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I'm looking for descendants of Roy Pomeroy, Film Director, born in Darjeeling India, 1892 and died Los Angeles, California 1947. He married Sylvia in 1922.
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Hi jaybeedee
He may have married Sylvia in 1922 www.searchdictionaries.com/?q=Roy+Pomeroy+%28film+director%29 but he showed with Elizabeth in 1940 in LA:
Roy J Pomeroy 47 Inventor Technician, b. India
Elizabeth Pomeroy 46 wife b. Kentucky
How are you connected to his line?
Monica :)
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I don't think there were any children from his marriage to Sylvia either. From 1930 in LA:
Roy J Pomeroy 36 Director, motion pictures b. India
Sylvia J Pomeroy 36 b. Kentucky
Gregorio Lima 37 servant b. Phillipines
A good overview on his life here www.rootschat.com/links/0t84/
Monica
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Thanks Monica,
I didn't know about the second wife.
My interest lies with his elder brother, Arthur William Jobbins Pomeroy, also born in India in 1891. Their father was W.H. Jobbins who worked in Calcutta and died between 1894 and 1896, no record can be found. Their mother was Jeanette Shephard Jobbins. I have marriage data and birth records. However, sometime between Jobbins's death and 1906 Jeanette married a Pomeroy. where or when I don't know, and the 2 boya adopted the name Jobbins-Pomeroy, later dropping the Jobbins to an initial J.
Need to know who this Pomeroy was, I believe an American national. I was hoping that some descendent of Roy might be able to fill the gap.
Arthur married a Katherine Pethick in England on 15 Dec 1919. They went to Ghana and later to Jamaica where they had 2 children and Arthur died in 1956. see Pethick thread.
John
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Unfortunately, don't think Roy had any descendants :-\
Monica
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Considering that both Sylvia & the wife mentioned in 1940 were both born circa 1894 and in Kentucky, I think Sylvia & Elizabeth may be one in the same. The California death index (available at www.familysearch.org) has entries for Sylvia Pomeroy and Elizabet Pomeroy who have the same birth & death dates, so maybe one was a birth name and the other a middle name or nickname.
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Ohhh, good find ;)
Monica
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http://americanpomeroys.blogspot.com/2013/02/roy-jobbins-pomeroy-oscar-winner-and.html This seems to indicate that Pomeroy was originally a middle name & Roy's stepfather was named James Bernard Scale.
However, I found a passenger list for Roy from 1908 that lists his mother as Mrs. J. Pomeroy, 50 Grove End Rd., London. ???
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Given the information that shellyeaq found there is a Jennette Shephard Jobbins marrying a James Bernard Scale 1895 Marylebone London Oct/Dec quarter.
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Given the information that shellyeaq found there is a Jennette Shephard Jobbins marrying a James Bernard Scale 1895 Marylebone London Oct/Dec quarter.
Marriage, St Marylebone Parish Church
30 Oct 1895
James Bernard Scalé 29 Bachelor Upholsterer of 27 De Crespigny Park, Denmark Hill. Father James Scalé, Upholsterer.
Jeannette Shepherd Jobbins 33 Widow of 23 Henrietta St, St Marylebone. Father Isaiah Lebarre Hanser, Gentleman.
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James Bernard Scale is in the 1901 Census in London with stepsons Arthur W.J. Scale, age 9, and Amos P.J. Scale, age 7. Both boys were born India, so these seem to fit Arthur & Roy Pomeroy.
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It looks as though James Bernard Scale may have remarried to an Annie Lowndes in Christchurch, Hants in Jun qtr 1914 and died in Bournemouth in 1923 with Annie Scale, widow, as his executor.
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Thanks to everyone who has contributed to the above.
Please shellyesq can you give the details of the passenger list for Roy 1908. Ship, departure & arrival dates and ports. Can you tell whether he was accompanied by brother Arthur. A link that I could follow would suffice.
Here is the story as I deduce it from the above and other info. And its quite a story!
Roy born in Darjeeling, India as Amos, father William Jobbins, colonial civil servant, mother Jeanette Shepherd nee Hauser or Hanser. Father invalided back to Britain but dies at sea in 1896. However, mother Jeanette Jobbins marries James B. Scalé Oct. 1895 (before Jobbin dies - divorced?). Sometime before 1895 Jeanette and 2 boys must have traveled to England.
Roy (as Amos) and brother Arthur staying with James Scalé (as Scalé) in 1901 census. 1906 Arthur enrolled Clifton College as Arthur Pomeroy, mother Jeanette Pomeroy - leaves Clifton in 1907.
Roy sails to USA (presumably) using name Pomeroy same as his mother, uses name Roy Pomeroy thereafter.
Therefore sometime between 1901 and 1906, Jeanette and the 2 boys assume the name Pomeroy (possibly the name of an ancestor). Therefore the Pomeroy that I was originally looking for never existed!
If James B Scalé remarried, then presumably Jeanette divorced him before 1914.
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Going by the baptism of Amos, it looks as though the name Pomeroy was in the mix early on:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGWB-YD6
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Index transcription of the Jobbins marriage record here:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGNG-MG3
You may already have Arthur's baptism:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGWB-YDZ
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I see from FIBIS' transcription of the Times of India's announcement of the Jobbins marriage in 1889 that Jeannette Shepherd Hauser's father was a clergyman, of Bareilly.
A digitised extract from the Indian Missionary Directory has this:
Isaiah L. Hauser. B in 1836, in U. S. A.
E. at Appleton, Wis.
A. in 1861. S- Bijnour, 1861-66: then at Shahjehanpore. Translated
the Methodist Discipline into Urdu. R. to America in 1867. Is editor
and proprietor of a weekly journal, the Christian Statesman. Ad. Mil-
icauhec, Wis. U. S. A.
http://tinyurl.com/cjycqre
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See also this link for a catalogue listing of papers of Isaiah Hauser (1834-1909), and his wife, Jeanette Gallagher Shepherd Hauser (1840-1923), Methodist Episcopal missionaries to India, and of their children Miriam Hauser Rosser, Arthur T. Hauser, and Jeanette Hauser Jobbins:
http://tinyurl.com/c5pr8oa (scroll to page 4)
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Here are the Hausers in Evanston, Illinois in 1880:
I. L. HAUSER White Male Mar 43 Editor Born Penn, both parents born Penn
Jennette do White Female Wife Mar 39 Born Illinois, father NY mother Ohio
Jennette do White Female Daur 18 At School. Born India, father Penn mother Illinois
Reginald do White Male Son 13 At School. Born India, father Penn mother Illinois
Arthur do White Male Son 12 At School. Born Wisconsin, father Penn mother Illinois
Miriam do White Female Daur 4. Born Wisconsin, father Penn mother Illinois.
The youngest child, Miriam, seems to have had Pomeroy as a middle name:
http://tinyurl.com/dxhqwe9
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Arthur T Hauser, bank clerk, died aged 21 in Cook County, Illinois on 2 Dec 1889 and was buried at Rose Hill Cemetery.
Jennette (senior) appears in Delaware with Miriam in the 1900 US census, enumerated as having had 8 children of whom only 2 are still living.
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Submitted tree here (unsourced so approach with caution):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/MC69-KP8
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Roy's 1908 passenger list is here (Roy was mistranscribed as Kay) - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JXGL-NWT If you click on the link to go to the Ellis Island site, you can see the image of the passenger list for free with registration. The place he was going to was on the second page. His brother was not with him, although there is a 1916 passenger list for Arthur Jobbins-Pomeroy.
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Arthur's 1916 passenger list has him going to join his mother in Ohio.
It looks like Jeanette travelled to the US at least twice during that time frame:
1911 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JJKC-CZ2
1919 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J6QQ-YPX
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http://americanpomeroys.blogspot.com/2013/02/roy-jobbins-pomeroy-oscar-winner-and.html This seems to indicate that Pomeroy was originally a middle name & Roy's stepfather was named James Bernard Scale.
However, I found a passenger list for Roy from 1908 that lists his mother as Mrs. J. Pomeroy, 50 Grove End Rd., London. ???
I am the author of this article. I work for the American Pomeroy Historic Genealogical Association. My co-researcher and I have put together a large file on Roy. There is a part two to this story which will be posted soon. It explains much more about Roy and why they used the name "Pomeroy". His Mother, Jeannette Shepard Hauser, was not married to a Pomeroy. Pomeroy was a family name that she used to start a business. She was known as "Mrs. Pomeroy" for her business, perhaps because she liked the sound of the name. She was also proud of her lineage-she was a descendent of General Seth Pomeroy, the American Revolutionary War hero. Amos Pomeroy Jobbins, her son with William Henry Jobbins, later went by Roy Pomeroy. His father died when he was very young, and he perhaps felt little connection to the name Jobbins, nor did he feel a connection to the name Scale, which was the last name of his step-father, to whom his mother was only married for a short time. There is more background on all of this in the article!
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Hi jaybeedee
He may have married Sylvia in 1922 www.searchdictionaries.com/?q=Roy+Pomeroy+%28film+director%29 but he showed with Elizabeth in 1940 in LA:
Roy J Pomeroy 47 Inventor Technician, b. India
Elizabeth Pomeroy 46 wife b. Kentucky
How are you connected to his line?
Monica :)
Sylvia Jewell was the stage name for Elizabeth Whittaker. Sylvia was an actress. She was born 11 March 1894 in Paris, Bourbon County, Kentucky to C G Whittaker and Sarah Newman. She moved to New York to pursue an acting career, and that is where she met Roy Pomeroy, who had moved to the city to pursue the scenic arts. They both lived in the same neighborhood, and probably ran in the same circles. They were married in 1922 in Los Angeles, CA. Roy had no other wife. She was listed on his death certificate as his spouse.
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Hi KateJean
Thanks for the above info. I have read your blog on Roy Pomeroy and cannot wait for the next installment.
My friends and I have amassed a pretty complete portfolio of the life of Roy's elder brother, Arthur William Jobbins-Pomeroy who's life was equally varied. Here is a snippet of info that you might like to add to the Roy story.
Roy's father, William Jobbins, was invalided back to England in 1895, but died at sea before the ship reached Suez. http://www.findmypast.co.uk/records/overseas/details/D/3179008?pf=1.
Presumably Jeanette and the 2 boys were on the same ship, but we cannot confirm this.
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I am a relative of the Pomeroy family in Jamaica. I am a daughter of Major Arthur William Pomeroy.
I would love to get more information on his other daughters. One of them owned Pats Flower Shop and has since died. However I do not know of the other sister, if she is still alive.
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If you are still persuing this story I would like more information. I live in Jupiter Florida.
Message posted on behalf of Margo who had sent me the post in error.
jaybee has been notified of your reply by email :)
Regards
Sarah
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According to an online biography of Pomeroy Cosmetics, Roy's mother, Jeanette Shepherd Hauser, changed hers and her children's name from Scale to Pomeroy in about 1906 after separating from James Bernard Scale. She died in 1938 in Dartford, no actual date could be located.