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Title: Macintosh, Mackenzie, Murray genealogy
Post by: Chrisvp on Saturday 16 March 13 20:25 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I am researching my ancestors from Dornoch, Sutherland who immigrated to Nova Scotia in the early 1800', specifically their parents who I am having a hard time finding. My family Records indicate that
Donald Macintosh born 1821 and his wife Christy Murray came to Canada sometime in the 1840's.
John Mackenzie born 1782 and his wife Catherine Macintosh born 1792 came to Canada in 1834.
Both families lived in West Branch, River John, Pictou Co. Nova Scotia. According to Canadian census
Both families came from Dornoch, I am not sure if they departed from Dornoch or were actually born
in Dornoch. If any one can direct me to their respective lineage it would be much appreciated.
Regards, Chris
Title: Re: Macintosh, Mackenzie, Murray genealogy
Post by: Sharon01 on Saturday 16 March 13 21:05 GMT (UK)
Hi,

This could be a possibility for Donald.

Donald Macintosh born 27/02/1821, Dornoch, Sutherland.
Parents Donald Macintosh & Rachel Murray.

Sharon
Title: Re: Macintosh, Mackenzie, Murray genealogy
Post by: Chrisvp on Saturday 16 March 13 21:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Sharon,
Thank you, I have found that on familysearch but I can't be 100% sure.
Cheers,
Chris
Title: Re: Macintosh, Mackenzie, Murray genealogy
Post by: Sharon01 on Saturday 16 March 13 21:17 GMT (UK)
What did Donald & Christy name their children?

Sharon
Title: Re: Macintosh, Mackenzie, Murray genealogy
Post by: Chrisvp on Saturday 16 March 13 21:20 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Donald and Christys children were:
Robertina 1848
Findlay 1849
William 1853
John 1856
All were born in Nova Scotia.
Title: Re: Macintosh, Mackenzie, Murray genealogy
Post by: Chrisvp on Saturday 16 March 13 21:32 GMT (UK)
I will also add John Mackenzie and Catherine Macintosh's children. They had 12 children all born in Scotland:
John
David 1810-1812
Hugh Daniel 1812-1867
Margaret 1815
Mary
Donald 1817
Elizabeth 1819
George 1821
William 1824
Alexander 1826
Christy 1829
Marian 1832
Title: Re: Macintosh, Mackenzie, Murray genealogy
Post by: Sharon01 on Saturday 16 March 13 21:40 GMT (UK)
I was looking for naming patterns here but the name Finlay has thrown me a little. The Donald born to Donald & Racehel had a brother John and there was a Rachel Murray born  Darnoch in 1822 who had a father called Robert & mother Margaret and a few births for a William Murray to a Robert & Margaret , but again this is all hearsay.

Sharon
Title: Re: Macintosh, Mackenzie, Murray genealogy
Post by: Chrisvp on Saturday 16 March 13 21:46 GMT (UK)
Findlay, Finlay, Finley are common names in the Scots community in Nova Scotia at this time. I also
Tried connecting by familial names but not successful, what I need to find is church records or others
that list families in the Dornoch area.
Thanks,
Chris
Title: Re: Macintosh, Mackenzie, Murray genealogy
Post by: Sharon01 on Saturday 16 March 13 21:53 GMT (UK)
Scotlands People has only one record for a Donald Macintosh born between 1800 & 1825 in Darnoch, parents are Donald & Rachel Murray.

Sharon
Title: Re: Macintosh, Mackenzie, Murray genealogy
Post by: Chrisvp on Saturday 16 March 13 22:05 GMT (UK)
Thank you Sharon! Odds are these are my Donald's parents. I'd love to have corroborating evidence but you cannot always find it. For two years I researched a branch of my German side only to find out it was cousins of my direct line, it did work out in the end though got back to the late 1500s.
Cheers,
Chris
Title: Re: Macintosh, Mackenzie, Murray genealogy
Post by: Sharon01 on Saturday 16 March 13 22:11 GMT (UK)
That's great news about your German line, unfortunately sometimes we are never 100% sure and lines tend to stop after that, I have many experiences in my tree, suspicions yes, fact no.

Sharon
Title: Re: Macintosh, Mackenzie, Murray genealogy
Post by: Chrisvp on Sunday 17 March 13 17:46 GMT (UK)
I have found on familysearch the children of Donald MacIntosh and Rachel Murray:
Jane 1806 Rogart
Hugh 1804 Rogart
Donald 1821 Dornoch
John 1798 Rogart
Patrick 1800 Rogart

Donald and Rachel must have been quite old when they had Donald1821 or he was one of
Their children's child ???. I have also found on familysearch the 1841 census donald1821 living
In Edrachillis and several other Donald Macintoshs in their seventies and eighties. Now does
Any one have any advice to figure out who is who ???
Regards, Chris
Title: Re: Macintosh, Mackenzie, Murray genealogy
Post by: Chrisvp on Sunday 24 March 13 18:57 GMT (UK)
Does anyone know if the 1841 census for dornoch is available? The ones I have don't seem to be complete, especially for Dornoch.

I have found a Donald Macintosh living in Eddrachillis in the 1841 census but with a different family,
It might not be my Donald. If I could find a census that listed family members it would solve a lot of questions.
Cheers,
Chris
Title: Re: Macintosh, Mackenzie, Murray genealogy
Post by: Sharon01 on Monday 25 March 13 07:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

Have found this family in 1841 living at Little Torbo, Darnoch.

Donald Mcintosh 75 army pensioner
Rachel Mcintosh 60
Rachel Mcintosh 25
Margrate Mcintosh 20
Euphemia Mcintosh 18
John McDonald 30

All born Sutherland.

There is a Donald Macintosh working as an ag labourer at a place called Pittintrail, Rogart. But his age is 15.

Sharon
Jean McDonald 28
Title: Re: Macintosh, Mackenzie, Murray genealogy
Post by: Chrisvp on Monday 25 March 13 13:41 GMT (UK)
Thanks Sharon,
I'll look into that. Are you a McDonald? I have another of my line that are McDonalds, I do not know yet what part of Scotland they are from but I believe they came across on the ship HECTOR, the first
Scottish immigrants to Pictou, Nova Scotia.
Chris
Title: Re: Macintosh, Mackenzie, Murray genealogy
Post by: Skoosh on Monday 25 March 13 21:52 GMT (UK)
Some Rogart stuff folks,     http://www.countysutherland.co.uk/16.html

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Macintosh, Mackenzie, Murray genealogy
Post by: Chrisvp on Monday 25 March 13 23:38 GMT (UK)
Thanks Skoosh,
I have run across this site and have found it helpfull, but no hard links as of yet. In reviewing
my Macintosh genealogy I have found a brother or cousin of Donald MacIntosh, his name is
Charles Macintosh . He is listed as born in Dornoch 1823 and settling in Pictou Co. Nova Scotia
And married to a Elizabeth Murray. Both Donald and Charles wives, who I believe are sisters were
Born in Nova Scotia. Hopefully I can make a breakthrough soon.
Regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Macintosh, Mackenzie, Murray genealogy
Post by: Chrisvp on Wednesday 27 March 13 20:44 GMT (UK)
An Educated Guess.

Since I can only find one Donald MacIntosh born in Dornoch in 1821 and until more records are
transcribed, I think that the best bet for his parents are Donald MacIntosh and Rachel Murray.
Please be advised that I use Mc,Mac,Mack for my lineage, I have found in many of my family records these were all used. The family in Nova Scotia goes by MacIntosh now.

I conjecture that when Rogart was cleared the MacIntosh family was relocated to Dornoch where
my Donald Macintosh was born according to family records. My MacKenzie family was also from
Dornoch and arrived in Pictou Nova Scotia in 1834. I am going to make the assumption that my MacIntosh side arrived between 1841 and 1847 because my Great great Grandfather Findlay Macintosh was born in Pictou in 1849. I am also relying heavily on the 1841 census with Donald being shown there born on 1821 if it is another Donald, I am completely wrong!
The family of Donald MacIntosh and Rachel Murray:

Donald McIntosh/MackIntosh 1766-? On the 1841 census living in Dornoch
Rachel Murray 1781-?

Their children:
John 1798 Rogart
Patrick 1800 Rogart
Hugh 1804 Rogart
Jane 1806 Rogart
Rachel 1809 Rogart
Andrew 1813 Rogart
Margaret 1817 Rogart
Euphemia 1819 Rogart
Donald 1821 Dornoch died 1895 Nova Scotia

Donald MacIntosh and Christy Murray's children:

Robertina 1848 NS
Findlay 1849 NS
William 1853 NS
John 1856 NS

If any of you experienced genealogists could give me an opinion on my suppositions, it would be much appreciated.


Title: Re: Macintosh, Mackenzie, Murray genealogy
Post by: Chrisvp on Saturday 30 March 13 17:05 GMT (UK)
I have found 2 more children of Donald Mc,Mac,Mack, Intosh and Rachel Murray. Both children
Born in Rogart:
 
Robert 1811
William 1815

It looks like my GGG grandfather Donald(1821) named his children Robertina,  William and John
After his older brothers just have to find a Findlay now. This is the most logical conclusion I can
Make unless I am following the wrong path :o which I have done before.