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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Aberdeenshire => Topic started by: Seaton Smithy on Wednesday 24 April 13 10:49 BST (UK)
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Hi. I am seeking some advice on an address listed in records as Bogend.
In 1891 it was the home of Alexander McDonald, his son James Drysdale McDonald and James' wife Elizabeth Muirson.
I am not directly related to the McDonalds, as I am descended from Elizabeth through her illegitmate daughter Maggie Ann Kidd Murison, who in 1891 was living with the family at Bogend.
According to his birth certificate, in 1899 Maggie's son (my grandfather) Charles Smith Murison was born at Bogend.
I have found aercheological references to a couple of ruins named Bogend Cottage but these appear to be in different parishes. In addition, one of James and Elizabeth's children Barbara Ferguson McDonald appears to have died at Bogend as late as 1983.
Any information about the actual location of Bogend would be appreciated.
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A small update.
On some family records, Bogend is described as Bogend, Shiels.
Looking at a copy of the Ordnance Survey Maps One-inch "Popular" edition, Scotland, 1921-1930
online from the National Library of Scotland I located Shiels, represented on the map with a group of black squares indicating a number of buildings. Not surprisingly, not far south from where Talpabrae from my other request was located. I have now also located modern-day Shiels on Google maps.
I would still like to pin down an actual location for Bogend. I have it as still occupied by the family on the 1911 census, which might be as far as I can take that line of enquiry.
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Hi
Have you tried checking the Valuation Rolls? Online the only years available at present on the pay to view site www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk are 1905 and 1915.
For example , in 1905 there are two entries showing in Midmar with a Bogend reference. In 1915, there are six entries.
Monica :)
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Thanks for the suggestion about the Valuation Rolls. It has been helpful.
I grabbed the 1905 record for Bogend + Mcdonald. It confirmed that Bogend was a house on the Estate of Shiels, and listed a number of crofts, farms and houses on the estate.
I have scoured the 6 inch Ordnance maps from 1869 and 1902, and most of the residences named on the roll are named on the maps. Two that are on the roll are not identified by name on the map, and Bogend is one of those.
Although I have not specifically located Bogend I have a good idea about the general location.
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"Any information about the actual location of Bogend would be appreciated."
I decided to go a run in the car to dig a litle more this morning.
Bogend Cottage no longer exists. It has been demolised and built over, with the name being changed to "The Neuk". It was/is situated right at the corner between "Scottiestone" and "Nether Shiels". Although all the old maps show a building at the corner, none of them seem to have it named. The new one is on Google Street View. It had no running water. I was given the history by a very nice octogenarian woman who lives just down the road, and used to care for one of the women who lived at the cottage.
Regards
Malky
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Thank you so, so much.
I had wondered if that house on the corner (in the old maps) could be it - it seemed the most substantial unnamed building on the estate. Now I know.
Your effort is very greatly appreciated. We hope to come over in the next couple of years, if you are still around perhaps I can return the kindness.
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Aberdeen Journal, 6 July 1942
ROYAL GREETINGS TO CLUNY COUPLE
A telegram from the King and Queen was amongst the messages of congratulations received by Mr and Mrs D M'Donald, Bogend Cottage, Tillyfourie, on the occasion of their diamond wedding
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Many thanks for that lead.
Three weeks ago I knew very little about my grandfather.
Thanks to the British Newspaper Archive site I now have a photograph of my great-great-grandmother and her husband.
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"Any information about the actual location of Bogend would be appreciated."
I decided to go a run in the car to dig a litle more this morning.
Bogend Cottage no longer exists. It has been demolised and built over, with the name being changed to "The Neuk". It was/is situated right at the corner between "Scottiestone" and "Nether Shiels". Although all the old maps show a building at the corner, none of them seem to have it named. The new one is on Google Street View. It had no running water. I was given the history by a very nice octogenarian woman who lives just down the road, and used to care for one of the women who lived at the cottage.
Regards
Malky
And had it still been there, here's how it would have looked:
(http://home.iprimus.com.au/nefernu/Bogend.jpg)
This is Bogend Cottage shortly before demolition.
I have another photo taken while it was still inhabited, possibly around the 1930s.
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Malky.
Alexander MacDonald was also my GGGrandfather (through John Troup MacDonald). I would love to see the older picture of Bogend Cottage! (and any additional history from the lovely lady).
Laurie
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Malky.
Alexander MacDonald was also my GGGrandfather (through John Troup MacDonald). I would love to see the older picture of Bogend Cottage! (and any additional history from the lovely lady).
Laurie
Hi Laurie
The picture was posted by me. I can send you a copy of the other picture of Bogend by Personal Message, but before I can do that you need to post 2 more messages - you need to have a minimum 3 posts to access Personal Messages.
My connection to Bogend is through Elizabeth Murison, the wife of James Drysdale McDonald and Elizabeth's illegitimate daughter Maggie Ann Kidd Murison who was always counted as a "child of the marriage".
My grandfather Charles Smith Murison was the 1st of Maggie's 3 illegitimate children born at Bogend and raised by James & Elizabeth. James always counted them as his own grandchildren.
I assume your ancestor John Troup McDonald was James' brother.
I can only really give you history of Bogend during the period from James & Elizabeth's marriage in 1882 until the house was sold in controversial circumstances in the 1980s, but I can put you in touch with a direct descendant of James & Elizabeth's son James who may know more about the earlier history.
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Thanks so much for the quick reply.
Yes, John Troup MacDonald is a brother of James Drysdale MacDonald. I'm interested in any history of the cottage - early or later.
I'll make another post tomorrow.
Thanks,
Laurie
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Does anyone know of a picture of Alexander MacDonald?
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Thanks, Laurie. I'll PM you tonight.
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Thanks, Laurie. I'll PM you tonight.
Hi Seaton Smithy
I also have an interest in Bogend Cottage, Midmar.
If I post two more messages (I am a new member), would it be possible to PM it.
Smoothie69
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I'm sure we could arrange that.
What is your connection to Bogend?
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Hi and thanks for the reply.
James Drysdale MacDonald had a sister called Agnes Henderson MacDonald (1853-1880) who had some form of relationship with William Low, which resulted in the birth of Barbara Wilhelmina Low in 1873. Barbara Wilhelmina Low, in turn, had some form of relationship with William Kerr (b.1868), which produced a boy also called William Kerr. This William Kerr was born in Bogend Cottage, Midmar in 1896. I do have other info about this situation that I am happy to PM to you (when I get the necessary rights), but I do not want to go into too much detail in public.
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Sorry, I should have said that the first of the William Kerrs in my previous message was my great uncle and the second of the William Kerrs was my first cousin.
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So many people living and born at Bogend!
I've sent you a PM.