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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Galway => Topic started by: Whitwickuser on Monday 25 February 13 16:03 GMT (UK)
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Hello
I'm looking for any birth details for a Patrick Reilly born around 1827 believed to be in Galway. He married a Mary Tarmey & had 7 sons - 5 emigrated, finally settling in Leicestershire (James,John,Thomas,Patrick & Martin) one (Edward) we believe emigrated to America and another, Luke, remained on the farm around Williamstown, Galway. Any information on Patrick senior, Mary or any of their boys would be most appreciated
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Welcome to Rootschat :)
It is best if you state what information you already have to avoid unnecessary searching and work by Rootschatters.
For example do you have any of your family in censuses - Irish or UK?
Family Search has some births/baptisms here (https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Areilly~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Agalway~%20%2Bfather_givenname%3Apatrick~%20%2Bmother_givenname%3Amary~%20%2Bmother_surname%3Atarmey~). Do you have those details or birth certificates?
What kind of information do you want re the boys?
For Patrick and Mary it may be difficult because civil registration did not begin generally until 1864 so you would be looking at Parish Records. Do you have an approximate date for marriage?
Apologies that it is all questions but it would be helpful knowing what you have already.
regards
heywood
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You're right sorry.. Believe Patrick was born around 1827 & his mother may have been called Honoria. Mary Tarmey we believe was born around 1841, fathers name John. Using the children's ages as a basic guide- Patrick & Mary may have married around 1857. We think Patrick was alive in 1890 as he is not named as deceased on his son's marriage certificate. With reference to Patrick's son's we are particularly interested in Edward (born around 1873) who we believe emigrated to America though he was boarding with brother in Whitwick, Leicestershire in the 1911 census
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Hello again,
is this your family in the Irish censuses?
1901 Reilly Templetogher (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Templetogher/Polreamon/1382624/)
1911 Reilly Templetogher (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Galway/Templetogher/Pollremon/460711/)
heywood
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They are the ones! :) - thank you so much for your help.
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My grandmother was from the parish, I know of this family. They lived in an area of the townland known as Polnagat. Local tradition has Patrick Reilly married to Mary Tarmey. Their son Luke married Bridget Quinn, whose daughter Mary Kate married a distant cousin of mine, too distant to prove. Also, Patrick had a sister, Bridget Reilly, she married Patrick Murphy in 1866, her father Luke was deceased.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG8X-LFB
I believe that a gentleman from Whitwick, Albert used to visit these families years ago. You may be connected to him.
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I'm almost certain the Albert from Whitwick is my father..he did visit & used to be in contact with a gentleman..I dont have his name handy but McDermott rings a bell I'll confirm later. Unfortunately my father passed away a few years ago so I can no longer check these things with him. I know he always thoroughly enjoyed his visits & meeting up with distant relatives..again though these links have gone with him. I didnt realise that Patrick snr had a sister so many thanks for that snippet and for their fathers name. There are still a number of O'Reillys living around Whitwick & Coalville (the ones that moved to Whitwick added the O on the insistance of the local parish priest - called O'Reilly)..why they moved to Whitwick is still a mystery, possibly to work in the coal mines, though that must have been a shock after living & working on a farm. Does anyone remember what happened to Patrick's snr son Edward? Thanks again for the info, & I'm chuffed that my dad made an impression!
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I never met your dad but we knew of each other, believe he wrote a book. Once went to a Historical Group event but was told your father had just gone. Will try to awaken his 3rd cousin in Lancashire (they used to be in touch, she is also related to me) and send you a PM. Cannot help with Edward/Edmond after 1911.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5FS-V8Y
Best regards.
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That's right he was heavily into the Whitwick Historical Group & wrote a couple of books. Its a shame you missed him I'm sure he would have loved a chat. I know now that he visited Mary Kate, who must have been his cousin, with my sister on one visit. I'll try and get hold of my aunt, the last of dad's brother's & sisters, to see if she has some more information.
I'm new to all of this, I haven't really grasped the private message concept but would be happy to receive one..just give me a bit of time to work out how to open it! If you can awaken a third cousin that would be good..
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Mary Kate I think would be your grandmother's first cousin. Have sent you a PM with some details; think you need to log in and click 'My Messages'. Let me know of any problems.
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Hi Whitwickuser.
I have been researching Tarmey family history over the last few years. They originate from Templetogher, Williamstown, Galway. James Tarmey 1872 was born there. His Father Martin Tarmey born 1842 married Ellen Dillon 31 Jan 1866 in Williamstown.
I would like to know more information. I was very interested to read this forum and maybe there could be some connection.
Mark
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Hello Mark - apologies for the tardiness in responding - work commitments
The Tarmeys do appear in my family tree but I haven't had much joy finding a great deal out. I don't know if there is a link with your tree because my knowledge is very scant but what I do know is that my great great grandfather, Patrick Reilly (b around 1827) married a Mary Tarmey (b around 1841). The Reilly's were from Polredmon/Templetogher near Williamstown. I don't know where Mary & Patrick were married but presume it was in or around Williamstown. They had 7 sons, James (b 1858) John (b 1859) Thomas (b 1861) Patrick (b 1865) Martin (b 1871) Edward (b 1873) & Luke (b 1877). All bar Edward & Luke moved to Leicestershire (Whitwick or Loughborough) & married there. Luke remained on the farm just outside Williamstown while Edward seemed to move around - the family believe he moved to the US at some point after 1911. Luke married a Keneally/Connelly & had two children Patrick & Kate
Mary Tarmey's father was called John who I think was born around 1817 - this from an entry in the 1851 Census for Whitwick - John Tarmey 34 lodger married Farm Labourer from Ireland at Whitwick Waste Farm - we think its the right Tarmey & if they had heard stories from their grandfather it would go some way to explain why the Reilly's (O'Reilly's as they became) moved from the West Coast of Ireland to a small coal mining village in the middle of England
Not much help I fear, but let me know what you think - I'll keep an eye on my emails
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Hi, thanks for getting back to me.
My Great Grandfather James Tarmey 1872-1949 married Mary Tarmey 1887-1963
Both of them were Tarmeys. James was from Templetogher, where Mary was from Cloonmahara. Both in the parish of Williamstown.
James Tarmeys parents were Martin Tarmey 1842 and Ellen Dillon 1844.
Martin Tarmey 1842 father was called James Tarmey (No information but approx 1810/1820s)
Mary Tarmey above 1887-1963, her parents were Thomas Tarmy 1841 and Mary Knight 1846. Thomas Tarmey's father was Michael Tarmey.
Might be a bit confusing but it would be easier if you had a look at my family tree on Ancestry.com.
Send me on ur email address to mtarmey59@gmail.com and I can share my tree with you to give you a better idea.
Maybe your mary tarmey in your tree could be related .....
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Hello,
The plot thickens in the link between Galway and Whitwick. There were 5 Irish Families in Whitwick in the 1851 census. 3 lots of Concannons, one of which was definitely from Galway, and my descendants James and Catherine O'Mara who we believe were also from County Galway. Concannon being a Galway name its possible that Edward, Micheal and John were brothers. I have seen another site linking the Concannons to Williamstown. I have never found any information on which parish or townland the O'Maras came from. I have searched for them on IrishRoots and findmyroots etc. I notice that the records for Williamstown/Templetogher are sparse. Out of interest how did you trace the Reillys to Pollredmond? Have you any idea what the link is between Whitwick and Galway? Is it possible/likely that the Reillys, Concannons and O'Maras all came from the same area of Galway.
Robert O'Mara
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This is pure off chance ??? and may help bring down my brick wall (hopefully)
My G/Grandfather x3.
Bernard Reilly/O'Riley/Riley birth about 1791/1796. Occupation Flax weaver.
1841 census- Barnsley, West Yorkshire - Dawson Hall - Occ - weaver.
1851 Ardsley, West Yorkshire, Occ - Weaver.
1861 Ardsley , West Yorkshire - Occ - Weaver.
Died 1868 Ardsley/Barnsley.
Poss married a "Mary" lord knows where ?? about 1826, as first daughter Ellen born about this time, also second daughter Catherine born 1826.
other children...James 1829-1880. Mary Ann 1832-1891. Margaret 1835-1902. John 1837-1841. Michael 1839-1865.
All born West Yorkshire.
Have spent the last lord knows how many years trying to break down this brick wall, and help would be appreciated, I know it is a long shot, but you never know. ;D
as always Patvp