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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Durham => Topic started by: Jaime2013 on Sunday 21 April 13 20:17 BST (UK)
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I am helping my friend do her family tree and i am looking for past family.
I am up to Lawerance Heaton abt 1895 which we believe was born in Dewsbury (but not 100%sure) but from him to my friend they r all from Durham area. Lawerance Heaton got married to Frances Routledge in 1915 I found it on FREEBMD.
They had children:
Margaret M Heaton 1916 Durham
Maureen L Heaton 1918 Durham
Wilfred L Heaton 1921 Durham
George V Heaton 1923 Durham got married to Lilian E Graveling
Dennis Heaton 1926
George V Heaton and Lilian E Graveling
Had 4 children, but can only find 2 on FREEBMD, but my friend told me of two others.
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If you are using FreeBMD to search the GRO index of Births then the 'missing' two may not yet have been transcribed, the data base is growing but the years you are talking about are relatively recent so you may have to wait a while for them to reach FreeBMD.
If you are in the UK though, your local library will most likely have access to one of the subscription genealogy sites, such as Ancestry or Find My Past, who have transcribed the index on their sites up to around 2006. If you go to the library and search then you will find them. I have just looked and there 'are' four births with that combination of surnames registered over a 17 year period in County Durham, but these people may still be around so we aren't allowed to post the details in here.
Boo
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im looking for Lawerance Heaton parents
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Hello,
if he is the one registered 1895, Dewsbury then this would be him, with parents Herbert and Hannah Mary and siblings, living Liversidge.
1901 4263/ 58/ 20
regards
heywood
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Hello,
if he is the one registered 1895, Dewsbury then this would be him, with parents Herbert and Hannah Mary and siblings, living Liversidge.
1901 4263/ 58/ 20
regards
heywood
I agree it does look like a 'possible' but there was also a Lawrence Heaton married in Dewsbury in 1921 (to a Marjorie Bruce) and a death registration for a Lawrence Heaton in 1968 (born c 1895) in Dewsbury, so I'd be wary of tracing the family back via that census return without first getting the marriage cert from 1915 to see what that says about the groom's age and his father's name.
Jaime2013, what do you have to indicate 'your' Lawrence was born in Dewsbury c 1895 ? Does your friend have any idea when and where he died?
Boo
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Hi Boo,
I agree he is only a possible as there are others born within a few years of that Lawrence.
There is a death in Durham which gives a year of birth of 1890.
Free BMD has birth in 1890 for Laurence Heaton, Helmsley, North Riding :-\
The marriage certificate will help and looks to be an essential purchase.
Heywood
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I checked on Durham Registrars Certificates to see of Frances Routledge was a widow as there were a lot of widows around in 1915. She has no other names so this was probably her first marriage.
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my friend no nothing of her family. all she knows is most of her family r from durham but she has heard rumours that one or 2 are from yorkshire. her father has been doing the family tree and is stuck to where i am.
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Lawernce and Frances Routledge married in Durham i found it on Freebmd i looked up Heaton and Routledge with no year and only 2 come up including this one. i then but heaton and Routledge as a birth and George V Heaton came up with his siblings. this is the relation to my friend. this is who i know they were married in durham. not 100% sure of where lawernce was born or his parents
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Hello,
you will need to get his marriage certificate to check his father's name.
regards
heywood
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There was a death registered in Durham Central District for a Lawrence Heaton, aged approx 74, in Q4 1964.
There is also an entry in the Probate Calendar for him which gives the following detail:
Heaton Lawrence of 1 Railway Cottages Shincliffe Village county Durham died 2 October 1964 at Shincliffe Village. Administration Durham 15 July 1965 to Dennis Heaton of no occupation £156.
If any of that rings any bells with your friend or her father then there is a birth registered Q2 1890 for a 'Laurence' Heaton in Helmsley District which looks promising.
Boo
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I gave that birth as an alternative in reply 5 for Jaime to consider. ;)
It looks most promising as we both agree but it would be good to have official confirmation through a certificate.
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There was a death registered in Durham Central District for a Lawrence Heaton, aged approx 74, in Q4 1964.
There is also an entry in the Probate Calendar for him which gives the following detail:
Heaton Lawrence of 1 Railway Cottages Shincliffe Village county Durham died 2 October 1964 at Shincliffe Village. Administration Durham 15 July 1965 to Dennis Heaton of no occupation £156.
If any of that rings any bells with your friend or her father then there is a birth registered Q2 1890 for a 'Laurence' Heaton in Helmsley District which looks promising.
Boo
Dennis is his youngest son
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all they know is a memeber of the family was from yorkshire and then moved to durham
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If that is all they know, then they should start from what they are certain of - that is the marriage of Lawrence and Frances.
The certificate will give them the fathers' names of the couple and they can proceed from there.
As we have discovered, there was probably a wrong assumption initially and you don't want to end up with the wrong information and family.
The latest one found looks really good from the birth/death dates but it is still not definite.
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my friend has said her dad got stuck in hemlsey
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my friend has said her dad got stuck in hemlsey
The way out of Helmsley is through the certificate. ;)
Helmsley was not mentioned initially- that was Dewsbury.
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my friend is reading this post
have u got any advice to help her like what she needs to do to get certifcate
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http://www.durham.gov.uk/pages/Service.aspx?ServiceId=663
or
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
good luck
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thank you i have passed the links onto her
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my friend is reading this post
have u got any advice to help her like what she needs to do to get certifcate
Certificates can be ordered online from The General Register Office http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ using the details you had from FreeBMD ( though 'do' click on the little glasses icon next to the Free BMD Entry first and check the scan it was typed from, to make sure that the page and volume numbers are correct) cost is £9.25 and it takes about a week or so to arrive.
Or you could contact Durham Registrars http://www.durham.gov.uk/Pages/Service.aspx?ServiceId=8484 and buy the certificate from them, but they charge £11
Do bear in mind that 'sometimes' the people getting married didn't know their father's name. Its not 100% certain that a marriage cert will have a father's name though they usually do.
Boo
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There was a death registered in Durham Central District for a Lawrence Heaton, aged approx 74, in Q4 1964.
There is also an entry in the Probate Calendar for him which gives the following detail:
Heaton Lawrence of 1 Railway Cottages Shincliffe Village county Durham died 2 October 1964 at Shincliffe Village. Administration Durham 15 July 1965 to Dennis Heaton of no occupation £156.
If any of that rings any bells with your friend or her father then there is a birth registered Q2 1890 for a 'Laurence' Heaton in Helmsley District which looks promising.
Boo
Dennis is his youngest son
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This is my family, George Vernon Heaton was my grandad, what do you need to know?
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Hi
I am Lawrence and Frances Heaton's grand-daughter. My mother was Margaret Mary Heaton.
I can give you some more family history if you want it.
Vivianne
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George Vernon Heaton is the grandfather of my friend her dad is James Lawerance Heaton