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Title: John Jones, Caeglas, Llandwrog (or Llanwnda)
Post by: pipscwic on Thursday 28 March 13 23:02 GMT (UK)
Went to the churchyard at Llanwnda at the beginning of the week hoping to find my gggrandparents grave.
Not a profitable exercise due to the cold and the size of the churchyard.
Now I am wondering if anyone who has access to the MIs would be willing to look it up for me.
John and Elizabeth Jones, Talysarn, formerly of Caeglas.  John died around 1896. I was hoping that I could find out when Elizabeth died from the headstone.
Thanks
Pip
Title: Re: John Jones, Caeglas, Llandwrog (or Llanwnda)
Post by: EmyrBorth on Wednesday 03 April 13 23:24 BST (UK)
Hi,
Had a look at Llanwnda Parish Burial Register at Caernarfon Archives today. Latest one they've got ends 03/03/1896. No John or Elizabeth in 1896. Probably the one after that is still in use. Didn't have time to look at MIs - had a bus to catch !  What reason have you to believe that the burials were at Llanwnda Parish Church cemetery ? Talysarn is in the Parish of Llanllyfni, so they could have been buried in any of a number of cemeteries in that Parish, or ones in cemeteries within the Parish of Llandwrog, which lies between the two.
Further info required to be able to help you.
Emyr
 
Title: Re: John Jones, Caeglas, Llandwrog (or Llanwnda)
Post by: Tall Al on Thursday 04 April 13 08:52 BST (UK)
Hi,

I have Gwynedd Family History Society's Booklet with a list of burials for Salem Chapel, Llanllyfni and there are "possible" entries which could be your John and Elizabeth.

Can you please give their dates of birth and I will look again at the booklet.

Alan
Title: Re: John Jones, Caeglas, Llandwrog (or Llanwnda)
Post by: pipscwic on Thursday 04 April 13 13:01 BST (UK)
 Since my previous posting  I have found John Jones' obituary in "Gwyliedydd"  30 Nov 1898. It  states that he died on 18 Nov and was buried in the Church Cemetry, Llanwnda. ( Claddwyd ym mynwent yr Eglwys, Llanwnda)
From censuses they appear to have left Caeglas in the 1880's.
Their son named his house Caeglas and the name has followed  the family as an unofficial surname!!!
Diolch

Title: Re: John Jones, Caeglas, Llandwrog (or Llanwnda)
Post by: EmyrBorth on Thursday 04 April 13 13:25 BST (UK)
Hi
Going to the Archives this afternoon. Will check GFHS MIs booklet for Llanwnda.
Emyr
Title: Re: John Jones, Caeglas, Llandwrog (or Llanwnda)
Post by: EmyrBorth on Thursday 04 April 13 22:08 BST (UK)
Hi
GFHS MIs M236 , Llanwnda, St Gwyndaf, Dinas:
 D076  "Er parchus gof am John Jones, Taleryr, Talysarn (gynt o Caeglas, Llanwnda) yr hwn a fu farw Tachwedd 18 1898 yn 65 mlwydd oed. Hefyd ei briod Elizabeth Jones yr hon a fu farw Hydref 6  1913 yn 73 mlwydd oed."
Basic translation:
In respectful memory of John Jones, Taleryr, Talysarn (formerly of Caeglas, Llanwnda) who died November 18 1898 aged 65 years. Also his spouse Elizabeth Jones who died October 6  1913 aged 73 years.
Have noted the section of the graveyard where the grave is, but not exact location. Will call at the cemetery in the next week or so.
Emyr
Title: Re: John Jones, Caeglas, Llandwrog (or Llanwnda)
Post by: pipscwic on Thursday 04 April 13 23:15 BST (UK)
Thank you very much, diolch yn fawr iawn.
Pip
Title: Re: John Jones, Caeglas, Llandwrog (or Llanwnda)
Post by: EmyrBorth on Monday 08 April 13 00:44 BST (UK)
Hi
Visited cemetery - located grave - further info by PM. Another grave nearby, Owen Jones, Caeglas, died 31/07/1856, aged 54 and his wife Ellin Jones, died 29/08/1851, aged 45.
Emyr
Title: Re: John Jones, Caeglas, Llandwrog (or Llanwnda)
Post by: Pens on Tuesday 09 October 18 19:39 BST (UK)
Emyr - diolch am y wybodaeth yma ,o ddefnydd i mi hefyd. Owen Jones is also my ggg Grandfather, so will call at the cemetery next time I'm up in Llanwnda. Diolch yn fawr i ti.
Emlyn
Title: Re: John Jones, Caeglas, Llandwrog (or Llanwnda)
Post by: pipscwic on Tuesday 09 October 18 19:50 BST (UK)
Mae hynna yn deud ein bod yn perthyn o bell !
Wedi bod yn tyrchu ar ol Owen a Elin ond heb gael lwc.
Hwyl
Title: Re: John Jones, Caeglas, Llandwrog (or Llanwnda)
Post by: Pens on Wednesday 10 October 18 17:24 BST (UK)
Yr unig beth am Owen ac Elin sydd gen i ydy Census 1841 a 51 yn Caeglas.Yn 1861 John y mab oedd yn byw yno ynde.Fe mherthynas i ydy i Ann chwaer John, a briododd fy fy hen, hen daid John Hughes.Dwi'n byw yn y De bellach ond yn dod i fyny weithiau pan fydd gen i hiraeth!Gyda llaw ti'n gwybod lle oedd Caeglas , yn Dinas?
Title: Re: John Jones, Caeglas, Llandwrog (or Llanwnda)
Post by: EmyrBorth on Wednesday 10 October 18 20:42 BST (UK)
Hi
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=246050&y=357650&z=0&sv=sh460576&st=5&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=53.0931&lon=-4.3004&layers=6&right=BingHyb

Emyr
Title: Re: John Jones, Caeglas, Llandwrog (or Llanwnda)
Post by: EmyrBorth on Wednesday 10 October 18 20:48 BST (UK)
Hi
 Efo Streetmap rhaid newid i graddfa 1:25000 i weld yr enw.
With Streetmap you have to zoom to scale 1:25000 to see the name.
 Emyr

Title: Re: John Jones, Caeglas, Llandwrog (or Llanwnda)
Post by: Pens on Wednesday 10 October 18 21:14 BST (UK)
Diolch Emyr
Title: Re: John Jones, Caeglas, Llandwrog (or Llanwnda)
Post by: whdsn on Saturday 29 October 22 11:50 BST (UK)
Hi there is a Ellen jones buried in Llanwnda who died in January 1913 aged 88yrs, is there any information on Her