RootsChat.Com
Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Aberdeenshire => Topic started by: Johnner Kid on Friday 29 March 13 18:25 GMT (UK)
-
My grandfather’s marriage and death certificates gave me the SCOTT & OGSTON names.
Isabella SCOTTs death cert lead me to look for CADGER.
Who was his mother?
See snips below.
-
His mother appears to be Isabella SCOTT, daughter of Isabella CADGER who married William OGSTONE....... if the certificates are at least correct in that part, it seems Isabella (SCOTT) and later her son, both used surnames of their fathers - event though both were, each in their turn, illigitimately born.
Alexander PITTENDREIGH - b abt 1848/49
His marriage certificate seems to quite clearly indicate his parents, Alexander PITTENDREIGH & Isabella SCOTT were not married (to each other). Yet he has used his father's surname.
Alexander's death certificate, may be mis-informed that his mother was married PITTENDREIGH ms OGSTON or that his parents were married at all. The inormation seems to be a cobbling of a few separate part truths. Perhaps the informant partially mixed up his mother and his maternal grandmother, or was simply under the false impression that what he/she informed was correct.
It seems that Isabella SCOTT's death certificate is mostly correctly informed - does it say her mother is "CADGER or OGSTON" or does it say "ms OGSTON"? (I can't quite make it out). It appears she also used her father's surname even though her mother was unmarried at the time she was born. The Census seems to indicate, William OGSTON was her stepfather, and CADGER was her mother's (probable) maiden name (probable, because her mother is shown with the CADGER surname in 1841). Wonder who the GORDON laddie is though....
http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
1841: Whitewell, Tyrie, Aberdeenshire
William OGSTONE 60,
Isabel CADGER 33,
Isabel SCOTT 13,
James GORDON 12,
William OGSTONE 6,
John OGSTONE 3,
Elizabeth OGSTONE 8 mths,
Elizabeth FRASER 53, Female Servant,
ALL Born Aberdeenshire
http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
1851: Whytewell, Tyrie, Aberdeenshire
Head: William OGSTON 80, Crofter& Butcher, b Tyrie
Wife: Isabella OGSTON 45, b Fraserburgh
DauLaw: Isabella SCOTT 21, Farm Servant, b Strichen, Aberdeenshire
Dau: Elizabeth OGSTON 10, b Tyrie
Son: Robert OGSTON 8, b Tyrie
Dau: Joan OGSTON 4, b Tyrie
Son: Charles OGSTON 3, b Tyrie
Dau; Barbara OGSTON 6, b Tyrie
1861: Milltown Boyndlie, Tyrie - in Household of William FOWLIE, Parochioal Schoolamster & Farmer 50 acres
Servant: Charles OGSTON 12, Cattle Boy, b Tyrie
Servant: Alexander PETTERBRIGH??, 9, b Tyrie
1871: Alexander PITINDREICH 20, b Tyrie
Farm Servant at Mains Of Auchnagatt, New Deer (Savoch)
BIRTHS IGI: At Tyrie, to parents: William OGSTON & Isabella CADGER
William OGSTON b 19 Jun 1834
John OGSTON b 7 May 1838
Elizabeth OGSTON b 13 Oct 1840
Robert OGSTON b 13 Jan 1842
Barbara OGSTON b 13 Mar 1843
Joanna OGSTON b 18 Dec 1845
Charles OGSTON b 2 Nov 1848
Cheers
AMBLY
-
This looks like Alexander's mother from 1861 to 1891 (and his grandmother in 1861/71):
1861: Poor House, Low Street, Fraserburgh, (New Pitsligo)
Head: Wd OGSTON* 56, Pauper Domestic Servant, b Fraserburgh
Dau: Isabella SCOTT 31, Pauper Domestic Servant, b Strichen, Fraserburgh
Great-Grandchild: Barbara STACER 5, b New Pitsligo, fraserburgh
Grandchild: Isabella CLARK
(*this is a female , Wd = Widow OGSTON)
1871: Poore Lodging House, Tyrie (New Pitsligo)
Head: Isabella OGTON 70, Formly Dom Servt A Pauper, b Fraserburgh
Dau: Isabella SCOTT 36*, Domestic Servant, b Tyrie
Grand-Dau: Barbara OGTON 16, Domestic Servant, b Tyrie
Grand-Son: William HEPBURN 10, Scholar, b Tyrie
Grand-Son: John CLARK 4, b Tyrie
Grand-Dau: Jean SMITH 9mths, b Tyrie
(Clearly the age of 36 is way wrong in this transcript - original should be checked)
(Name could be enumerated as OGTON(E), OPTON(E) or OGSTON(E)
1881: 46 Low Street, Tyrie (New Pitsligo)
Head: Isabella SCOTT 59, …...maker?, b Strichen,
Daughter: Barbara SLESSOR 26, Pauper, b Tyrie
1891: Poors Lodging, Fraser, Tyrie (New Pitsligo)
Isabella SCOTT 66, Pauper, b New Pitsligo
Seems to be is household with:
Ellen PHILLIP 78, Mary MOWAT 80, Mary COWIE 68, Agnes CASSIE 72.
The 1881 Census appears to indicate Barbara SLESSOR (STACER / OGSTON?) birn abt 1855 is Isbella SCOTT's daughter (your Alexander's sister?). If she was born in 1855, would be very interesting to get her BC! In 1901, she is age 45, b Tyrie and a Patient in the Buchan Combination Poorhouse, New Deer.
Cheers
AMBLY
-
Gosh Ambly that is just brilliant. I greatly appreciate you taking time to advance my research so far so quickly. I'll now have to get copies of the original documents and take time to get my head around the new research lines your data has opened up for me.
I think you have saved me from making a major mistake about my pre 1800 research.
Thanks for all your work on my ancestry.
Sy
-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,641507.0.html
The above is a link to another post on this family.
flst
-
It occurred to me, that Alexander in 1851 (well, I think it''s him, as a Farm Servant along with Charles OGSTON) is enumerated as age 9, making him born more like abt 1851/1852. Then in 1861 (again pretty sure it's him), he's 20. And he wasn't in the 1851 Census family listing either.
I would have suggested he didn't know the exact yr he was born - but for the fact of the 1861, where I assume he gave the information on his age! Did he make himself older when he married in 1870, to make himself 'of full age' and a step ahead of his bride, then kept up the pretence from then on?
And I think Isabella CADGER was married before she married OGSTON:
Isabella CADGER & Charles GORDON married 28 May 1829, Strichen.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTJG-C61
It looks to me like she went to the GORDON marriage, with her daughter Isabella (SCOTT) in tow and then had James GORDON (age 12 in 1841) within the marriage.
Cheers
AMBLY
-
It occurred to me, that Alexander in 1851 (well, I think it''s him, as a Farm Servant along with Charles OGSTON) is enumerated as age 9, making him born more like abt 1851/1852. Then in 1861 (again pretty sure it's him), he's 20. And he wasn't in the 1851 Census family listing either.
I would have suggested he didn't know the exact yr he was born - but for the fact of the 1861, where I assume he gave the information on his age! Did he make himself older when he married in 1870, to make himself 'of full age' and a step ahead of his bride, then kept up the pretence from then on?
And I think Isabella CADGER was married before she married OGSTON:
Isabella CADGER & Charles GORDON married 28 May 1829, Strichen.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTJG-C61
It looks to me like she went to the GORDON marriage, with her daughter Isabella (SCOTT) in tow and then had James GORDON (age 12 in 1841) within the marriage.
Cheers
AMBLY
Hello again,
I called your earlier analyses 'brilliant' so I already used up that term.
This summary is so clear and concise that I can easily get my head around it.
Thank you very much once again.
Cheers,
Sy
-
1861: Milltown Boyndlie, Tyrie - in Household of William FOWLIE, Parochioal Schoolamster & Farmer 50 acres
Servant: Charles OGSTON 12, Cattle Boy, b Tyrie
Servant: Alexander PETTERBRIGH??, 9, b Tyrie
1871: Alexander PITINDREICH 20, b Tyrie
Farm Servant at Mains Of Auchnagatt, New Deer (Savoch)
The Freecen transcriber of the 1861 Census got it wrong, snip #01 below clearly reads as PITTINDRIGH which confirms the ages given on the Marriage and Death certs are out by two/three years.
I have another contender for Alexander at age 20, see snips #02 & #03 below.
Thanks for pointing me in this new direction with my research.
-
Hi Sy
(Snip2) On the face of it, the only listed son of Alexander the Farmer in 1871, does look so interesting, doesn't it! Three daughters in the house.... it wouldn't be unheard of for an illigitimate son and heir to be taken into the home of the father (and in this case, if that was the right scenario, father had to have had an adulterous relationship with that son's mother). However, this son of the farmer looks to have taken over the 202 acre family farm and is on it in 1881 - whilst in that same census your Alexander is I believe, in Kincardinshire, an Ag Lab, with his wife Mary MILNE?
(Snip3 is the same one I'd found earlier - which I still think is your man)
In CENSUS 1851 at Nether Glaslay (ie: Glasslaw), Aberdour, Alexander PITTENDRIGH 45, the Snr, Farmer and his wife Margaret CAMPBELL , have in their household - Dau Elizbeth 3 and Son Alexander age 1, b Aberdour, Aberdeenshire.
MARRIAGE: 24 Jan 1846, Aberdour, Aberdeenshire
Alexander PITTENDRIGH & Margaret CAMPBELL
BIRTH: Parents: Alexander PITTENDRIGH & Margaret CAMPBELL
Son: Alexander - 23 May 1849, Aberdour
CENSUS 1881 at Nether Glaslane (Glasslaw?), - the son:
Head: Alexander PITTENDRIGH 31 (b abt 1850) farmer of 202 acres with his wife Margaret age 26.
I suppose, it is entirely possible that farmer Alexander Snr of Aberdour DID have an adulterous relationship with your Alexander's mother, Isabella SCOTT and she resolutely named that child after him - thereby he ended up with two sons with the same name - one legitimate, one not!!
And that possibility - is even more interesting to consider, when you see that in 1851, Farmer Alexander has in his household the following:
Servant: James SCOTT 15, farm Labourer, b Fraserburgh (abt 1836)
Cheers
AMBLY
-
It may interest you to know that an ancestor of mine was a Matron of the Poorslodginghouses in New Pitsligo.She was appointed on February 19th 1892.She got 5 shillings a week,free house & fuel.She resigned from her duties (as from) March 1st 1902. Here are the duties required of the Matron;
Attend, & wash, to infirm residents & those in sickness.
Take in fuel & water to any unable to do so.
Clean blankets on death occurring & put into store.
To take a general interest in the welfare of the inmates.
The new replacement Matron's wages were 6 shillings a week.
I was fortunate to obtain this information from Tyrie Parish Minutes.
flst
-
Gosh Ambly that is just brilliant. I greatly appreciate you taking time to advance my research so far so quickly. I'll now have to get copies of the original documents and take time to get my head around the new research lines your data has opened up for me.
I think you have saved me from making a major mistake about my pre 1800 research.
Thanks for all your work on my ancestry.
Sy
My Post above which refers to Snips #1,2 & 3 previous carried three snips from OPR. Census & SRs Primary Sources. These have been moderated out to comply with forum rules regarding copyright.
Cheers,
Sy
-
This is a revison to message #01 where the first snip was mederated out.
It would have been better if I could have modified the actual messages but I no longer have that option.
Alexander's mother recorded as SCOTT in marriage cert and OGSTON in death cert.
Revised snips follow:
-
Reply 07 & 8 above refer to snips 02 and 03 which were moderated out thus removing the sense of the discussion. These snips have now been modified to comply with copyright limits.
See below:
-
My great grandfather’s marriage and death certificates gave me the SCOTT & OGSTON names.
Isabella SCOTTs death cert lead me to look for CADGER.
Who was his mother?
See snips below.
The death certificate snip referred to above was moderated out because it did not comply with copyright restrictions. Here is the revised snip and hopefully it completes my revisions to this thread.
I still have to solve the question of who was the father of my great grandfather?
-
Hi there,
Really interesting thread...
Had a wee look at the 1841 Census on freecen.
Alexander Pittendrigh - farmer aged 33 seems to have form with his farm servants ;D His future wife Mary Campbell age 24 is listed as a farm servant at his farm Glasslay (Nether) at Aberdour.
Also found an interesting
Andrew Pittendrigh - farmer aged 40 listed with his family at Protsaugh, Tyrie. He has an agricultural labourer James Cadger age 15 in his household.
Wonder if these two farmers are brothers/cousins? And wonder if Isabella Cadger/Scott/Ogston worked for either man?
Looby
-
It may interest you to know that an ancestor of mine was a Matron of the Poorslodginghouses in New Pitsligo.She was appointed on February 19th 1892.She got 5 shillings a week,free house & fuel.She resigned from her duties (as from) March 1st 1902. Here are the duties required of the Matron;
Attend, & wash, to infirm residents & those in sickness.
Take in fuel & water to any unable to do so.
Clean blankets on death occurring & put into store.
To take a general interest in the welfare of the inmates.
The new replacement Matron's wages were 6 shillings a week.
I was fortunate to obtain this information from Tyrie Parish Minutes.
flst
Thanks flst & looby. Interesting stuff.
Having now realised that there are holes in much of my research data gleaned for the period prior to my great grandfathers marriage. A visit to the archives in Edinburgh has to be on the cards for me and soon.
Alexander's illegitimate birth to Isabella will have to be searched for in the Session Minutes.
All my guesses as to his father so far have just been that, guesses. Chances are it is some other Alexander than the one I originally believed to be correct.
Cheers,
Sy
-
It occurred to me, that Alexander in 1851 (well, I think it''s him, as a Farm Servant along with Charles OGSTON) is enumerated as age 9, making him born more like abt 1851/1852. Then in 1861 (again pretty sure it's him), he's 20. And he wasn't in the 1851 Census family listing either.
I would have suggested he didn't know the exact yr he was born - but for the fact of the 1861, where I assume he gave the information on his age! Did he make himself older when he married in 1870, to make himself 'of full age' and a step ahead of his bride, then kept up the pretence from then on?
And I think Isabella CADGER was married before she married OGSTON:
Isabella CADGER & Charles GORDON married 28 May 1829, Strichen.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTJG-C61
It looks to me like she went to the GORDON marriage, with her daughter Isabella (SCOTT) in tow and then had James GORDON (age 12 in 1841) within the marriage.
Cheers
AMBLY
Sorry that I haven't logged on in a while. AMBLY you are spot on with your analysis of Isabella's marriage to Charles Gordon and subsequent birth of James. I am directly descended from Charles Gordon (gx3 Grandfather) and Isabella Cadger. Charles married Isabella at Strichen 28th May 1829 and James was born that same year. Presumably prior to marrying Ogston Charles Gordon died, although I haven't found a death record. As you pointed out James is seen in the subsequent census. He later moved down with most of his family to Dundee to work in the Jute Mills.
On GenesReunited sometime ago I exchanged details with a lady who was descended from Charles OGSTON and Isabella. She has done tonnes of research into her family tree. Unfortunately as it goes in genealogy wasn't too interested in the Gordons and I wasn't too interested in the OGSTON's. If you need any more info please get back to me as I have her details and access to her family tree.
Regards
James Gordon
-
AMBLY wrote
It looks to me like she went to the GORDON marriage, with her daughter Isabella (SCOTT) in tow and then had James GORDON (age 12 in 1841) within the marriage.
JMG1893 wrote
...... AMBLY you are spot on with your analysis of Isabella's marriage to Charles Gordon and subsequent birth of James. I am directly descended from Charles Gordon (gx3 Grandfather) and Isabella Cadger. Charles married Isabella at Strichen 28th May 1829 and James was born that same year. Presumably prior to marrying Ogston Charles Gordon died, although I haven't found a death record.
/quote]
AMBLY was assisting me in my research.
I'm interested in the birth details of Alexander PITTENDREIGH whose mother is recorded as Isabella OGSTON or SCOTT who now appears to be the daughter of the Isabella CADGER who married your Charles GORDON in 1829.
I'm still very interested in identifying the PITTENDREIGH father of my great grandfather Alexander.
Can anyone assist me further to unravel this tangle of relationships
Cheers,
Sy
-
Alexander Pittendreigh and Isabella Scott are in my family line also. Via Alexander and his wife Mary Milne. On a note of interest in 1841 at Bodychelle just outside of Fraserburgh very close to me, Has record of a Alexander Ogston and his wife Isabella living there also in in 1823 a Robert Pittendreigh died there, probably the same Robert that was born in 1741 at Logie Buchan. his son John born in Pitsligo in 1767 married Ann Prott, this is the Udny line that my mother in law said her Pittendreigh line came from, via William Pittendreigh and Helen Catto. James Roberts yongest son married an Elizabeth Catto.
I have seen a number of people liniking this line of Alexander Pittendreigh into Christian Hird. Whic from all my research looks to be completely wrong. Again from family information that all my mother in laws ancestors were farm workers. Any thoughts?
I have seen somewhere that Isabella Scott died in Fraserburgh in 1899.
-
Hi Jed,
Thanks for that. I had left this thread for a while and was pushing more on the brick walls of my Maternal line. You have now prompted me to take it up again.
I agree with you, the Christian HIRD link is a false trail, I spent a bit of time on it and actually upset another PITTENDREIGH researcher for even entertaining it in on my Genes Reunited tree.
Can't remember if I removed it yet, must check!
Cheers,
Sy
-
Hi,
Called the registrar office here in Fraserburgh yesterday and she checked for both Isabellas being buried at the Fraserburgh Kirk yard, there is no record.
I am still hunting, but in the 1841 Census for Pitsligo, Bodychelle there are the following there. Page 13 or folio 3 civial parish of Pitsligo Address BODYCHELLE
Black Barbara F 80 Aberdeenshire
Ogston Ann 45 "
Same page same yr
Pittendrigh Alexander 60 farmer Aberdeenshire
" Mary 55 "
" John 25 no occupation listed Aberdeenshire
" Robert 20
" May 20
" Mary 20 (Possibly triplets)
" Jane 15
" Elizabeth 15
ON SAYING TRIPLETS. it may be that the writer has rounded up to the nearest yr ending in 5 or 0 this happened that census
Next list is listed under the same family of Pittendrigh
Gillan Isabel 15 Female servant Aberdeenshire
Murray david 20 Male servant born over seas
Cumming Andw. 15 Male servant Aberdeenshire
Bruce Alexr. 12 Male servant Aberdeenshire.
same page, same address Bodychelle
Scott Jane 75 Pauper Aberdeenshire
Farquhar Ann 50 Aberdeenshire
" Isabel 35 "
Greig John 10
Unknown male Aberdeenshire
Unknown male Aberdeenshire.
same folio page 14 address PARK
Cadger Charles 25 Ag Lab Aberdeenshire
" Elizabeth 30
" Charles 8
" Elizabeth 6
" Isabella 4
" William 2
" Anne 1 m
Scott Anne 71 Female servant Aberdeenshire.
Next Census find was in parish of Tyrie Folio 1 pg 5
Ogstone William 60
Cadger Isabel not Isabella 33
Scott Isabel 13
Gordon James 12
Ogstone William 6
Ogstone John 3
Ogstone Elizabeth 8m
Fraser Elizabeth 53 Female servant
all born Aberdeenshire.
Both Pitsligo and Tyrie Parish are side by side.
The Kirk yard of Peathill has the following info.
Stone 388
Isabella stephen 12 Nov 1820
Robert Pittendrigh 28 jul 1823 this Robert Lived at Bodychelle
James " 29 Mar 1839
Elizabeth Catto 5 May 1850
Isabella Pittendrigh 11 Mar 1865
Jane " 11 Sept 1870
ALEXANDER " 12 Mar 1872
MARGARET CAMPBELL 18 May 1874
Jane Pittendrigh 18 Oct 1874
Alexander " 5 Nov 1877.
STONE 387
Mary Robertson 13 Mar 1819
Isabella Pittendrigh 2 Nov 1842
Janet " 28 Jan 1855
Robert " 24 Aug 1872
ALEXANDER " 29 Jul 1878
ALEXANDER " 8 Ap 1924.
Joyce
-
Johnner
How are you related? We are via Isabella Pittendreigh the daughter of Alexander to Mary Milne. would this be your connection?
Joyce
-
Alexander and Mary were my Great-grandfather and Great-grandmother.
My Grandfather was their son James PITTENDREIGH who married Maggie (Margaret) GARDINER
I have replied to your PM.
Scroll back to reply 11 and you will see some clips of Certificates relating to Alexander and the OGSTON/SCOTT issue.
I'll study your data above and see what matches with mine and get back to you later in the week.
Cheers,
Sy
(Sandy)
-
Hi
Your James and our Isabella were brother and sister. My daughters grandmother would be your cousin.
-
I sent you some photos and a chart but it may have been after you changed your e-mail.
Did you get them?
Here is one of them of the farm at Lumgair in Dunnottar Parish, formerly know as Kincardineshire before it was 'absorbed' into Aberdeenshire.
It shows from left to right; my great grandmother Mary MILNE, my grandfather James PITTENDREIGH, young women, name not known, my grandmother Margaret (aka Maggie) EMSLIE and my great grandfather Alexander (aka Sandy) PITTENDREIGH.
-
Hi
No I did not get anything through. Have you had a chance to look at the Bodychelle link?
-
I realise this is an old thread. However this family here is also my family. Isabella scott was my x3 great grandmothers half sister joan ogston she was married to james anderson and had twins in 1881 mary fraser and barbara. I am interested to learn more as im now at a brick wall and cant seem to move further back. Who is isabella scotts father and grandparents?
-
I have narrowed it down and have gone with the following, Joseph Cadger and Ann Scott, as her parents It is the only line that seems to fit for now, Josephs parents are James Cadger and Isabella/Isabel Beedy, Anns are John Scott and Isabel Walker, The Cadger line hales from Strichen/ Memsie which is just 10 mins by car from me, I have found them at a place called Bodychelle, it was a farm with 3 or 4 properties on it and the Pittendreighs lived there also.
Hope this helps,
-
oh my gosh how did you do that? I have sat for days trying to find them and I eventually did before seeing this post. that is amazing information. was bodychelle a big farm?
thank you so much for this help it has helped me greatly.
Isabella had a grand daughter Mary she married John Rollo in 1900. however I cant find out much about her either I found her death in 1969 but nothing else. not even in the 1911 census which I find strange would there be a reason for this?
-
(*)
(*) Moderator Comment: e-mail removed in accordance with RootsChat policy,
to avoid spamming and other abuses.
Please use the Personal Message (PM) system for exchanging personal data.
I narrowed it down by looking at census and mothers maiden names, In Scotland it is custom to add the mothers maiden name to the childs name, as a middle name, Also back then many farming people
.had the first child out of marriage. There are 2 Isabella's born in a five yr period not far apart.
Isabella Cadger Ogston was also married to a Gordon.I am still looking at this one, trying to confirm this. my email is * if you would like to contact me via that,
I have been looking at this line for 10 yrs and it took time to narrow down .
joyce
-
I have also found her death cert.
-
You not have found them in the 1911 census cause they were no in this country. Have you tried the poor house records, They may have been in the workhouse there for would not be listed at a house address as one family but with a group of people of different surnames.
-
His mother appears to be Isabella SCOTT, daughter of Isabella CADGER who married William OGSTONE....... if the certificates are at least correct in that part, it seems Isabella (SCOTT) and later her son, both used surnames of their fathers - event though both were, each in their turn, illigitimately born.
Alexander PITTENDREIGH - b abt 1848/49
His marriage certificate seems to quite clearly indicate his parents, Alexander PITTENDREIGH & Isabella SCOTT were not married (to each other). Yet he has used his father's surname.
Alexander's death certificate, may be mis-informed that his mother was married PITTENDREIGH ms OGSTON or that his parents were married at all. The inormation seems to be a cobbling of a few separate part truths. Perhaps the informant partially mixed up his mother and his maternal grandmother, or was simply under the false impression that what he/she informed was correct.
It seems that Isabella SCOTT's death certificate is mostly correctly informed - does it say her mother is "CADGER or OGSTON" or does it say "ms OGSTON"? (I can't quite make it out). It appears she also used her father's surname even though her mother was unmarried at the time she was born. The Census seems to indicate, William OGSTON was her stepfather, and CADGER was her mother's (probable) maiden name (probable, because her mother is shown with the CADGER surname in 1841). Wonder who the GORDON laddie is though....
http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
1841: Whitewell, Tyrie, Aberdeenshire
William OGSTONE 60,
Isabel CADGER 33,
Isabel SCOTT 13,
James GORDON 12,
William OGSTONE 6,
John OGSTONE 3,
Elizabeth OGSTONE 8 mths,
Elizabeth FRASER 53, Female Servant,
ALL Born Aberdeenshire
http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
1851: Whytewell, Tyrie, Aberdeenshire
Head: William OGSTON 80, Crofter& Butcher, b Tyrie
Wife: Isabella OGSTON 45, b Fraserburgh
DauLaw: Isabella SCOTT 21, Farm Servant, b Strichen, Aberdeenshire
Dau: Elizabeth OGSTON 10, b Tyrie
Son: Robert OGSTON 8, b Tyrie
Dau: Joan OGSTON 4, b Tyrie
Son: Charles OGSTON 3, b Tyrie
Dau; Barbara OGSTON 6, b Tyrie
1861: Milltown Boyndlie, Tyrie - in Household of William FOWLIE, Parochioal Schoolamster & Farmer 50 acres
Servant: Charles OGSTON 12, Cattle Boy, b Tyrie
Servant: Alexander PETTERBRIGH??, 9, b Tyrie
1871: Alexander PITINDREICH 20, b Tyrie
Farm Servant at Mains Of Auchnagatt, New Deer (Savoch)
BIRTHS IGI: At Tyrie, to parents: William OGSTON & Isabella CADGER
William OGSTON b 19 Jun 1834
John OGSTON b 7 May 1838
Elizabeth OGSTON b 13 Oct 1840
Robert OGSTON b 13 Jan 1842
Barbara OGSTON b 13 Mar 1843
Joanna OGSTON b 18 Dec 1845
Charles OGSTON b 2 Nov 1848
Cheers
AMBLY
If my research is correct, the Elizabeth Ogston I have highlighted here is my great-great grandmother. Her daughter Joan (b.1873) married Alexander Scott (b.1873) and had 7 sons, including my grandfather Lewis Scott, who from what I have read was something of a jack of all trades in his native Fraserburgh. He played for Fraserburgh FC when they won the Highland League in 1932-33; played cricket for Fraserburgh in the Buchan League; was the youngest member of the Town Council when he served from 1937-1946; he pops up constantly in the Fraserburgh Herald and Norther Counties' Advertiser on the BNA website.
Question is, does anyone know who Joan's father was?
-
Question is, does anyone know who Joan's father was?
Have you got her marriage certificate? Does it gve her father's name?
Is there a corrected entry linked to her birth certificate?
Could her mother have applied to the parochial board for assistance under the Poor Law? If so, there could be a record of her father's name there.
By 1873 it's probably a bit late for there to be anything useful in the kirk session records, but it would be worth checking just in case.