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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: BonnieDownUnder on Friday 05 April 13 21:31 BST (UK)
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Hello,
Daniel Samuel Hunt, a 'Sea Captain', when and where born unknown. A possible marriage is to a Sarah Jane Brandon Q3/1874 7a/974 Caistor, Lancs.,
I believe their daughter was Mary Emmett/Emmitt HUNT was born 1878 Caistor, Lincs.
On 05 Dec 1897 Mary married (age shown as 21 but if above is correct, she was 19) William Henry Joseph Garrard at St Barnabas, Rotherhithe, Surrey and her brother Samuel Daniel Hunter married in the same church in 1900. They were witnesses at each other nuptials and both showed their father to be Daniel Samuel Hunt a 'Sea Captain'
What I have been unable to locate is Daniel, his (possible) wife Sarah Jane nor the above with any other possibly siblings on C1881 or 1891 though I have tracked daughter Mary (person I am interested in) on subsequent census and previous thread on Roots Chat.
Any assistance much appreciated, locating census records and birth of DSH and marriage, thanks.
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Hi
In 1881 they are at Great Grimsby, RG11 pce 3270 folio 14 pg 25
Daniel 23 Fisherman born Bromley London
Sarah J 22
Mary 3
Samuel 4mo
Dawn
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Thanks for that Dawn ... I wonder how Daniel went from being a 'Fisherman' to a 'Sea Captain'??
Bonnie
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Unfortunately, Surnames beginning with the letter "H" are not on the on line index for Lloyd's Captains Register. This register can be viewed at London Metropolitan Archives. There is also an index of Captains 1845 - 1854 in the series BT114 at the national archives. Also BT127 may be of help
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C3165
I understand copies of certificates of service and competency are available on Ancestry.com.
He could have been Captain/Skipper of a fishing boat. If so you need to look at the series BT138 at Kew.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATLN=3&CATID=1609&SearchInit=4&SearchType=6&CATREF=bt138
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Hi Bonnie, this looks to be 1891:-
Sarah J Hunt 33 Married b Rotherhithe
Mary E 13
Samuel 10
Robert 7
Cornelius 5
Daniel 3
Alfred 3 months b Rotherhithe
George Brandon 9 Nephew b Grimsby
Residing at 37, Trident Street, Rotherhithe
Census Ref RG12/382/55/16
All other than shown born Grimsby (Transcribed on my site as Grainsby)!
Keyboard86
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Hi again Bonnie, by 1901 Sarah J Hunt has re-married? to an Arthur W Smith c 1893 as Cornelius, Daniel J, and Alfred Hunt are shown as Step Children
Residing at 15, Reed Street, Rotherhithe
Census Ref RG13/398/105/38
Keyboard86
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Thanks for that Dawn ... I wonder how Daniel went from being a 'Fisherman' to a 'Sea Captain'??
Bonnie
He probably owned or skippered a fishing vessel and thought Sea Captain sounded better.
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Hi a sad story re Cornelius Hunt:-
Marriage 25th December 1907 St Katherine, Rotherhithe
Cornelius Hunt aged 22 occ Soldier Father Samuel Daniel Hunt occ Seaman (Deceased)
Ethel Maude Brady aged 19 Spinster Father Francis William Brady occ Lighterman
UK, Royal Naval & Royal Marine War Graves Roll 1914-1919
Cornelius Hunt
Rank Gunner
Birth Date 1st November 1885
Birth Place Grimsby
Branch of Service Royal Marine Artillery
Cause of Death Killed or died as direct result of enemy action
Official Number Port R.M.A./11543 (Po)
Death Date 13th May 1915
Location of Grave Not recorded
Body not recovered for burial
Relatives notified and address Widow Ethel M, 7, Buller Road, Chatham
Keyboard86
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Hi again, and another sad tale, this is taken from the UK Commonwealth Graves 1914-1921, their is more information available, but this is from the transcript:-
Baghdad (North Gate) War Cemetery (Part 1)
Gunner Daniel Samuel Hunt 91386 82nd Bty Royal Field Artillery 1st Sept 1916 aged 30 Son of Sarah Jane Smith (Formerly Hunt) and the late Samuel Hunt, of 19, Cranham Road, Bermondsey, one of seven brothers who served, three of whom fell. Born in Grimsby
Keyboard86
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Hello Keyboard ... oh, so terribly sad ... I just can't imagine the grief that Sarah Jane would have felt loosing three sons ... War is such a terrible waste of young lives and sadly it is still happening as I write this message, with the lost of so many innocent children too
Thanks seaweed for your links to the national archives
... and to everyone, thanks for your amazing assistance and lets all take a moment to remember that we sleep well and safe because of those who made the ultimate sacrifice
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Hi again Bonnie, this looks to be Daniel in the 1861 Census:-
Stephen Hunt 36 occ Rivetter b Romford, Essex
Matilda 29 b Charlton, Kent
Stephen William 11 b Charlton, Kent
Matilda Erena? 9 b Woolwich
Daniel Sarm? 7 b Bromley, Middx
Samuel 3 b Poplar
Charles 7 months b Poplar
Living next door:-
David Hunt 32 occ Rivetter b Romford
Sophia 27 b Barking
Charles 10 b Barking
David 6 b Bromley
Susan Ann 5 b Poplar
Ellingan? 3 b Poplar
George 1 b Poplar
Residing at 29, Sabbarton Street, All Saints, Poplar
Census Ref RG09/306/63/23
In 1851 Stephen 26 occ Boiler Maker b Romford Matilda 20 b Charlton Stephen 1 b Charlton
Residing at 6, Sand Street, Woolwich
Census Ref HO107/1588/263/4
1841 Census
Daniel Hunt 45 occ Ag Lab
Mary 46
Daniel 18
Stephen 16
David 14
Mary 12
Robert 6
Sarah 4
William 2
All born Essex
Residing at Little Heath, Barking, Chadwell, Romford, Essex
Census Ref HO107/323/5/5
Keyboard86
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Hi again, cannot locate parents in 1871, but these could be the 3 of the children:-
Samuel Hunt 13 occ Scholar b London, Middx at Refuge Farm School, Bisley, Chertsey, Surrey
Census Ref RG10/806/6/4
Matilda Hunt 18 occ Servant b Chatham, Kent for Lewis/Emily Jacobs in Paddington
Census Ref RG10/3/35/63
Daniel Hunt 16 occ Boy 2nd Class b Middx on St Vincent, of Blockhouse Fort Portsmouth Harbour
Census Ref RG10/1137/42/13
Keyboard86
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A Grimsby marriage
Old Clee Church Grimsby 18/08/1874
David alias Daniel Samuel Hunt age 20 a fisherman of New Clee
father ..Stephen a boilermaker
Sarah Jane Brandon age 18 of New Clee
father William a labourer
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Hi again Bonnie, I have located the baptisms of the 2 Smith children on the 1901 Census:-
George Charles Roland Smith 21st July 1897 Father Arthur Frederick Mother Sarah
All Saints Rotherhithe, Abode 15, Reed Street
Arthur Frederick Smith 31st January 1893 Father Arthur Wlliam Mother Sarah Jane
St Katherine's Rotherhithe Abode 15, Reed Street
And this marriage?
All Saints Walworth 17th February 1892
Arthur William Smith 27 Batchelor occ Carman Father Jonathan occ Labourer Deceased
Sarah Jane Jones Brandon 33 Widow Father William Jackson occ Excavator Deceased (Note Hunt crossed out on surname for William Jackson)?
Both residing at 58, Marine Street, Bermondsey
Witnesses Henry and Mary Ann Longhurst
Keyboard86
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Thanks once again Keyboard86 for all the fantastic information; I am slowly sifting through all your finds and collating it onto the family tree. I had come upon Sarah's marriage to Mr. Smith and I am a little perplexed that she shows her father's name as William Jackson ? maybe he was William Jackson Brandon ... another avenue to follow up.
Thanks also to Barleymow for marriage record Hunt/Brandon, appreciated.
I will all track down all of Sarah Jane's sons military records. Also to establish when she was born. According to marriage record she claimed to have been 18 years of age but census records give a calculation of 15 years except for last one in 1911 which would (nearly) agree with age at marriage.
Thanks again. Bonnie
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Hi again Bonnie, why did she marry under her supposed maiden name, what is the Jones part in her middle name, why the Hunt surname crossed out re William Jackson (So many questions)!
Keyboard86
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Keyboard86 ... yes, it is strange that Sarah Jane Hunt married under her (supposedly) maiden name of Brandon and not her previous married name of Hunt.
I still haven't been able to find when she was born. Indications on census records give it as Rotherhithe.
On the 1891 census, a George Brandon (shown as nephew) aged 9 years, born Grimsby, Lincs., is living with her and her children in London. Try as I might, I haven't been able to find his birth registration nor him on any subsequent census. My thoughts were if I could locate his father, then I might be able to find him in conjunction with Sarah on C1861 or 1871
Sarah & Daniel's first born child, Mary in 1878, middle name was Emmett or Emmitt and again thought that this could be a lead to tracking down Sarah's parents but again, a dead end. Bonnie
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Hi Bonnie this possibly also does not help?
Death George Brandon Sept qtr 1891 St Olave 1d 162 aged 9
Keyboard86
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Hi Keyboard86 ... thanks for info and to add to this, he unfortunately didn't make it onto the 1881 census nor can I find a baptismal record.
I have found a marriage registration for Stephen Hunt Q2/1849 5/367 Lewisham however there is no match for the bride, Matilda. With help on this site searching the Birth register, it seems pretty certain her name was MATILDA WOOTTEN and have located her on C1841 census with parents and siblings. To ensure its a 100% certainty, will purchase the certificate.
Still working to find Sarah Jane Brandon and feel there is a clue with the name Emmett or Emmitt
Thanks again Bonnie
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;D See Matilda is v 5 page 307 and Stephen v5 page 367!
Keyboard86
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Appears that the '0' was mistakenly written instead of '6' when looking at the actual entry on page.
Bonnie
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;D Have a look at this family still looking for 1861?
1871 Census
Mary Brandon 48 Widow b Boston, Lincs
John 29 b Boston, Lincs
Sarah 15 b Rotherhithe, Surrey
Susan 10 b Greenwich, Kent
Residing at Hughes Fields. St Nicholas, Deptford, Kent
Census Ref RG10/750/54/22
Susan Brandon marries a George Fiddy b c 1862 Sprowston or Barford, Norfolk in Sept qtr 1881 Caistor 7a 1064
1891 as TIDDY on my site, RG12/2618/16/26 1901 RG13/3095/13/17 (Just wondering who was the possible mother of young George Brandon)?
1851 Census
Mary Jones 28 Married b Boston
John 8 b Boston
Mary A 3 b Boston
George 9 months b London, Middx
Shown as lodgers at Cowgate Street, St James Norwich, Norfolk
Census Ref HO107/1813/292/7
Keyboard86
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;D Well Iv'e found a William occ Excavator!
1861 Census
William Brandon 45 occ Excavator b Leighton Buzzard
Mary 35 b Boston
Mary A 14 b New Holland
George 11 b Poplar
Sarah F? 5 b Rotherhithe ( Looks more like a J on original)
Residing at 2, Vanes Court, East Street, St Alphage, Greenwich
Census Ref RG09/401/87/13
Keyboard86
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Gosh Keyboard, you just amaze me ... I have spent so long looking at census records and didn't come close ... thank you so much.
So the upshot is that a Mary ? married a Mr. Jones and in 1851 living at Norwich with children John, Mary A. and George. By 1861 she is a widow and remarried ?? to William Brandon and living at Greenwich with her children Mary and George now having the surname Brandon; whether Sarah Jane born in 1856 (or thereabouts) is Mr. Jones or Mr. Brandon's child is to checked out but now know where the 'Jones' came from on her marriage record. I have located a birth registration of a Sarah Jane Jones Q3/1855 1d/536 at Greenwich which is a possibility.
In 1871 Mary Jones / Brandon is once again a widow and with her is son John Jones now Brandon, Sarah Jane aged 15, and a Susan aged 10.
As a guess, I think that Mary's surname may have been Emmett or Emmitt; as previously advised, that is the middle name that Mary's daughter, Sarah Jane, gave to her daughter Mary
Thanks again ... just fantastic. Bonnie
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Hi again Bonnie, think the husband was a John Jones?
Marriage 1881 St Andrew, Great Grimsby
George Fiddy aged 19
Susan Brandon aged 19
Grooms Father William
Brides Father John Jones Brandon!
Christening John Jones 11th May 1843 St Botolph's Boston, Lincs Father John Mother Mary
Birth Susan Jones Brandon June qtr 1861 Greenwich 1d 631
A weird christening record for what looks to be 2 girls?
29th May 1861 St Alphege, Greenwich
Susan BRANDRAM born 12th May 1861
Sarah? Brandram born August 105??
Parents William and Mary abode Greenwich Union
Keyboard86
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;D Hi tell me if I did not find this birth earlier re Mary Ann Jones c 1848 ?
Mary Ann Emmett Dec qtr 1847 Glandford B 14 334
Mary Ann G*est Dec qtr 1847 Glandford B 14 3_4
The reason I ask, I went back to see if Glandford Brigg was the registration district for New Holland, and it would not come up!!
Keyboard86
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;D Hi tell me if I did not find this birth earlier re Mary Ann Jones c 1848 ?
Mary Ann Emmett Dec qtr 1847 Glandford B 14 334
Mary Ann G*est Dec qtr 1847 Glandford B 14 3_4
The reason I ask, I went back to see if Glandford Brigg was the registration district for New Holland, and it would not come up!!
Keyboard86
OK Bonnie their is this baptism:-
Mary Ann Emmett 24th December 1847 Barrow upon Humber, Lincolnshire Father Charles Mother Mary
Keyboard86
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Hi again Bonnie after Googling New Holland Lincs it is a small part of Barrow upon Humber!
See reply below!
Keyboard86
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;D Well Iv'e found a William occ Excavator!
1861 Census
William Brandon 45 occ Excavator b Leighton Buzzard
Mary 35 b Boston
Mary A 14 b New Holland
George 11 b Poplar
Sarah F? 5 b Rotherhithe ( Looks more like a J on original)
Residing at 2, Vanes Court, East Street, St Alphage, Greenwich
Keyboard86
Census Ref RG09/401/87/13
Hi again Bonnie after googling New Holland, it is part of Barrow upon Humber?!
Just wondering if she ever married any of her childrens fathers, if so who was she, a G*est?
Keyboard86
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Hi again Bonnie, I think you have enough info now to start about 3 family trees, final bit tonight re 1851 census.
If John Jones b 1843 was a Jones and Mary Ann Jones b 1848 was an Emmett, then what was George Jones b 1850 Poplar?
Keyboard86
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Hey Keyboard ... I have just woke up to find all your messages ... my head is swimming with so much information, thanks once again.
Just quickly, like you said, it looks doubtful that Mary ever married Mr. Jones or Brandon ... 'it was tangled life she lead'
Thanks again and will be back in contact, once I have, maybe, sorted out who goes with whom ???
Bonnie
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;D Hi tell me if I did not find this birth earlier re Mary Ann Jones c 1848 ?
Mary Ann Emmett Dec qtr 1847 Glandford B 14 334
Mary Ann G*est Dec qtr 1847 Glandford B 14 3_4
The reason I ask, I went back to see if Glandford Brigg was the registration district for New Holland, and it would not come up!! I think Mary the mother is possibly a GUEST, but will check out?!
Keyboard86
Hi again Bonnie and anyone interested in this thread, Mary Ann was also shown on same ref as:-
Mary Ann Emmett Jones Dec qtr 1847 Glandford B v14 page 334
So where/how on earth did I find the 2 above!??
Keyboard86
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;D OK Bonnie, searching just on the V14 page 3_4 gives a Mary Ann G*est Jones!
So a Mary Guest possibly is the mother?
Keyboard86
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Hi Keyboard86 ... spent ages yesterday trying to figure out what children go with what father and ended up totally confused ??? Thanks again for your latest updated ... think it is a very good possibility that the mother, of all the children, was a Mary Guest. Sorry, but I have to leave this all now as about to go away ... hopefully I will return with a clear head to get a clearer picture.
All your assistance is very much appreciated. Bonnie
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Hello Keyboard86 ... Going on the baptismal records you found under the name BRANDRAM (which I have sighted) it looks to me like Sarah was born August of 1856. I found a Sarah Ann Brandon birth registered Q3/1856 1d/469 at Rotherhithe. On all census records, Sarah showed that this is where she was born so will go ahead with the purchase of the certificate.
Thanks again all your help.
Bonnie
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Hi BonnieDownunder,
Out of interest have you found anything further on Daniel Samuel Hunt the 'Sea Captain'. Recently researching name (not FH) and found article Trove newspapers listing which may help?
.....The Daily News (Perth, WA : 1882 - 1950), Thursday 21 July 1949, page 5 a request from a Mrs Mary Murray of Glasgow trying to trace her relatives who came to WA 'some years ago' looking for children of retired sea captain Daniel Samuel Hunt who moved to Perth; children names Amy, Maude, Decima, Deborah, Janet, Sam, Dan. Mrs Amy Williams of Cannington last known contact.
The father of these children is buried in Perth with registered wife Janet (20yrs his junior) and registered mother of children. Janet and Daniel Snr married in 1900 but there were registered children prior.
Brijenik
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Thanks Brijenik for making contact.
Must admit I haven't delved much more into trying to find out what happened to Captain Daniel Samuel Hunt since my last message listed here.
The TROVE article looks interesting so will follow up on the names listed.
Thanks again, Bonnie
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Hi Bonny,
I am trying to get in touch with you in regards to Daniel Samuel Hunt Sea Captain. He was actually my great grandfather on my father's side. He came to and remarried Pinjarra, Western Australia in about 1901 to my great grand mother Janet Marr and she was from Scotland. I think you would be very interested in what genealogical information my dad has regarding this side of the Hunt family. Daniel Samuel was from Poplar, London, UK.
If you are interested in getting in touch with my father his name is Mr Mervyn Hunt we come from Glen Forrest, Western Australia. I would really love to hear from you regarding our interest in the same family.
Alethea Hunt
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Hi Alethea,
It seems that your great grandmother Janet Marr was the younger sister of my great grandmother Helen Marr, who was born in Scotland in 1859. I would be very interested in any information you or your father could share with me regarding the Marr family, and I'd be happy to offer you anything I have, too.
I think their father Robert McGregor Marr (our great great grandfather) may also have visited Australia in 1902 or thereabouts, with his children James and Margaret. I've managed to trace Janet's arrival in Perth to 1892, when she left Scotland on the SS Echuca as one of a group of female immigrants bound for the colony. I'm sure there is much more to be told!
Looking forward to hearing from you!
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Hi Jamkid,
My dad would greatly appreciate any information to this side of the Hunt family. It is very exciting to know we have distant relatives to the Scottish side of the family. There is no way of me sending you a more personal message.
If you could search my family address to Glen Forrest, Western Australia we are in the phone book under M and JC Hunt.
Look me up at my place of work in Tuart Hill, WA. I work at Tuart College Library as a Library Technician.
Regards
Alethea
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There is no way of me sending you a more personal message.
Welcome to you both! :)
If the two of you each place another message or two on this thread, you'll be able to use the PM (personal message) system. The system isn't fully available until you have made 2 (perhaps 3) posts on the board. If a person had made only 1 post, you may be able to send them a message ... but they won't be able to reply. :-\
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Hi Geoff-E,
Thanks so much for your advice, it sounds like a great plan! 😊
Cheers,
Jamkid
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Hi,
To those who may be interested in Daniel Samuel Hunt and his family, I am posting a summary of the information made available by his descendants in Perth, Western Australia.
Daniel Samuel HUNT was the 3rd child of Stephen HUNT (1825-1880) and Matilda WOOTTEN (1829-1864). They married on 23 June 1849 at St Luke's Church in Charlton, Kent, England and later moved to Poplar. Their children were: Stephen William HUNT b. 18 Aug 1849 d. 23 Sept 1925; Matilda Emma Eldridge HUNT b.28 May 1851 d. after 1932; Daniel Samuel HUNT b.7 July 1853 d. 6 June 1924; Samuel Charles HUNT b. 11 June 1857 d. 24 March 1878; Charles Henry HUNT b. 26 Aug 1860 d. 16 Feb 1925; Mary Anne HUNT b. 6 Sept 1862 d. 28 Aug 1932.
Daniel Samuel HUNT married Sarah Jane BRANDON on 18 Aug 1875 in Caistor, Lincolnshire. They went on to have a large family:
1. Daniel Samuel HUNT b.14 Sept 1875 Caistor, Lincolnshire d. 25 May 1876 aged 1 year.
2. Mary Emmitt HUNT b.13 March 1878 Caistor, Lincolnshire m. (1) William Joseph Henry GERRARD 5 Dec 1897 (2) Oliver James SEARL 29 April 1923
3. Samuel Daniel HUNT b.21 Nov 1880 Caistor, Lincolnshire m. Georgina Patston in 1900
4. Sarah Jane HUNT b. 10 July 1882 Caistor, Lincolnshire m. James Stuart CRABB 26 Mar 1900
5. Robert Joseph HUNT b. 14 Feb 1884 Caistor, Lincolnshire m. Jane Elizabeth TERRY 17 May 1903
6. Cornelius HUNT b. 2 Dec 1885 Caistor, Lincolnshire m. Ethel Maud BRADY 25 Dec 1907 d. 13 May 1915 on H.M.S. Goiath at Dardanelles, Turkey
7. Daniel Samuel Jubilee HUNT b. 28 June 1887 Caistor, Lincolnshire d. Sept 1916 in Adana, Turkey
8. Alfred HUNT b.4 Dec 1890 d. 1 July 1917 in France
Daniel Samuel HUNT left his family in Lincolnshire and went missing sometime between 1890 and 1892, and was believed to be lost at sea. His wife Sarah, with seven children to support, and believing herself to be a widow, married Arthur Frederick SMITH on 17 Feb 1892 at All Saints in Walworth, Surry. They went on to have two sons, Arthur Frederick SMITH and George Charles Ronald SMITH.
Meanwhile, Daniel made his way to Western Australia around 1896, and remarried Janet MARR in Perth. Janet (b. 26 July 1873) was some 20 years his junior, and had emigrated to Perth in 1892 from Islay in Scotland. They married on 1 Nov 1900 at St John's Church in Pinjarra, Western Australia.
They had the following children:
1. Katie Maud HUNT b.8 March 1897 in Pinjarra, Western Australia d. 7 Aug 1974 in Claremont, W.A.
2. Elizabeth Debra HUNT b. 21 Feb 1899 in Pinjarra d. 3 Aug 1984
3. Daniel Samuel HUNT b. 9 Aug 1901 in Pinjarra d. 2 July 1984
4. Decima Amelia HUNT b. 17 Aug 1903 in West Murray W. A. d. 16 July 1998
5. Janet HUNT b. 7 Dec 1904 in West Murray d. 28 June 1966
6. Samuel Daniel HUNT b. 5 April 1906 in West Murray d. 1 July 1984
7. Victor HUNT b. 21 May 1908 d. 9 Dec 1996
Daniel Samuel HUNT died in Guildford W. A. on 6 June 1924. His wife Janet MARR had died some nine years earlier, on 11 Oct 1915 at the Wireless Hill Station in Applecross.
Janet MARR was the daughter of Robert McGregor MARR, a cooper from Glasgow, Scotland (1833-1907), and Janet HART (1837-1894), who was born in Essequibo, British Guiana, when her parents were there as part of a Scottish labouring force in 1837.
If anyone wishes to learn more details about any of the people mentioned here, please contact me and I'll be happy to help!
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Hi Jamkid,
Am interested in any information about the Hunt family from when he married Janet Marr and moved to Pinjarra.
I think my grandmother was Janet Hunt born 7 December 1904 (but she died about 1976, not 1966).
Any further details appreciated. We only knew of one brother, Daniel Samuel.
cheers,
Huntfam
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Hi Jamkid,
Details I have of Janet Hunt:
Married Hubert Ward. Lived in several places around WA, including Maylands and Fremantle.
Three children:
Hubert b. 1925
Gilbert b. 1926
Leonard b. 1934
cheers,
Huntfam
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Hi Huntfam,
How nice to hear from you!
I have only a little bit more information about Janet Hunt to share with you.
She was baptised on 4 November 1906 in Pinjarra. I have the date of her death as 26 June 1981 in Bicton, WA.
I have reference to her marriage to Hubert Ward on 30 April 1924 in Beverley, and there’s a newspaper article describing the event in the “Bruce Rock Post and Corrigin and Narembeen Guardian” of 23 May 1924. I can send you a copy if you like.
Janet was one of a large family of siblings, as already outlined, and much of the information I have about the Hunt family has come from the son of one of Janet’s brothers, Samuel Daniel Hunt. He is living in Perth and I’m sure he would be delighted to get in touch with you.
Perhaps if you make another post we could message one another privately?
I believe there was a breakdown in the relationship between your grandmother’s parents, and her mother died on 1915 when Janet was very young. This may explain why you are not aware of all members of the extended family. I’d love to know any other details of Janet’s life that you could share.
Looking forward to hearing from you!
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Hi Jamkid,
Yes, I'd love a copy of that clipping.
Janet was only 73 or 74 when she died, so that's around 1977/78.
We think she was put into foster care/adopted and did not return to her mother. Don't know who this foster family was.
So there was a big chasm and Janet seemed pretty cut off from the rest of the family. I think she went to a few family gatherings later on, but details are non-existent, apart from a mention of Daniel Hunt, who offered her travel opportunities.
Will see if I can send a PM after this post.
cheers!
Huntfam
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Hi everyone,
I just came across this post by chance, I hope you don't mind me joining in. Janet Hunt (nee Marr) was my great great grandmother. Shortly after she arrived in Australia and before she met Daniel Samuel, Janet gave birth to my great grandmother Amy (July 1892) Amy’s father is listed on her birth certificate as Thomas Watson. It was the belief of Amy that her mother was sent to Australia because she was pregnant and unmarried. I haven’t verified the dates that Janet left Scotland and arrived in Australia so I’m not sure if that is true or if she could have possibly fallen pregnant on the way. There is also a birth record for a girl called Margaretta born to Janet Marr & Canello Petunis in 1895 but she then seems to have evaporated as I can find no trace of her after that.
Amy had three children, Stephen, Stella & my grandmother who was also named Amy. None of the three have a father listed on their birth certificate and Amy snr never told them who he was or if it was the same father for all of them. My grandmother had a warm relationship with her ‘uncle’ Samuel Daniel Hunt & he told her that he and some of his siblings were certain that their father Daniel Samuel Hunt had also fathered Amy Snr’s children including my grandmother but they couldn’t prove it. My family has never understood what Amy snr was doing in Esperance when my great aunt and grand mother were born (its approx 720km from Perth) but I now know that she was with Daniel Samuel Hunt and he in fact registered both of their births - not that it proves anything, we will never know. My great uncle was born in 2011 in Fremantle, my great aunt was born in 1914 & My grand mother in 1915, just two months after Janet passed away in Perth.
I would love to learn more about this side of the family and connect with some distant relatives to share information! If anyone knows the dates that Janet was in transit between Scotland & Australia could you please let me know?
Thanks :)
Jodie Daniels
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Hi Jodie,
My great great grandmother was Janet Marr’s older sister, and I have been researching Janet’s life as part of my family history.
Janet left London on 16 February 1892, sailing on the SS Echuca. Her trip was arranged by the United British Women’s Emigration Association and she travelled with a group of female emigrants destined for Fremantle. She arrived on 30 March 1892 and found immediate employment as a domestic servant with Mrs Wolff of Perth.
This arrangement was likely to have been over quite quickly if she had her daughter Amy in June ( the record I have seen gives Amy’s birthdate as 10 July).
Given the dates, it seems likely that Janet was pregnant before leaving Scotland, although I’m not sure how far in advance the arrangements were made, and how long she stayed in London before travelling.
If you would like to make another post I can try to send you a personal message with my email details so that we can swap notes!
Looking forward to hearing from you,
Jennifer
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Hi Jennifer,
It would be lovely to hear from you!
I’ve just checked and you are spot on - Amy’s birthdate is 10th July 1892. Janet’s first work arrangement in Perth must have been over quickly!
Hopefully this message allows you to send me a personal message. Let me know if not & I will try again.
Thanks :)
Jodie.
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Hi Jodie,
I think we need another post to activate the personal message feature. How about replying to this and we can try again.
So glad we are both talking about the same people!
Cheers,
Jennifer
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Hi Jennifer,
Sorry about the slow response, I didn’t get an email notification from the last message or perhaps it went to my junk mail. Hopefully this message will allow us to personal message :)
Cheers,
Jodie.
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Hi everyone!
I discovered this group while searching for info on Janet Marr who was my great great grandmother - I have struck gold! Have been trying for some time to find extra information about my grandmother's family - so thank you. Dancuz12 - I believe we are cousins - my grandmother is Stella Perkins (nee Marr) your grandmother's sister. Is there some way I can contact you and swap info on the family in WA - are you in Perth? Thanks everyone for the info - you have made my day! - Ros.