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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cumberland => Topic started by: Kazzalady on Saturday 06 April 13 10:24 BST (UK)
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Hello
I am researching the Armstrongs of Wetheral and Irthington. In particular I hope someone can help with the date of birth, place of birth and parents names for Thomas Armstrong born c1750. He died aged 42 in 1793 at Newby and was buried at Irthington. He married Jane Bowman in 1784 at Irthington and his marriage record shows his age as 35 and that he was a miller from Wetheral. There was only one child from the marriage, Thomas born 1785. (My 3 x great grandfather)
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Hi Kazzalady,
There was an old message board post in April 2008 which you may or may not have seen regarding Thomas Armstrong, will post just incase.
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ARMSTRONG/2008-08/1219098041
Sandra
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Hi Kazzalady,
You asked for information a while ago re. Thomas Armstrong and Jane Bowman of Irthington.
I do not have much information about Thomas but there are extensive pieces of information about Jane. She was being supported by the parish before she married and I could supply you a list of the payments etc.
Like you I am also descended from their marriage
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Hello Trevor108
Wow, any information about Jane Bowman would be greatly appreciated. I still haven't found anything further on Thomas Armstrong but still looking :) Which one of Thomas Armstrong and Ann Thompson's children are you descended from.
Karen
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Hi Karen
First Thomas Armstrong's mill
My investigations locate the mill at Ordance Survey grid ref 508623. On the map this is described as a 'motte'. The present day buildings are not the original ones and talking to the owner they couldn't shed any light to their date. They look Victorian. The earliest map I can find is the 184? Tithe map which clearly shows the mill and fish ponds next to it.
Second. I am descended from Thomas Armstrong 111. I believe that he had 12 children and the 7th was Isaac who only had one child a daughter Mary Ann who is my great grandmother.
Third Jane Bowman
She was very poor and consequently supported by the parish. There is a detailed list of payments to Jane between the years 1751 and 1773. I read it that Jane also had a mother called by the same name so it is difficult to understand who received which payments. James's father Robert and uncle??? Thomas received payments but in their case it was for the making of coffins and one shilling a time for a fox head.
I have typed up all of these records from the originals but how do I send them to you?
Tell me how and I will forward them
Lastly I have traced Robert's (christened 24.3.1718) father as Edward Bowman de Koulholm. Can't find his birth date but his eldest son was Johan (christened 9.1.1709) which puts Edward firmly into the 1600s
Hope this is all useful
Trevor
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Karen
Forgot to ask!
Who are you descended from?
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Hi everyone,
Thomas Armstrong (c1750 Irthington) is my 3rd great grandfather. I am a descendant of his son Jacob Armstrong.
Just wondering if anyone has any further information on Thomas since this original discussion.
Planning a visit from Australia to the area in May this year and keen to know more.
Thanks
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Hello Cin 65
I have just read your post and am excited to see it. I am also descended from Jacob Armstrong. I see that you live in Australia (as do I) and am wondering if you are also a descendant from William Armstrong and his wife Annie Forster. They are my great grand parents. If you are, here's hoping, I have a lot more information about our ancestors.
Karen
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Hi Karen,
I am also a descendant of William Armstrong.
My father is Donald Armstrong, his father is Oswald Fergus Armstrong.
Oswald Armstrong's father is William Armstrong. William is my Greatgrandfather. How exciting. I can't wait to hear what you have.
I am actually going to the UK in May this year and am planning on visiting Irthington, Carlisle. Any other information you have will be so much appreciated.
Thanks for replying, I am so excited. By the way I live in Brisbane.
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Hello
I knew your grandfather, he was known to me as (great) Uncle Os. I have also been in contact with Don (your Dad). He very kindly sent me some photos including a couple of wedding photos. I lost his email address when my hard drive got fried a couple of years ago. I am not sure if I sent him a copy of the Armstrong pedigree chart. If you are willing to give me yours I will send a copy to you.
Karen
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That would be fantastic. I am only just starting out on this journey.
I do remember someone doing a family tree a while back?? I would love to have yours. Thanks so much
Cindy2909@hotmail.com
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Hi, I’m also a descendant of Armstrong’s from Cumberland.
There are so many!!
2nd great grandparents
•Margaret Armstrong 1854-1920
•Thomas Alderson 1848-1912
(Tynemouth)
Children:
Thomas Armstrong born 1877
Margaret Jane Armstrong born 1879
George Armstrong born 1881
Robert Armstrong born 1884
Frances Isabelle Armstrong born 1886
James Armstrong born 1891
Mary Armstrong born 1894
John Armstrong born 1896
3rd great grandparents
•John Armstrong 1829-1887
•Grace Stewart 1832-1908
(Workington/Durham)
Children:
Thomas Armstrong born 1851
Ann Armstrong born 1853
Margaret Armstrong born 1854
Martha Armstrong born 1858
Grace Armstrong born 1860
George Armstrong born 1863
Mary Armstrong born 1865
Robert Armstrong born 1867
Jane Armstrong born 1870
Elizabeth Armstrong born 1872
4th great grandparents
•George Armstrong 1796-1858
•Sarah Banton 1800-1886
(Bewcastle/Cockermouth)
Children:
Isaac Armstrong
Susannah Armstrong
Mary Armstrong
Thomas Armstrong
This is as far as I have got, please correct me if any is wrong.
I would love to share info with others that are researching the same line.
Kind regards
Lisa x
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Hello Lisa,
Thanks for the reply, but sadly none of the Armstrongs you listed are connected to my family. Good luck with your research
Karen