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Alice trained as a nurse and deaconess in Melbourne about 1900. Nurse in Alice Springs about late 1900's.
I am looking for a marriage to a Dr William Taylor - his name taken from her Death Certificate Victoria.
I am unsure, as she travelled overseas as a nurse missionary in Korea and India,could even married in Shanghai. She was a nurse in Korea and India between 1910 - 1920. I do not know when Alice was in Shanghai.
Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
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There are some newspaper articles on what appears to be the Doc's death, a little history on him in the articles as well.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q&exactPhrase=Dr+William+Taylor&anyWords¬Words&l-decade=193&l-year=1938
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When did Alice die? And was her death under the name Taylor?
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When did Alice die? And was her death under the name Taylor?
Hi there,
Perhaps this one?
There is an online INDEX showing a death registration, Croydon Victoria, in 1950 for an Alice Eliz TAYLOR, aged 70. Parents indexed as Lawrence Drew MAIN and Francis HALL. #18394.
Cheers, JM
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Dear Giblet, thank you so much - answered a long time question and is the first personal details I have for him.
Dear majm - When did Alice die? And was her death under the name Taylor? Died in Croydon, Victoria Vic, 1950 as Alice Taylor.
Robert
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The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956)
Tuesday 6 June 1950
TAYLOR- On June 5, at Mt Dandenong, Alice, dearly beloved wife of the late Dr William Taylor, and loved mother of Jean. Late of Korean Foreign Mission
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Dear giblet, you are so kind, thank you. You must be in OZ or staying up very late.
Robert
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Yep im in Oz, up in north QLD ;D
And your welcome :)
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Looks like the Doc was in Australia in 1920
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956)
Saturday 27 November 1920
GARDENVALE, North Rd., Mission Sunday.
Morning, Rev. R. Wilson Macaulay, B.A. and Dr. William Taylor (of Korea); evening, Rev. E. L. Slade Mallen (of Collingwood).
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I am looking for a marriage to a Dr William Taylor - his name taken from her Death Certificate Victoria.
As you have the dc, that I found the ref no. for, .... are you saying that it does not have information about her marriage? .... What information does that 1950 dc have?
I am looking for a marriage to a Dr William Taylor - his name taken from her Death Certificate Victoria.
Cheers, JM
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I can't see a marriage in Victoria from 1901 to 1942. :-\
Dee :)
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Springvale Botanical Cemetery
TAYLOR Alice Elizabeth
Cremation - Date of service 7 Jun 1950
The cremated remains have been scattered.
Cando
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A bit more on the doc from Trove. It has a bit of history on him but its really hard to read.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/22995097?searchTerm=%22doctor%20william%20taylor%22&searchLimits=exactPhrase=doctor+william+taylor+
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Hi
Death notice of Lawrence Main 25 Jun 1923 Alice is listed as Mrs W Taylor of Korea.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2019412?searchTerm=alice taylor korea&searchLimits=
Musss
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There is also a will/probate on line in the VIC archives for
Lawrence D Main Farmer Drouin 22 Jun 1923 191/563
Slowly narrowing dates down for when Alice married but none the wiser on where ???
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http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/37945372?searchTerm="nurse main"&searchLimits=
This may be poor photo of Nurse Main ;D
Sue
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Just had a idea :o
One of the family notices state a child by the name Jean. Can a birth index for a Jean Taylor with parents William and Alice be found. We know that William and Alice were married before 1923 so a birth before then might help narrow dates down more, tho i think they must have married overseas.
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Re the child named in the 1950 cutting ..... (reply # 17 & reply # 6)
This person could well be alive, and so we need to be aware of the RChat policy not to identify living persons.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,368728.0.html
"Here on RootsChat we are very concerned that the privacy and security of the living is protected. For this reason we do not allow searches for living persons ....."
Cheers, JM
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I can't see a birth in Victoria.
I checked freeBMD for a marriage just in case, but it didn't turn up there.
Dee :)
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Thanks Dee, so maybe marriage and birth overseas. Maybe Korea since they appeared to be around there.
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Hi
A little more on Dr Taylor http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/60715138?searchTerm= dr w taylor korea&searchLimits=
Muss
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I wonder if this could be Alice ???
Examiner (Launceston, Tas. : 1900 - 1954)
Friday 24 June 1904
At a meeting of the committee, held on the 20th instant, the certificates were presented to the nurses named, together with the badge to Nurse Walker. Three years' agreement entered into: Nurse Elizabeth Alice Main signed articles of agreement, dating from nMarch 2. Messrs. Shanks and Co., Melbourne,
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Hi
Bingo marriage 1913
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/26891108?searchTerm= dr william taylor korea&searchLimits=
Muss
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Hi
married in Korea
Muss
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Oh, well found Muss! :D :D :D
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Oh yes, Muss, as Dee says Well Found Muss :) :) :) :)
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Good find muss :D
Gotta love Trove ;D And someone with a good eye ;)
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From the newspaper snippet it appears that Wm TAYLOR died in Japan in Sep 1938. I don't have time today to type up the item. Yes it is difficult to read but it can be worked out between the text and the digitised clip.
Alice trained as a nurse and deaconess in Melbourne about 1900. Nurse in Alice Springs about late 1900's.
I am looking for a marriage to a Dr William Taylor - his name taken from her Death Certificate Victoria.
I am unsure, as she travelled overseas as a nurse missionary in Korea and India,could even married in Shanghai. She was a nurse in Korea and India between 1910 - 1920. I do not know when Alice was in Shanghai.
Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
A Victorian death certificate has the following which should be completed.
If the deceased was married
12 (1) Where .. .. ..
and
(2) At what age .. .. ..
and
(3) To whom .. .. ..
(4) Conjugal condition as date of death
13 The issue in order of birth
the names and ages .. ..
Could we please have ALL the information on the death certificate. It is the small details that are often important eg who was the informant etc.
In 1943 Alice Elizabeth TAYLOR [yes given names reversed] Home Duties and Janie Alice TAYLOR were living at 2 Aroha Crescent, Camberwell, Nurse.
In 1949 Elizabeth Alice TAYLOR Home duties, with a Janie Alice TAYLOR at Scenic Crescent Kalorama, Home duties, which is in the Dandenongs.
Janie is alone at that address in 1954.
Cando
Red warning...see the marriage has been found but surely all the information is on the marriage cert.
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Correction....on the death cert.
Thank goodness I am leaving for a holiday today - no more stuff ups for a while
Cando
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May I support Cando's request re all the information on the dc please.
Cheers, JM
I am looking for a marriage to a Dr William Taylor - his name taken from her Death Certificate Victoria.
As you have the dc, that I found the ref no. for, .... are you saying that it does not have information about her marriage? .... What information does that 1950 dc have?
Cheers, JM
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hi
Thank you, I had tried everthing, then just typed Dr William Taylor Korea.
Trove must have the mind of a male, give it too much information ie Main Taylor marriage Korea and it shuts down or just keeps thinking.
Muss
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hi
Thank you, I had tried everthing, then just typed Dr William Taylor Korea.
Trove must have the mind of a male, give it too much information ie Main Taylor marriage Korea and it shuts down or just keeps thinking.
Muss
Oh so its Mr Trove ;D
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As for the death certificate, yes its handy to have all the info on them but at times depending who the informant is there is limited information. I got the impression this is what happened with Alice's death certificate as the poster had the husbands name but since he was looking for the marriage there must have been very limited information regarding this marriage.
A good work out for my brain anyway ;D
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Hello everyone. Wow, thank you for all your input. I cannot wait to assemble, sort and record all that has been found. A descendant did search Trove, however, for William Taylor didn't find what you have. She is so grateful. I started this post for this lady, non-Rootschat member, who has a direct lineage to this couple and had hit a number of bickwalls. Having had immense success using Rootschat for my research I suggested this site. Your input and new information is marvellous. So impressed and grateful is this relative that she has "signed up". Thank you and you may start to see input from this lady as a "newbie".
Robert
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Just a bit of trivia but it appears the Doc and Alice worked together in the John G. Paton Hospital in Vila, in the New Hebrides before they married.
The marriage notice that Muss found and posted the link on #22
The West Australian (Perth, WA : 1879 - 1954)
Tuesday 25 November 1913
Miss E. A. Main, formerly matron of the John G. Paton Hospital in Vila, in the New Hebrides, will leave Melbourne for Korea shortly. Her marriage with Dr. Taylor,. a well-known medical missionary in Tong Yeng, in the south of Korea, will take place on her arrival there.
Then i found this
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956)
Saturday 20 September 1913
One day Mr. Jacomb saw a man coming lo his office dressed in what appeared to be a red singlet, bul, as he carne in, he found it was blood. He had a deep cut in his head, and had walked six miles in this condition. Mr. Jacomb sent him across to the John G'. Paton Memorial Hospital, and it took Dr. Taylor 12 hours lo stop the bleeding. etc etc etc
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/7241440
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Just for interest ... So William went over to New Hebrides in June 1910 and Alice was already there in 1911.
The Mercury (Hobart, Tas. : 1860 - 1954)
Tuesday 30 November 1909
Dr,. William ^Taylor, who is at present completing his studies nt the Edinburgh University, has been appointed mission- ary to the New Hebrides Jby the Presbj' terinn Church of Victoria. Dr. Taylor will take a special course in the study - of tropical diseases, and will leave tlie University for Australia in April next, proceeding to_the Now Hebrides in June.
Chronicle (Adelaide, SA : 1895 - 1954)
Saturday 1 April 1911
Nurse Main, who was succeeded at the Presbyterian mission at Oodnadrtta by Nurse Latto Bett.' is now matron of the J. G. Paton Hospital at Fela, in the New Hebrides
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Thank you giblet - you are a champion.
Robert
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Many thanks from a newbe, to giblet, muse, majim, cando and dee. You have restored my faith!
I've been facinated ever since I read Alice's letter to my gm about her training as nurse, deaconess in 1900. Also a women's lib!!! Thanks also to muso.bob.
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Your welcome :)
If you need any more info just let us know.
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I've been doing a bit more digging around and found out that the Doc had been married before and his wife Janie died in 1912.
The Doc has a mention in 2 books written by John Graham Miller and Alice has a mention in one book written by the same fella. Im not sure if the below links will work.
Live, a history of church planting in the Republic of Vanuatu ..... the doc is mentioned.
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=APPYAAAAMAAJ&q=inauthor:%22John+Graham+Miller%22&dq=inauthor:%22John+Graham+Miller%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Y4pGUabwEPCcmQWBnICIDw&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA
Live: 1881-1920 ...... the Doc and Alice both mentioned.
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=jPLYAAAAMAAJ&q=inauthor:%22John+Graham+Miller%22&dq=inauthor:%22John+Graham+Miller%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Y4pGUabwEPCcmQWBnICIDw&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAQ
How much information is on both of them i dont know, there are only little snippets of info available without obtaining the books.
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It appears that Dr. William Taylor and Elizabeth Alice Main Taylor were married December 22, 1913 in Shanghai, China. Travel to and from Korea by missionaries at this time was very common.
Here is the link to the marriage certificate on ancestry.com
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1993/41814_b157185-00230?pid=1118052&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db%3DUKForeignVitals%26h%3D1118052%26indiv%3Dtry%26o_vc%3DRecord:OtherRecord%26rhSource%3D60528&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true
I am interested now in the surname of Dr. Taylor's first wife, Janie. Does anyone know?
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Can't help with maiden name of first wife. Link to headstone of his daughter from his second marriage. She was born in Korea.
https://billiongraves.com/grave/JANIE-ALICE-PRIEST/10341242#/
Cando
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From UK, Foreign and Overseas Registers of British Subjects, 1628-1969
Marriage, from Register of Marriages solemnized Shanghai, China
22 December, 1913
by ? J Walker, Dean of Holy Trinity Cathedral
William TAYLOR, widower, 36, medical missionary, father: James TAYLOR (deceased)
Elizabeth Alice MAIN, spinster, missionary nurse, father: Laurence Drew MAIN (Iron founder)
Witnesses: Edmund K Lomas? N A Vilondaki?
Judith
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TROVE has a notification of the death of the wife of Dr William TAYLOR at Vila in the New Hebrides, no name given. States that the couple commenced work in the islands in 1910. No death date given but the date of the newspaper article is 27 April 1912.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/143330445
Judith