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Hello,
I'm looking for information on the families Balshaw and Goore (or Gore) from the area around Ormskirk in Lancashire (and also have some information I'd be willing to share on these families). I've traced one line of Balshaws back to about 1713 but haven't been able to get further, partly because so many of them had the same given names. And I'm having less luck with Goores, who married into the Balshaw family and seem to have had an enduring connection with them. Any information on these families and the connections between them would be appreciated!
Cheers.
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I'm not sure how you bridge the time gap,but there are lots of very early Balshaw and Gore records here:-
http://archive.org/details/registersofparis01orms
Regards
Roger
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Many thanks, Roger. There's much to browse through there.
Are you connected with these families?
Regards,
Jane
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No,I'm not connected.I can't find any intervening registers either I'm afraid.It might be worth looking for similar registers for nearby locations-Lydiate maybe?
Regards
Roger
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Ormskirk
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St Peter and St Paul
John Balshaw,
buried
21st April 1569
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St Peter and S Paul Ormskirk
unnamed Gore wife of Henrie Gore
9th May 1558
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Gilbert Balshaw seems a popular name in this area,
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the first marriage within St Peter and St Paul
for Balshaw and Gore doesnt appear untill 1869
16th May 1869
Joseph Balshaw,full age bachelor ,paviour of Aughton
Alice Gore,her mark,spinster of Ormskirk
grooms father William Balshaw pavior
brides father Charles Gore,deceased
witness to marriage,
William and Mary Lawton
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Thanks, Roger. No joy on finding other parish registers in the area that are available to read online (I've checked Lydiate, Aughton, Sefton, Formby), but the links are nevertheless a great resource. I really appreciate your help.
And Radcliff, many thanks for your responses, too. My male Balshaws are mainly Williams, Thomases, and Johns. They do seem to have used the same given names over many generations. One of my Williams married Anne Goore at Altcar in 1777.
Does anyone know anything about Goore Balshaw? He was the son of William and Anne and appears to have been convicted of manslaughter in 1809--yet sentenced only to six months in prison. I'm trying to discover the story of this crime and the reason his sentence was so light.
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What an interesting name
St Peter and St Paul,
14th Feb 1805
Richard Gore Balshaw,,of Altcar
Rosetta Sephton of this parish
married by licence
witness to the marriage
William Balshaw and James Rigby
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I then assume one of your William Balshaw names his son Goore Balshaw in St Thomas Lydiate
October 1842,mother Elizabeth
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Can you visit Lancashire archives in Preston,
to check this document
QSP/1167/3
Aughton
Disapearance of of Thomas Goore,servant to William Balshaw husbandman
witness,in R,v Henry Wilkinson
circa 1720
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Wow--interesting. Unfortunately, as I am in the U.S., I can't visit the archives in Preston. I'm doing my research online and by ordering docs from various archives and from the LDS. But I have a contact who visits Preston occasionally and will pass this information on to him.
I believe Richard Goore Balshaw was the son of John Balshaw, brother to the Wm born 1751 and grandson of Wm b. 1713. John Balshaw may also have been married to a Goore.
I'm not sure how the Wm who named his son Goore in 1842 is connected, though he clearly is. There are quite a few Goore Balshaws, and quite a few people named Goore Balshaw plus another surname.
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I will give you that information and then you can put it in your to research another day folder
St Thomas Lydiate
2 October 1842
Goore Balshaw
son of William and Elizabeth
abode Lydiate
fathers occupation farmer
This is possibly his parents marriage
St Andrew Maghull
8th December 1841
William Balshaw,full age ,farmer of Altcar
Elizabeth Fairclough,full age spinster of Lydiate
grooms father George Balshaw ,farmer
brides father Henry Fairclough ,farmer
witness to marriage Edward Watkinson and Ann Fairclough
married by licence
children
Goore,1842,
abode Lydiate,
Henry 1844
abode Altcar
William,1846
abode Altcar
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Radcliff,
Many thanks for the George Balshaw/Goore Balshaw record. The Wilkinson family has a close connection to the Goore-Balshaw line, too, so it's interesting to see a Wilkinson as witness. I will take a further look. I appreciate all your help!
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Radcliff,
Ah ha. Mystery solved. I took a look at the 1841 marriage record of William. The "George" Balshaw listed as William's father is actually Goore Balshaw, b. 1788, in my line of Balshaws. The 1788 Goore is the one who was, I think, convicted of manslaughter. I must find out more about that! Anyway, as you see, these folks liked to christen their children with the same names, generation upon generation.
Many thanks!
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I suspected he was Goore but didnt have the proof other than I couldnt find a George Balshaw birth that fitted in with this family,Good luck with your research
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Do you have an Australian equivalent?
http://home.clara.net/balshaw/indexes/goore.
Regards
Roger
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Radcliff, thanks sincerely for all your help.
Roger, I do have some records for the Australian Balshaws, who are descended from Goore's son Richard Goore Balshaw and his wife Anne Jane Watkinson.
These folks got around.
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There are extensive records back to the 16th century for Balshaws and Go(o)res here:-
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
Regards
Roger
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Roger,
Extensive, indeed! Makes one's head spin a bit. But thanks for the heads-up.
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Quite a few of the Ormskirk area Gore families on this site , wich has a searchable data base
Boat Families - Ormskirk & District FHS
Might be worth a look .
Regards Sal :)
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I have some info on the Balshaws from Altcar but not sure if I have already been in touch with you.
Norma
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Hi I,m a direct descendant of Richard Gore Balshaw, and his 3rd son Richard Watkinson, and are one of many in Australia. Tracking them they have moved far and wide in Victoria and NSW, and now through me into South Australia. My grandfather was one of Richard Watkinson's sons and was only 5 when his father died in 1885. My grandfather had a brother Richard Gore born 1876, and died at Menzies (WA goldfields) listed as a woodcutter in 1904. I have only been able to trace back to William born October 1713, at Barton near Ormskirk. I think his father was John. Any help would be great fully received.
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I have some information on the Goods,Balshaw families. Have we been in touch previously?
Norma
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Sorry Norma for not replying sooner but I have been away. I don't recall being in touch before.