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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: starbeck lass on Thursday 14 February 13 17:07 GMT (UK)
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Henry Atkinson is on census 1871 aged 25, 81 aged 35 and 1891 aged 43, as a publican of the Red Lion Burley in Wharfedale. Is there any way to find out more about the pub during this period, for example who else worked there? a while ago I found on the burleycensus.net /photos site, an advertising flier for the Wharfedale Races, Tuesday October 19th, infuriatingly with no year given! It has a list of the handicaps, one of which is the Innkeepers Plate which has H. Atkinson h. m. Ciara 4 years white, Pink. (The burleycensus site seems to have closed now, thank goodness I printed off the photo!)
Any info about the Henry, the pub or the races gratefully received, thanks
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Hi and welcome
The 1871 shows his mother as the licensed innkeeper and Henry as a brewer and the image shows one servant
In 1881 he is the innkeeper and there are 2 female servants
In 1891 just a domestic housekeeper
The people named as servants would probably have lived on the premises
There may possibly have been other staff who did not "live in" but you would not find records after all this time - even if any existed at that time
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A very warm welcome to Rootschat.
Spotted this in the Leeds Mercury, Sat 15 Aug, 1863 -
"Deaths - Brumfitt - Aug 11th, aged 83, Mr George Brumfitt, farmer, late carrier, Addingham, and father to Mrs Atkinson, Red Lion Inn, Burley, Wharfedale"
1861 Census - RG09 3213 4 1 James Atkinson, 55, Innkeeper and Elizabeth Atkinson 50, at the Red Lion
1851 Census HO107 2284 291 09 Elizabeth Brumfit, 57, Publican, The Red Lion. A servant at the pub is a Jonathon Atkinson, 20, Brewer
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Thanks to both for the welcome and the help. I was hoping there might have been some sort of pub history I could tap into as I know there is for some areas like Horsforth. Is it worth trying to track down the brewery - would they have records (not just of its staff but general info) or is this too long a shot?
I can't tie in Jonathon At. to my lot - they came from Addingham but I've made a note of him as you never know! George B. was Henry's father - how do you get into the Leeds Mercury pages as it may be useful to know?
Thanks again to both of you
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Check out http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/
Also, depending on your location, check out library/local archive facilities.
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Thanks for the website link, I shall pay a visit to burley and check out the library.
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I have just had a look at the warfegen.org.uk website for info on your Henry.
Found personal info but other than birth/death and mi info nothing on the Red Lion inn.
Birth recorded 5th Dec 1845 Addingham son of James and Elizabeth Brumfitt, christened 9th Oct 1860 St Peter's Church Addingham. Buried 5th April 1924 St Peter's Church Addingham.
Brian
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Thanks Brian,
Just looked at Wharfedale & Craven Gen site (which is great) and got diverted by the Ilkley More Forum and thought I’d found something on the Wharfedale Races under the post “Horse for Courses” – turned out to be about the horsemeat scandal – got brought back to present day far too quickly! Grace
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If you want to know a bit more about Henry's tenancy at the pub, you could look at the Quarter Sessions records, as he would have had to renew his licence annually. I believe these are in Wakefield.
Also look at trade directories.
Henry's mother left a will when she died in 1875 -might be worth obtaining to see if he was left anything by her.
As for the local history of the village, have a look at this site -there are some maps and photos of the village which might be of interest. The local history group may have more information.
http://www.burley-in-wharfedale.org/history/00Intro/summary.html
Regards
Ellen
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I forgot to mention earlier, Henry's parents James and Elizabeth's marriage inc birth and death of each recorded.
Brian
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Hello again
The Wharfedale Gen. site is a goldmine, I spent most of this afternoon checking out the Atkinsons, found Henry's parents info and others on my tree such as the Wilkinsons from Burnsall.
Ellen, please - how would I check the quarter sessions - are they on line or do I need to visit Leeds or somewhere?
Thanks, Grace
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Hi Grace
No, I don't think they've got them online. You would be best contacting Wakefield archives which holds most of the central old West Riding records, and Quarter Sessions would be a central record applicable to across the county.
You can email them at wakefield@wyjs.org.uk
The licences for publicans/public houses might fall under Otley Petty Sessions records, but a quick look at the online catalogue didn't enlighten me.
Regards
Ellen
It would entail a visit and book beforehand as they do get busy and have limited opening times.
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The archive service has introduced a type of library card to be used by all.
(Photo driving licence/senior citizen bus pass allowed as proof of ID.)
http://archives.wyjs.org.uk/archives-about-us.asp
Clicking on the link above gives information on all the West Yorkshire Archive offices.
Brian
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Thanks again, I'll have to pay a visit to Wakefield - it's not too far for me to go.
Thanks also for the link to the West Yorks. archive site, another useful one to know about.
regards Grace
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Hi
It's sometimes e since you enquired about Henry, but this is my family and I may be able to help a little.
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
Just to let you know that Grace hasn't been on-line since 2013.
However, please feel free to add your information - BUT nothing regarding living members of the family (RootsChat doesn't allow it) - it may help others who are researching the same family/ies.
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Hello wrjc,
Welcome to RootsChat. I am very sorry but our notification to Grace has bounced back to us, it looks like she has changed her contact email and has not let us know what the new one is so sadly we are no longer able to make contact. Old members do get back in touch every day, I hope that this will happen for this member.
Regards
Sarah