Road
16 Feb 1846 Mary. Sponsors David Ahearn & Mary Walsh. Priest Thomas L Murray. Mill Road
18 Oct 1848 Ellen. Sponsors John Keffe & Elizabeth McPherson. Priest Timy Murray
16 Mar 1851 Patrick, Jeremiah Mahony & Margaret Durham. Priest J Meagher. Cork Road
Interesting to note no children baptised till early 1834 but also recorded were
10 July 1830 Bridget Durham. Sponsors William Meade & Bridget Scott
05 Apr 1833 James Durham. Sponsors Richard Clarke & Elizabeth Burke
Parents listed as John Durham & Bridget Clarke
John /Mary & family went to live in Newport Wales late 1851 or early 1852 where my grandfather William Patrick Durham was born. John & Mary had both passed away in Newport by 1859. None of the children were listed in the 1861 Wales census.Dont know what became of the children may have returned to Midleton.
In the 1871 Wales Census some have reappeared in Newport. William Patrick, James,Catherine & Patrick. Also Ellen possibly in 1882/3
The Tithe Applopment Books list a John Derham at Ballyspillane in 1833.
Family Search list a John Durham born 1785 and died in 1864 in Midleton.( Could be the father of the John Deerham married on March 20 1830) Not sure if this would be listed at the Holy Rosary Church. Would you be able to check this out.
Is the Holy Rosary Church on Mill Road ? as per some ot the baptisms ?
Also any other information regarding the Durhams would be most welcome.
Thanks
John
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Hi John JD will have a look at Church registers and see what I can find & revert back to you. regards Frances :)
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Hi JohnJD
Had a look @ registers in Midleton RC
Recorded there are Marriages 1819-1899
Baptisms 1819 to present.
Marriage you mention for John Durham & Mary Ring record there 1830
All the Baptisms you mention are also there. The Baptisms for John & Mary (Ring) would have been prior to 1819.
Marriage record for John Durham & Bridget Clarke 27th Feb 1827. On the record his christian name recorded as JS.
Have you seen the 1871&1881 Wales Census for John Durham b Middleton c 1842?
There are Baptisms in midleton varying dates mostly 1820.s & 1830's but as we dont have parents for John Durham married to Mary Ring its not possible to tie them together.
Holy Rosary Church is @ Chapel Road now St Marys Road - Mill Road would have been the family address
regards frances
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Hello,
I have found Michael Roche the miller was married to a Mary Barry, the address was the Youghal road, Midleton. So far I have only found baptism record for one of their children a Patrick Roche born 08 November 1849.
Would you please be able to check if their are any records of other children baptised in Midleton parish for this couple? and also if there is a marriage record in Midleton for the couple?
Thanks,
Alan
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Thanks for the "look up re Durhams" It appears that there may have been two John Durhams.
Would it be possibe to look up Marriage for Catherine Durham & Edward Twohig 1856/57 axp and baptisms for children born Edward 1857, Mary 1859 & John 1862.
Marriage for Mary Durham & James Stack 1871
(names of sponsors/witnesses would be most helpfull.
Where would i be able to get death notice/registration for John Durham 1864 MIdleton.
Thanks,Johnjd.
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Thanks for the "look up re Durhams" It appears that there may have been two John Durhams.
Would it be possibe to look up Marriage for Catherine Durham & Edward Twohig 1856/57 axp and baptisms for children born Edward 1857, Mary 1859 & John 1862.
Marriage for Mary Durham & James Stack 1871
(names of sponsors/witnesses would be most helpfull.
Where would i be able to get death notice/registration for John Durham 1864 MIdleton.
Thanks,Johnjd.
You can obtain a photocopy of death cert for John Durham 1864 by looking at
www.groireland.ie Details are Volume 9 Page 551 Reg District MIDDLETOWN 1864
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Thanks for the "look up re Durhams" It appears that there may have been two John Durhams.
Would it be possibe to look up Marriage for Catherine Durham & Edward Twohig 1856/57 axp and baptisms for children born Edward 1857, Mary 1859 & John 1862.
Marriage for Mary Durham & James Stack 1871
(names of sponsors/witnesses would be most helpfull.
Where would i be able to get death notice/registration for John Durham 1864 MIdleton.
Thanks,Johnjd.
Hi John NO BAPTISM or MARRIAGE records in Midleton for the names requested :)
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Hello,
I have found Michael Roche the miller was married to a Mary Barry, the address was the Youghal road, Midleton. So far I have only found baptism record for one of their children a Patrick Roche born 08 November 1849.
Would you please be able to check if their are any records of other children baptised in Midleton parish for this couple? and also if there is a marriage record in Midleton for the couple?
Thanks,
Alan
No Marriage/baptism records in Midleton for names requested
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Ok, Thank you for looking.
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Hi
Thanks for the time and effort re Durhams. If David Blair is researching the family of John & Mary Durham from Midleton i may be able to help with some more information.
Cheers,
Johnjd
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Thanks for the "look up re Durhams" It appears that there may have been two John Durhams.
Hi
Thanks for the time and effort re Durhams. If David Blair is researching the family of John & Mary Durham from Midleton i may be able to help with some more information.
Cheers,
Johnjd
Thanks,Johnjd.
John you could send david a pm (private message) its probable you are researching the same family. I have sourced quiet a bit of info on the family but it depends on what you are looking for.
There is a John Durham in the Tithe Applotment books in Killeendooling midleton in 1829 The name Barry Durham is prevalent I think this is short for bartholomew. :)
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Thanks for the "look up re Durhams" It appears that there may have been two John Durhams.
Would it be possibe to look up Marriage for Catherine Durham & Edward Twohig 1856/57 axp and baptisms for children born Edward 1857, Mary 1859 & John 1862.
Marriage for Mary Durham & James Stack 1871
(names of sponsors/witnesses would be most helpfull.
Where would i be able to get death notice/registration for John Durham 1864 MIdleton.
Thanks,Johnjd.
Hi John NO BAPTISM or MARRIAGE records in Midleton for the names requested :)
Hi John the following baptism in midleton
Parents Jacobus Stack & Maria Durham. 8/9/1872 RICARDUS. Sponsors Joannes Lane & Maria Lane
Priest: Phillipus Cogan. This is the only baptism for this couple :)
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Hi,
Thank you for the time and effort re lookup for James & Mary Stack. I am looking for any information regarding the Durham family in Midleton. John Durham/Deerham born 1806 axp in Midleton who were his parents and brothers and sisters.
Bartholomew Durham i have noted in 1706 Cork wills index and 1763 (date of probate) may have been the first of the Durhams in Midleton.
Any information would be helpfull in trying to piece together the family.
When you have time can you look up a baptism for William Durham in 1860 plus sponsors etc.This is a bit of a long shot but you never know.
Thank you,
Cheers,
johnjd John Durham
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Hi,
Thank you for the time and effort re lookup for James & Mary Stack. I am looking for any information regarding the Durham family in Midleton. John Durham/Deerham born 1806 axp in Midleton who were his parents and brothers and sisters.
Bartholomew Durham i have noted in 1706 Cork wills index and 1763 (date of probate) may have been the first of the Durhams in Midleton.
Any information would be helpfull in trying to piece together the family.
When you have time can you look up a baptism for William Durham in 1860 plus sponsors etc.This is a bit of a long shot but you never know.
Thank you,
Cheers,
johnjd John Durham
Hi John, there will not be any records in midleton for John Durham b. c. 1806 as Midleton records begin in 1819. Have you looked at www.irishgenealogy.ie this covers the baptisms in some of the Cork City Churches, namely St Peter & Pauls & South Parish.
Will take a look for the William b.c. 1860. Regards, Frances :)
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Hi,
Thank you for the time and effort re lookup for James & Mary Stack. I am looking for any information regarding the Durham family in Midleton. John Durham/Deerham born 1806 axp in Midleton who were his parents and brothers and sisters.
Bartholomew Durham i have noted in 1706 Cork wills index and 1763 (date of probate) may have been the first of the Durhams in Midleton.
Any information would be helpfull in trying to piece together the family.
When you have time can you look up a baptism for William Durham in 1860 plus sponsors etc.This is a bit of a long shot but you never know.
Thank you,
Cheers,
johnjd John Durham
Hi John, there will not be any records in midleton for John Durham b. c. 1806 as Midleton records begin in 1819. Have you looked at www.irishgenealogy.ie this covers the baptisms in some of the Cork City Churches, namely St Peter & Pauls & South Parish.
Will take a look for the William b.c. 1860. Regards, Frances :)
Hi John am listing All the Durham & variation of surname 2 Marriages & various Baptisms.
MARRIAGES:
20/3/1830 - JOHN DEESHAM & MARY RING. Witnesses: Wm Keiy & Jn Deesham
20/5/1827 - RICHARD DINHAM & ELIZABETH WALSH. Witnesses: James Cashman & Cate Walton
*** BAPTISMS to JOHN DURHAM & MARY RING are listed in earlier post
Also baptisms to BARRY DURHAM & MARGARET BRIEN (May have been listed by DAVID)
WILLIAM DURHAM you enquired about:
Baptised 30/12/1860. Gulielmas Durham. Parents Patrick Durham & Marg Fitzgibbon Main St Midleton, Spons: Mich Egan & Bessy Price
Baptism to same parents 28/2/1859. JULIA. Spons Johannes Riordan & Johanna Durham
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Various DURHAM Baptisms as follows:
24/1/1824 Michael Durham. Parents:Edmd Durham & Mary Hynes . Spons: David stanton & Mary Gleeson.
19/2/1835. Pat Durham. Parents David Durham & Mary Durham. Spons: Bat Hart & Bett Fenton
12/8/1866 Emma Durham. Parents Francis G Durham & Edda Bolton Spons: Emma Bolton
10/2/1825 Michael Durham Parents Francis Durham & Ellen Durham. Spons: John Durham & Ellen Sullivan
13/2/1820. Mary Durham. Parents James Durham & Eliz Carroll Spons Mich Cronin & Ellen Moreen
7/4/1821 James Durham. Parents James Durham & Mary Power Spons: Daniel Sullivan/Ellen Connell.
26/3/1825. Mary Durham.Parents James Durham/Mary Power. Spon:John Murphy/Anstis Sullivan
15/7/1823 Richard Durham Parents James Durham/Mary Power Spons:Nich Cotte Ellen Sullivan
17/3/1828 Mary Durham.Parents John Durham/Bridget Clarke Spons:David Ahern/Norry Brien
1830 Biddy Durham. Parents """""" """"""""""" Spons:David Ahern/Norry Brien
5/4/1833 James Durham Parents ****** ******** Spons:Rich Clarke/Bess Burke
29/6/1820 Elizabeth Durham Parents Patrick Durham & Mary Glasson(think this is Gleeson)
Spons Thos Howard & Nelly Glasson
24/1/1824 Catherine Durham Parents Patrick Durham & Mary Glasson Spons: Wm Calahan & Honora Hennessy
25/12/1845. Johanna & Ellen (Twins) Parents Pat Durham & Ellen Fitzgerald
Sponsors Wm Grey & Mary Horgan to both children
* I wonder is the John Durham b, c 1806 the one maybe that married Bridget Clarke.
This is the TOTAL of entries for Durhams in Midleton Registers. Good luck trying to decipher "who is who"???? Regards Frances
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Hi,
Thanks for all the information re Durhams. As a matter of interest are there still Durhams living in the Midleton area ?
Cheers,
johnjd
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Hi,
Thanks for all the information re Durhams. As a matter of interest are there still Durhams living in the Midleton area ?
Cheers,
johnjd
The last of the Durhams a brother & 2 sisters died some years ago and were all unmarried also a durham lady who married a callaghan in midleton had a daughter & 2 sons now deceased all remained single as well. I dont know of any Durhams still living in the area.
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Hello,
I have found a record online for a James Joseph Roche baptised in Midleton on 23 Oct 1870, his parents were William Roche and Mary Daly. I have also found their marriage cert online for Midleton 31 Oct 1869. Could you please check if there are any other children baptised in Midleton to this couple? James Joseph Roche I know is a relative and he became Bishop of Cloyne died 31 August, 1956.
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I have found a record online for a James Joseph Roche baptised in Midleton on 23 Oct 1870, his parents were William Roche and Mary Daly. I have also found their marriage cert online for Midleton 31 Oct 1869. Could you please check if there are any other children baptised in Midleton to this couple? James Joseph Roche I know is a relative and he became Bishop of Cloyne died 31 August, 1956.
James Roche born 19 Oct.1870- https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5ZF-4H6
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Thank you for your kind offer. Would you please be able to see if there is a marriage for James Lynch to Mary King who married in about 1853. On the 1871 English Census it says they were both born in Midleton, Ireland and I am hoping they married there. They had three children Ellen, John and Patrick born in Cork before moving to Kent, England in 1863.
I have not been able to find any early records for this family so any information would be very much appreciated.
Pauline
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Thank you for your kind offer. Would you please be able to see if there is a marriage for James Lynch to Mary King who married in about 1853. On the 1871 English Census it says they were both born in Midleton, Ireland and I am hoping they married there. They had three children Ellen, John and Patrick born in Cork before moving to Kent, England in 1863.
I have not been able to find any early records for this family so any information would be very much appreciated.
Pauline
Hello Pauline had a look today at Church records but no result for names mentioned above. While James did record Middleton as place of birth on 1871 Census this could mean a number of outlying parishes. Have had a look at tithe applotment books & Griffiths Valuation both available online at www.nationalarchives.ie more specifically for surname of KING which is more uncommon than Lynch but no positive outcome.
www.rootsireland.ie does have a church baptism in Roman Catholic Parish of Cloyne (not far from Midleton) for a James Lynch in 1828 and a Marriage in same parish in 1856. This is a Pay site & you have to register - take a look but there is no guarantee this would be your James Lynch.
Familysearch.org does have various collections also for Ireland.
3 of James & Marys children are recorded as born in Cork - the others in Kent UK;
Civil Registration wasnt introduced in Ireland until 1864 so information prior to this is not readily available unless one has a Parish name etc.
www.irishgenealogy.ie covers the Diocese of Cork & Ross & includes South Parish & St Peter & Paul Churches where sometimes people from other areas of county cork were baptised/married.
Regards Frances :)
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Hi Frances
Thank you for your time and trouble in looking up the Lynch family.
I was hopeful that there may have been some record of them in the Midleton Church records. The ages of the Lynch family vary so much on all the English census that it is difficult to know exactly when they were born especially James. The 1828 birth could be James but not sure about the 1856 marriage as their daughter Ellen we think was born in 1855.
Thanking you once again.
Pauline
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Pauline you cannot rely on ages given on Censuses - people often didnt know their correct date of birth . regards frances
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Hello Frances,
I was wondering if you could please check the Midleton baptism records to see if there was any Patrick Roche baptised between 1865 - 1871 with parents John Roche & Catherine Parker?
Also do you know did marriage certs back then often have incorrect ages for the bride and groom?
Regards,
Alan
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Hello Frances,
I was wondering if you could please check the Midleton baptism records to see if there was any Patrick Roche baptised between 1865 - 1871 with parents John Roche & Catherine Parker?
Also do you know did marriage certs back then often have incorrect ages for the bride and groom?
Regards,
Alan
It will be next week before I can get to the records & I will check on your enquiry.
You had a query some time ago ref cemetery for the Workhouse in Midleton.
There is a graveyard called St Josephs in broomfield west midleton & I do know people were buried there from the workhouse but the graves are unmarked & hav no headstones.
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Hello Frances,
I was wondering if you could please check the Midleton baptism records to see if there was any Patrick Roche baptised between 1865 - 1871 with parents John Roche & Catherine Parker?
Also do you know did marriage certs back then often have incorrect ages for the bride and groom?
Regards,
Alan
The following baptisms in midleton to John Roche & Catherine Parker
Michaelis Joannes 2/1/1866 - Sponsors D Parker & Honora Parker
Catherina 19/1/1868 - Sponsors Robertus Parker & Maria Parker
Johannes Gulielmus 27/6/1871. - Sponsors Patritius Moore & Maria Walsh
NO RECORD for PATRICK ROCHE
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Hello Frances,
Thank you for all your help so far and for letting me know the grave location for Midleton Workhouse, my Great Great Grandfather William Hayes is buried there.
On the Midleton baptism cert for Catherine Roche on 17 March 1897, one of the sponsors is a Catherine Hayes. I am trying to find anything that can lead me to the family of my Great Great Grandfather William Hayes, I believe Catherine Hayes is his brother's wife. I do not know the name of his brother, it is possibly David. Catherine Hayes is on the 1901 census for Main Street, Midleton age 35 as a Widow and working as a servant. I was wondering if you could please check if there are any marriage certs in Midleton between the early 1880's up to March 1897 where the groom's surname is Hayes and the brides first name is Catherine or Kate?
Regards,
Alan
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Hello,
My family in Midleton, ROSS, appears to have been there from the early 1800s to the 1960s. I would love some help, but don't know how far back the church records go. My great-great grandfather Alexander (Sandy) ROSS died and was buried in Midleton in 1872, and my great grandfather James Daniel ROSS was born there c. 1857. There are scads of other Rosses in the records ... the men were all distillers.
Regards,
Christopher Ross
Montreal, Quebec.
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Hello,
My family in Midleton, ROSS, appears to have been there from the early 1800s to the 1960s. I would love some help, but don't know how far back the church records go. My great-great grandfather Alexander (Sandy) ROSS died and was buried in Midleton in 1872, and my great grandfather James Daniel ROSS was born there c. 1857. There are scads of other Rosses in the records ... the men were all distillers.
Regards,
Christopher Ross
Montreal, Quebec.
Hi Chris re your query I will have a look @ church records next week and see if I can come up with anything for you. There was a "Sandy" Ross who lived quiet near me & would say he is a relation of yours. When his wife died he moved to live in Wales with his son Richard. Sandy worked @ Irish Distillers in Midleton & you are correct there is a strong connection with Irish distillers. Be in touch. Regards Frances
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Chris1269
REF: ROSS FAMILY the following Grave Inscription in Cathedral Cemetery Cloyne Co Cork.
Erected by Mary Ross to the memory of her beloved husband Alexander Ross who departed this life September 7th 1872 age 62 years. :)
SIDE: Alexander Ross died 30th June 1913 aged 65 yrs. Julia Ross died 16th December 1917 aged 72/R.I.P
S. Murphy, Cork
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Hello Frances,
I very much appreciate your offer of help. How funny that Sandy Ross was a neighbour! I am in the midst of finding his siblings, all of whom left Midleton after being born there; however, what I am particularly interested in is how the Ross family got to be in Midleton in the first place.
I found a Coleman Ross who owned property in Rostellan and Titeskin, d. 1873, and was buried in Midleton, wondering if there is a connection, if he might be the first one.
The oldest ancestor I know of is Alexander Ross, who died 7 Sep 1872, aged 62. I don't know his wife Mary Ross' maiden name (I found her first name through estate reords), but presume they would have been married c. 1835.
They had 7 children that I know of:
Cornelius Paul Ross b. 1839, m. Elizabeth Catherine Mahony;
Julia A Ross b. 1845 Midleton, d. 1917 Midleton, unmarried;
Alexander Ross, b. 1848, m. Mary Dalton 1870, d. 1913 Midleton;
David St. John Ross b. 1851, m. Caroline C.;
Mary Anne Ross b. 1854, d. 1876 Midleton;
John James b. 1855;
James Daniel b. 1857.
Midleton is a place that despite its obvious importance to my family is largely unknown to me -- I have pieced the tree together on few clues, hints (occupation: distiller or brewer), and would love any confirmation that these 7 kids are issued of the union of A & M Ross.
Thank you so much for your time. Please do let me know how I can thank you for doing this.
Kind regards,
Christopher Ross.
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Chris1269 i can send you a Personal Message if you reply to this post thanks :)
Have seen your tree on Anc & you have discovered lots of information which isnt easy given the timeframe for Alexander b c 1811 Civil Reg didnt arrive in Ireland until 1864
Forgot to welcome you to Rootschat in my initial post
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Hi Frances,
Not sure if I am understanding the protocol here, but I would rather a certain measure of discretion, agreed.
Thanks again,
Chris.
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Hi Chris 1269,
I have two headstone photos for Alexander Ross if you would like to have them.
I have a book written by the famous Cork historian Richard Henchion and the full transcription
is in his book, he also states that the Ross memorial is the "Largest monument in the Graveyard".
It does stand out in an overall view of the cemetery.
Let me know if you would like them and I can send them to you.
Mary
Celtic Liberty
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Hello,
I was wondering if you could please look up a baptism record for any of the siblings Bridget Hayes (b1887), Garrett Hayes (b1891) or Mary Hayes (b1893) with their fathers name Patrick Hayes of Ballyvodock West (Midleton, Cork). I am looking to find their mothers name?
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Hello,
I was wondering if you could please look up a baptism record for any of the siblings Bridget Hayes (b1887), Garrett Hayes (b1891) or Mary Hayes (b1893) with their fathers name Patrick Hayes of Ballyvodock West (Midleton, Cork). I am looking to find their mothers name?
I dont see any records in Midleton for above. Ballyvodock I suspect is in carrigtwohill parish so roots ireland for these
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Thanks I found them under Carrigtwohill parish
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Hello,
Could you please look up a marriage for me? On familysearch it is listed as Bernard M'Grath, Oct-Dec 1881, Midleton. That is all the information I have, unfortunately.
Thank you!
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Hello,
Could you please look up a marriage for me? On familysearch it is listed as Bernard M'Grath, Oct-Dec 1881, Midleton. That is all the information I have, unfortunately.
Thank you!
Marriage for Bernard McGrath to Maria McGrath 10th November 1881. Witnesses: Dionysuis Carroll & Julia Kelleher. Priest D Lynch CC :)
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Thank you very much. Were there any parents names?
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Thank you very much. Were there any parents names?
Parents names not on Church record you would get the civil record which would have fathers names for 4E Photocopy www.groireland.ie do you have the Volume No & Page No :) :)
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Volume 4 Page 307 Reg District Middletown Co Cork
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Thank you :)
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Thank you :)
I think there was an error in transcription on the church record as when I looked up the civil 1 the brides name is given as Maria McCall(not mcgrath) If you need any further info let me know. regards Frances
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Thanks for letting me know. I am having a very hard time finding this marriage. I am looking for a Bernard McGrath/Magragh marrying an Ellen Magragh/McGrath somewhere around 1879-1884. They were both from Fermanagh.
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Hi there ... I'm hoping that Malcom R Stevens will get back to me. I've been looking in to my family history with my dad who is from Cobh originally. His father, John Lynch, was born John Mansfield in Midleton Workhouse in 1894. John Mansfield's mother was Mary Mansfield, who we believe was the daughter of Patrick Mansfield and Frances McCarthy (Mcarthy). If that's the case, then Mary and Jeremiah were brother and sister and... we're related! We're desperately trying to fill in more of Mary's history and I'd love to hear back from you. Ridiculously excited here! :-)
Jane Lynch
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Hi there ... I'm hoping that Malcom R Stevens will get back to me. I've been looking in to my family history with my dad who is from Cobh originally. His father, John Lynch, was born John Mansfield in Midleton Workhouse in 1894. John Mansfield's mother was Mary Mansfield, who we believe was the daughter of Patrick Mansfield and Frances McCarthy (Mcarthy). If that's the case, then Mary and Jeremiah were brother and sister and... we're related! We're desperately trying to fill in more of Mary's history and I'd love to hear back from you. Ridiculously excited here! :-)
Jane Lynch
Malcolm R Stevens was last online on Thursday 14 February 2013,but as long as he hasn't changed his email address he will be notified that you have posted here and hopefully will come back online and reply.
Good luck
Carol
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Hi there ... I'm hoping that Malcom R Stevens will get back to me. I've been looking in to my family history with my dad who is from Cobh originally. His father, John Lynch, was born John Mansfield in Midleton Workhouse in 1894. John Mansfield's mother was Mary Mansfield, who we believe was the daughter of Patrick Mansfield and Frances McCarthy (Mcarthy). If that's the case, then Mary and Jeremiah were brother and sister and... we're related! We're desperately trying to fill in more of Mary's history and I'd love to hear back from you. Ridiculously excited here! :-)
Jane Lynch
Malcolm R Stevens was last online on Thursday 14 February 2013,but as long as he hasn't changed his email address he will be notified that you have posted here and hopefully will come back online and reply.
Good luck
Carol
Hi the only Patrick Mansfield in 1901 & 1911 in Midleton has a wife name of Sarah :)
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Thanks Carol. I managed to send him a PM so, if Malcolm hasn't changed his email, I'm hoping to hear for him. Cheers Jane
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Thanks Carol. I managed to send him a PM so, if Malcolm hasn't changed his email, I'm hoping to hear for him. Cheers Jane
It's good that you've posted here though,as he may pick this up if he googles his family again,whereas he wouldn't find it through a PM,but let's hope he hasn't changed his email address!
Or did in fact register to be notified of postings?
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I posted this in the 'beginners' forum also.
On the 1842 church census on Chaple Street, two Walsh families are listed. Richard and Edward. It appears an error was made in the transcription as the families of Richard and Edward are the same. I am looking for the baptism/marriage/family on a Richard Walsh born around 1814 who married a Margaret Hurley around 1836. I assume Richard had the following siblings from names on baptismal records from RootsIreland: John, Ann, Catherine and possibly others [Edward]. I would love to find the baptismal/marriage records for Richard, John and Edward. Hopefully, it would give the name of their parents. Any help is appreciated.
Carol
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I posted this in the 'beginners' forum also.
On the 1842 church census on Chaple Street, two Walsh families are listed. Richard and Edward. It appears an error was made in the transcription as the families of Richard and Edward are the same. I am looking for the baptism/marriage/family on a Richard Walsh born around 1814 who married a Margaret Hurley around 1836. I assume Richard had the following siblings from names on baptismal records from RootsIreland: John, Ann, Catherine and possibly others [Edward]. I would love to find the baptismal/marriage records for Richard, John and Edward. Hopefully, it would give the name of their parents. Any help is appreciated.
Carol
hi Carol had a look at church registers in midleton which begin in 1819. No Marriage record there for Richard Walsh to Margaret Hurley. Looking at 1842 Census Chapel Rd it gives Richards wife as Ellen O Connell no marriage record either.
No baptism records with father Richard Walsh & mother Margaret Hurley/Ellen O Connell :)
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Hello,
I was wondering if you could please look up two marriage records for me in Midleton:
1. Daniel Roche & Mary Duhig - 18 August, 1823
2. Edmond Roche & Mary Scanlon - 19 August, 1866
In particular I am hoping to find a record if possible of the names & occupations of the father of the Groom's.
Regards,
Alan
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You could send off for a copy of Edmonds marriage cert which should give occupations
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGD7-999
Civil cert ref
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FY9K-JP6
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Hello,
I was wondering if you could please look up two marriage records for me in Midleton:
1. Daniel Roche & Mary Duhig - 18 August, 1823
2. Edmond Roche & Mary Scanlon - 19 August, 1866
In particular I am hoping to find a record if possible of the names & occupations of the father of the Groom's.
Regards,
Alan
The Church records will not show Occupation of Fathers - only Civil Certs
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ok, Can you still look for the 1823 record for me, I would like to know if it was in Midleton
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Hello,
Could you look up for me if a Michael Roche (address Milltown Mills, Clashduff, Midleton) married a woman called Bridget sometime between 1852 and 1876 in Midleton church?
Regards,
Alan
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Ballydw,
Seen you post regarding Ross family that you said you lived near, did you ever find out where Richard Ross now lives ?
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Ballydw,
Seen you post regarding Ross family that you said you lived near, did you ever find out where Richard Ross now lives ?
Hi all information has been passed on to the Poster who was researching the family. Are you related also? As you are new to Rootschat you will have to make 3 posts before you can use the Private message system. :)
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Sorry I have no idea if this covers the area that you research in - Aghada Parish?
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Hello Frances, Iain et al.,
FYI, I had no luck getting in touch with Richard Ross, much to my disappointment. Iain, your recent post has piqued my interest enough that I might try again. Additionally, a distant Ross cousin who lives here in Canada (BC) will be in Ireland in late June, taking a genealogy course and visiting Midleton. I am trying to muster up some good leads for her to look in to.
Regards to all,
Christopher Ross.
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Sorry I have no idea if this covers the area that you research in - Aghada Parish?
This is Midleton Parish - Aghada is different area. Think I gave you marriage details previously for Henry Cooke :)
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Hi Ballydw, thank you for the offer, i was wondering if you have a record of a Elizabeth Crown, born about 1792 in Cork?
She moved to london sometime after that and Married a William Disney from Kilkenny in 1819, i have the history of the family from their children to the modern day Just not their births and Parents etc.
Thanks in advance for any information you can provide
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Hi - and thanks for your kind offer. I'm searching for Michael Colbert and wife, Katherine Kelleher. They had three sons (at least) and apparently one daughter. The sons all emigrated to Boston Massachusetts. The U.S. Colbert Clan is gathering this July on Cape Cod and I'd love to present the location where the 3 immigrant boys were born and raised. Their names: James (born March 1851, emigrated 1876), Michael (born 24 May 1855, emigrated 1884) and Thomas (born 12 Oct 1860, emigrated 1885). Thanks! Jo
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Hi - and thanks for your kind offer. I'm searching for Michael Colbert and wife, Katherine Kelleher. They had three sons (at least) and apparently one daughter. The sons all emigrated to Boston Massachusetts. The U.S. Colbert Clan is gathering this July on Cape Cod and I'd love to present the location where the 3 immigrant boys were born and raised. Their names: James (born March 1851, emigrated 1876), Michael (born 24 May 1855, emigrated 1884) and Thomas (born 12 Oct 1860, emigrated 1885). Thanks! Jo
Hi Jo & welcome to rootschat. Just to establish what is your source that the family came from Midleton co cork? On checking the Griffith Valuation on www.nationalarchives.ie there are only 2 michael colberts listed - 1 in Mogeely 1 in Lisgoold Co Cork. This was a land survey in the mid 1850's in Ireland. The Midleton Baptism records would not cover the above outlying parishes.
So if you can revert to me also do you have ship passenger records for the Colberts?
Regards Frances :)
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Frances,
Thanks so much for the prompt reply! I don't have the ships or the ports of entry/departure - except that the family lore has it that the Colberts were from Queenstown, Cork. But I see no Colberts there. It may well have meant the it was their port of departure, of course, but that also doesn't say whether they went via Liverpool or not. The passenger arrival records are pretty spotty and often are index-only with scant information about departure ports or home townland - and am a bit of a loss on how to get vague arrival-by-port index cards (with Thomas Colbert, say - and departure port "Ireland") to passenger manifest - which might have more detail. I too say the Michael in Mogeely and another in Ballynoe - but here again, it's not clear to me what one should do with those leads. Can you suggest a best next-step from the Griffiths information? Thanks again, Jo
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Jo, the Griffiths will not give any further detail except to place a person in a location/townland etc. This is helpful if you know exactly near enough where your ancestors originated.
I had a look at the passenger records but as you say they provide little detailed info except mostly Ireland as a persons place of origin.
You mentioned Queenstown (now known as Cobh Co Cork) but this may or may not be their port of departure as a lot of emigrants left ireland from here.
I will take a look tomorrow at Midleton records to "rule in or out".
The Roman Catholic church records are due to come on line on 8th July from Irish Parishes from The National Library of Ireland.
It may be worthwhile you posting on the rootschat US Look Ups board for the passenger records for the three brothers, give their parents names, & Co Cork as birth location and Boston as arrival location. There are fantastic researchers on here & if records are available they will find them. Will revert to you if I source any information. Regards Frances
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You're the best! A thousand thank yous. That news about the 8 July - is fantastic.
Jo
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You're the best! A thousand thank yous. That news about the 8 July - is fantastic.
Jo
Jo, there is a death registration for a Michael Colbert, worth getting a photocopy of Cert cost €4 from www.groireland.ie I think you can pay with card & they will email you the cert.
DETAILS OF DEATH. which you give to GRO
Michael Colbert
Registration District CORK
OCT-DECEMBER QUARTER 1897
Age 72
Estimated birth year 1825
VOLUME 5 PAGE 63
Its a longshot but worth a try. Regards Frances
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Yes, I saw that on familysearch.org - though it's not clear whether its a certificate (i.e., more info) or a registration record (i.e., less). Thanks very much - I'll follow up on this.
All the best, Frances - much appreciated,
Jo
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Yes, I saw that on familysearch.org - though it's not clear whether its a certificate (i.e., more info) or a registration record (i.e., less). Thanks very much - I'll follow up on this.
All the best, Frances - much appreciated,
Jo
The record will have information i.e persons address @ time of death, Informant who registered death (may be a family member) :)
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Confide - Jo, no marriage or Baptism records in Midleton for your family. :)
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Hello everyone, I am trying to find birth details of a John Roche apparently born in Midleton somewhere between 1800 & 1810. I saw tbis string and was intrigued by the reference to a Catherine Roche, who was born somewhat later than my Roche. Can anyone help please. Thank you very much. Mick Cooper
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Hello everyone, I am trying to find birth details of a John Roche apparently born in Midleton somewhere between 1800 & 1810. I saw tbis string and was intrigued by the reference to a Catherine Roche, who was born somewhat later than my Roche. Can anyone help please. Thank you very much. Mick Cooper
Hi you can now check the registers at www.registers.nli.ie for free. I recall from memory the Midleton ones begin in 1819. :)
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Hi thanks for that; the problem is that I am looking for John Roche born before 1819. I was thinking of a range 1800-1810 although the lower end may be as far back as 1798 with the upper end probably more realistically at 1807. Mick
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MIDLETON CO CORK Ireland
« Reply #81 on: Tuesday 25 February 14 02:20 GMT (UK) »
Hello Frances,
Thank you for all your help so far and for letting me know the grave location for Midleton Workhouse, my Great Great Grandfather William Hayes is buried there.
Hi Frances, I hope you don't mind me piggybacking on this thread but I'm also looking for the location of the graves of those who were in Midleton Workhouse when they died. My paternal great grandmother, Maria (Mary) Mansfield died in the Workhouse in 1900 and we have no further knowledge of her.
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
Jane
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MIDLETON CO CORK Ireland
« Reply #81 on: Tuesday 25 February 14 02:20 GMT (UK) »
Hello Frances,
Thank you for all your help so far and for letting me know the grave location for Midleton Workhouse, my Great Great Grandfather William Hayes is buried there.
Hi Frances, I hope you don't mind me piggybacking on this thread but I'm also looking for the location of the graves of those who were in Midleton Workhouse when they died. My paternal great grandmother, Maria (Mary) Mansfield died in the Workhouse in 1900 and we have no further knowledge of her.
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
Jane
Hi Jane, Mary Mansfield died 27th Feb 1900 age 35 yrs & a widow. Diabetes. Do you know her husbands name & also her maiden name.
Having checked the local graveyards it is not showing any for Mary. While there are Mansfield burials they are from the 1950's & more recent years. Rgds Frances
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Thanks for getting back to me so quickly Frances. I had that information (sorry should have said). The death certificate says widow but previous records show that she was unmarried. She gave birth to John Mansfield in the workhouse on 23 June 1864. He remained in the workhouse for some.months after her death in 1900 and was adopted by Michael Lynch and Ellen Prendergast. We are trying to find out where the paupers from the workhouse were buried. Ultimately wed would also like to find out the name of the father of her child (my grandfather) but that seems very unlikely.
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Thanks for getting back to me so quickly Frances. I had that information (sorry should have said). The death certificate says widow but previous records show that she was unmarried. She gave birth to John Mansfield in the workhouse on 23 June 1864. He remained in the workhouse for some.months after her death in 1900 and was adopted by Michael Lynch and Ellen Prendergast. We are trying to find out where the paupers from the workhouse were buried. Ultimately wed would also like to find out the name of the father of her child (my grandfather) but that seems very unlikely.
John was born 23rd June 1894 not 1864. You will not be able to find his fathers name unless it was given on birth cert. Where were Michael Lynch * Ellen Prendergast living - were they a married couple. Do you have the names of parents of Mary Mansfield?
Regarding burial - there is a Paupers graveyard St Josephs near where I live but my understanding is the burials there were from the time of the Famine from the workhouse. Will make further enquiries. Reason I ask Marys parents names (do you have her birth Cert) is she may be buried with other family members i.e her father/mother. What area did the family reside in Midleton? On Johns adoption was his surname changed?
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Apologies again Frances. You're so kind. You're quite right. It was 1894. Mary's parents are Patrick Mansfield and Frances (Fanny McCarthy). Patrick died in 1886 and Frances died in 1894 (same quarter as Mary gave birth). Mary also has a sister Margaret who died aged 18 in 1874. Mary also had two brothers, Michael and Jeremiah. We dint have any adoption papers for John Mansfield though. But he was living as Lynch in both the 1901 and 1911 census.
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Apologies again Frances. You're so kind. You're quite right. It was 1894. Mary's parents are Patrick Mansfield and Frances (Fanny McCarthy). Patrick died in 1886 and Frances died in 1894 (same quarter as Mary gave birth). Mary also has a sister Margaret who died aged 18 in 1874. Mary also had two brothers, Michael and Jeremiah. We dint have any adoption papers for John Mansfield though. But he was living as Lynch in both the 1901 and 1911 census.
Cant see John in 1901 but is this him in 1911 in Rostellan as a Boarder with Michael & Ellen Lynch. Their marriage Michael Lynch & Ellen Prendeville Fathers James Lynch & Denis Prendeville. Their addresses given as East Ferry Midleton 1st August 1897.
Do you have Jeremiahs details - Marriage in Ballintotis Church 14th Feb 1882 to Margaret Ryan.
Fathers are Patrick Mansfield & James Ryan. They are on 1901 & 1911 Censuses living in Broomfield West Midleton. Havent uncovered any documented burials for the families pre 1950s. In those times not every family could afford a gravestone . Will keep digging. Frances
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Hello Frances, Iain et al.,
FYI, I had no luck getting in touch with Richard Ross, much to my disappointment. Iain, your recent post has piqued my interest enough that I might try again. Additionally, a distant Ross cousin who lives here in Canada (BC) will be in Ireland in late June, taking a genealogy course and visiting Midleton. I am trying to muster up some good leads for her to look in to.
Regards to all,
Christopher Ross.
Hi I am from the Ross family Richard is my cousin and his father Sandy my uncle. They live in Anglesey Wales along with my brother who grew up in Midleton after my mother Louise died young. I would love to help you with any information, if I can. Sandy is the only sibling still alive. Sandy Ross had sisters Jean, Anita, Betty and my mother Louise.
Kind regards
Yana
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Hello Frances, Iain et al.,
FYI, I had no luck getting in touch with Richard Ross, much to my disappointment. Iain, your recent post has piqued my interest enough that I might try again. Additionally, a distant Ross cousin who lives here in Canada (BC) will be in Ireland in late June, taking a genealogy course and visiting Midleton. I am trying to muster up some good leads for her to look in to.
Regards to all,
Christopher Ross.
Hi I am from the Ross family Richard is my cousin and his father Sandy my uncle. They live in Anglesey Wales along with my brother who grew up in Midleton after my mother Louise died young. I would love to help you with any information, if I can. Sandy is the only sibling still alive. Sandy Ross had sisters Jean, Anita, Betty and my mother Louise.
Kind regards
Yana
Hello Yana welcome to roots chat. After you make (I think) 3 posts you will then be able to correspond with other posters by Private Message (PM) So to contact Chris1269 go to search box on Main Forum Page type in name & when you retrieve his info you will see the PM facility on his Profile page. If you have any problem let me know. Rgds Ballydw (You can respond to this message)
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Hello Frances, Iain et al.,
FYI, I had no luck getting in touch with Richard Ross, much to my disappointment. Iain, your recent post has piqued my interest enough that I might try again. Additionally, a distant Ross cousin who lives here in Canada (BC) will be in Ireland in late June, taking a genealogy course and visiting Midleton. I am trying to muster up some good leads for her to look in to.
Regards to all,
Christopher Ross.
Hi I am from the Ross family Richard is my cousin and his father Sandy my uncle. They live in Anglesey Wales along with my brother who grew up in Midleton after my mother Louise died young. I would love to help you with any information, if I can. Sandy is the only sibling still alive. Sandy Ross had sisters Jean, Anita, Betty and my mother Louise.
Kind regards
Yana
[/quote] Hello Yana welcome to roots chat. After you make (I think) 3 posts you will then be able to correspond with other posters by Private Message (PM) So to contact Chris1269 go to search box on Main Forum Page type in name & when you retrieve his info you will see the PM facility on his Profile page. If you have any problem let me know. Rgds Ballydw (You can respond to this message)
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Hi My Name is Louise M O Brien.From Midleton Sandy and Louise were my first cousins .
We lived in Midleton.Co Cork.
My Father Kevin Thomas O'Brien was Sandys Uncle.
His Sister Margrette Ursula was married to A Garnett Ross as we knew him .
All worked in the Distillery.
Sandy married a Mary Power and had only one son Richard.
They were all older then me Richard would be the same age as my older siblings.
Would've to hear from.you both.
Regards cousin
Louise Mary O Brien .
NJ USA.
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Hi Frances,
I was wondering if you are still doing look-ups for Midleton??
I would be so greatful if you could check a record for me....a Marriage between Mary Glaveen and Patrick Collins. The date of the Marriage is 6th August 1891. The copy of the Civil record, isn't available. I am trying to track Mary Glavin b. Youghal 1847, father John Glaveen, mother Mary Walsh.
(From what I can gather from 1901 Census, there is one Patrick Collins with wife Mary in Midleton area. Mary is his second wife. O'Keeffe is his first wife.)
Thank you.
Mary (Scanlon)
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image of the civil marriage register - Patrick Collins and Mary Glaveen 6th August 1891 (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1891/10678/5891869.pdf)
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Hi Frances,
I was wondering if you are still doing look-ups for Midleton??
I would be so greatful if you could check a record for me....a Marriage between Mary Glaveen and Patrick Collins. The date of the Marriage is 6th August 1891. The copy of the Civil record, isn't available. I am trying to track Mary Glavin b. Youghal 1847, father John Glaveen, mother Mary Walsh.
(From what I can gather from 1901 Census, there is one Patrick Collins with wife Mary in Midleton area. Mary is his second wife. O'Keeffe is his first wife.)
Thank you.
Mary (Scanlon)
Hi Mary I see another poster has given you the Civil record. If you need any further assistance let me know. I notice on Civil record Marys father is Matthew Glaveen. There is a Matthew Glavin in 1901 census in Ballybrannigan DED INCH CORK wife Mary. This could be the family as Marys marriage took place in Cloyne which is not far from Inch Matthew Glavin also same place in 1911 census. Rgds Frances
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[/quote] Hi Mary I see another poster has given you the Civil record. If you need any further assistance let me know. Rgds Frances
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Hi Frances,
I don't have the Civil Record, a copy of it isn't available on Irish Genealogy. All that was available there, was the date and the name of the spouse, Patrick Collins.
I am hoping the Church record might contain the witnesses, perhaps an address, which might or not give a direction to search further or not.
Any help would be so appreciated, Frances.
Mary
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[/quote] Hi Mary I see another poster has given you the Civil record. If you need any further assistance let me know. I notice on Civil record Marys father is Matthew Glaveen. There is a Matthew Glavin in 1901 census in Ballybrannigan DED INCH CORK wife Mary. This could be the family as Marys marriage took place in Cloyne which is not far from Inch Matthew Glavin also same place in 1911 census. Rgds Frances
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Thank you for the info., Frances. That confirms that it ISN'T my Mary Glavin. Thank you so much again, Frances.
Mary
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Apologies again Frances. You're so kind. You're quite right. It was 1894. Mary's parents are Patrick Mansfield and Frances (Fanny McCarthy). Patrick died in 1886 and Frances died in 1894 (same quarter as Mary gave birth). Mary also has a sister Margaret who died aged 18 in 1874. Mary also had two brothers, Michael and Jeremiah. We dint have any adoption papers for John Mansfield though. But he was living as Lynch in both the 1901 and 1911 census.
Cant see John in 1901 but is this him in 1911 in Rostellan as a Boarder with Michael & Ellen Lynch. Their marriage Michael Lynch & Ellen Prendeville Fathers James Lynch & Denis Prendeville. Their addresses given as East Ferry Midleton 1st August 1897.
Do you have Jeremiahs details - Marriage in Ballintotis Church 14th Feb 1882 to Margaret Ryan.
Fathers are Patrick Mansfield & James Ryan. They are on 1901 & 1911 Censuses living in Broomfield West Midleton. Havent uncovered any documented burials for the families pre 1950s. In those times not every family could afford a gravestone . Will keep digging. Frances
Well, I've finally found my way back here. I've been doing so much research that I'd forgotten all of the websites I was using.
Frances, are you still able to put your hands on the marriage information for Michael Lynch and Ellen Prenderville (Fathers' names James Lynch and Denis Prenderville)? I can't for the life of me find their marriage details. My dad is now 92 and this family mystery is keeping him engaged.
Many many thanks
Jane
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Michael and Ellen's marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1898/10410/5790822.pdf
found on
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
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Michael and Ellen's marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1898/10410/5790822.pdf
found on
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
Wow...thank so much. How did you do that so quickly? I've been looking for ages. Prob too long. Eyes are crossed :-)
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You probably tried too hard, I just put Michael Lynch, the year and ticked marriage, it comes 3rd on the list.
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Thanks again :) :>
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Any registered Marriages are on
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
there is a Security Captcha to solve and use initials to sign in.
Safe site!
No need to fill all boxes.
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I have been using the Parish Registers at NLI and have found some useful information.
At this time I am looking for records at the Holy Rosary Church in Midleton. I am looking for a particular baptism which might have taken place in 1884. ( + / - ).
The Baptism records appear to be listed only up until 1881.
I am looking for the Baptism of
Lenora (Nora F) Coughlan.
Parents are Henry Coughlan and Hanora Barry of Midleton.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Civil Reg Birth results for Coughlan. of Middleton from 1882 to 1888
Link http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ozs/
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https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
there is a Security Captcha to solve and use initials to sign in.
Safe site!
No need to fill all boxes.
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There as Honora...didn't look for other possible siblings, may be some via Link posted.
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Thank you for your reply. In addition to NLI I also use the site you suggested. The records for 1884 do not appear there either.
I have just checked again just in case I missed it previously.
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I have just posted it in the reply above and also the criteria on How to find it.
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Thank you for your reply. In addition to NLI I also use the site you suggested. The records for 1884 do not appear there either.
I have just checked again just in case I missed it previously.
From NLI
Although civil registration of births, marriages and deaths began in 1864, records were not accurately kept for a number of years, so a cut-off date of 1880 was applied for the microfilming of registers.
See Background
https://registers.nli.ie/about
Baptism Register transcriptions after 1880is can sometimes be found on RootsIreland a transcription site.
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Thank you for your advice which I did follow, and I did find a birth record for Hanora Coughlan, Midleton 1884.
However I am still trying to find a Baptism for her as I am interested in knowing who the sponsors were.
Thank you for your help.
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Did you click on the More info Link at bottom of NLI page to see where other Reg are, Years etc?