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Title: 1851 neath census
Post by: cardiff on Monday 06 June 05 12:24 BST (UK)
Hi looking for  Elizabeth Palmer b.<1838> Ponypool also is there a George Mills b <1834 >  Shebbear Devon occupation Black smith.
cheers cardiff
Title: Re: 1851 neath census
Post by: NigelG on Monday 06 June 05 14:24 BST (UK)
These look likely  :)

Living at Mile End Row, Melincryddan

George Palmer, Hd, 55, Haulier, Born DEV Langtree
Catherine Palmer, Wi, 49, Dressmaker, Born WIL Colston (Calstone)
Sophia Palmer, Dau, 21, Dressmaker, Born MON Pontypool
George Palmer, Son, 17, Blacksmith, Born MON Pontypool
William, Son, 12, Scholar,  Born MON Pontypool
Elizabeth, Dau, 10, Scholar,  Born MON Pontypool

Living at Ynysmaerdy, Briton Ferry

John Peirce (sic), Hd, 29, Blacksmith, Born DEV Georgeham
Betsy Peirce, Wi, 30, Born DEV Shelborn (Sheldon)
George Mills, Stepson, 13, Labourer, Born DEV Shelborn (Sheldon)
Mary Peirce, Dau, 2, At Home, Born GLA Briton Ferry
Title: Re: 1851 neath census
Post by: cardiff on Monday 06 June 05 17:34 BST (UK)
Hi NigelG
 Yes this does look like them
Thank you for your help if you have the 1861-1871 census are the families still living in the same area?
 George Mills married Elizabeth Palmer set up home in cardiff and had 10 children.
cheers cardiff
Title: Re: 1851 neath census
Post by: NigelG on Monday 06 June 05 18:46 BST (UK)
Not in same area - moved to Cardiff c1859 by the look of things  :)

1861 - living at Llystalybont (Gabalfa district within Llandaff)

George, 27, Smith, B Devon Shaber (sic)
Elizabeth, 23, B Pontypool, MON
Catharine Sophis, Dau, 4, B GLA Neath
William RG, Son, 2 B GLA Cardiff

1871 - living North Rd, Gabalfa, Cardiff

George, 35, Blacksmith, B Devon
Elizabeth, 35, Blacksmith's wife, B Pontypool, MON
William, Son, 11, Errand Boy, B Cathays, Cardiff
Mary Elizabeth, Dau, 10,  Blacksmith's Dau, B Maindy, Cardiff
Thomas, Son, 7, Blacksmith's son, B Maindy, Cardiff
John Henry, Son, 5, Blacksmith's son, B Maindy, Cardiff
Stephen, Son, 3, Blacksmith's son, B Maindy, Cardiff
Charles Edward, Son, 1, Blacksmith's son, B Maindy, Cardiff

Title: Re: 1851 neath census
Post by: cardiff on Tuesday 07 June 05 07:36 BST (UK)
Hi NigelG
thank you  for the info is there any sign of the Palmer  and Peirce?
cheers cardiff
Title: Re: 1851 neath census
Post by: NigelG on Tuesday 07 June 05 09:45 BST (UK)
Resident Cardiff St Mary 1861

John Pearce, Hd, Blacksmith, B abt 1821   Heysham, Devon, England
Betsy Pearce, Wife, B abt 1816, Shebbear, Devon
Joseph Pearce, Son, B abt 1856, Briton Ferry, Glamorgan
Betsy Pearce, Daughter, B abt 1854, Briton Ferry, Glamorgan   
Elizabeth Pearce, Daughter, B abt 1852    Briton Ferry, Glamorgan   
   
Resident 41 Augusta Street, Cardiff St Mary District 1871

John Pearce, Head, Blacksmith, B abt 1819 Georgham, Devon, England
Betsy Pearce, Wife, B abt 1817, Devon, England
Bessy Pearce, Daughter, B abt 1854, Ynysmardy, Glamorgan
Joseph Pearce, Son, B abt 1856 Ynys Mardy, Glamorgan

Resident Thomas’ Row, Melincryddan, Neath 1861

Catherine Palmer, Hd, Widow, B abt 1798, Colston, Glamorgan, Wales
George Palmer, Son, Engine Driver, B abt 1834 Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales   
1871 - nearest match for Catherine is a Lodger at 15 Surrey (?) Tce, Neath (HOH = William Morgan (39 Railway Guard B Castle Martin) & wife Martha (26 B Llys Y Ffranc))

Catherine Palmer, Lodger, B 1797 GLA Cowbridge (??), No Occupation

Nearest match for George - Publican at Windsor Castle, 1 Windsor Street, Neath - married to Maria J (30 B Neath) - no children. George listed as Contract Publican age 37, B MON Pontypool.

Title: Re: 1851 neath census
Post by: cardiff on Tuesday 07 June 05 10:35 BST (UK)
Hi NigelG
Thank you- thank you- thank you for taking the time and making the effort.
You have been a great help
cheers cardiff :) ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: 1851 neath census
Post by: CardiffGirl on Saturday 26 December 09 14:31 GMT (UK)
These look likely  :)

Living at Mile End Row, Melincryddan

George Palmer, Hd, 55, Haulier, Born DEV Langtree
Catherine Palmer, Wi, 49, Dressmaker, Born WIL Colston (Calstone)
Sophia Palmer, Dau, 21, Dressmaker, Born MON Pontypool
George Palmer, Son, 17, Blacksmith, Born MON Pontypool
William, Son, 12, Scholar,  Born MON Pontypool
Elizabeth, Dau, 10, Scholar,  Born MON Pontypool

Living at Ynysmaerdy, Briton Ferry

John Peirce (sic), Hd, 29, Blacksmith, Born DEV Georgeham
Betsy Peirce, Wi, 30, Born DEV Shelborn (Sheldon)
George Mills, Stepson, 13, Labourer, Born DEV Shelborn (Sheldon)
Mary Peirce, Dau, 2, At Home, Born GLA Briton Ferry

I Have been perplexed as to who and what happend to George's biological father as I see he is the stepson
Title: Re: 1851 neath census
Post by: CardiffGirl on Sunday 27 December 09 23:46 GMT (UK)
I just found the Pearce family in the 1881 British Census.  By now my GGGG Granny has moved a few streets from Augusta Street to  22 Longcross Street, Roath.  It's so strange that I walk past the house almost every day.

 John PEARCE      Head  M 60  b.Georgham, Devon, England   Blacksmith      
 Betsy PEARCE  Wife  M 63  b.Sherbear, Devon, England            
 Mary PEARCE      Daur  U 32  b.Briton Ferry, Glamorgan, Wales Dressmaker      
 Bessie PEARCE   Daur  U 26  b.Briton Ferry, Glamorgan, Wales            
 Joseph PEARCE  Son  M 24  b.Briton Ferry, Glamorgan, Wales Blacksmith      
 Henry HARRIS  Boarder W 42  b.Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales   Pilot (Ship)
Title: Re: 1851 neath census
Post by: cardiff on Monday 04 January 10 17:18 GMT (UK)
hi
glad to see you are doing your homework.
even better that you know their home they lived in.
keep in touch
happy new year
cheers cardiff ;)
Title: Re: 1851 neath census
Post by: cyncoedgirl on Monday 13 January 20 16:14 GMT (UK)
Hi I have a George Mills and Elizabeth on my family tree.George is my GGGrandfather.He moved from Shabbear Devon to find work.Lived in 87 May St Cardiff and was a grocers assistant.
Had 12 children including my G Grandfather William RG.
I am Linda James nee Mills.