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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: Erato on Friday 08 March 13 21:37 GMT (UK)
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In the 1860 census in Philadelphia, PA, there is a Margaret Hopkins, aged 16, born 1844 in Pennsylvania. Could someone take a look at the original record to see whether she was living with her family and, if so, who her parents were and her father's occupation.
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Hi Erato,
Could be this one - Philadelphia Ward 12 Division 1, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1860
William Dunlap 52 Born District of Columbia. Carriage Builder.
Margaret Dunlap 51 Born delaware
William D Dunlap 9 Born PA
Emma Dunlap 11 Born PA
James Rose 17 Servant born PA
Clara Haines 22 Servant born PA
Margaret Hopkins 16 Servant born PA
Sandra
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Thanks, Sandra. Yeah, that's the one. Can you find her with her family in 1850, maybe?
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Hmmm. Hiding at the moment I'm afraid :'( There is one in Brady Bend Armstrong PA but possibly to far away from Philadelphia ? Still looking.
Sandra
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I don't know that she was necessarily born in Philadelphia or that she resided there in 1850. All I know about the Margaret Hopkins I am looking for is that she was born in 1844 in Pennsylvania, that she married William H. Stalla in Philadelphia in 1868, that they had two children in 180-71, and that she probably died in Philadelphia in 1902.
Thanks for looking.
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OK, lets put the 1850 here just to see if anything comes of it - Bradys Bend, Armstrong, Pennsylvania in 1850
David Hopkins 34 Born 1816 England.
Elizabeth Hopkins 34 Born 1816 England.
David Hopkins 13 Born 1837 England.
Annie Hopkins 11 Born 1839 England.
Elizabeth J Hopkins 9 Born 1841 PA.
Margaret Hopkins 7 Born 1844 PA.
Caroline Hopkins 2 Born 1848 PA.
Mary Hopkins 0 Born 1850 PA.
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Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1880
William Stalla 36 Born 1844 NY
Margaret Stalla 36 Born 1844 Pennsylvania
Ida M. Stalla 10 Born 1870 PA
Joseph Hopkins 70 Born New Jersey 1810. Boarder. Cutter.
Mary R. Hopkins 68 Born PA 1912
Sandra
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Philadelphia Death Cert for a Joseph Hopkins
Joseph Hopkins - Birth Date abt 1810 Birth Place: Mount Holly, New Jersey
20 Jan 1884 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - Aged 74 years. Married
Burial Date 27 Jan 1884 Philadelphia Pennsylvania
Occupation Shoemaker Street Address: 1226 Citron St
Cemetery Mechanic
Sandra
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Philadelphia Ward 13 Dist 38 (2nd Enum - there were 2 that year), Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Joseph Hopkins 60 and Mary Hopkins aged 55 years. Ida Mourry aged 1 years. ???
William and Margaret Stalla both aged 25 years are above then on the census.
Sandra
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Looks like the first enum Philadelphia Ward 13 District 38, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in 1870
William Stuller 26 Safe Manufacturer. Born NY.
Magaret Stuller 25 Born PA
Joseph Hopkins 60 Born NJ. Shoe-Maker.
Mary Hopkins 59 Born PA
Rebecca Murrey 1 month Born PA
Rathee Shingle 2 Born PA
Sandra
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Margaret a few years younger on this one and on the other one is listed in Philadelphia in 1860 ??? - 1860 Union, Camden, New Jersey
Joseph Hopkins 50 Born NJ. Shoe Business.
Mary Hopkins 49 Born PA
Margaret Hopkins 21 Born PA
Emma E Hopkins 15 Born PA
George Hopkins 10 Born NJ
Sandra
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Greenwich, Gloucester, New Jersey in 1850
Joseph Hopkins 40 Farmer. Born NJ
Mary R Hopkins 35 Born PA
Ann Eliza Hopkins 15 Born PA
Margaret Hopkins 12 Born PA
Josephine Hopkins 10 Born PA
Emma E Hopkins 6 Born PA
George S Hopkins 2 months Born NJ
Sandra
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Could be Mary R Hopkins (Mother)
Mary R Hopkins - Birth Date: abt 1811 Phila, PA
Death Date 10 Aug 1896 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Aged 85 years. Married. Pneumonia. Burial Date 13 Aug 1896 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
1629 So Carlisle St , Ward 26
Cemetery Mechanics
Sandra
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Good grief, Sandra! All that in the time it took for me to get home on the bus. Thanks for putting all that together. I will upgrade my files and then move on to my real target, Ida Stalla.
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A few little gremlins in among it all but I think that it does look like your Margaret with parents.
Philadelphia Ward 34, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1920 (Salvation Army Maternity Hospital) shows an Ida Stella born 1871 PA. Single. Attache. Father born New York and Mother Pennsylvania.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MXMK-ZQC
Sandra
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Could this be the marriage ?
Joseph Hopkins to Mary Johnston 1 Sep 1831 Monmouth, New Jersey
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VWRZ-Z24
Sandra
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Yes, I believe that would be her in 1920. A lot of the Stallas changed the spelling to "Stella." What would an "attache" be? She was 49 - a bit old to be a new mother. Looks like she never married.
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Adult baptism - Ida Murry Stella - Eighteenth Street Methodist Episcopal Church - 6 Sep 1889 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Sandra
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Don't know if this could be Ida, the age would be out 10 years and a couple of other details wouldn't check out either but there are a few idiosyncrasies ???
Buckingham, Bucks, Pennsylvania in 1910
Edward H Williams 74 Farmer.
Anna H Williams 60
Ida Stellor 30 Servant. Parents born Ireland ? Private Family. House Worker.
Marget Stellor 3 Born PA
Charles E Scutt 45
in 1920 Ivy Home. Salvation Army. Philadelphia Ward 34, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Margaret aged 12 years born PA. Father born Ireland and Mother Pennsylvania
Could "attaché" be after carer - once the ladies had there babies ?
Sandra
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Just incase there is anything in the Ida and Margaret Stella line and it turns out not to be a red-herring ::) - There are 2 family tree's, with Margaret Stella born 1907 one has a photograph of her) Married a Frank Irving and then Vandoren T Dayton. Also a photograph of Ida Murray Stella who they say died 1915 (but no source) A trip to http://www.mundia.com/gb/ maybe ?
Sandra
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There is a class record - can't find a date - 1888 - 1924 - Class Number 4 - Ida M Stella - 1629 Carlisle
(1629 Carlisle So was an address on the death of Mary R Hopkin - reply 12 - so there must be a link.
Sandra
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Confirmation - Ida Stella - 22 May 1899 - St Timothy´s Protestant Episcopal
Eighteenth Street Methodist Episcopal Church - Page headed :- Probationers :- February 1 1889 - Ida Stella - 1323 Ward - received into full membership.
Sandra
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Marriage of Margaret Stella and Frank Irving.
Margaret E Stella Oct 16 1928 13854 Kings
Frank J Irving Oct 16 1928 Kings 13854
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0t3q/
http://italiangen.org/NYCGROOMSRESULTS.asp
Sandra
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SSDI Record of death of Margaret:-
Margaret Dayton Born 4 Feb 1907 and died January 1980
Last Benefit 08071 Pitman, Gloucester, New Jersey,
SSN issued New Jersey (Before 1951)
Sandra
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Eighteenth Street Methodist Episcopal Church - Class records - Class 3 - William H and Margaret Stella - 1629 Carlisle - April 15th 1896
Sandra
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Seems to be a link to Mechanics cemetery with Hopkins and Stella. You probably have these.
William H Stella - Burial: American Mechanics Cemetery (Defunct)
Philadelphia Philadelphia County Pennsylvania.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0t3r/
William H Stella
Birth Date abt 1845 New York Death 20 May 1898 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Pneumonia.
Burial Date 24 May 1898 - Aged 53 years - Married.
Occupation Machinist - Street Address 1629 S Carlisle St
Cemetery Mechanics.
Margaret resided:-Ward 36, 1705 S Doirance - 24 dec 1902. Exhaustion. Burial Mechanics
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VK88-6XT
Sandra