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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Midlothian => Topic started by: sandir03 on Wednesday 20 March 13 06:34 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I’m trying to find some information on the Elder family.
What I have so far :
1. Andrew Elder b. about 1896, aged 31 years when married Evelyn Morrison b. 20/10/1902, aged 24 years, in Edinburgh on 19/08/1927. They had one child in Edinburgh, before Evelyn died on 04/08/1930 in Edinburgh. This child is still alive, so details removed by moderator in line with Rootschat policy of not discussing living relatives.
2. At the time of his marriage to Evelyn, Andrew was living at Sunny Bank Cottage, Lower London Road, Edinburgh.
3. From their marriage record, the father of Andrew is George Elder, a cooper, and the mother is possibly a “Janet Smith” – hard to decipher the faded writing.
4. George may have had a brother James and a sister Mary.
5. The town name Prestonpans, east of Edinburgh may be a link.
6. After Evelyn died, Andrew went on to marry a Mary Wanless and had a son. Later he married an Isabella surname unknown. Andrew Snr died about 1976.
Is the someone who may be able to help me with any information about Andrew Elder and his family/his mother’s family – parents, grandparents, etc?
Thanking you in advance.
Sandi
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Hi Sandi ,
Scotlandspeople has a marriage George Elder / Janet Smith 1895 Dalkeith Midlothian
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Andrew Elder b.24/6/1896, at Wardlaws Close, Dalkeith, Midlothianson of George Elder, Journeyman Cooper and Janet formerly Smith.
George Elder, Cooper 28 married Janet Smith 20 20/12/1895 The Manse, Dalkeith - George's parents George Elder, Cooper and Mary formerly Muirhead. Janet's parents William Smith, Soft Goods Hawker (deceased) and Janet formerly Stewart (deceased). Witnesses were Maggie Dow and Elizabeth Gray.
Annette
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I only have access to transcripts of Scottish Census - can't find George 1891 or 1901 but in 1881:
8 Prospect Terrace, St. Andrews, Edinburgh
George Elder 41 Cooper b. Burntisland, Fife
Mary Elder 38 b. Falkirk, Stirling
William Elder 17 ditto
John Elder 15 b. St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh
George Elder 13 ditto
James Elder 6 b. Falkirk, Stirling
Alexander Elder 3 ditto
Annette
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Hi Annette :)
From what you have found this looks a likely marriage -
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYW3-H3X
ev
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Yes, that seems to be the one.
Familysearch also shows George's baptism:
George Elder b.11/9/1839, bp.22/9/1839 Burntisland, Fife, son of William Elder and Margaret Blyth.
Annette
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Looking at SP there is a death for Janet Elder(other surname Smith) 1946 Midlothian , born c1872
Wonder if this is Janet ?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQSS-8FF
1881 Amos Close Dalkeith Edinburgh
William Smith 40 hawker b. Ireland
Janet Smith 39 wife b. Newbattle Edinburgh
Janet Smith 9 daur b. Dalkeith Edinburgh
Margaret Smith 4 daur b. Dalkeith Edinburgh
William Smith 11m b. Dalkeith Edinburgh
Marriage ?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYMS-5PD
Birth ?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTT6-568
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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XY9F-Q4M
1851 Newbattle Midlothian
James Stewart 60 labourer b. Cranston Midlothian
Beatrice Stewart 47 wife b. Channelkirk Berwickshire
Ann Stewart 15 dau b. Edinburgh
James Stewart 13 son b. Edinburgh
Janet Stewart 9 dau b. Cockpen Midlothian
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Thanks so much everyone for your contributions re the ELDER family.
It now gives me lots of information that I can pass onto the living relative of Andrew Elder and Evelyn (nee Morrison).
Much appreciated.
Sandi
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P.S. If any further information on the Elder family is found - that would be great.
Thanks,
Sandi
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Hi Sandi
I have been doing some family research on this family for my cousin. Maybe I can be of help to you.
I have today received Andrew Elder 1896 death certificate from 1969. Evelyn Morrison was my Mother's sister. Wish I'd seen your message before but not been on for a while.
Kind regards
Karen Walker
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I have information on the elder family
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Hello charlie07,
Welcome to RootsChat.
The original poster has been notified of your post and was only online yesterday, hopefully they will reply to your post very soon.
Regards
Sarah
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Hello charlie07,
Would love to find out what information you have on this Elder family. Please contact me.
Kindest regards,
Sandi
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Hi Sandi. I am Andrew Elder daughter.
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Hi
I have been working on the Elder tree for a few years now for my cousin Agnes. Her father was Andrew Elder senior and her mother Evelyn Morrison.
After Evelyns death Andrew married Mary Wanless. If we have the same Andrew please get in touch.
Thanks
Karen
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Hi Karen yes my Grandmother was Mary Wanless and my Grandfather was Andrew Elder.
Is Agnes still alive ? My dad has spoken about a sister who moved to Austrialia is this Agnes or relatives?
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Hi charlie07,
Thanks for your reply. I know Karen (a step-in-law relative, though we have never met) and we correspond regularly. I also know Agnes (Karen's cousin and your Grandfather's step-sister) very well and we keep in touch, in fact she phoned me yesterday afternoon and we had a catch-up chat. She will be turning 89 next month. And yes, both Agnes and I are in Australia - different States though.
My 'relationship' with Agnes is really through my in-law side of the family - all from Scotland. My late mother-in-law's (Rebecca MacAndrew - 1st husband John Ritchie) second husband was Leonard Montgomery Stark who was previously married to Isabella Naismith Morrison (5th born of the 7 Morrison girls). She was sister to Evelyn Morrison who was married to Andrew Elder - your Grandfather. I know, it's all very confusing!!
Sandi