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General => The Common Room => The Lighter Side => Topic started by: genjen on Thursday 28 February 13 19:53 GMT (UK)
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Lydart has just reminded me that a new month is upon us so, from tomorrow, 1st March, this is the thread for all your family anniversaries and stories.
Several of us have been joining in for the past few months. It gives us a chance to remember our family members and to tell what we know about them but it has also given some of us the push we needed to dig a little deeper, to send for that certificate we've been meaning to buy but kept putting off and to do some tidying up of our records.
Everyone is welcome so we look forward to hearing your March stories. :)
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Thanks for starting this genjen :) Being Australian it's afternoon here whilst I'd guess most others would be getting up soon.
1 March 1810
My 5xgreat-grandmother, Hendrika Keller, was born in Vollenhove, Overijssel. Her parents were farmers in the area. Hendrika married a farmer, Peter van Eerde, in 1833, at which time she was working as a maid. They had six children before Hendrika died on 7 January 1846, aged only 35. Peter remarried and had further children, before dying in 1883.
1 March 1912
My 3xgreat-grandfather, Cornelius Reemer, died following a long illness at his daughter's residence in Haarlem, aged 81. Cornelius was born in Antwerp, Belgium on 17 September 1830. His unmarried mother was Dutch and I hypothesise she crossed the border because of the illegitimacy (she herself was the illegitimate daughter of a knighted Rear Admiral). Shortly after the birth they moved back to her home town of Den Helder. After stints in Heemstede and Utrecht, they settled in Haarlem, where Cornelius married Johanna van den Eijkhoff in 1866. They had seven children, but only 3 survived. Cornelius worked as a labourer as a younger man and later as a gravedigger, before retiring in 1905. He then lived with his daughter Hendrika and her husband Johannes (Johanna had died in 1899) at Jan Steenstraat 55, Haarlem, where he died.
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I haven't been contributing many as i'm still in the process of putting all the information I have into a computer programme, however it is my sister in laws birthday today. Happy birthday to her.
Hopefully this thread will continue next year, by which time I might have entered all the info i've got and i can clear the spare bed of piles of papers! ;D
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I haven't been contributing many as i'm still in the process of putting all the information I have into a computer programme, however it is my sister in laws birthday today. Happy birthday to her.
Hopefully this thread will continue next year, by which time I might have entered all the info i've got and i can clear the spare bed of piles of papers! ;D
Firstly, your sister is important and deserves to be mentioned here every bit as much as the ancestors, so Happy Birthday to her. Secondy, I hope this will carry on into next year because I keep adding to my tree and some people have been missed out already! I shall do my best.
Today I have:
1757, Mary Favell, a 6 x great-aunt was baptised in Spennithorne, daughter of Edmund Favell and Mary Pratt, sister of Henry Favell who was my direct ancestor.
1804 Martha Iley, 4 x great-aunt was baptised at High Worsall, Yarm, daughter of Matthew Iley and Mary Kendrew.
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On March 1st 1903 my great great grandmother Janet Brown died in Larbert Lunatic Asylum, Stirling. Why she was there, I have yet to find out. I am told it could, despite the asylum's title, be depression or an illness the family couldn't cope with. She is certainly missing from the family home in 1901.
Even Janet's birth is a bit of a mystery. She was born about 1846 in Bo'ness, the 5th child of Walter Brown and Margaret Dunlop. From census returns and her death certificate I know these were her parents. However even though I have the births of all her siblings John, Archibald, Agnes, Robert and Walter, Janet's is missing.
She married my great great grandfather Peter Wardlaw in 1864 when she was 6 months pregnant with my great grandfather, George. Between then and 1875 she had George, Margaret, Walter, Peter, John and Janet. Eleven years later in 1886 at the age of 42 she had her last child Jennie, who was home with her father Peter on the 1901 census. I am thinking perhaps Janet was by then already in the asylum.
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Perhaps your g.g.gran had post natal depression and kept going in and out of the asylum, which is how she came to have another child sometime after the others. Perhaps this last one tipped the post natal depression into some kind of full blown depression. Have you tried to get the asylum records? They might still be available and as 100 years has passed since her death, there's no excuse not to let you have them (or maybe Scottish records are different to English ones).
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I've a few today, but one of them will have to have a piece of his own, so here are the others
Philologus Collett my 5 x g.g.uncle was baptised in Eye, Suffolk in 1706/7
Isabell Chambelaine my 20 x g.grandmother was baptised in Morton by Bourne, Lincolnshire on 1 March 1561. She married aged 17 and had at least 12 children over 20 years. The 10th became my 9 x g.grandmother.
Charles Albert Heaton my husband’s g.uncle was baptised at St Luke’s Church, Chelsea in 1840
Elizabeth Day my 3 x g.g.aunt was baptised at St Peter & St Paul, Belton by Grantham, Lincolnshire in 1788. There was another daughter called Elizabeth baptised in 1785, I presume she must have died. Following the first Elizabeth, a daughter called Ann was born in February 1787 and died on 9 April 1788, when the 2nd Elizabeth was only 3 months old, about 5 weeks after Elizabeth’s baptism. The poor mother had already lost her first child aged 5 in 1785.
John Thomas Brand my g.g.uncle died in Manchester in 1899 aged 40. He was the g.grandson of Charles Gilchrist below. I don’t know the cause of death, his is just one on a list of many certs to purchase eventually.
Charles Gilchrist my 4 x g.grandfather died in Boston, Lincolnshire in 1829. He came to England as a member of a troop of the Fifeshire Cavalry a Fencible unit. He was born about 1770 in Scotland, but I can’t confirm his birth. I found a probable one on Scotland’s People, but the only link is that both Charles and the father of the child on the baptism record were gardeners and the mother’s unusual maiden name (at least in England) was given to some of Charles descendants as a middle name.
William Benson my 4 x g.grandfather was buried at St Cuthbert’s Church, Aldingham, Lancashire in 1837. Unfortunately, just a few months too soon to have a death certificate with a cause of death shown. William was a weaver when he married but whether he stayed with that profession or not I don’t know. Certainly his eldest son, my 3 x g.grandfather was a farmer.
And most importantly Adam one of my grandson’s was born this day 1997. Happy 16th birthday Adam.
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Hi Lizzie, it's on my list of 'to do' next time I am in Scotland. Given the late birth, post natal depression were my thoughts too. I also wondered if in the eleven years between Janet and Jennie's births, she had perhaps lost some due to miscarriages.
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No ancestors today, but it is my great nephew's 10th birthday, so it's off to a party later this afternoon with pizza, chips and garlic bread, followed by cake. That's the diet blown for today. ;D
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Here's my final one today.
William Dameron my 11 x g.grandfather was buried in Westerfield, Suffolk in 1558. Unfortunately, I have no idea who is wife, my 11 x g.grandmother was. Even in his will, he only calls her “my wife” and doesn’t even mention her until he’s mentioned the bequests to his daughters, his sons, his grandchildren and godchildren, apart from a small mention under the bequest to one of his sons where he states he bequests, after the death of his wife, the bedstead with the posts and tester to the son.
He obviously didn’t think much of her (or it seems women in general), he even says that if she marries again, she won’t get anything (that is usual in wills at the time) but also makes the point that she mustn’t meddle with the house. Also if she declines what he condescends to give her in the will, which is basically that she can live in about 3 rooms in the house until her death, he will halve the amount of money he was leaving to his daughters. He bequeathed £100 each to his 3 daughters, £40 on their marriage and £20 annually until £100 paid, but if they marry all within one year that then they shall have but £20 a piece paid them at their marriage, and so forth £20 a year till the £100 be paid.
Apart from saying his wife can remain in the house, he doesn’t actually leave her anything, but states that she should have £20 a year, but £10/year has to come from one of his sons lands, £8/year from another son’s land and £4/year to come out of the land he willed should be sold. He did however transfer the Manor at Westerfield to his eldest son John, my 10 x g.grandfather, which he acquired from an Anthony Bedingfield and others. There is a document regarding this in the National Archives. As William Dameron was church warden and a yeoman, it seems incredible that he somehow accumulated enough money to buy a Manor House and leave fairly substantial donations to his children.
He also gave to whichever poor his executors thought most fitted the description £20 at his burial and within one year after.
Only after all that, did he mention his wife’s demeaning bequest!
It's said that Shakespeare's widow would automatically be entitled to one third of her husband's estate but to be given a 2nd best bed was a demeaning bequest, but even allowing for that it is highly unusual for a spouse to be included so tersely as an afterthought. My 11 x g.grandfather obviously set a precedent. :o
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Hi Lizzie, it's on my list of 'to do' next time I am in Scotland. Given the late birth, post natal depression were my thoughts too. I also wondered if in the eleven years between Janet and Jennie's births, she had perhaps lost some due to miscarriages.
Can you not just send an e-mail to the appropriate authority?
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This along with several other searches is one I am saving for a day in the archives Lizzie.
By the way the 'Shakespeare's bed' conundrum, it has been suggested that the marital bed was the second best bed, the best one being reserved for guests. Though it's true he left most of his wealth to his favourite daughter Susanna.
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(Just book-marking, so I don't miss any !)
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This along with several other searches is one I am saving for a day in the archives Lizzie.
By the way the 'Shakespeare's bed' conundrum, it has been suggested that the marital bed was the second best bed, the best one being reserved for guests. Though it's true he left most of his wealth to his favourite daughter Susanna.
My 11 x g.grandmother didn't get either the best bed, that went to the 2nd son, or the 2nd best bed which went to the 1st son! For a church warden, my 11 x g.grandfather was not very charitable.
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Philologus Collett my 7 x g.g.uncle was born in Westerfield, Suffolk in 1624/25. His eldest sister Bridget, although remaining single, became very wealthy, leaving the bulk of her estate, including the rents from various cottages in Suffolk, to be used to establish the first school at Westerfield for the poor children of the village. There is now a charitable Trust which assists children and young people with their educational needs such as the cost of books for further studies. The eldest surviving brother Samuel was responsible for the building of Westerfield Hall and received a Grant of Arms during the Suffolk Visitation in 1664. Whilst Philologus’s brother Henry, my 7 x g.grandfather seems to have led an average life. ;D Philologus was the g.uncle of another Philologus Collett, my 5 x g.uncle who was baptised on 1 March, so shown yesterday.
Joseph Gaunt my 3 x g.g.uncle was baptised in Denby, Yorkshire in 1760. His father was a cordwainer, but Joseph became as farmer as did his eldest son.
Edith Collett my 8 x g.g.aunt was baptised in Westerfield, Suffolk in 1588/89. Interestingly her father, in his will, made his other surviving daughter the executor (ignoring his sons) and only his wife, two daughters and one of his sons were beneficiaries under the terms of the will. This was probably because his other two sons had been bequeathed properties and lands by their maternal grandfather. Edith was an aunt of Philologus Collett my 7 x g.g.uncle above.
Thomas Harper my husband’s 3 x g.g.uncle was baptised at St Nicholas Church, Liverpool in 1794. Nothing else is known about him apart from his date of marriage and the name of his wife.
Henry Skelton my 5 x g.g.uncle was baptised in Holme Cultram, Cumberland in 1755. All I know about him is that his grandfather was a Yeoman and he was the youngest brother of my 5 x g.grandmother.
Grace Baildon (nee Twiddall) my 6 x g.grandmother was buried at Almondbury, Yorkshire in 1738/9. She married aged 16 and had her first child just over 2 months later. So far I’ve only found 5 children born to Grace and her husband my 6 x g.grandfather, and the youngest one was born and died without being named or even being called just boy or girl. My 5 x g.grandfather was their only son.
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Amy Holmes died today in Sydney New South Wales Australia in 1929 aged only 47
She had been born in Armidale NSW to George Whateley Holmes and Mary Jane nee Doak
She had been living in Croydon NSW and was a dentist's assistant, she never married
She was buried in Rookwood Cemetery
She was my paternal grandmother's cousin
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2 March 1813
My 5xgreat-grandmother, Johanna Pieterse, was born in Zierikzee, Zeeland. Her parents were Elias Pieterse, an innkeeper and coast guard, and Johanna Mens, who took over the inn after Elias died in 1825. Johanna Pieterse married Hendrik Blok, a shoemaker, and they had seven children before moving to Amsterdam in around 1855. Johanna died there on 22 July 1857, aged just 44. Hendrik remarried twice and died in 1880.
2 March 1855
Jan Stevensen Kieft, my 5xgreat-grandfather, died in Nijkerk, Gelderland aged 69. He had lived in the surrounding villages of Nijkerk all his life, working on farms. He married Jannetje Hannissen Haverkamp in 1819 and they had eleven children. Jannetje died less than a year before Jan. His military description has him at 5.5 feet, with dark brown hair and blue eyes.
Jan was the father of:
2 March 1872
Hendrika Kieft, my 4xgreat-grandmother, died in Putten, Gelderland aged just 32. She was a farmer's wife and had four children. She died 37 days after her husband, and their children were placed into Putten orphanage. Thankfully, they were later raised by Hendrika's sister and her brother-in-law.
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2nd March 1836 - my great-grandfather, William Pay was born, the ninth child of a farm labourer in East Kent. He joined the Royal Navy at 17 and served for 20 years, retiring with the petty officer title of Admiral's Coxswain.
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Hello Mr/Mrs/Ms Top-of-the-hill. I think this is the first time you have joined in with these threads. i hope we meet you again.
Today I have just one 2nd cousin x 2, Ernest William Cant, born in 1906.
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3 March 1816
Maria van Zevet died in Ter Aar, Zuid-Holland aged 76, at her daughter's home. Maria was born circa 1740, and was married to Pieter Bergman who was buried in Nootdorp on 31 October 1787. I know of only one child, Cornelia, who married German tailor Frans Levarth.
3 March 1819
Trijntje de Morie died in Haarlem aged 76. She was born in Haarlem on 14 February 1743 and was married to Barend Groeneveld, who died in 1793. They had six sons. Her death certificate lists Trijntje's surname as "Demorie".
Both of them are my 6xgreat-grandmothers, and on my ahnentafel are separated only by Trijntje's husband Barend. What a coincidence that both died on the same date, at the same age, three years apart.
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Jane Denyer married WIlliam Chitty in 1697 at Godalming
William was a maltster and Jane was daughter of a mercer
George was sued three times by a sister in law in chancery cases over a will
My 6 x great grandparents
Ethel Mary Boyce died in Chertsey in 1936
THe only surviving daughter of George Boyce (a chemist JP and county councillor) and Ann Ogden Boyce nee Brown (who wrote a book about her quaker ancestry).
Ethel was a composer, musician and music teacher.
She was briefly engaged to the composer Edward German Jones, but never married.
She was a brilliant scholar at the Royal Academy of Music, she was Lady Goldsmid Scholar,
1886, Potter Exhibitioner, 1886, won the Sterndale Bennett Prize the same year, and the Lucas Medal for composition, 1889
She seems to have probably devoted much time to nursing her mother thugh the family employed a nurse
(2nd cousin twice removed)
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John Cawthorn my 4 x g.g.uncle was baptised at Hacconby, Lincolnshire in 1776
John Rogers my 3 x g.g.uncle was baptised in Swineshead, Lincolnshire in 1780
Margaret Benson (nee Wane) my 5 x g.grandmother was baptised at St Cuthbert’s Church, Aldingham, Lancashire in 1722/23. She only had 2 children with my 5 x g.g.grandfather William , twin boys who were only 5 months old when he died in 1852. Surprisingly she didn’t marry again for 13 years and then aged 42 she married a toyboy aged 23.
Maria Wright (late Alden, formerly Collett) died in 1928 aged 85 in Hull, Yorkshire. Interestingly, her “husband” George Wright appears to have been about 13 years younger than her, but all the census whilst she is living with him show her age as at least 7 years younger than she actually was. On the 1911 census, when her sister was living with them, she even reduced her sister’s age by a similar amount to keep up the pretext. However, this didn’t fool George, as he registered her death giving her correct age. ;)
Charles Gilchrist my 4 x g.grandfather was buried at St Botolph’s Church, Boston in 1829. It is because one of his ancestors was researching the family and came to visit me, that I started researching the rest of my family tree.
And last but not least Chloe one of my granddaughters was born at Basingstoke in 2009. Happy 4th Birthday, Chloe. Here's a photo of her, holding her new photo from playgroup.
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My youngest son was born 33 years ago ;D
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My great-grandmother Margaret Jaffray, wife of great-grandfather William Waugh, died in Stirling on 3rd March 1901. William's first wife, Catherine Rutherford, had died in 1873.
William's only child was my grandfather Robert Jaffray Waugh, Procurator Fiscal. He married Isabella Jaffray, daughter of Margaret's brother James Jaffray.
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3rd March 1843, Alexander Raitt was born in Belhelvie, Aberdeenshire. He was the son of James Raitt and Eliza Sheriffs, though James was married to Christian Crichton at the time. On Aexander's death certificate, Christian Crichton is named as his mother but the Kirk Sessions records tell a different story. He was a 3 x great uncle.
In 1908, Ernest Harvey Raitt was born in Aberdeen, son of Peter Raitt and Jane Milne. He was my great uncle, younger brother of my nan, Ethel Raitt. he married Justine Robertson in 1931, had two sons, who shall remain nameless as they might well still be alive and he died in 1979 in Forres, Morayshire.
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3rd March, 1903. Reginald Stubbs born in Seoul, Manitoba, Canada .... he is a first cousin once removed (according to my relationship calculator) and died in 1979.
Reg Stubbs was the second born son of my Great Aunt Lizzie (the one who ran away to Canada) who was sister to my maternal grand-mother. Reg married Capitola Fern Howard and they had eleven children in twenty years ! I have met about half of them in Canada, but one thing I found when idley playing with Ancestry/Google one day, is that Reg's wife can trace her ancestry back to Katherine Howard, fifth wife of Henry VIII .... remember the rhyme ? "Divorced, beheaded and died; Divorced, beheaded, survived " .... she was wife #5, and lost her head !!
But what intrigued me more, is that her lineage also has Pomeroys in it, and I think we are connected very loosely many, many generations back.
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I have met about half of them in Canada, but one thing I found when idley playing with Ancestry/Google one day, is that Reg's wife can trace her ancestry back to Katherine Howard, fifth wife of Henry VIII .... remember the rhyme ? "Divorced, beheaded and died; Divorced, beheaded, survived " .... she was wife #5, and lost her head !!
Without having given birth to any children, which makes it incredibly clever for anyone to trace their family back to her!
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True Jen - it cant be a direct line. Wasn't Katherine related to Anne Boleyn as well, first cousins I think.
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Yes, they were first cousins.
Maybe the link actually goes back to Catherine Howard's parents. Did she have siblings.... Hang on, I need to check......
Good grief, there were dozens of them. I should imagine we are all related to them somehow! :o
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My Dear Uncle John was born on this day in 1924 (died last year)
And an advance one for tomorrow he and my Aunt who is still with us were married 1949.
He married the girl next door
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I have met about half of them in Canada, but one thing I found when idley playing with Ancestry/Google one day, is that Reg's wife can trace her ancestry back to Katherine Howard, fifth wife of Henry VIII .... remember the rhyme ? "Divorced, beheaded and died; Divorced, beheaded, survived " .... she was wife #5, and lost her head !!
Without having given birth to any children, which makes it incredibly clever for anyone to trace their family back to her!
Hang on a bit ! I'm not claiming royal ancestry for me; its just the hints I picked up from Ancestry/Google about the un-usually named 'Capitola' .... and we all know how accurate A/G can be !
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George William Suley (by marriage) my uncle was born in Manchester in 1902
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George William Suley and Gladys Cockett (my aunt, sister of my mother) married at Harpurhey Wesleyan Chapel, Harpurhery in 1925. Perhaps Gladys chose that date so that George would never forget the anniversary. He was one of my favourite uncles.
Harriet Howard my husband’s 2 x g.g.aunt married John Lewis at St Nicholas Church, Liverpool in 1849
Anne Stanton my 5 x g.g.aunt was baptised in Rippingale, Lincolnshire in 1734/5
William Hobson my 6 x g.g.uncle was baptised at All Hallows Church, Kirkburton, Huddersfield, Yorkshire in 1675/6
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George Bowker Cock was born on the 3rd or the 5th March 1813 at Haughton, Lancs and was baptised at St Lawrence's Denton in April. (The birth date in the PR is not so clear)
As many of the Cock family did, and 's' was added after about 1851.
He married Mary Bond at Manchester Cathedral in 1835
He was a hatter for half his life then became a bookkeeper
While at Denton he was a parish clerk there
His death has been a bit of a mystery.
There is nothing in the GRO index, Lancs and Cheshire BMDs, Cheshire PRs on FindMyPast and Denton etc in the Manchester records now on Ancestry. There was one record for 1863 which is the wrong man (wrong age, wrong wife on the Probate calendar) but adescendant has given me a clue. He is however a bit of a glitch in the databases died 1861 to 1871, possibly in 1863
My great great grandfather
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Only a few today and they are distant ancestors.
Alfred Stanton my 1st cousin 5 times removed was baptised in Donington in Holland, Lincolnshire in 1819
Ann Stanton my 7 x g.g.aunt was baptised in Morton by Bourne in 1678/9
Jane Benson my 4 x g.g.aunt was baptised in Wigton, Cumberland in 1776
Ada Pemberton my 1st cousin twice removed died in Barton, Eccles, Lancashire in 1916
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His death has been a bit of a mystery.
Stonechat, did he die out of town, or change his name again? Perhaps as a parish clerk he was not as "good" as he should have been. ::)
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One from me today:
5th March 1720, Samuel Bland was baptised in Middleton-in-Teesdale. A 7 x great uncle. I keep meaning to go up to the Middleton area to look around graveyards - maybe this will spur me on.
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His death has been a bit of a mystery.
Stonechat, did he die out of town, or change his name again? Perhaps as a parish clerk he was not as "good" as he should have been. ::)
NO the rest of the family stayed out. His wife did not die until 1898.
I put it down to the fallibility of both the gro index and parish records
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5 March 1800
Cornelisje Gaerts, my 6xgreat-grandmother, died in in Nijkerk. She married Steven Jansen Kieft, a farm worker and had several children. I don't know how old she was yet, as I haven't traced a birth/christening record. Very luckily, I do know her parents names though, as they were mentioned on Cornelisje's son's marriage certificate. Steven Kieft died in 1821, also in Nijkerk.
5 March 1864
Johanna Magdalena Foppen - known as Naatje, my 5xgreat-grandmother, died in Naarden, Noord-Holland aged 71. She was born there on 29 July 1792, the illegitimate daughter of Magdalena Foppen and Lucas Castisch - I know nothing about either of them. Naatje herself never married, but had two children. The first, in 1815, was named Johannes, and the second, Jacob, was born and died in 1828. Johannes moved to Maastricht and was an army sergeant, but died in 1858. Naatje, formerly a servant, stopped working in about the 1840s, and later lived in an old person's home, where she died.
6 March 1802
Hilletje Gerrits Vliek, my 6xgreat-grandmother, died in Putten, Gelderland aged just 25. Born in Putten on 9 April 1776, she was married first married to Willem Jansen van Diest, and had two sons with him. Willem died in 1798, aged only 29, leaving Hilletje a widow at 22. Only one of their sons survived. On 1 January 1800 Hilletje married Jansen Aartsen van Meerveld, a farmer, and had one son. After Hilletje died, Jansen remarried to Nennetje van Diest (sister of Willem), but sadly both died aged 33.
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My paternal grandparents Ada Pullen and Frederick Douglas married at St Michael's Cricklewood in 1913.
As they were from Egham / Staines area I wondered about this, until I found that their first son Frederick (my late uncle) was born on the 15th July (also in Cricklewood) so Ada was pregnant and keeping out of sight to arrive back in Egham married and with a child.
Frederick died in September 1953. I was not yet 2 so don't remember him. Ada died in December 1984.
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25 years ago i gave birth to my son, he was determined to do his own thing coming into the world and has kept that up throughout his quarter of a century. Determination and a belief in himself caused his teachers to throw their hands up in despair, but he stuck to his ideals and that is what has made him the man he is today. I am extremely proud of him and what he has achieved. Happy birthday to my little soldier who became a big soldier.
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Happy Birthday to mumjo's son. ;D Any son is something to be proud of, but more so a soldier son.
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Henry Collett my 1st cousin 3 times removed was born at Metfield, Suffolk in 1823
Annie Elizabeth Whittaker my husband’s aunt was baptised at Christ Church, Denton, Lancs in 1904
Martha Stanton my 2 x g.g.aunt was baptised in Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire in 1825
Mary Dalby my 6 x g.g.aunt was baptised in Heapham, Lincolnshire in 1724/5
Nancy Dawson my husband’s 2 x g.g.aunt was baptised at St Mary the Virgin Church, Prestwich, Lancashire in 1814
John Thomas Brand my g.g.uncle was buried in Manchester in 1899. His parents moved around so much - his father was a hairdresser/parfumier and family legend has it that he was hairdresser to the great and good – that out of 6 children, only John Thomas and one of his sisters was actually born in the same place. My theory is that although his father was a hairdresser, he was also an excessive drinker, which killed him, and was probably moving around either to avoid his debts, or to avoid the people he’d upset.
Henry Collett my 7 x g.grandfather was buried in Eye, Suffolk in 1678/9. So far I’ve only traced 3 children, but in a will dated 1681, one of his brother’s makes reference to 'the eldest son of brother Henry Collett - this being John Collett’. As one of the children I’ve traced was also a son born 2 years before John Collett, from the will I assume he had died prior to 1681.
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On March 6th 1877, my 4xG grandfather Thomas McCreary died in Blinkbonnie in the parish of Slamannan, Scotland, the same parish in which my birth was registered. He was an agricultural labourer, which would fit in as his father was a farmer. Thomas was born in Ireland about 1811. As yet I don't know where, I've only dipped a toe in my Irish ancestry so far and find it a bit daunting to be honest. I do know from an 1855 marriage, the Griffiths Valuation and a 1941 obituary from America, where three families came from.
Thomas was the son of another Thomas Mcreary and Margaret Broomfield and was married to Hannah Bingham. His first three children James, Margaret and Mary (my 3xG grandmother) were all born in Ireland, Mary's birth being in 1834. His next child John was born in Scotland in 1840 so I know they moved from Ireland to Scotland between these dates. John was the informant on his death certificate.
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7 March 1833
My 5xgreat-grandparents Peter van Eerde and Hendrika Keller married in Vollenhove. The certificate shows Peter as 27 and a farmer, and Hendrika as 22 and a maid. They had six children before Hendrika died aged 35 in 1846. Peter later remarried to Hendrikjen Regelink, and he died in 1883 aged 78. Hendrikjen lived right up to 1915.
7 March 1886
My 5x-great-grandmother Gerritje Voren died in Muiderberg aged 81. She was born there on 24 February 1805 and married Lammert Slokker, a labourer and gardener, in 1827. They had twelve children before Lammert died in 1850. After his death, Gerritje worked as a livestock farmer in her own right right into her seventies. She stopped working only shortly before her death.
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Oh dear.
One of my difficult Foyle/Fripp group was born today in 1784 .... Frances Foyle. Born in Witchampton, Dorset .... and that's all I know about her.
I MUST get to sorting them out ........... :( :-\
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On March 7th 1825 Barbara Wardlaw married Alexander Brown in Edinburgh. She was the third child of my 4xG grandparents Peter Wardlaw and Agnes Wallace and lived in Hermiston where her father was the village postmaster till well into his 70's. She was named after her paternal grandmother and had 4 sisters, Agnes, Jemima, Margaret and Christian and 3 brothers, John, Alexander and the youngest son George, my 3xG grandfather. I can find no births to this couple, no death certificates and they seem to be missing from the 1841 and 1851 census. Did they both die young and the deaths weren't recorded ? Possibly but her family are very good at recording BDM's. Another possibility is they could have left Scotland, as yet I just don't know.
The Wardlaw name seems to appear in Scotland sometime around the Norman Conquest and is thought to have come from northern England, maybe around the time of the Harrowing of the North. Whether mine were descendants of this bunch is anybody's guess ;D
March 7th was also the date when Alexander Bell patented the telephone in 1876. Did he ever wonder that almost 140 years later passengers the world over would be driven to distraction by some fool wittering into their mobile "I'm on a train".
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Ann Collett, my 5 x g.g.aunt was baptised at Eye, Suffolk in 1696/7
Thomas Singleton my 6 x g.g.uncle was baptised at St Peter’s Church, Huddersfield, Yorks in 1651/2
Hannah Spraggett my husband’s 3 x g.g.aunt was baptised in Leamington Hastings, Warwickshire, in 1781.
Fanny Lockwood my 3 x g.g.aunt was baptised at Cumberworth, Yorkshire in 1784
Philologus Collett was buried in Westerfield, Suffolk in 1646/7. His will which he made on 7 November 1646 curiously was proved on the day of his burial. Philologus was named in the Chancery court proceedings of 10th June 1601 relating to the mental state of his mother Joan Collett (nee Dameron) and her competency to manage the estate inherited from her father. On the burial record of his eldest daughter, some 15 years later, his occupation was given as a Woollen Draper.
John Isaac Cockett & Alice Catherine Brand my g.grandparents were married at Manchester Cathedral in 1867. John was aged 24 and Alice nearly 20 (her birthday 30 March). I’m not sure at what point John and Alice moved to Manchester as in 1861 they were both living in Lincolnshire. It could be that John was moving to Manchester as he was a master baker and that as Alice had had a rather peripatetic childhood she decided to move with him and put down roots. At the age of 4 (on the 1851 census) although born in Northampton (her parents originally from Lincolnshire) she was living with “an aunt and uncle” in Sussex, her parents were living in London and although they had another child then, that is no reason to ship the eldest one out. By the time she was 14 (1861 census) she was living with an uncle in a pub, back in Lincolnshire. Where she was between census, of course, I don’t know, it could be that she went back to her family and moved between London, Surrey, and Hampshire before ending up in Lincolnshire
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Thomas Rock Garnsey, my second cousin three times removed, died on 7th March 1847. He was born in North Curry, Somerset, in 1792, and certainly represents another age. I have been lucky enough to find out a good deal about him, and here are some of the discoveries. I hope I am not imposing too much on other people on this thread with such a long posting!
He was ordained deacon 8th April 1819 by the Bishop of Chester; "lit" - the common abbreviation for 'literate' or 'literatus'. Its use indicates that a clergyman did not possess a degree, but that he was judged by the bishop to possess sufficient learning to qualify for ordination. Ordained priest by the Bishop of London 12th June the same year, he was appointed Chaplain on 11th June!
He was appointed Colonial chaplain to Sierra Leone by the Government on the recommendation of the Church Missionary Society, together with the Rev Samuel Flood, sailing from Gravesend on 29th January and arriving in St Mary's in The Gambia on 7th March 1819. The boat sent to take them ashore capsized well offshore and they were all thrown into the sea; those on shore thought they would not be saved, but some canoes did reach them and rescue them, just before sharks were seen. He wrote, "The hand of our heavenly father was visible throughout the whole. Oh, what can I render unto the Lord, who is the health of my countenance and my God!" His state of health forced him and his wife to return home in 1821, leaving on January 22nd and arriving on 7th April.
This was all very early: the slave trade was banned in 1807 but it continued despite the Royal Navy's efforts; Sierra Leone was an early freed-slave settlement but not safe from violence from slavers let alone from disease.
After his return, he became incumbent of Christ Church, Berry Hill, as this extract from a “Life” of Thomas describes: The future shewed him that he was to be a missionary still, but at home, in the Forest of Dean. Nor could the Trustees of Christ Church, Berry Hill, have made a more suitable choice. His previous career tended to fit him for the second and corresponding field of mission work. The native population of Western Africa was scarcely more wild and unenlightened than the uncultivated and lawless Foresters of that day. ….. He entered upon his pastoral charge in June, 1824, when thirty-two years old and rapidly won upon the people by his affectionate earnestness. They saw he desired to promote their higher interests, irrespective of himself, and so they gathered round him, continuing an attached flock, and he their good shepherd, until death separated them. The fact that he found them living in hardly less error than his former Negro acquaintances, whose black exterior re-appeared before him in the grimy faces of his collier people, excited his pity and stimulated him to greater efforts for their welfare. He found but one remedy for each of their cases, namely, the inculcation of Christian principles with corresponding life.
Years passed away, during which he was seldom absent from his post, each Lord's Day giving the usual Morning and Afternoon Services himself, and in the evening frequently officiating a third time, for the Rev H. Berkin, in the Lydbrook School Room, three miles off.
Mr Garnsey's sermons are said to have been more of the plain and practical, than of the striking or aspiring character. ….. On very rare occasions, he took his subject with reference to instances of criminal life, revealed by the Monmouth Assizes. The crowds that flocked to hear him at such seasons were observed to have been impressed by his words. Probably his deep concern for the poor wretch, John Harris, alias "Poicefoot," induced him, in the first instance, to take such a step, in the hope that others of like character might become reformed.
Most evenings of the week were employed in giving expositions of Holy Scripture in the cottages of Coleford Lane-End, Joyford, etc., whilst each Thursday night, the original service, out of which the Church arose, was still continued. By day he was engaged in going about from house to house, visiting the sick, and relieving the needy to so bountiful an extent as often to inconvenience himself. In this manner his life and strength were more than occupied. His health had been failing for some time, until at length, whilst engaged in preaching, he sank down in the pulpit.
Such was the touching circumstance under which he bade his flock farewell. He died eventually at Bristol, awaiting his change with extraordinary calmness, and lies in the Arnos Vale Cemetery, but although not permitted to end his days in the Forest, many were his affectionate messages to his poor people. "Tell them," preached the Rev. H. Poole, in his pathetic Funeral Sermon of 14th of March, 1847, "that I loved them as much as a minister could love his flock, and that I felt assured that they loved me."
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Graham - Whisper it very softly there are some who think the Foresters haven't changed much
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Graham - Whisper it very softly there are some who think the Foresters haven't changed much
Hmmm......at least as far as I know Thomas is my only connection to the Forest!
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Graham - Whisper it very softly there are some who think the Foresters haven't changed much
Oy ! My daughter lives in the Forest .... and her ten year old son qualifies to be a free miner !!
But what a fascinating story .... you are very lucky to have found so much information.
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That is a wonderful story. I am very envious that so little has come to light about any of my ancestors, apart from my thieving g.g.granny and my lifeboat crewing g.grandfather, both of whose stories have been told here.
I missed one yesterday:
Baptised 6th March 1709, Ralph Littlefair, in Hamsterley, Co. Durham.
Today in 1961, a 1st x 3 cousin, Mary Riddell, nee Raitt, died in Monymusk, Aberdeenshire.
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George Bowker Cock was born on the 3rd or the 5th March 1813 at Haughton, Lancs and was baptised at St Lawrence's Denton in April. (The birth date in the PR is not so clear)
As many of the Cock family did, and 's' was added after about 1851.
He married Mary Bond at Manchester Cathedral in 1835
He was a hatter for half his life then became a bookkeeper
While at Denton he was a parish clerk there
His death has been a bit of a mystery.
There is nothing in the GRO index, Lancs and Cheshire BMDs, Cheshire PRs on FindMyPast and Denton etc in the Manchester records now on Ancestry. There was one record for 1863 which is the wrong man (wrong age, wrong wife on the Probate calendar) but adescendant has given me a clue. He is however a bit of a glitch in the databases died 1861 to 1871, possibly in 1863
My great great grandfather
Since this email a 'gravestone record' has come to light
Goerge Bowker Cock d 1863
However this is not the George Cocks on the GRO death index and as I said no burial or other record
I owe a contact on the Cocks side for this
He saw it in one of the local libraries
I guessed it would be with Tameside to me and they confirmed it
He and wife and daughter - none of whom is in the burials
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Have you found any musicians in your ancestry Jen ??
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Oh yes.
When I first started to play the concertina, over thirty years ago, my mother said that there had been two squeeze-boxes, of different types, on the mantelpiece in her parents' house, when she was a child. She knew they had belonged to an uncle and she thought that they had been returned to the family following his death in 1917, Ypres.
Then, some years ago, I posted a photograph of my great uncle for dating and other bits of information. I gave his full name. Some time later, I had a reply from a totally gobsmacked Rootschatter who had googled her grandfather's name and come across my post; because my great uncle and her granddfather were the same person.
We both play boxes for morris dancing.... my sister and both of my daughters also play.
Last summer we met and talked about him a great deal. It turns out that he joined the army as a musician. We're not absolutely sure of what he played in the army but the concertina and the melodeon had been his. So not only a musician but a box player!
It's definitely in the genes. :D
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Those are wonderful genes to have ! I hope the two little boys will also have them !!
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The tiny one was enjoying playing the maracas the other day, until he hit himself in the face.
His cousin loves to dance and sing :D
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It's definitely in the genes
I wish it was in my genes, my grandfather was an oboe player and musical director with the BBC, and his wife, my gran, was a classically trained pianist. Of their 6 children, one was a semi-professional pianist, (his daughter was a beautiful singer) and my dad without any training could play the piano, any tune he'd heard on the radio he could play. Meanwhile I had about 10 years of piano lessons and barely got passed Grade 3 and of all our children, only my daughter can play the piano. However, the musical genes have passed to her 13 year old daughter, who is at Grade 7 oboeoops flute, grade 6 drums, she also dances,sings and plays the piano - not both at the same time - oddly her brother can just about play the drums, can't sing, can't dance, and really hasn't a musical bone in his body.
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Getting ahead of the calendar by about two hours:
Walter Scott Gould Barrett, my great-uncle, was born on 8th March 1868 in Rodborough, Gloucestershire. He emigrated with two of his brothers, Algernon Hurley Barrett and Douglas Graham Barrett. Coincidentally Douglas' sister-in-law, Mary Lydia Rheinfrank was also a March 8th baby, in New York in 1880. I know next to nothing more about Mary.
The brothers were involved in Barrett Brothers, a company in New York.
His obituary fills in so much detail:
MR BARRETT'S SAD DEATH
One of Our Young Businessmen Succumbs Today
DIES OF PERITONITIS
Sketch of a Life Which, Though Brief, Had Abundant Promise and Plenty of Sunshine
Walter S G Barrett, of firm of Barrett Bros. Co., whose illness has been mentioned in the Times-Press, died at Thrall Hospital, at 2 o'clock this morning, of peritonitis.
Mr Barrett was taken ill on Friday, 20th November and on Monday, 3rd December was removed to Thrall Hospital, where an operation was performed that day for appendicitis. The case was a very bad one, but he withstood the operation very well, and was getting along nicely until Sunday, when peritonitis developed and he failed rapidly until the end came this morning.
Walter Scott Gould Barrett was a son of the late William Parish Barrett, of Her Majesty's East India Company's Service, who resided in Cheltenham, England, and was born on 8th March, 1868 in England. He received his education at Cheltenham College, and came to the United States in 1887, going west, but a few months later he returned east, where he became engaged in business, and was, at the time of his death, the senior member of the firm of Barrett Bros. Co., manufacturers of preserves, etc., on West Main Street, this city.
Mr Barrett married the only daughter of the late Captain Francis Telfer, I.N., of London, England, and leaves her a widow with three young children.
Also surviving are four brothers and five sisters, all living in England, with the exception of Algernon H and Douglas G Barrett, residing in this city.
This death is a particularly sad one. Mr Barrett was an enterprising and alert young man, with keen business instincts, and was an expert in his line of trade - preserving fruits and the making of jellies. His goods of the first quality and admired by all who were ever used them. He had built up quite an extensive trade, selling to the large hotels and the institutions, the Pullman dining cars and the ocean liners and steamships. His trade had prospered, being founded upon merit, and he had taken several prizes at exhibitions of foodstuffs and confectionery, while the US government had set the seal of its approval upon his products as being absolutely pure. He was beginning to make money and build up a big trade, when he is suddenly cut down in the flower of his youth. It is indeed a cause of mourning, and the bereaved family and brothers have the sincere sympathy of all our people.
Personally, Mr Barrett was most affable and genial and won many friends by his frank and hearty manner. Everyone was glad to see him prosper and hoped that the full measure of success might be his.
He was a man of handsome physique, strong and athletic, and, before his illness, was the picture of health. He was never ill, and was a healthy, hearty, happy man.
He was a member of Grace Church, and there the funeral will be held on Friday afternoon.
Had Mr Barrett lived to carry out all of his ambitions suggested, we verily believe he would have become one of our leading citizens, and this fact renders still more sad and death in which the prop and support of the little family is taken away, business success interfered with and that the loved brother laid low.
Transcribed from a cutting from the Middletown Times-Press
An obit in the Cheltenham Looker-on:
Mr. Walter S. G. Barrett, whose death occurred at Middletown, U.S.A. on December 12th, and which we recorded last week, was a son of the late William Parish Barrett, of Her Majesty's East India Company's Service, who resided in Cheltenham, and was born on March 8th, 1868, England. He received his education at Cheltenham College. The Middletown Times-Press of December 12th contained an appreciative obituary notice from which we learn that [..... quotes the US obit verbatim....] Mr. Walter Scott Gould Barrett, whose obituary we print above, entered as a pupil at Cheltenham College in 1877, under the Principalship of the Rev. Herbert Kynaston, D.D. He was a brother of Mrs. Cardew, wife of Mr. G. A. Cardew, M.R.C.S., of Cheltenham, Lieutenant-Colonel of the Royal Gloucestershire Engineers (Volunteers). [Editor, Looker-On.]
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Once again, mine has precious little detail but here we go anyway:
Yesterday, I mentioned Ralph Littlefair, who was born in 1709.
Today is his parents' wedding anniversary. In 1697, Ralph Littlefair married Sarah Kipling in Bowes. My 7 x great grandparents.
In 1750, James Martin was baptised in Belhelvie. A 5 x great grandfather.
1789, Elizabeth Bushby was baptised in Spennithorne. 5 x great-aunt.
1844, William Daniel born in Cruden, 3 x great-uncle.
Can I add tomorrow's as well, as I shan't be here to do it properly.
9th March 1841, Joseph Bushby died in Spennithorne, aged two years. 1st cousin x5
9th March 1974, Alice Lynn, nee Wright died in Redcar. She was the wife of a distant cousin.
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I was born 60 years ago today ;D ;D ;D
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Happy Birthday Carol!!! :) ;) ;D
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Happy Birthday To You!
I hope you are having a lovely day. :D
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Happy Birthday Carol - have a great day.
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Happy Birthday Carol.
Just a few for me today.
Alice Whittaker my husband’s 2 x g.g.aunt was born in Cheshire in 1818
Francis Singline my 2nd cousin twice removed was born in Falmouth, Tasmania in 1882
Elizabeth Bagshaw my 5 x g.grandmother was baptised in Penistone, Yorkshire in 1711/12
Elizabeth Woodward my 3 x g.g.aunt was baptised at St Laurence Church, Frodsham, Cheshire in 1773
Mary Tubbs my 3 x g.g.aunt was baptised at Holy Trinity Church, Haddenham, Cambridgeshire in 1795
Esther Postlethwaite my 4 x g.g.aunt was baptised in Kirkby Ireleth, Lancashire in 1755
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My Great Aunt Ethel
Ethel Gertrude Douglas died today in 1973
Ethel never married and worked in the family baker's in Egham Hight Street.
She was romantically linked to the explorer Howard Aubrey Ninnis, who went on a couple of Shackleton's expeditions. Apparently members of both families expected them to marry. Don't know what happened but he went to New Zealand and married there.
Ethel soldiered on running the bakery as other family members died. It must have closed about 1970
I recall her as a small woman with a very large dog.
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Stonechat - She looks a very pretty, thoughtful lady.
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More distant ancestors. I wonder if they ever thought that many generations ahead of them, people would be researching their lives?
Charles Connor my husband’s 3 x g.grandmother married Jane Brook, his second wife, at St Joseph’s Chapel, Liverpool in 1857
Thomas Woodard my 4 x g.g.uncle was baptised at St Laurence, Frodsham in 1745/6. Interestingly his father’s surname was Woodard, but his eldest son my 4 x g.grandfather added a W to his name making Woodward.
Mary Woodward my 2 x g.g.aunt and great niece of Thomas Woodward above was baptised at St Laurence Church, Frodsham, Cheshire in 1806
Joane Stanton my 9 x g.g.aunt was baptised in Morton by Bourne, Lincolnshire in 1613/14
Dan Stanton my 7 x g.g.uncle who was also a g.nephew of Joane Stanton above and a g.uncle of John Stanton below was baptised in Morton by Bourne, Lincolnshire in 1684/85
John Stanton my 5 x g.g.uncle and 2 x g.g.nephew of Joane Stanton above was baptised in Rippingale in 1735/36
Joseph Bagshaw my 6 x g.g.uncle was baptised in Bradfield, Yorkshire in 1675/6
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Happy Birthday Carol
Elizabeth
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On 9th March 1906, Hugh Wright, my great grandmother's eldest child with her first husband Robert Wright, married Bella Ramsay in the same church manse his parents had married. Bella was a relation of the well known piper and writer of bagpipe music, Donald Ramsay. Hugh had three full siblings, Elizabeth, John and Robina. Robina was named after her father who died 19 days before her birth. He also had two half siblings, Jane from my great grandmother's second marriage and after whom my mother is named and James, my grandfather, who was born inbetween the marriages and I don't think I will ever find out who his father was.
On 9th March 1793, Jemima Wardlaw, the second daughter of my 4xG grandparents was born in Hermiston. As I mentioned in a previous post I don't know why she was named Jemima. Her grandmothers were Agnes and Barbara, these names went to the first and third daughters.
On 9th March 1788, Janet Ross, the eldest daughter of my 5xG grandparents Peter Ross and Agnes Mason was born. Her siblings were Thomas, Susanna ( my 4xG grandmother), Alexander, Mary and William. All the children were born in Colinton, now a suburb of Edinburgh. Lewis Balfour, the grandfather of the writer Robert Louis Stevenson was at one time the minister of Colinton church. Robert's middle names were Lewis Balfour and as a child he spent his summer holidays in Colinton.
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10th March 1904 - my great grandfather Edward Gaunt died of diabetes and related disease.
He'd been a stockbroker and mine manager and travelled quite extensively in Eastern Australia while living in Tasmania.
He'd loved sailing and owned a couple of very nice large yachts capable of making the east coast voyage from Launceston to Hobart - one of these yachts he raffled to get himself out of debt at one stage! :o :o
He managed to be in and out of bankruptcy most of his life - at the time of his death he was bankrupt leaving a wife and a few young children. The family had 14 children but most were up and away or had died - only the younger few were still at home.
Wiggy
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Susanna Wise and Joseph Woodward(s) married today in Packwood, Warwickshire in 1789
(a small village)
They had 6 children, but Joseph died of unknown cause in 1802.
Susanna may have remarried as I cannot find a burial for her.
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My gt. aunt Minnie Louisa Pain, was born in 1892 in Plumstead; daughter of James Ottley and Amelia Sophia (nee Rainer). She was their sixth child. Minnie married Thomas Charles Roden in 1914 in Islington. There were no children; Minnie suffered 2 miscarriages and she died in 1974.
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Simeon Edward Salter my 1st cousin 3 times removed was born in Falmouth, Tasmania in 1863. His mother was transported to Van Dieman’s Land. More about her on 24th March. Simeon was the nephew of George Reuben Mumby below.
Harry Dawson my husband’s grandfather was baptised at Manchester Cathedral in 1872. Harry’s son-in-law was the 3 x g.g.grandson of William Spraggett below.
William Spraggett my husband’s 4 x g.grandfather was baptised in Leamington Hastings in 1749/50. His wife was baptised 10 years and 17 days later. They had 15 children over 27 years. My husband’s 3 x g.grandmother was no.13.
Elisabeth Tubbs my 3 x g.g.aunt was baptised at Holy Trinity Church, Haddenham, Cambridgeshire in 1793
Fanny Frost (nee Collett) my g.g.aunt died in Hull in 1927 aged 80. She lived with my g.grandparents after her husband died in 1906 and because my g.gran was pretending to me much younger than she actually was, she also had to change Fanny’s age for the 1911 census. ::) My dad who was called Francis William, always told us he was named after his aunt Fanny.
George Reuben Mumby and Mary Ann Stanton my 2 x g.grandparents married at St Botolph’s Church, Boston, Lincolnshire in 1842. They had 10 children, the first two in Boston, the next one in Yarmouth, Norfolk and the rest in Hull. Child number 9 became my g.grandmother. They were married for 36 years before Mary Ann died, at which point their youngest child was 16. However, on the 1881 census, George aged 63 was living with a widowed housekeeper aged 39 and her daughter. He married the housekeeper in May 1881
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Today in 1759, my 5 x great grandfather, John Crichton, was baptised in Methlick, Aberdeenshire.
That's all folks! ;)
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Today in 1828, Eli Lane was baptised in North Perrott, Somerset. 1st cousin 4 times removed, whatever that means!
A bit closer to home, my grandfather Tom Sealey ended the first part of his military service in the UK on this day in 1901 and was sent to serve in South Africa in the second Boer War.
My 2nd gg uncle Mark Sheppard was buried in Westwood Wilshire on this day in 1836.
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9 March 1823
My 4xgreat-grandfather, Giovanni Antonio Vitali, was born in Druogno, Piemonte. His parents, Pietro Vitali and Antonia Maria Beccari, were farmers in the area. Giovanni was the second of nine children. He argued with his father and at sixteen left Italy to live in the Netherlands, walking most of the way. When he was eighteen, he was forced to return to Italy for compulsory military duty. Upon his return to Amsterdam, he started as a chimney sweep apprentice. His father sent him letters and money but they never saw eachother again. Giovanni married a Dutch (a quarter French and a quarter German) servant, Sophia Pardoen, with whom he had 12 children, in Den Haag in 1850. He later owned his own chimney sweep companies, and died in 1893 aged 70.
10 March 1819
My 5xgreat-grandparents, Jan Stevensen Kieft, a 33 year old day labourer, and Jannetje Hannissen Haverkamp, a 23 year old, were married in Nijkerk. They had eleven children and remained married until Jannetje died on 23 May 1854, aged 59. Jan died the following year aged 69.
10 March 1875
My 5xgreat-grandmother, Antonia Maria Beccari, died in Druogno aged 75. She had been born there on 9 August 1799, the daughter of Giovanni Battista Beccari and Antonia Maria Baratta. She married farmer Pietro Vitali and had nine children. Widowed in 1853, she remained in the area until her death.
11 March 1781
My 6xgreat-grandmother, Gerritje Giesbers Rakhorst, was born in Putten. She was the daughter of Gijsbert Hendriksen Rakhorst and Teunisje Willems. Gerritje married Elbert Otten van Donkersgoed and they worked as farmers, raising eleven children. Widowed in 1845, Gerritje died in 1859 aged 78.
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Jane or Jenney Hall, my great great great grandmother was born today in Rowarth near Hayfield in Derbyshire in 1805 to Joseph Hall and Mary aka Malley aka Molly Sikes.
Although I had Joseph and Mary's name some time ago from their grandson's nonconformist baptism (Christopher Hall Leah) , I only recent found Jane's baptism. UNfortunately this has not led to a further rush of success
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Jane Baxter my 6 x great aunt was born in Heckington, Lincs in 1711/12
Thomas Phillips Boyers my 1st cousin 4 times removed was born in Boston, Lincolnshire in 1853. He was the 2nd child of the family to be given this name, his namesake was born in July 1851 and died in June 1852.
Hannah Gaunt (nee Scholefield) my 3 x g.g.aunt was baptised at Almondbury Parish Church, Yorkshire in 1758
William Collett g.g.uncle was baptised in Poringland Magna, Norfolk in 1838.
John Cocket my 5 x g.grandfather was buried in Weston, Spalding, Lincolnshire in 1750/51
Martha Bayldon my 4 x g.g.aunt was buried in Almondbury Parish Church, Yorkshire in 1755
There is an obscure connection between Hannah Gaunt above and Martha Bayldon, in that Hannah was Martha’s nephew’s wife’s brother’s wife. ::) ::)
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Two births today (my tree programme only gives this detail on the calendar):
A gt. uncle, Arthur Henman Pain, born in 1898 in Plumstead; son of James Ottley and Amelia Sophia (nee Rainer). Sadly Arthur died in December 1898 and is buried in Plumstead Cemetery.
A 1st cousin 2R, Joshua Henry Barham, born in London; son of Henry and Louisa (nee Webster). Joshua married Margaret Eliza Marsh in 1895 at St. Matthews, Newington. He was a fruit and vegetable porter at Covent Garden. Accordingly to the 1911 census they had 12 children but 2 had died. I've found 10 and suspect the ones who died were twins but I've not bought any certs. Joshua died at home in Camberwell from carcinoma of the liver in 1932; Margaret died in 1947.
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1st Cousin 5 x R Peter Brown b 11/3/1837 Peebles, son of John & Helen Brown nee Gilchrist
My OH's birthday.
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11th March 1856, My 3 x great grandfather, James Shaw died in Duffus, Morayshire.
1963, Edith Annie Clark ( nee Smith) died in 1963, Middlesbrough. A 1st cousin x 2.
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Louisa Agnes Clarke my Great Great Aunt, was baptised today in Oundle, born at the family watchmaker's business in Oundle in 1868. She was know to my father and Aunts as Aunt Louie.
When other siblings had died, she owned the shop for many years, the last watchmaker in trhe family being Charles James Douglas worked there.
She died in 1955, leaving just under £7000.
Business was left to Charles, but I reckon he only ran it for another 5 or so years before retiring.
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My 2xgt. uncle Albert Henman Arthur Rainer was born in 1881 in Plumstead; son of Edward and Charlotte (nee Henman). Albert worked on the railways as an engine driver; he married Edith Kate Coleman in 1903 in Dartford. They had 6 children. The family moved to Devon and Albert died in 1958; Edith died in 1974.
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Lovely photograph Stonechat. :)
12th March 1823, my 2 x great grandmother, Mary Iley, was baptised in Yarm. Daughter of Matthew Iley and Ellen Cunion, she married James Bland in Bedale. She died in Bedale in 1875.
I shall do tomorrow's as well, as I might not have any internet access.
March 13th 1642, a 9 x great aunt, Marie Dickenson was baptised in Brough under Stainmore, Westmorland.
1683, Thomas Littlefair was baptised in Hamsterley Co. Durham. 8 x great uncle.
1831, John Munro married Ann Raitt in Old Machar, Aberdeenshire - 4 x great uncle and aunt.
1833 Alice Bushby was baptised in Spennithorne, Yorkshire. 1st cousin x 5.
I can also never forget that on March 12th 1999, my world and that of all of his family and friends, was rocked by the sudden and totally unexpected death of one of our morris side. One of the loveliest, funniest and gentlest men I have ever met.
Never forgotten and always missed, Sandy. xxx
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Benjamin Hobson my 2 x g.g.uncle was born in Denby, Yorkshire in 1811
Lillian Hannah Dawson my husband’s g.aunt was born in Hulme, Manchester in 1875
John Smith my 6 x g.g.uncle was baptised at St Mary’s Parish Church, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire in 1703/4
Thomas Boulton Benson my g.grandfather died at the Royal Infirmary, Hull in 1893 aged 36. The cause of death was Morbis Cordis Syncope (Heart Disease). He left a wife and 6 children, the youngest only 6 months old. Sadly for the family, his wife died just over 8 years later. His mother was the informant on Thomas' death certificate, I assume his wife didn't want to do it, or couldn't being left with 6 young children.
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On this day in March 1938, ie 75 years ago, my parents were married.
My mother died in 2005, aged 93
My father celebrated his 100th birthday a couple of weeks ago.
Just wanted to mark it somehow. Jazgran
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I've got one I forgot yesterday (Herbert Williams) and one for today (Elizabeth Foyle).
Herbert Williams was born 11th March, 1886, and was the youngest son of John & Mary Williams, my gr. grandparents. His older sister by seven years was Florence, my grandmother, and she always referred to him as 'poor Bertie'. I never knew why until I started on the FH .... and then found he died aged just 17, in August 1903. Maybe I ought to get his death certificate to find more .... but as we all know, there are dozens of certificates we could all buy !!
12th March 1780 saw the birth in Witchampton, Dorset, of Elizabeth Foyle, who I think
was the Elizabeth (Bettey) Foyle married to Ambrose Trowbridge who is my 4 x great grandfather .... but as I have three, possibly four Ambrose Trowbridges, and two Elizabeth Foyles all around the same time .... ::) Elizabeth isn't my 4 x great grandmother as I'm descended from Ambrose's first wife !
I also have one of my 'specials' for tomorrow .... who can wait.
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5g grandparents Thomas & Alison Bookless nee Thompson m 13/3/1782 at Coldingham Berwickshire.
2nd Cousin 4 X R Mary McCartney b 13/3/1868 Whithorn, Wigtownshire.
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I also have one of my 'specials' for tomorrow .... who can wait.
Sat here waiting Lydart, my breath is suitably bated ;D
I have one for today and some I forgot yesterday, just piecing the details together, back soon.
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On 13th March 1903 my 3xG grandmother died in Airdrie. She was born in Scotland, though her parents were Irish. Her husband James Welsh was also Irish. There is a rumour known to several elder members of my family that one of our families were travellers. I think there is some truth in it and these could be the ones. I don't think however they were Romany, indeed I can trace James to a farming family in Ireland. But they do trundle up and down the UK with their increasing brood in tow and it's just possible this is where the rumour comes from and has got embroidered with time. James and Mary married in Stoke in 1861 and my 2xG grandmother Agnes was born during one of their jaunts to England.
Two I forgot from yesterday, there is a third but I haven't time to type it up and it could go on the 14th.
On March 12th 1864 my 3xG grandmother Agnes Weir died at Crofthead, Whitburn. She was at the time, the widow of my 3xG grandfather Robert Tweedie and was the daughter of James Weir and Grace Gardner.
On March 12th 1857 Martha Cudworth married James Marshall in St. Peter's in Leeds. The witnesses were James' father and Martha's sister, my 3xG grandmother Sarah.
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My favourite great aunt Lizzie (Elizabeth Williams) was born today in 1877, in Pear Tree Green, Sholing, Hampshire. I heard about her when I was quite a young child, being ‘seen and not heard’ …. and listening in to adult conversation while I sat ‘reading’ quietly, with ears flapping !! She’s the one who ‘was a naughty girl and ran away to Canada, but she made good as she married the mayor’. Intriguing; so when 50 years after hearing this snippet I started on the FH, and found she emigrated to Canada in 1898 …. I assumed pregnant ! But no, (look at that wasp waist in the photo !) She met and married George Walmsley Stubbs from Manchester who had gone to Canada aged 16 in 1888, with his two brothers . They married in Carberry, Manitoba, in 1899, and returned to UK for a visit in the summer of 1900. George was photographed then in an enormous bear skin coat, which according to my mother, made everyone laugh as the weather was so warm ! Hence, it was probably summer.
Elizabeth and George travelled in a covered waggon for several years looking for land to buy, across the Canadian prairies and also in Montana in the US. She gave birth to two sons during this period (in the waggon ?) and they finally bought land to farm on the Saskatchewan/Alberta border near Lloydminster. Two daughters were born there. They lived on the farm until the 1930’s when they sold up and moved to Kelowna in BC. She did ‘marry the mayor’ …. for George acted as temporary mayor for several months before a new one was elected. I never have discovered why she was ‘a naughty girl’, but it wasn’t as I had initially thought !
All through the war and into the 1950’s Elizabeth sent her sister, my grandmother, food parcels, and often included a little gift for me. She died 20 years after George, in 1960 aged 81, and is buried in Westbank, Kelowna. I found out a lot about her after discovering her obit. which my mother had used to line a drawer ! Shall I relate how Mum came to have the obit ? Yes !
When mother lived in London, she had a friend who was going out to BC to visit family for three months, and while she was there, she happened to pick up a local paper and saw the obit ! She cut it out, and on her return, took it to my mother wondering if this was her aunt ! What a lucky co-incidence. Elizabeths sister (my grandmother) had pre-deceased her, and presumably Elizabeths grand-children hadn’t a clue who she had been writing to for 60 years back in England …. but seeing their names listed on the obit. gave me the clue I needed to get started in tracing them, and I did, and later visited many of them in Canada.
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That's a great fur coat! Could have done with that recently. ;D
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What a story Lydart! :D
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I nearly forgot today, been busy with assisting OH with DIY and doing some research.
Thomas Boulton Benson my g.grandfather was born in Ulverston, Dalton, Lancashire. He was the one who died on 12 March 1893.
Samuel Pemberton my 2 x g.g.uncle was born in Witton cum Twambrooks, Cheshire in 1820
Nancy Pemberton my 3 x g.g.aunt and the aunt of Samuel above, was baptised in Lower Peover, Cheshire in 1768
Abraham Hobson my 3 x g.g.uncle and his twin sister Sarah, my 3 x g.g.aunt were baptised at Almondbury Parish Church, Yorkshire in 1786
Richard Stanton my 7 x g.g.uncle was baptised in Morton by Bourne, Lincolnshire in 1672/3
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Twin 1st Cousins 4 x R George & William Burn b 14/3/1865 at Galashiels, sons of my 4g Aunt & Uncle John and Harriet Burn nee Easton.
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Born today in 1913 my aunt by marriage, Lilian Maud Atkins; she married my uncle John Arthur James Barham in 1934 in Hoxton. They had 2 children and Lilian died aged just 40 in 1953. I have only very vague memories of her.
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Oops, these are for yesterday 14 March, I missed the day by 20 minutes. ::)
Edith Florence Cockett my g.aunt was born in Manchester in 1889. More about her on 27 March.
Ann Harper my husband’s 4 x g.g.aunt was born in Spital Fields, Liverpool in 1786
Peggey Woodward my 3 x g.g.aunt was baptised at St Laurence Church, Frodsham in 1779
Alice Dawson (nee Crompton) my husband’s 2 x g.grandmother 1820 was baptised at Stand Lane New Jerusalemite Chapel, Pilkington, Lancashire. She was 6 months old at the time of her baptism.
Charles Lenton Gilchrist my 1st cousin 4 times removed died in Scarborough, Yorkshire in 1865. He was 39. I don’t know the cause of his fairly young death, and he is too far distant an ancestor to get his death certificate.
Margaret Postlethwaite my 4 x g.g.aunt died in Barrow in Furness, Lancashire in 1838
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My 4xgt uncle Robert Kingsman was born in 1823 in London; son of Edward and Susanna (nee Leviston). Robert was a pocket book maker; he married Emma Haynes at St Leonard, Shoreditch in 1844. So far I've found 10 children born to the couple, 3 died as infants but the others married and raised families. Robert died in 1864.
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Only 4 today.
Frances Howard my husband’s 2 x g.g.aunt married Isaac Foulkes in West Derby, Liverpool in1879
Jane Hanley my 1st cousin twice removed was born in Glasgow in 1893
John Pake my 5 x g.grandfather was baptised at Holy Trinity Church, Haddenham, Cambridgeshire in 1728/29
Eliza Louisa Whittaker (nee Clarke) my husband's g.grandmother died in Denton, Lancashire in 1927, aged 75. The cause of her death was given as Senile Decay.
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Ooops...missed yesterday.
March 14th 1650, Ralph Littlefair was baptised in Gateshead. My 8 x great grandfather.
( I have had at least three Ralph Littlefair entries in the last couple of weeks - they obviously stuck to the naming tradition in this family!)
1825 - Joseph Iley was baptised in Yarm. - 3 x great uncle.
Then today:
Baptised March 15th 1819, Anne French, in Brightlingsea. 4 x great aunt.
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In the town of Linlithgow on the 15th day of March 1741 was born one Agnes Ingles, the elder sister of my 5xG grandmother Mary Ingles. It is through my maternal line that I am descended from Mary.
Next up is Henry Steen. I know only that Henry was born in Linlithgow in or before March 1846. Also I missed his death on the board in January but today is somewhat appropriate as it is at 11.pm. on the morning of March 15th 1866 that Henry's enlistment papers were stamped, telling him that 'you're in the army now'.
Henry was the youngest child of my 3xG grandparents, James Steen, a tanner of High Street Linlithgow and Jane Downs, a baker's daughter from nearby Bo'ness. He was also the only brother of my great great grandfather James. James was the eldest child and between him and Henry stood 17 years and six sisters, Marion, Jessie, Jean, Elizabeth, Mary and Catherine and if they looked anything like my mother and her four sisters, who were also Steens, they must have been bonnie lassies.
In 1863, Henry's mother died and in 1866 his father remarried to Margaret White. This does not appear to have been a happy match and even though Henry was a witness he also does not appear to have been over the moon with the new arrangements. He promptly downed tools (he was a blacksmith) and set off the few miles to Edinburgh. There at 2.pm in the afternoon of the 12th March 1866 at Edinburgh Castle he enlisted in the 72nd Regiment of Foot for a period of 10 years. For this he received a bounty of £1 (don't spend it all at once) and a free kit. His new red tunic would not be offset by the kilt as the 72nd wore trews of a Royal Stewart tartan, apt given that Henry was born a stonesthrow from the birthplace of Mary Queen of Scots.
Henry saw action in India, Egypt and Afghanistan and was one of the 10,000 soldiers (2,500 British and 7,500 Indian) that under General 'Bobs' Roberts, took part in the 'March to Kandahar' and the ensuing battle. This march of 300 miles in gruelling heat, through difficult terrain and carrying a full pack took 20 days with a hard fought battle at the end of it.
'Whilst General Macpherson advanced against Gundi Mulla Sahibdad, General Baker moved against Gundigan – the 72nd Highlanders and the 2nd Sikh Infantry in the van. Again the fighting was hard fought – the Afghans holding well-defended positions that only a concerted effort by the attackers could dislodge. However, the left wing of the 72nd (supported by 5th Gurkhas) finally took the village, whilst the right wing supported the Sikhs, battling through the orchards between the two villages. As General Baker’s brigade moved forward into the open it came under artillery fire from the extremity of the Pir Paimal hill and massed attacks from Ghazis; the latter resolutely repelled by the Highlanders and Sikhs'
Henry's list of ailments during his army career were many and various and included ague, fever, colic, bronchitis, rhuematism and some I won't mention suffice to say they were the scourge of soldiers and sailors far from home in foriegn ports and the treatment was unpleasant ;)
Oh and in 1870 he broke a leg when tripping over the guy rope of a tent.
However, Henry survived all and was finally discharged at Portsmouth in February 1885 and invalided out of the army at Parkhurst on the Isle of Wight in June of the same year. One of the reasons given was varicose veins from the constant marching.
Henry wasted little time, marrying his wife Alice 10 years his junior in March 1885. Alice herself had had a colourful life up till then. A blacksmith's daughter from the Isle of Wight by the age of 16 she was a kitchenmaid at Hanover Square in London at the home of the 4th Viscount Gort. The Viscount's family had a summer home on the Isle of Wight and I suspect that it is from here that Alice was recruited. 10 years later she has risen to nurse in Perthshire at Strowan House, home of Thomas Stirling, Deputy Lieutenant and Justice of the Peace. In 1901 back on the Isle of Wight, a mother and narried to Henry, she is still described as a nurse.
Funnily enough, Thomas Stirling's son fought at the battle of Tal- El-Kabir, as did Henry. Did they know each other. It could just be coincidence but Henry must have known Alice to have married a month after discharge. However I think it more likely they met on the Isle of Wight where he was being treated for his various ailments.
Apart from a brief stint as a club steward at Wick in Caithness, where two of his children were born, Henry spent the rest of his life on the Isle of Wight, dying there in 1911.
Below are the medals awarded to Henry. I know not whether they are his or belong to another soldier, only that I am told they are an exact match to those and the clasps decribed on his army records.
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On this day in 1722 my 7xgreat grandmother Anne Kill was buried at Fittleton in Wiltshire. I've no idea what her maiden name was as I can't find a marriage for her, but she had 4 children that I know of - Mary, Elizabeth, John and Richard - all born before 1700
The reason I'm particularly interested in Anne is that she's far and away the earliest ancestor I've found. All my other lines hit brick walls not that long before 1800, so Anne is great ;D
One of the problems about having completely plebian origins is that there are just no records... no-one is interested in the poor.... except me, of course 8)
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Frank William Morgan, a 1st cousin 2 R, was born in 1913 in Croydon; the son of Henry Morgan and Daisy Gertrude Charlotte Rainer. His birth is indexed under both surnames as the parents did not marry. Frank died in Burma in 1944.
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What a wonderful story Seoras .... is he your favourite ancestor ??
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He is up there juggling for top spot with my great grandmother (his niece) Lydart. I'm very fond of Henry, I suppose it must show. I do know lots more about him but would take the whole page up ;D.
I very much enjoyed reading yours the other day too, re: your great aunt Lizzie. :)
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I could fill an entire thread with tales of Great Aunt Lizzie ! (Whose name has passed down to my eldest daughter !!)
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Another Littlefair today..... March 16th 1740, Jane Littlefair was baptised in Cockfield 6 x great aunt.
1880 - Ann Munro ( nee Raitt) died in Aberdeen. 4 x great aunt.
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George Pierce Boyce died today in 1914 at The Orchard, Chertsey.
(The middle name Pierce was only ever seen on newspaper accounts of his marriage)
He was son of JOhn Pierce Boyce a chemist, and took over his father's business.
He married a quaker girl from NOrth Shields, Anne Ogden Brown.
They had two daughter, only one of whom survived.
George was very involved in local affairs, and also became a JP, and was on the board of numerous local institutions - the asylum, the school etc. He was active in politics and when the county councils started in the 1890's he was the first county councillor for Chertsey for the Liberal party.
He was also very involved in the pharmaceutical society.
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On this day in 1889 my great uncle, Sam Virgin was born in Tatworth, Somerset.
Uncle Sam is one of the very few relatives I have actually met, although I was pretty young at the time. I remember his garden in Norfolk, which was highly scented and I found out later they were wallflowers.
Uncle Sam's life was interesting, what little I know of it. He was brought up on his father's farm and was the third son from his father's second marriage. I don't think things were altogether happy in that household from what I discovered later. In 1911, his mother died, aged 50 and a few months later, Sam and his brother Frank left for Australia.
Frank settled there, but Sam came back and was working as a postman in Bishop's Lydeard in 1916 when he married Kate Tumber. Unfortunately Kate died 12 years later, aged 38 and there were no children. However, Sam remarried a couple of years later to a Norfolk girl, Clarissa (Clara) Garrett and acquired a stepdaughter, of whom he was very fond.
I have some photos of him and Clara in later years and the relationship between them and my grandparents seemed to be a good one.
There are a lot of unanswered questions about Sam's parents and siblings and early family life. Of the eight brothers, only 4 were residual legatees of their father's will, which was a rather contentious document ::) I've always wondered about this family and will probably never have more than hints about what life was like for them all.
Genealogy can be really frustrating at times!
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Four births today:
John Barham, my 2xgt. uncle, born in 1851 in London to Francis James and Isabella (nee Bailey). He appears on 1851 census as "an infant not baptised". After 1861 he goes missing....too many with that name.
James Viney, my 3x gt. uncle, born in Somerset in 1852 to Henry and Eliza (nee Elliot). He is not with them on 1861 census so I assume he died before that date.
Elizabeth Gandy, a 1st cousin 3R, born in London in 1859; daughter of James and Rebecca (nee Barton). Another I've lost.
Mary Catherine Rainer, a 1st cousin 2R, born in 1905 in Ontario, Canada; daughter of Charles Henry and his Irish wife Mary (nee Tracey). Charles amd Mary met in Canada and married in 1896.
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John Collett my 3 x g.g.uncle was baptised in Stradbroke, Suffolk in 1765
Richard Whittaker my husband’s 1st cousin twice removed was baptised at Red Hall Chapel, Audenshaw, Lancashire in 1867
Ann Skellinton my 6 x g.grandmother was baptised at All Saints Church, Stamford, Lincolnshire in 1646/47
Ellen Dawson my husband’s g.g.aunt was baptised at Manchester Cathedral in 1847
Isobel Postlethwaite my 5 x g.g.aunt and aunt of Margaret Postlethwaite below, was baptised at St Mary’s Church, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire in 1727/8
Margaret Postlethwaite my 4 x g.g.aunt was buried in Barrow in Furness, Lancashire in 1838
And last but not least Amy Elizabeth one of my granddaughters was born this day in 1999. Happy Birthday Amy.
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My connection to royalty !! .......
Moses Prince (see the royal connection ??) was born today in Moor Crichel, Dorset in 1783, and was my 3 x great grandfather. He married Elizabeth Prince (another royal connection !) in 1804, also in Moor Crichel. It sounds as though they may have been cousins but I have yet to find any evidence.
There's also Hannah Foyle born today, 1813. Her mother was Ann/Hannah Friggle/Triggle, who was married to Joseph Foyle, whose second wifes first husband was Ambrose Trowbridge, who was another of my 3 x great grandfathers !! Hannah is no relation at all, but she's tucked away, a little leaf on a distant twig of my tree, so she has her day of fame on RC today !
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Had these ready for posting and forgot!
16th
6g Uncle James Hastie c 16/3/1735 son of my 6g grandparents Peter & Isabel Hastie nee Johnston.
1st Cousin 4 x R Margaret Herbert c 16/3/1839 Yetholm, daughter of my 4g aunt & Uncle William & Isabella Herbert nee Gilholme.
1st Cousin 4 x R John Chisholm b 16/3/1865 Earlston son of my 4g aunt & uncle James & Janet Chisholm nee Brodie.
2nd Cousin 3 x R William Cowe b 16/3/1874 son of William & Jane Cowe nee Sinclair.
2nd Cousin 4 x R John Lockhart Falconer m Hester Quinn 16/3/1892 Ontario Canada son of William & Mary Falconer nee Lockhart and daughter of Daniel & Annie Quinn nee Boyle.
17th
3g grandfather James Roxburgh a farmer b 17/3/1793 Bedrule. My 3g grandmother Agnes Gilchrist had a son by him but he didn't marry her, however he did acknowledge her son my 2g grandfather John Roxburgh as his. John was very much involved in the lives of his half brothers and sisters born after James Roxburgh did get married. ( Agnes did go on to marry Robert Fairgrieve and produced more half brothers and sisters for John).
1st Cousin 6 x R john Cowe b 17/3/1805 Eyemouth son of John & Alison Cowe nee Pringle.
4g Uncle Martin Randell b 17/3/1816 Haddington son of my 4g grandparents John & Helen Randell nee Dickson.
5g Uncle James Cowe m Isabella Donaldson 17/3/1826 Hutton. Son of my 5g grandparents David & Helen Cowe nee Sharp and daughter of John & Mary Donaldson nee Aitkins.
1st Cousin 5 x R David Falconer, son of George & Mary Falconer nee Redpath m Mary Brown 17/3/1852 Bayfield Ontario.
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I seem to be having a quiet time in here.
Today I have a couple of BMDs for very distant ancestors one of whom, Mary Rebecca Smith, died in Middlesbrough in 1953. I have no idea who she was - some relation of my mother's but I have no note in my list of how we are connected.
The other one is Ernest Lynn who was a 1st cousin x2 and who died at Puchevillers in 1917. Maybe I shall be able to go and find his grave when I am on holiday in the summer.
I shall do tomorrow's as well because I'm not going to be here:
Married 19/3/1804, Wensley - Francis Lonsdale ( 5 x great uncle) married Isabella Hodgson.
And Wednesday:
Baptised 20/3/1680, Agnes Gibson in Askrigg. 8 x great aunt.
I have nothing after that until Sunday 24th!
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My gt gt aunt Mary Ann Lee married Benjamin Donkersley at All Hallows Kirkburton today in 1852
They had 8 childrenm but Benjamin died in1874
In 1881 she remarried Silvester Hinchliffe - that is one for 5 days time!
Mary died in Jun 1911 and was buried at Kirkheaton.
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5g Grandfather Thomas Grieve c 18/3/1744 Cockburnspath. He married my 5g Grandmother Janet Cribbies 10/3/1773 Cockburnspath.
5g Aunt Agnes Brydon c 18/3/1803 Ettrick, daughter of my 5g grandparents James & Euphemia Brydon nee Laidlaw.
5g Uncle Richard Cowe b 18/3/1805 Coldingham, son of my 5g grandparents Richard & Jean Cowe nee Polwarth.
1st Cousin 5 x R Isabella Brydon b 18/3/1809 Innerleithen, daughter of my 5g Aunt & Uncle Adam & Isabella Brydon nee Hastie.
4g grandparents John Cowe & Elizabeth Watson m 18/3/1816 Whitsom & Hilton, He was the son of my 5g grandparents David & Helen Cowe nee Sharp......she is a brickwall!
2g Aunt Mary Young m John Brown Pringle 18/3/1862 Hawick, she was the daughter of my 2g grandparents William & Margaret Young nee Fairbairn.
1st Cousin 3 x R George Chisholm b 18/3/1872 Sprouston, illigitimate son of my 3g Aunt Isabella Gray Chisholm.
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Myra Betney (nee Benson) my aunt (my dad’s youngest sister) was born in St Mary’s Hospital in 1917. It is said she was a twin and her twin sister was either stillborn or died at birth. I’ve found no trace of this, there is no time on Myra’s birth certificate, but I can’t imagine why anyone would make up the story, unless it was because Myra was born in hospital and they thought that is what happened. However, my dad was a twin and he and his twin sister were born at home as were their other siblings.
Sarah Collett my 2nd cousin twice removed was baptised in Ilketshall St Andrew, Suffolk in 1866
Harley Tubbs my half 3 x g.g.uncle was baptised at All Saints Church, Holbeach, Lincs in 1814. He was the 2nd son to be given this name. The first one was baptised on 20 October 1812 and buried on 1 November 1812. The Harley baptised this day in 1814 was no luckier. He was buried on 25 March 1814, only a week after his baptism.
Joshua Batty my 5 x g.g.uncle was baptised at St John the Baptist Church, Penistone, Yorkshire in 1702/3
(H)ellen Bagshawe (nee Hudson) my 9 x g.grandmother was buried at St Nicholas’ Church, Bradfield, Yorkshire in 1648/9. Sometimes known as Hellen, sometimes as Ellen.
Deborah Benson my 1st cousin 5 times removed was buried in Lowick, Lancashire in 1816 and
Jonathan Benson my 5 x g.grandfather was buried at Wigton, Cumberland in 1817
Jonathan was actually 58 years older than Deborah and these 2 Benson’s come from different branches on my tree. The only connection I can find is that Jonathan is Deborah’s 1st cousin once removed’s wife’s great grandfather. ::) Obviously just a common surname. Some of the other Bensons on different branches lived much closer to each other, but I still can’t find a connection.
Thomas Henry Cockett and Mary Hannah Hobson my maternal grandparents married in 1896. Granny was 19 at the time and on her 20th birthday in June of the same year, she produced her first daughter. Although my mother obviously knew her eldest sister and mother shared their birthdays I don’t think she ever knew that her sibling was born only 3 months after her mother’s marriage. I didn’t bother telling my mother when I found out, I doubt she would have believed me. As my grandfather died in 1922, there were never any special anniversaries like silver or golden which would have given the game away.
Thomas Harper and Jane Brown my husband’s 4 x g.grandparents were married in St Nicholas Church, Liverpool in 1793
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A 1st cousin 1R born today; Thomas Taylor Crumpton in 1903 in Edmonton, son of Alfred Edward Ernest and Matilda (nee Barham). I think he married in 1931 and died in 1966 but have no certs to confirm.
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Born today in 1889 in Islington; Joseph Henry Thompson son of William and Rose May (nee Thompson)....so the certificate says! I can find no marriage and Rose next appears as Rose Flahey with Joseph using the same surname for the rest of his life. Joseph married Edith Margeurita Pain in Hoxton in 1921 and they had two children. Joseph died in 1965 and is buried in Islington Cemetery; Edith following him 13 years later.
Joseph was my gt. uncle by marriage; my dad has fond memories of his Uncle Joe. He was the sort of chap who if you had a headache he'd have a packet of asprin in his pocket, for a cut finger he would produced a plaster, needed a bit of string.....he'd have some.
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Ellen Swinlehurst, my great x 5 grandmother, was baptised today at Gisburn in Yorkshire. She married in Tatham in Lancashire (actually not that far away) on 1758 to John Bond.
They relocated at some point eventually ending up in Denton Lancs
They had 6 children but only ever found baptisms for 2 which were Manchester Cathedral.
HOwever these are mentioned in the will and on a death duty register.
Ellen died in 1803 , and John in 1806.
Interestingly JOhn started off as a yeoman or husbandman but at his burial was a steel mill cutter, though on his will still referred to himself as a yeoman
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6g grandparents John Mack and Jean Fish m 19/3/1745 Coldingham Berwickshire
6g Aunt Margaret Falconer b 19/3/1747 Bolton East Lothian, daughter of my 6g grandparents John & Margaret Falconer nee Hay
1st Cousin 5 x R Thomas Grieve b 19/3/1812 Cockburnspath son of my 5g aunt & uncle Robert & Katherine Grieve nee Mavin.
Arthur Stokes Brown b 19/3/1898 New Zealand, husband of my 3rd cousin 2 x R Jeannie Haliburton.
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Mary Ann Pemberton my 2 x g.g.aunt (and aunt of Elizabeth Pemberton below) and George Hartley, married at The Parish Church, Great Budworth, Cheshire in 1838
Elizabeth Pemberton my g.g.aunt and George Tatham married at Kingsley Parish Church, Kingsley, Cheshire in 1860
Ann Hardy (nee Lees) my husband’s 2 x g.grandmother married James Beech at Manchester Cathedral in 1851. She had only married her first husband John Hardy in 1847 and had two sons one in 1847 and one in 1849 by the time he died in 1850 aged 28. James Beech died in 1859, by which time she’d had another 3 children. She didn’t do too well with her husbands. ::) ::) We’ve to get the death certs to find out the cause of death of the two young men.
Elizabeth Hobson (nee Singleton) my 6 x g.grandmother was baptised at St Peter’s Church, Huddersfield, Yorkshire in 1669/70
Laetitia Stanton my 4 x g.g.aunt was baptised in Heckington, Lincs in 1768
Aggy Postlethwaite my 4 x g.g.aunt was baptised in Kirkby Ireleth, Lancashire in 1757
James Woodward my 1st cousin 4 times removed was baptised in Frodsham, Cheshire in1826
Selina Gibson (nee Benson) died in Harpurhey, Manchester, in 1990. She was my dad’s eldest sibling. She married in 1938, but about 1948 her husband vanished and no-one would tell me where he was. I got the impression he’d gone to prison. Years later, my brother who wasn’t even born at the time, told me that she’d been divorced. I can’t find any record of this, I’m not even sure the divorce records are available for the late 1940s/early 1950s. She had no children and never married again.
George Arthur Peaock the husband of my 1st cousin twice removed died in Salford, Lancashire in 1955
Eliza Louisa Clarke (nee Whittaker) my husband’s great grandmother was buried in Christ Church, Denton, Lancashire, in 1927
Beryl Buckley my husband’s aunt was buried aged 3 days old having been born prematurely at 7½ months.
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A 1st cousin 4R, Alfred Ware, was born in Burghfield, Berkshire in 1858; son of James and Hannah (nee Allwright). He was an ag. lab and I can track him up to 1891 census and then.......... There's a possible death in 1892 but in London. :-\
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Only one today.
2nd Cousin 4 x R William Alexander Hastie son of Thomas & Georgina H Hastie nee Cowe m Hannah Louise Loper 20/3/1889 Warren County IA. William died in 1933 and Hannah 1955 both buried Indianola Warren County IA
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Ethel Mona Stubbs born today, 1894. She was a daughter of John James Stubbs who was a brother to George Stubbs, who married Great Aunt Lizzie ! (You read about her a few days ago). Ethel was born in Manitoba, Canada; her mother Jessie Callie in Scotland. That's the sum total of what I know about her, but her brother Herbert was killed on the Somme, and his dates come in October ....
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One for today and a few I forgot, apologies to my ancestors, I've been busy.
On 18th March 1827 Grizell Tweedie was born in West Calder, the daughter of my 3xG grandparents Robert Tweedie and Agnes Weir. She was the elder sister of my great great grandfather John. By the time of her death on Tweedie's Land, Armadale in 1865, she, like many of my Grizell's had morphed to a Crace. Grace in Scotland, unlike the Puritan biblical use of the name, mainly stems from Grizell. It was pronounced Grisel and from this frequently shortened to Gris, Grace being a short step further. Grizell itself is Germanic and a form of Griselda/Grizelda, so you may also find a Grizell under the diminutive form of Zelda.
On March 19th 1860, John Stein, the eldest son of my great great grandparents James Stein and Elizabeth Pate was born in High Street, Linlithgow. His father was the first of the family I can find using the spelling Stein, before that it was Steen, though both are pronounced Steen. Steen itself is a Scottish form of Steven and I have found in this family, all three and even Stevenson being used, making research, shall we just say interesting.
In the 1870's John moved with his family to Stirling and followed his father into the shoemaking trade. From there he moved to Glasgow and narried Maggie Neil in 1889. She was the daughter of James Neil, a stoker and Margaret Baillie, both were deceased at the time of marriage. By then John is described as a slippermaker. He was the elder brother of my great grandmother, Elizabeth. He should by naming tradition have been a James, but my GG grandparents had already had two children of that name who both died in infancy. I guess they were taking no chances, even with third time lucky and he was named John, after his mother's father. He did however eventually have a younger brother named James.
On March 19th 1783 Elizabeth Auld was born in Linlithgow, she was the younger sister of my 4xG grandmother Janet. Her father Alexander followed all the rules, marrying and having all his children baptized, unlike his father. For him I can find no marriage and both children I can find, Alexander junior and his sister, born three years apart, are both as the parish register quaintly put it, born in fornication. While in Scotland last summer, I came across the grave of Elizabeth's brother, another Alexander. I knew it was he as it mentioned his wife and I know who he married ;).
On March 19th 1830 Alexander Wardlaw of Hermiston, where he was born, married Mary Dundas Smith from nearby Costorphine. He was the son of my 4xG grandparents Peter Wardlaw and Agnes Wallace and my 3x G grandfather George's elder brother. They had four children and Alex unlike most Wardlaw's didn't stick to the naming pattern script. His children were Alexander, Thomas, Peter and Helen. His father's name is relegated to the third child and it is the first use of the name Thomas I can find in the family. His brother George, my 3xG grandfather, only had three sons and used the same three names. Wardlaw boy's names in my line are mainly George, John, Peter and Alexander. Alexander died at 59 Broughton Street, Edinburgh in 1863. His mother, my 4xG grandmother Agnes Wallace also died at this address in 1844. She had been living with her son following the death of her husband a year earlier.
On the 20th March 1883 my great grandmother Elizabeth Stein (sister of the aforementioned John) married Robert Wright at the Free Church Manse in Torphichen. She was 18 and a dairymaid. Robert was a coalminer from Bo'ness, the son of Hugh Wright and Elizabeth Macintosh. They had four children, Hugh, Elizabeth, John and Robina. I am descended from none of these children. Robert died from pnuemonia when Lizzie was only 24. Her daughter Robina was born just 19 days later with Robert's mother in attendance. I know much more about Lizzie but will save it for her birth I think as she is one of my favourite ancestors. It is because of her I joined RootsChat and through RootsChat came into contact with the grandson of her son John far away in Australia.
Below is a rather crude drawing of where they married. I don't know if it still exists but will delve into it next time I am in Scotland.
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http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/sc-14542-torphichen-free-church-now-church-hall-to
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My 4 x great grandfather Isaac Pullen was baptised at Bishops Frome, Herefordshire, son of Isaac and Amphyllis
Isaac went on to marry Ann or Nancy Hodges of Dymock in Gloucestershire.
The children were all baptised at Bishops Frome, I think my 3 x great grandfather may have been born in Pencombe, he did not always say the same thing on censuses
Isaac died in 1840
Not figured out what he did yet
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My great great great aunt Ellen Beech nee Jackson died today at Windmill Street Macclesfield in 1866. This was apparently in childbirth as her daughter Ellen was born March at this time and tragically Ellen senior's funeral and Ellen junior's baptism were on the same day at St Paul's Macclesfield - virtually within site of their home which was their father Edward's house.
She was born 14.12.1846 and seems to have probably run away to get married at 15!
This took place at Heaton Norris Cheshire on 17th March 1862. SHe gave her age as 19 - so in theory she needed parental consent, and his age was 31, and he was a widower.
Joseph too died on 5.5.1869 - though not located his burial - at Sutton near Macclesfield.
Ellen jun was looked after by her grandfather Edward Jackson until his death in 1878, then by Edward's daughter Martha Goddard who by this stage was in the Barnsley family.
Curiously an Ellen Jackson in the next generation (daughter of my gt gt grandfather George Jackson) also died in childbirth - even younger and in that case unmarried.
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Four births today:
A 1st cousin 5R, Mary Elizabeth Kingsman born in 1808 in Southwark; daughter of William John and Frances (nee Jones). Mary never married and worked as a dressmaker; she died in 1868 and is buried in Victoria park Cemetery, Hackney.
One of Mary's sisters born in 1815, Catherine, also in Southwark. Sadly Catherine died in 1816 and is buried in St. Mary, Newington.
My 2xgt. aunt Edith Rainer born in Plumstead in 1869; daughter of Edward and Charlotte (nee Henman). Edith married James William Gillians at Woolwich Register Office in 1888. They had 5 children but the first and last child both died young. The family then emigrated to Canada, where Edith had a brother and sister. Edith died in the flu epidemic of 1919 and is buried in Mount Royal Cemetery in Montreal.
A 2nd cousin, 1R, Florence Elizabeth Ralph, was born in 1898 in Hackney, daughter of Mark and Isabella (nee Read). Florence married William Charles Richard Jarrett in 1921 in Hackney; she died in 1988 in Kent.
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1st Cousin 4 xR Thomas Innes Black b21/3/1849 Ayton, Berwickshire, son of my 4 g aunt & uncle Alexander & Jane Black nee Cowe.
2nd Cousin 4 x R William McCraw b 21/3/1867 Coldingham, Berwickshire, son of William & Mary McCraw nee Falconer.
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She was born 14.12.1846 and seems to have probably run away to get married at 15!
This took place at Heaton Norris Cheshire on 17th March 1862. SHe gave her age as 19 - so in theory she needed parental consent, and his age was 31, and he was a widower.
My husband's g.grandmother got married at Manchester Cathedral in 1867 aged 15½. Her certificate states she was 18, but we have her birth certificate and on various census after the marriage she shows her real age. Whether she got permission or not, we've no idea. Her father disappears from all census after 1851 (my OH's g.grandmother was born in December 1851) and her mother appears to have died in a workhouse the year after the marriage.
I'm not sure what the age of consent was in the 1840s/1860s
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http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/sc-14542-torphichen-free-church-now-church-hall-to
Hi Lydart, apologies for the late reply, I only saw this, this morning. I have tracked down the minister of Torphichen, who lives in the Manse and sent an email with the drawing to see if it is the same building. I was born only four and a half miles away ???
George.
Ooh quick reply, the Manse is on the same site but the original was demolished in the 1950's :'(
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Joseph Gaunt my 4 x g.grandfather was baptised at St John the Baptist Church, Penistone, Yorkshire in 1729/30
Elizabeth (Betsy) Pemberton (Nee Woodward) my 2 x g.grandmother was baptised at St Laurence Church, Frodsham, Cheshire in 1813
Sarah Pemberton my 4 x g.g.aunt (and g.aunt of Elizabeth Pemberton (nee Woodward)’s husband above) was baptised in Great Budworth, Cheshire in 1749/50
Edward Stanton my 4 x g.g.uncle was baptised in Heckington, Lincolnshire in 1784
Thomas Benson my 2 x g.g.uncle died of phthisis in Ireleth, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire in 1853. He was aged 40 and left a wife and 3 children.
Isaac Walter Singline my 2nd cousin twice removed, died in Falmouth, Tasmania in 1933
John Bagshaw my 6 x g.g.uncle was buried in Bradfield, Yorkshire in 1706/7
Margaret Postlethwaite (nee Smith) was buried in Dalton in Furness, Lancashire in 1791
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My father was born 90 years ago today. He died suddenly on the 19th September 1999 - my mother's 79th birthday. As you can imagine this was a dreadful shock.
My great x 2 aunt Fanny Amelia Howell was born in 1868 in Limehouse, Middlesex. She was the daughter of William Henry Howell and Mary Ann Bills.
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On this day in 1956 I was born ;D
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Happy Birthday.
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Happy Birthday Meezer. Have a good one. :)
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Thanks folks - OH has treated me to a giant Lindor Easter egg this morning! :P
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Happy Birthday Meezer.......enjoy your Easter Egg! :D
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My dear grandmother Mary Bond Jackson nee Cocks died today in 1980 in Asford Middx
She was born in 1888 in Newton Cheshire
She was 7 when her mother died, but had a kind stepmother Jane (who had a sweet shop).
At some point made hats before her marriage.
She married Harry Jackson, an up an coming colliery undermanager in 1913 in Salford. I believe they met as they lived nearly next door in Bredbury.
The first few children were born all over the place, reflecting the different mines Harry worked in, but in approx 1924, Harry was in a pit fall. He survived but was unable to work in the mine again. The family relocated to the south of England to look for work, as did the family of Harry's sister Annie. Harry eventually got an office job and the family settled in Ashford Middlesex. Times were harder now and as Annie's husband Noah was a builder, Mary would scrub out the newly built houses for money.
I remember the later years of course. Mary often had lodgers, and always had a budgie, which was inevitably called Joey. She was gentle and kind, and when we as a family moved to Ashford I was able to walk over to visit.
In the group photo, her father Richard is at left, Mary is front centre, sister Annie behind, and stepmother Jane at right
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Stonechat, what a lovely smile Mary had. :)
Just one today:
The birth of a 1st cousin 2R, Mary Ann Kingsman in 1857 in London; daughter of Robert and Emma (nee Haynes). Mary married in Frederick William Albert Cookson in 1875 at Holy Trinity, Islington. He was a porter. Mary died in 1929.
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I WAS going to post about my very prim great aunt Ethel's marriage on this day in 1908 but then noticed that Uncle George's birth came only 2 months later, so perhaps I'd better not :-[ ;D
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I WAS going to post about my very prim great aunt Ethel's marriage on this day in 1908 but then noticed that Uncle George's birth came only 2 months later, so perhaps I'd better not :-[ ;D
Oops........ ;D
I was helping a friend with her tree and when a birth cert turned up......baby born the day after the parents married!
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Wow - that's what I call close timing! Perhaps she was in labour going up the aisle :o
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My Niece Becky d 22/3/2008 cod unknown…..she fell asleep. Becky was buried 01/04/2008 3 days before her 23rd birthday.
My Niece Erin (Cousin to Becky) b 22/3/1995
1st Cousin 5 x R Elizabeth Hastie b 22/3/1819 Innerwick East Lothian, daughter of my 5g Aunt & Uncle Philip & Janet Hastie nee Mann.
She left the household of the Marquis of Breadalbane, sailing for America to keep house for her brothers William and Andrew who were working on the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad. She met her future husband William Runciman of Coldstream aboard ship and they married 10/12/1850 Ravenna Portage, Ohio. They moved to Warren County Iowa the following year and purchased land and soon had a home in a small log cabin in Allen township Southwest of Carlisle.
Elizabeth arrived with a letter dated 11th October 1848 at Kenmore. 'The bearer Elizabeth Hastie has been a communicant in the Free Church Congregation, Kenmore since June 1843 and leaves at this date in full communion with the Free Church Of Scotland and with an irreproachable moral character so far as is known to us'.
3g Uncle George Burn b 22/3/1861 Lilliesleaf, son of my 3g grandparents William & Frances Burn nee Hall. He died in Gibralter 14/5/1879. The death notice stated ‘George Burn 71st Highlanders died aged 18 years & 2 months of fever in Gibralter’.
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On Sunday 22nd March 1767, my 4xG grandmother Agnes Wallace was christened in Ratho, 8 days after she was born. She was the only daughter and youngest child of John Wallace and Agnes Bishop, who had married in Ratho in 1748. They had 6 sons, though two died in infancy, these were James, James, David, Alexander, John and Alexander, two of the boys being named the same as pre-deceased siblings.
Agnes married Peter Wardlaw, (who was also Ratho born and christened in Ratho church) in 1791. They had 9 children, Agnes, Jemima, Barbara, John (both Agnes and Peter's fathers were named John), Peter, Alexander, George (my 3xG grandfather), Margaret and Christian.
Agnes lived most of her life in Hermiston, where all her children were born, moving to live in Edinburgh with her son Alexander in 1843 on the death of her husband. She died there a year later. At the time of her husband Peter's death, they had been married for 52 years, I would think a lengthy marriage for the time.
The name Agnes has been used in every generation down to my cousin, known like many an Agnes before as Nancy. The Wallace name continued to my grandmother, where it was one of her two middle names.
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On this day in 1785 my great x4 grandparents Thomas Bills and Susannah Morriss were married at St Andrews, Helpringham, Lincolnshire. Thomas was born in Folkingham in 1751 the son of Thomas Bills and Mary Goodman. Susannah was born in Helpringham in 1764, the daughter of William Morriss and Mary Foster. They went on to have 11 children.
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Mt grandmother's cousin Ella May Dagwell married George WIlbur Wallace in 1903 in Gilford New Hampshire
I have not been able to find what happened to her parents John (Cornelius) Dagwell and Alice Elizabeth nee Holmes.
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I have a day of Raitts today.
24th March 1835, James Raitt was born in Old Machar, son of James Raitt and Christian Crichton ( my 3 x great grandparents)
24th March 1859, John Raitt born, son of John Munro Raitt and Margaret Allan ( John M Raitt was also son of James and Christian, as above) And on the same day in 1863, another son James was born to John M Raitt and Margaret Allan, in Newhills.
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I've been under the weather, so I've 3 days to post.
22 March
Charles Collett my 5 x g.g.uncle was baptised in Eye, Suffolk, in 1711/12
Jane Baxter my 6 x g.g.aunt was baptised in Heckington, Lincolnshire in 1711/12
William Bagshawe my 6 x g.g.uncle was baptised in Bradfield, Yorkshire in 1611/12
Jon Tubbs my 2nd g.g.uncle was baptised in Holbeach, Lincolnshire in 1835
Sarah Woodard my 4 x g.g.aunt was buried at St Laurence Church, Frodsham, Cheshire in 1747/8. She was just over 3 years old.
Charles Henry Cockett my g.g.uncle married Elizabeth Dawson in Lincoln, in 1865. I have a photograph of Charles which his granddaughter, Olive, sent to me shortly before she died in 2007 aged 99. Her mother was cousin to my maternal grandfather, but despite the distance from Manchester they all seemed to keep in touch and when there was only my mother and Charles’ granddaughter left they used to write to each other. When my mother died also in 2007, I wrote to Olive to let her know and ask if she had any photographs of the family. The only one she could find – she’d moved from Lincolnshire to Derby to live with a niece and couldn't find her other photographs – was one in a locket of her father. At least I have some idea of what my 2 x g.grandfather must have looked like.
23 March
Henry Collett my 1st cousin 3 times removed was baptised in Metfield, Suffolk in 1823
Martha Hobson my 4 x g.g.aunt was baptised in Fartowne, Huddersfield, Yorkshire in 1741/2
John Cawthorn my 3 x g.g.uncle was baptised in Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire, in 1794
David Tubbs my 2 x g.g.uncle was baptised in Holbeach, Lincolnshire in 1843
William Benson my 1st cousin 5 times removed!! was baptised in Kirkby Ireleth, Lancashire in 1794
Laetitia Burton my 2nd cousin 4 times removed died in Boston, Lincolnshire in 1901. I have a photograph of Laetitia, amazing that I have photos of distant ancestors and none of close ancestors.
Thomas Benson my 2 x g.g.uncle died in Ireleth, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire in 1853. His cause of death was Phthisis 6 months.
24 March
Elizabeth Eliza Salter (nee Mumby) my 2 x g.g.aunt was baptised at St Botolph’s Church, Boston, Lincs in 1820
John Collett my 9 x g.grandfather died and curiously was buried this day 1599/00. His will was made on 4 March 1599/00 and proved on 5 June 1600. Only three of his eight children were beneficiaries under the terms of his Will, along with his wife, and they were his daughters Dameron and Edith and his son John. His other two sons Anthony who was 22 at the time and Philologus who was only 13 (my 8 x g.grandfather) had received substantial bequests in their grandfather’s will.
Sarah Ann Stanton my 2 x g.g.aunt and William Strickson married in West Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire in 1857
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Only have the one and that is from yesterday. March 23rd 1845, Alexander Wardlaw was born in Whitburn, Midlothian. Not to be confused with the Alexander Wardlaw of a few days ago, that was his uncle ;D. Alexander was the son of my 3xG grandparents George Wardlaw and Agnes Torrance. His elder brother Peter was my great great grandfather. He only had two other siblings, Thomas and Susan, both died young, as it seems did his mother.
Alex married Isabella Wilson in 1868 and had children, George, John, Alexander, Thomas, James, Margaret and Peter. Like his father before him, there was just the one daughter. However his father's only daughter, Alexander's sister Susan Ross Wardlaw proved to be the key to unlocking my Torrance, Wardrope, Ross and Mason families.
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On this day March 24th, 1951 my parents were married and 3 years later on this day I was born, always told my dad that I was a good anniversary present...
Also on this day when I was 9 my aunt was married and I was a bridesmaid so had a wedding cake and birthday cake at the reception.
Cheers
Anne
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Thomas Bellingham died today in 1490 at Lyminster in Sussex
My 14 x great grandfather and the oldest I have put here yet
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On this day 40 years ago, 1973, our first son was born! :D :D
OK not very old history - but history none the less! ;)
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Three births today:
Mercy Rainer, my 2xgt aunt, born in 1862 in Kent to Edward and Charlotte (nee Rainer). Mercy married George Charles West in 1883 in Holy Trinity Church, Penge in Surrey. They had 8 children; George died in 1908 and Mercy in 1931.
A 2nd cousin 2R, Cyril Leonard Pain, born in 1886 in Waterloo, London; son of John Robert and Amelia Christine (nee Millward). He married in 1909 a divorcee, Louisa, and they had 4 children. Cyril died in WW1, his ship sinking off the coast of Dorset and his body never recovered.
My aunt, Minnie Margaret Ada, born in 1919 in Shoreditch, daughter of John Robert and Matilda Alice Eva (nee Pain). As a young woman she worked in the fur trade in London. Her brother's wife died at a young age leaving him with 2 young daughters so Minnie gave up work to care for them and stayed with her brother for the rest of his life. Minnie died in 2007, 8 years after her brother.
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None from me for a few days, but Happy Birthday AnneMc :)
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Jessie Jennet Howard Connor (my husband’s g.g.aunt) and Patrick William McGrath married in Chorlton, Manchester in 1882. Jessie, born 1862, is the daughter of my husband’s 2 x g.grandmother, Mary Ann Connor however, no father is shown on her birth certificate and her mother stated she was a widow. I only found Jessie because she was staying with my husband’s g.grandmother – Jessie’s half sister – on the 1881 census aged 19. Her mother’s maiden name is Howard which has been included in Jessie’s names. I have no idea where Mary Ann Connor her mother was, I think she died in a workhouse in 1868 but the age given is incorrect. Another mystery is why Jessie’s half sister, although married, was using her mother’s maiden name Howard as her and her family’s surname. On census before and after 1881 she was using the correct married surname. We’ve also no idea what happened to Mary Ann Connor’s husband after 1851. If Mary Ann Connor was telling the truth on Jessie’s birth certificate then he had died, but we’ve yet to find a death for him.
Hannah Pemberton (nee Darlington) my 3 x g.grandmother was born in Davenham, Cheshire in 1789
John Collett my 7 x g.g.uncle was baptised in Westerfield, Suffolk in 1634. He was the 8th of 11 children of my 8 x g.grandparents. I have a will of his father, but I cannot understand most of the handwriting which seems to be in olde English.
Scoyles Dye my 2 x g.g.uncle was baptised at St Mary’s Parish Church, Newton Flotman, Norfolk in 1832
George Dyke my husband’s 2 x g.g.uncle was baptised at St Mary’s Church, Warwick in 1827
Daniel Midwood my 6 x g.grandfather died in Mirfield, Huddersfield, Yorkshire in 1740
Harley Tubbs my half 3 x g.g.uncle was buried in All Saints Church, Holbeach, Lincolnshire in 1814, exactly one week after his baptism.
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In 1884, my 2 x great aunt, Isabella Jane Shaw, married John Glass in Nairn. She was the daughter of James Shaw and Margaret Smith and the sister of my great grandmother, Catherine Shaw.
1908, my 2 x great grandfather, William Knight died in Middlesbrough, aged 72. He was born in Farnham in Surrey of parents who continue to elude me after years of searching. I know his father was John knight but so far haven't been able to be absolutely sure of who his mother was. He moved to Staffordshire at some point, married a woman named Jane and had two sons, Thomas and Henry ( This is from the 1851 census). By 1871, he was in Middlesbrough, still with a wife named Jane and with lots of children, one of whom was my great grandmother, Harriet, who was born in 1865 in Staffordshire. From her birth certificate, I knew that her mother was Jane White. So I hunted for William and Jane's marriage and eventually found it in 1868, by which time Harriet was three and she had four older siblings. Oh well, I thought, it just took them a year or lots to formalise the relationship and carried on as I was. Then, some considerable time later, I was in contact with another member of this line who said, "oh no, Jane's surname wasn't White at all - somebody else altogether." This led to all sorts of confusion until we realised that William had been married to two women named Jane and had been widowed and re-married between censuses. This accounts for the slight discrepancies in their ages places of birth which hadn't been enough to cause any alarm bells to go off. Anyway, William and his second Jane moved up to Middlesbrough, and had even more children. Jane turned into the thieving woman of whom you have heard in the past and William ended his life living with one of their many offspring.
Was that confusing enough for you?
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Claude Victor Collett my 3rd cousin once removed was born in Westleton, Suffolk in 1912
Doris Cockett, my aunt was born in Manchester in 1906. Unfortunately she died aged 14 months from tuberculosis meningitis, 4 years before my mother was born.
Matthew Heaton my husband’s 2 x g.grandfather was born in Rotherham, Yorkshire in 1812
John Middleton, my 1st cousin 3 times removed was baptised in Millom, Cumberland in 1871
Sarah Woodward my 1st cousin 4 times removed was baptised in Frodsham, Cheshire in 1828
Mary Elizabeth Mumby my 1st cousin twice removed died in Hull, Yorkshire in 1881, aged only 2 months. The cause of death was bronchitis of 6 days duration. As well as losing Mary, her father lost his wife and son in the same year.
Mary Wilkinson my 7 x g.g.aunt was buried in Holme Cultram, Cumberland in 1691. She was 7 years old.
Ann Okey my 6 x g.g.aunt was buried at Holy Trinity Church, Haddenham, Cambridgeshire in 1698/99 she was just over a month old. There had been another Anne born in this family who was baptised in September 1667, but although she must have died, I can't find her death, unless of course because the spelling of the first Anne had an e and the 2nd Ann didn't the first child was still alive. A bit improbable that they couldn't think of more names, as their parents only had 5 children.
Christine Catlow my husband’s 2nd cousin and Kenneth Masterson were married in Stockport in 1960 They now live in New Zealand.
Richard Stanton and Ann Skellinton my 6 x g.grandparents married at All Saints Church, Stamford, Lincolnshire in 1664
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Just one birth today:
My 1st cousin 2R, Laura Eva Sherren in 1903 in Plumstead; the only child of William and Eva Annie (nee Pain). William died in 1918 and Eva in 1921 so Laura lived with her aunts. She died in 1976 in Somerset but is buried in Plumstead Cemetery.
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2 births today:
My 2xgt aunt, Rebecca Barham, in 1844 in Cripplegate, London; daughter of Francis James and Isabella (nee Bailey). Rebecca was baptised in April 1844 at St. Bartholomew, Moor Lane. I can follow her on a few census records and then........nothing.
A 1st cousin 2R, Ernest Charles Burgess, in Hoxton in 1896, son of George and Annie Catherine (nee Bird). By 1911 he was in the Royal Fusiliers but by the time of his marriage in 1919 he is shown as a carpenter's labourer. He married Elizabeth Rebecca Bristow at St. John the Baptist, Hoxton and they had 2 sons. Ernest died in 1954, twenty two years before Elizabeth.
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Today in 1937 was the birthday of my uncle Clifford Smith, my mum's youngest brother and universally known as Cliffe. ( he liked the affectation of the e on the end) He was more like a big brother to me as he ( and another brother whose birthday comes in a few days time) lived with us during my childhood. He was a bit of a rogue with a keen eye for mischief making opportunities but we all loved him. He died whilst working in the USSR in early 1983. His son, my cousin, is so like him that even now, after thirty years, I do a double take when I see him.
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George Woodward my 3 x g.g.uncle was baptised at St Laurence Church, Frodsham, Cheshire in 1787
Mary Spraggett (nee Luckorish) my husband’s 4 x g.grandmother was baptised in Leamington Hastings, Warwickshire in 1758
Edith Florence Cockett my g.aunt died in Manchester in 1894 aged 5. The cause of death was acute meningitis for 1 month.
Joseph Pemberton my 3 x g.g.uncle died in Openshaw, Manchester in 1854. He was buried in Ardwick Cemetery, Manchester. Joseph was a farm worker until about 1803 when at 19 he enlisted in a Cavalry Regiment, the Maquis of Droghedas 18th Hussars at Hulme Barracks, Cornbrook, Manchester. He was paid a bounty on signing.
After training, the Dragoons moved south in stages of about 40 miles a day to quarters in several places in and around Folkstone and the south coast, then up to London and Hounslow. From this point the only known movements of the Regiment are as a unit, so it is assumed that they are also the movements of Joseph Pemberton. The 18th Hussars fought in the latter stages of the Peninsular Wars in Portugal. By 1813 when Joseph was aged 29, the Regiment was in quarters in Limerick, Ireland. As his wife was born in Limerick, presumably this is where he met her. Joseph fought at Waterloo, which is confirmed in Regimental Records and on the Medal Roll. Family history states that he “Fell Dead" in the street, so presumably he had a heart attack or similar but I’ve not bought a death cert for such a distant ancestor.
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On this day in 1753 Alice Catlow married John Cock at St Michael's, Ashton under Lyne, by Licence
Alice was the daughter of the Curate and schoolmaster Jonathan Catlow, and John was son of the churchwarden
They went on to have 9 children.
John was described as a yeoman and a gentleman, he died in 1791
Have not pinned down Alice's death
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The grandma I never knew, Matilda Alice Eva Pain, was born to James Ottley and Amelia Sophia (nee Rainer) in Plumstead in 1884; their first child. Matilda married John Robert Barham in 1905 at St. Mark, Old Street and lived the rest of her life in the Shoreditch area. She had 7 children and died in 1935 from TB just a few weeks after her second daughter, Alice, died from the same disease. My father, the youngest child, was just 12 years old.
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Baptised in 1736, Sarah Littlefair in Cockfield, Co Durham. A 6 x great aunt. I wonder if she lived anywhere near my sister's house. It is a bit strange that of all the places they could have chosen, she and her husband opted for this small, out of the way village which was home to many of our distant ancestors. ;D
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My anniversary for today 28th March is a mystery. My mildly distant cousin James Jaffray was born in St Ninians, Stirling, 28th March 1842, to James Jaffray, farmer of Broomridge Farm, and his wife Isabella Monteath. James emigrated to New South Wales in 1869, and the family heard nothing of him after that. In 1907 there was an intestate estate to be distributed and efforts were made to find James and another cousin, the latter having gone to North America. These efforts came to nothing and there was then a court action to have them declared dead, so that the estate could be distributed among the other heirs.
I have found a possible death in 1883 in NSW, but no confirmation that this is the man.
I wonder what happened and what he did?
Here is a transcript of the newspaper advertisement:
JAMES JAFFRAY, a son of the late James Jaffray, farmer, Broomridge, Stirlingshire, Scotland, who is reputed to have resided in Sydney, N.S.W., in 1889, is requested to communicate with PATRICK WELSH, Solicitor, Stirling, Scotland; who will be glad to receive information from any other quarter regarding the said JAMES JAFFRAY. - Sydney Morning Herald, 13th June 1907
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Irene May Hutchinson (nee Lynch) my 2nd cousin once removed was born in Hulme, Manchester in 1928 - Oops just checking to see if she had died before I put her name on here and her death record gives her date of birth as 26 March, not 28 as I thought.
William Chorley my half 2nd g.g.uncle was baptised in Gosforth, Cumberland in 1830. His mother my 3 x g.grandmother had 3 illegitimate children, with probably 3 different fathers before she married my 3 x g.grandfather Jonathan Middleton. William was the 3rd of these children. The first two, both girls died aged one and 5 respectively, the 2nd one dying when William was aged 3. I have a copy of a bastardy order for the first child, but I’ve not found anything for the other two, although the 2nd child was born in the Poorhouse. William lived with my 3 x g.grandparents following their marriage in 1834 and was with them on the 1841 census under the name of Middleton, this is the only time he appears to use this name. The next time I found him was his marriage in 1857. His marriage cert is blank where the father’s name should be, but presumably because he was close to his “adopted” father, he used Middleton as a middle name for two of his children.
Grace Midwood my 5 x g.g.aunt was baptised at St Mary’s Church, Mirfield, Yorkshire in 1705
Harry Dawson my husband’s grandfather died in Bradford, Manchester in 1917. The cause of death was carcinoma of the liver. His childhood is a bit of a mystery as in 1881, his parents and siblings were shown on the census under the name of Howard. This was actually the maiden name of his maternal grandmother and he was actually registered at school on 18 August 1879 under this name. There is no suggestion that the family were fleeing debtors, as his father was permanently in work being a lithographic printer and then a paper ruler. Another person living with the family in 1881 was his aunt Jessie. She was a half sister of his mother and her birth certificate shows her mother as a widow, but the space for father is left blank. If they were trying to hide from someone searching for Jessie, why did she use her real name on the census? The whole thing is a mystery as by 1891 everything had reverted back to normal.
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On this day in 1881, my great granparents Frederick Douglas and Clara Maria Clarke married at St Mary's Lambeth.
Frederick was a baker from Egham, who had learnt under his uncle Albert, and then set up his own shop in Egham Hight Street, it seems it may have briefly been a tobacconists originally.
Clara was from Oundle in Northamptonshire. Not sure how Clara and Frederick came to meet, but they were both children of Clockmakers.
They had 7 children, the oldest was my grandfather also a Frederick
Frederick died on 15th October 1901.
It seems that the family already made arrangements to help the bakery run, Frederick must have been ill for a period before his death. Frederick jun was recalled from OUndle school, which he was attending as a day pupil, staying with his grandmother and uncle and aunt.
He helped run the bakery with his mother, later Albert, the next yougest son, attended OUndle in his place. Clara must have ruin a steady ship, as the bakery was still running well after her death in 1933. She had earlier had a terrible experience when her elder sister Mary Jane Clarke, hung herself from an apple tree in the garden of the baker's shop in 1921
One interesting thing. I guess they married in London as it was accessible to both families. The church, St Mary's was next to the entrance to Lambeth Palace (home to the Archbishop of Canterbury). Despite this location it is no longer a church, but now a garden museum!"
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Baptised in Bellerby in 1817, Lydia Bushby, a 3 x great aunt, daughter of Christopher Bushby and Mary Favell. Lydia married Matthew Metcalfe in 1848 and had three children. She died in 1867.
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Thomas Benson my 2 x g.g.uncle married at Dalton in Furness, Lancashire in 1845
Rebecca Gilchrist my 1st cousin 4 times removed was born in Boston, Lincolnshire 1842
Susan Singleton my 6 x g.g.aunt was baptised at St Peter’s Church, Huddersfield, Yorkshire in 1668
Charles Dyke my husband’s 4 x g.g.uncle was baptised in Hatton, Warwick in 1772
John Brand my 3 x g.grandfather was buried at St Denys Parish Church, Sleaford, Lincolnshire in 1850. His occupation at the time was given as a Chair Turner, and his cause of death bronchitis. He married and had 9 children, but two years before his marriage, a maintenance order was taken out against him for a female child born to a Mary Barnatt. His wife, my 2 x g.grandfather was 7 months pregnant when he married her.
George Woodward my 3 x g.g.uncle was buried in Frodsham, Cheshire in 1787. He was baptised 2 days previously at St Laurence Church, Frodsham, so presumably he was a sickly new born child who died at just a few days old.
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On this day in 1719 at Alwalton in Huntingdonshire, my 6 x great grandparents Elizabeth Edis and William Brice married. Elizabeth came from the nearby parish of Elton.
I have not managed to trace William back at all.
They had 6 children, WIlliam died in 1759, and Elizabeth in 1769 or 1772.
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Miriam May Collett my 4th cousin was born this day in 1901. On the 1901 census she is shown as 1 day old and her name as N.K (Not known!).
Alice Catherine Cockett (nee Brand) my g.grandmother was born in Market Square, All Saints, Northampton in 1847. She was the first child of my 2 x g.grandparents, but on every census following her birth she was living with someone else.
Elizabeth Dameron my 10 x g.g.aunt was born in Westerfield, Suffolk in 1544. She was the 6th child of my 11 x g.grandparents. Unfortunately, although I know her father was called William, I cannot find out the name of her mother. In his will, William only refers to her, mainly as an afterthought, as “my wife”. I’ve contacted Suffolk Archives and they cannot find a marriage for William, mainly because I can only give an approximate date the it would be too costly for me to pay for one of the archivists to search through about 5 years of Parish records. Never mind, one day I might get back to Suffolk to conduct a search myself – our hopefully the Suffolk records will come on line.
Jeremiah Bagshaw my 6 x g.g.uncle was baptised in Bradfield, Yorkshire in 1684. He’s another one whose mother I can’t find. In this case, I have searched the Yorkshire records on Ancestry and on Familysearch without any luck. I also spent time in the churchyard trying to find graves, but most of them were so old the carving of the names was illegible.
Joseph Middleton my 3 x g.g.uncle was baptised in Millom, Cumberland in 1811. Joseph was the 6th of 12 children. No wonder when his mother died, her cause of death was given as Natural Decay!
Jane Middleton my 3 x g.g.aunt and sister of Joseph above, was baptised in 1818.
George Woodward my 4 x g.grandfather died in Norley, Cheshire in 1817. According to Cheshire parish records he was buried at St Laurence Church, Frodsham. This makes sense as his wife and various family members are buried there. Unfortunately, nobody seems to have got round to carving a gravestone with his name on it. I assume he is probably buried with his wife who died in 1805 – despite her gravestone showing she died in 1808!
Isaac Day my 3 x g.g.uncle died in Osbournby, Lincolnshire in 1785. Interestingly Isaac was his mother’s maiden name.
Edith Florence Cockett my g.aunt who died on 27 March 1894 was buried 3 days later on 30 March 1894 in Manchester General Cemetery. She was 5 years old. I cannot imagine what it must be like to have to bury a child at that age, and to make it worse she was buried on her mother’s birthday (Alice Catherine Brand the second person shown above).
Here is a photo of Alice Catherine Cockett (nee Brand)
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Oops ! Missed one yesterday.
Remember my Great Aunt Lizzie who ran away to Canada and married George Stubbs ? Her first son, (also a George) .... George John Walmsley Stubbs was born 29th March, 1901 in Manitoba. He married twice, and it is said he also had 'liaisons'; one of his six children was my lovely cousin Dorothy, with whom I stayed in Kelowna, and she came to visit me here, and I had a wonderful holiday in Greece with her !
Georges middle name of Walmsley was his English grandmothers nee name .... and it is, like Trowbridge, still in use in the Canadian branch of the family as a middle name, even though the modern generations have no idea where it came from, until I told them !!
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Did your Walmsleys originally come from Ireland Lydart, mine did, Fermanagh.
On 31st March 1816 William Tweedie was born in Carnwarth, Lanarkshire. He was the son of my 3xG grandfather's brother David and his wife Mary Orr and according to my new relationship gizmo, my 1st cousin 3 x removed. I don't know much more about him at present apart from he died in New Zealand sometime before 1900.
I missed his sister Christina in January so will add that she died in Redhill, South Australia in1902.
On 31st March 1856, my 4xG grandfather William Cudworth married his second wife Elizabeth Knowles in Leeds. He was a cordwainer and a widower living in East Water Lane. Elizabeth was a widow and born Elizabeth Coulton and living in Hatfield Yard at the time of the marriage. Wiliam would be widowed a second time and the last abode I have for him is a pub near Huddersfield.
On 31st March 1873 Thomas Brown died in Corbiehall, Bo'ness. He was the son of my 4xG grandparents John Brown and Janet Gibb, apparently making me his 3xg grand nephew. He left everything to his brother Alexander who was also the executor of his will, though he made provisions for his unmarried sisters, Margaret and Agnes. His brother, my 3xG grandfather Walter doesn't get a penny or even a mention. He left a grocery business and several properties he was renting out. How the son of a blacksmith acquired all this, I don't know. He is buried with his brother Alexander, his sister-in-law Janet Cuthill and his parents in the Lower Wynd churchyard in Bo'ness.
His will, which mentions Bo'ness by it's full title of Borrowstouness, is beautifully written and very easy to read as the snippet below shows.
Update: Sunday 31st March 2013 is the day that I received confirmation that the gravestone for my 5xG grandfather, Robert Tweedie (died 1772), grandfather of the above William, still exists. This information plus a photo of said stone was sent to me my my pal and fellow Rootschatter, Meg, to whom I am related through my Tweedie line.
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Today John Cock the churchwarden of Ashton under Lyne, died today in 1791.
He was mentioned on the 28th for his marriage
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Charles James Douglas, my great uncle died today in 1964 at Peterborough Memorial Hospital
He was the last of the watchmakers in the family.
My Dad new him as Uncle Charlie. He was a twin to George Percy Douglas ('Percy')
He took over the Clarke's business in Market PLace, Oundle, after his Uncle George Wyman Clarke died.
Charles served in the RAOC in the First World War
Charles married Muriel May Sabin in 1922, but they never had any children.
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It's my uncle Clive's 78th birthday today. Happy Birthday to you. xxx :D
For those who are already there, here is the new thread for April:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,641773.0.html
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William Spraggett Clarke and Anne Dyke my husband’s 2 x g.grandparents were married at St Mary’s Church, Warwick, in 1850. Both of them had unusual deaths, William hung himself and many years later, Anne died by falling downstairs and fracturing her skull.
Benjamin Hobson my 2 x g.g.uncle married Sarah Senior in Emley, Yorkshire in 1834
Alice Ann Conway (nee Cockett) my g.aunt was born at Collyhurst Road, Manchester in 1871. She was the 2nd daughter of my g.grandparents. She was 31 when she married and not being able to have children of her own, “adopted” her husband’s illegitimate child. I guess she knew he was her husband’s child because he was born to a servant living about 3 doors away, but not only that when his mother registered his birth, she gave Alice Ann’s husband’s surname as a middle name of the child!
William Smith my 7 x g.g.uncle was baptised at St Mary’s Parish Church, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire in 1672/3.
Elizabeth Isaac my 4 x g.g.aunt was baptised in Aswarby, Lincolnshire in 1749
Martha Hardy my husband’s 2 x g.g.aunt was baptised at St Laurence Church, Denton in 1839. She was the 3rd child of my husband’s 3 x g.grandfather Richard with his 2nd wife. Richard ended up with 10 children, 5 with each wife.
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Today in the year 2000 my mother died; she was 93. I wrote about her a couple of threads ago on 11th January, her birthday.
I still feel sad .. :'( .. and miss her dreadfully, but the anniversary of her death happening today on Easter Sunday made it very OK !! I know where she is ....
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On this day my gradfather Harry Jackson died in 1953 after being taken to Hospital at Chertsey.
He was only 63, and as I was only 17 months old I have no memory of him.
Harry was born in 1890 in HYde in Cheshire. He was training to be a mine manager, learmomg a lot and taking exams.
He was undermanager of the mine at Bredbury in approximately 1924, when he was involved in a pit fall. Harry's father Edward had already died by this stage (in 1921). My mother was also born while they were living at Bredbury.
I do not know the exact nature of his injuries, but he was not able to work in the pit again.
THe family moved south, along with Harry's mother Ann, and sister Annie and her husband Noah.
They all stayed initially with Harry's step-sister Sarah 'Sadie' Hammerton and her husband Joe (and her son Trevor from Sadie's first marriage)
Not sure how big the house was but the family settle in Ashford middlesex. Annie's family (and Ann ) settled in nearby Shepperton
Harry had a paperwork job.
They had two more children, one while staying at Sadie's and one in Ashford, making 5 in total.
It is clear that Harry's health was never perfect, but it was a real shock to the family when he died suddenly.
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I'm not locking this thread in case anyone has forgotten any late March anniversaries but please can we move to the April thread now.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,641773.0.html
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Grace Smith - nee Gee and Jonathan Catlow married today at Ashton under Lyne in 172
Jonathan, born a Quaker in Colne in 1705, baptised as a adult in 1721 , and became curate and schoolmaster of Ashton in 1725 and 1724.
Grace's previous marriage is unknown, but thank to an unmarried Aunt's will and property dealings, her identity is known.
They had 7 children, but Jonathan died quite early in 1746. Grace died in 1753.
Jonathan's inscription said
Here lieth the Body of Rev. Jonathan Cattlow late Curate of the Church for 21 years. June 1, 1746, aged 42 years & 9 months. Also Grace, Relict of Jonathan Catlow, buried Nov. 29, 1753, aged 52 years.
Some of Jonathan's dealing are mentioned in 'England in Ashton under Lyne'
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Stonechat .... are those last entries for March ? We have moved over to the new thread for April entries !
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,641773.0.html
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Just bookmarking
Strange as this is and I missed March sorry
My auntie Elizabeth Gilroy Stark was born on 31 .3.1913 at Spittal Berwickshire
She married James Faiil on 31.3.1939 At St Pauls Church Spittal
and died 31.3.1966 at Galashields Hospital aged 53
Elizabeth
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Have I missed a few threads here
I tried to find this thread yesterday
April 20th 1885 my grandmother Martha Thompson was born at Spittal Northumberland daughter of John Thompson and Jane Stuart Turnbull
This was also Adolf Hitlers birthdate
Today 21 April we Wish our Queen a happy birthday but sadly this is the date my father Joseph McKenzie die 45 years ago and it was a Sunday morning around 10 o'clock
Elizabeth
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Have I missed a few threads here
I tried to find this thread yesterday
April 20th 1885 my grandmother Martha Thompson was born at Spittal Northumberland daughter of John Thompson and Jane Stuart Turnbull
This was also Adolf Hitlers birthdate
Today 21 April we Wish our Queen a happy birthday but sadly this is the date my father Joseph McKenzie die 45 years ago and it was a Sunday morning around 10 o'clock
Elizabeth
We are here now....http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,641773.0.html
And that won't be for long - there will be another new thread next week! :D
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On 2 March
In 1835 my 2 x great grandparents, William Baker and Elizabeth Morrison Spiby, were married at Wartnaby, Leicestershire. I'm not sure how William came to be in Leicestershire, as he was born in Bray, Berkshire, but in the 1841 census he was a male servant, so maybe he went there with an employer. The family then moved to Lewisham where William became a coachman. I have never found their deaths.
In 1843 my great grandmother, Clara Rosina Giovannelli, was born in Clerkenwell, London, the youngest daughter of Gregorio (Gregory) and Mary (nee Kingham). I was pleased to find her birth as my father could not and he became convinced that she had been born in Italy. In fact she was registered as Rosina, but I took a chance and sent for the certificate and it was right! I don't know when she started to become known as Clara. There was certainly no way she could have been born in Italy - Gregorio came to England some time before 1818 when he and Mary married - they lived in the same house in Clerkenwell from then on until their deaths.
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My father was born on this day, the 4th of March, 1928.
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On 9 March 1958 my husband's maternal grandmother, Lizzie Prior (nee Armstrong), died in Enfield, Middlesex, aged 79. She looked after my husband when he was young, as his mother was widowed when he was only a year old, and she had to go to work.
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On 10 March 1850 a first cousin 3 x removed, Samuel Conquest, was born in Cardington, Bedfordshire, the youngest son of Josiah and Martha (nee Brampton). In May 1853 the family emigrated to the USA, quite an adventure for a 3 year old!
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On 11 March 1877 Samuel Conquest, whose birth I mentioned yesterday, married his first wife, Minnie Coon, in Clio, Genesee, Michigan. Sadly she died two years later, aged only 21. Their daughter Minnie Marie, born 1878, was looked after by Samuel's brother and sister, Thomas and Emma.
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On 12 March 1881 my paternal grandmother, Elizabeth Ann Elliott, was born in West Ham, London, daughter of George Charles and Sophia Jane (nee Hatch). I never warmed to her - maybe I was influenced by my father, who was very critical of her, saying she was a bad manager of money and her children suffered, especially when Grandpa was away during WW1.
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On 16 March 1839 my great great aunt, Rosalie Wilson, was born in Bloomsbury, London, the daughter of Robert and Harriet (nee Sewell). I know she never married but have been unable to find her on censuses after 1861 until 1911 when she was living with her brother, my great grandfather Frederic Sewell Wilson. She died in 1919 aged 80.
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On 17 March 1909 my husband's mother, Grace Patricia Prior, was born in Waltham Cross, Hertfordshire, only daughter of Archibald John and Lizzie (nee Armstrong). She was always called Pat in honour of her birthday on St Patrick's Day! My husband's father died in strange circumstances when they had only been married for 18 months. It was recorded as accidental death but may have been suicide. She married again aged 49 and died in 2002 aged 93. I was very fond of her and we got on well together.
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Today is my dear daughter's birthday. I'm glad that the weather is more like the first day of Spring than it was 45 years ago, when I'm told it was snowing!
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My Mum's birthday 6th March - 95yrs old and counting.......
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On 26 March 1884 my 2nd cousin 1 x removed, John Frederick Leopold Kelly, was born in Clerkenwell, London, the eldest son of John Andrew and Georgiana (nee Tyler). He later became an actor, using the stage name Jack Leopold, and appeared in minor roles in West End shows during the 1930s. It remains a mystery to me why he and other members of his extended family used the name Leopold, either as a surname or middle name.
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I am also descended from Christina Tweedie down through her son Thomas and then on to his daughter Mary Christina Rae ..... to my mother.
It's lovely to find family members.
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Philogus Collett was my 10th great Grandfather. My mother was the last Collett in our side of the family. My Grandfather Harry was born and raised in Suffolk but moved to Norfolk when he married. He died in 1970
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Hello Paul, welcome to Rootschat! This is a very old thread and I don't know how far back the post about your ancestor was? The person who posted it may not be still active on the site.
If you need any help or information, there is always someone who can help, and many different boards to post your comments or queries.
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I've a few today, but one of them will have to have a piece of his own, so here are the others
Philologus Collett my 5 x g.g.uncle was baptised in Eye, Suffolk in 1706/7
It was LizzieW on page 1, reply #6.
Pheno