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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Romilly on Thursday 07 March 13 20:59 GMT (UK)
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I wonder if anyone could do a Look-up for me please?
I'm looking for Joseph Henry McGowen, born 25th April 1890 in Redfern, Sydney, NSW. He was married to Alice Muriel, (I'm not sure of her maiden name) and in 1919 she was in Watarah, NSW, awaiting his return from serving in France in the 1st Pioneer Battalion during WW1. He was a Surveyor and Civil Engineer, and so I expect that he would have been working in this field at the time of the 1921 Census.
Cheers, Romilly.
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I can't see a census for 1921 but there is this info.
In the 1936 electoral rolls he and Alice Muriel are living at 23 Bathurst Street Liverpool. His occupation is civil engineer and hers home duties.
still there in 1937
1943 and 1949 at 33 Goulburn Street, Joseph is a shire engineer. Living at the same address is a Frank Noel McGowan, a fitter.
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Hi Romilly,
This doesn't answer your question but I notice that there is a probate package at NSW state records
http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/ResultList.aspx for Joseph Henry McGowan who died 13/11/1967.
Is this him and do you have this? (I am going to NSW SRO today and could look this up for you)
regards,
Ros
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1954
Joseph Henry, a Surveyor
Alice Muriel,
Frank Noel an Engineer
all at Bringelly Road via Liverpool
1958 and 1963
same address but Frank isn't with them.
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1980
Athol James Cooper, sales manager and Anna May McGowen, clerk, are with Alice Muriel at 119 Patrick St Hurstville.
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Marriage
Joseph H Mcgowen
Spouse - Alice M Fry
Registered - Newcastle, New South Wales
Registered 1915
Registration number - 7627
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Hi Romilly,
This doesn't answer your question but I notice that there is a probate package at NSW state records
http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/ResultList.aspx for Joseph Henry McGowan who died 13/11/1967.
Is this him and do you have this? (I am going to NSW SRO today and could look this up for you)
regards,
Ros
Hi Ros,
No, I don't have this, - and I can't seem to access it from the UK. And yes please, - I should be very grateful if you could look this up for me.
Many thanks, Romilly.
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Trove newspapers have some articles about Joseph.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=joseph+henry+mcgowen
Sacked returned soldier awarded 400 pounds.
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Crisane, - thanks so much for all that info!
Cheers, Romilly.
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Marriage notice
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15577075
regards,
Ros
(will add it to my list for NSW sro :) )
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I see that there's a family tree up on the GENI Site for this family. I can't seem to access it, - is this an Australian only family history Site?
Romilly.
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Marriage notice
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15577075
regards,
Ros
(will add it to my list for NSW sro :) )
Many thanks Ros, - much appreciated!
Romilly :)
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I can't see any public trees on ancestry for your man, only for the Joseph Henry born 1868 Tumut.
I don't know about the GENI site.
If you put Joseph Henry McGowen Australia in to a search engine you will come up with quite a few hits.
This is ancestry's other site where you should be able to access the info.
http://www.mundia.com/au/Search/Results?surname=MCGOWEN&birthPlace=Australia
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Yes, I have the Mundia Site as a Phone App, - brilliant way of accessing Ancestry!
And J.H. McGowan does seem to pop up a lot on Google, - possibly because his father, James Sinclair McGowen was (briefly) Premier of NSW.
Romilly.
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Hi
May or may not help http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mdickson&id=I08410
Muss
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I am assuming that you have accessed the WW1 records for
Joseph Henry MCGOWEN
On his application in Jan 1916 his postal address is in Neutral Bay. When he enlisted Muriel's address was given as Palace St, Petersham (suburb of Sydney), which is also the address of his father - see below. In 1916 note is made of the new address - Muriel was with a Mrs J T? FRY at Turner St, Waratah (suburb of Newcastle).
He was overseas from May 1916 to Feb 1919.
There is also a record for
Frank Noel MCGOWEN, sadly died of shrapnel wound in the back in Alexandria
Enlisted 1914, b Redfern abt 1895. Next of kin: father J S T MCGOWEN, Palace St, Petersham. A later NoK is given - his brother - J H MCGOWEN, Euralla St, Burwood. this addition is not dated. Joseph gives his mother's name as Emily.
I guess the Frank Noel MCGOWEN at the same address as Joseph and Alice Muriel in the 1940s is their son named for his uncle.
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx
You do not need to register.
Judith
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Thanks for all that Judith.
Yes, I found the WW1 Records, - it was the Australian Census records that I couldn't access.
I am trying to ascertain if there are any living descendants.
Romilly.
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Hi
There are no Australian census records accessable to the public, censuses from 2001 asked about the retention of the information for release in 99 years, those who said yes was retained, the rest destroyed. Australian censuses earlier than this were destroyed. There are a handful of State censuses with limited information from the 19th century.
Andy
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Hi Romilly,
I have an image of his death cert, will and summary of effects.
Please pm your e-mail address if you would like these
Brief summary :
McGowen Joseph Henry
Occ civil engineer
Place of Marriage Newcastle
at age 25yrs
Alice Murial Fry
cause of death coronary thrombosis
Age77 Cremation 15 Nov 1967 Northern Suburbs Crematorium : Inquest dispensed with.
Children Frank N 47 years
Athol J C 46 years
Father James Sinclair Taylor McGowen ,Member of Legislative Assembly
Mother Emily Towner
DOD 13 Nov 1967 26 Romford rd epping
regards,
Ros
There is a death notice in SMH (see Ryersons) Having bad internet and other problems -will
lookup later if no one else has
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Goodness... that seems rather draconian!
I wouldn't have been able to do any of my family history research without access to the UK Census collection, 1841-1911.
Romilly.
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wrong one sorry
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I was able to send Romilly a snippet of Alice's death notice.
But I had trouble with Joseph's :( Only the first part came up enlarged. Is it me ??? or can someone else with SMH access see if they can bring it up properly. (I seem to be in Klutz mode :()
cheers,
Ros
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Son Athol (known as Jock?) was in WW2
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/
Service Number - 14128 : Date of birth - 30 Aug 1921 : Place of birth - BURWOOD NSW : Place of enlistment - Unknown : Next of Kin - MCGOWEN JOSEPH
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=4560280
Joseph Henry also served in Ww2
regards,
Ros
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Thanks so much Ros for finding all of this info.
Your help is greatly appreciated.
Many thanks, Romilly.
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Hi Romilly,
I have connections to Joseph Henry McGowen and knew is wife, sons, grandchildren and now great grandchildren. I have just joined this site to correspond with you.
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Hi LilRic,
Nice to meet you.
If you make 3 Posts to this Forum, then you will be able to receive PMs, (private messages) on here.
Romilly.
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Actually there are now some great great grandchildren
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Many Thanks LilRic, for the futher info (by PM).
Romilly.