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Title: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 and '91 Census please.
Post by: derekseanbrown on Monday 29 April 13 17:24 BST (UK)
We have just been given some great info from other rootschatters regarding another topic in another forum. But this info has now lead us down another path and we would like info if possible from the '61 to '91 census (possibly in Ludlow) regarding ALL mentions of the family name BURSNELL in the area. We can then try to form an extended tree.
Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 and '91 Census please.
Post by: derekseanbrown on Monday 29 April 13 17:27 BST (UK)
I think I have put this in wrong section...it should be in Shropshire Lookup requests.....is it possible to remove it please. I have opened a new topic in the correct section.
Title: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 '91 census lookups please
Post by: derekseanbrown on Monday 29 April 13 17:30 BST (UK)
We have just been given some great info from other rootschatters regarding another topic in another forum. But this info has now lead us down another path and we would like info if possible from the '61 to '91 census (possibly in Ludlow) regarding ALL mentions of the family name BURSNELL in the area. We can then try to form an extended tree.
Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 '91 census lookups please
Post by: suzard on Monday 29 April 13 17:36 BST (UK)
Could you be a little more specific??

Any names d.o.b.?

Are you referring to Bursnalls b.in Ludlow? or just living in Ludlow ?

Suz
Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 '91 census lookups please
Post by: derekseanbrown on Monday 29 April 13 17:41 BST (UK)
We are really after a blanket search of Bursnells living in Ludlow in those years......then we hope to form the names into family trees. We dont know at this stage  exactly who we are looking for, hence the blanket search. :-\ Sorry about being a bit vague.

Thanks
Sean
Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 and '91 Census please.
Post by: Lostris on Monday 29 April 13 17:42 BST (UK)
Use FreeBMD to get a feel for the numbers involved .... and the census to help with individual families.

A lot of work as you can see from this simple search for ALL Bursnell Births, Marriages & Deaths in the Ludlow district (some will have branched out elsewhere of course, as you are aware)


Marriages Dec 1837   
BURSNELL  Francis    Ludlow  18 122   

Births Dec 1842 
BURSNELL  Mary Ann     Ludlow  18 80   

Births Sep 1844
Bursnell  Sarah     Ludlow  18 86   

Births Jun 1849 
Bursnell  Elizabeth     Ludlow  18 94   

Births Sep 1851   
Bursnell  James Francis     Ludlow  18 91   

Deaths Sep 1852   
Bursnell  James Francis     Ludlow  6a 333   

Births Mar 1853   
Bursnell  John     Ludlow  6a 498   

Births Jun 1855   
Bursnell  Henry     Ludlow  6a 506   

Births Sep 1859   
Bursnell  Charles     Ludlow  6a 483   

Births Mar 1861   
BURSNELL  Isabella Jane     Ludlow  6a 507   

Births Mar 1864   
BURSNELL  Catherine     Ludlow  6a 578   

Deaths Sep 1867   
Bursnell  Charles  0  Ludlow  6a 306   

Marriages Jun 1870   
BURSNELL  Elizabeth     Ludlow  6a 1053   

Marriages Jun 1874 
Bursnell  Ellen     Ludlow  6a 1097   
Bursnell  Henry     Ludlow  6a 1094   

Marriages Sep 1877   
Bursnell  John     Ludlow  6a 941   

Births Mar 1879   
Bursnell  Clara Jane     Ludlow  6a 611   


Deaths Dec 1879   
Bursnell  Francis  77  Ludlow  6a 387   

Births Dec 1880   
BURSNELL  Francis     Ludlow  6a 539   

Marriages Dec 1881   
BURSNELL  Philippa Sarah     Ludlow  6a 1151   

Births Jun 1882   
Bursnell  Henry     Ludlow  6a 588   

Marriages Sep 1882   
BURSNELL  Sarah     Ludlow  6a 913   

Births Mar 1884   
Bursnell  John     Ludlow  6a 553   

Births Jun 1884   
BURSNELL  Cartholina     Ludlow  6a 581   

Births Sep 1885 
Bursnell  Mary Ann     Ludlow  6a 568   

Births Mar 1888 
BURSNELL  Emanuel     Ludlow  6a 557   

Births Mar 1890   
Bursnell  Charles Herbert     Ludlow  6a 560   

Deaths Mar 1890   
Bursnell  Charles Herbert  0  Ludlow  6a 479   

Deaths Mar 1891   
Bursnell  Mary Ann  32  Ludlow  6a 441   

Births Jun 1892   
Bursnell  Francis William     Ludlow  6a 555   

Deaths Jun 1894 
Bursnell  Elizabeth  73  Ludlow  6a 329   

Deaths Sep 1897   
Bursnell  Henry  15  Ludlow  6a 323   

Births Mar 1900   
Bursnell  Harry     Ludlow  6a 589   

Deaths Mar 1900   
Bursnell  Harry  0  Ludlow  6a 479 

Births Sep 1901 
Bursnell  Mary Ellen     Ludlow  6a 574   
Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 and '91 Census please.
Post by: groom on Monday 29 April 13 17:43 BST (UK)
1871

Bursnell:  Piece: 2725 Folio: 84 Page: 33      Gaolford, Lower, St Lawrence, Ludlow. All born Ludlow

 Francis   Head          55   Cutlery Grinder        
 John    Son          21           
 Henry   Son          17               
 Jane     Daughter       10        
 Caroline   Daughter        8       


Bursnell  1871 Piece: 2724 Folio: 88 Page: 34     Gravel Hill, Stanton Lacy

 Francis   Head           68          Portsmouth Hampshire   
 Sarah   Wife           54          Ludlow  Shropshire   
 Ellen    Granddaughter     24          Birmingham Warwickshire   
 Phillippa   Granddaughter     14          Ludlow

1881 census is free to search   so you may like to do this for yourself
Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 '91 census lookups please
Post by: suzard on Monday 29 April 13 17:45 BST (UK)
I can't seem to find any - you can search the 1881 census free at family search

Why are you looking for Bursnalls if you don't know who you are looking for??
You must have at least one name - otherwise how are you going to connect?
or are you just doing a one name study ??

Just checked your other posts and it seems you are interested in Caroline????? And you have replies obn your duplicate post

Suz

Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 '91 census lookups please
Post by: Lostris on Monday 29 April 13 17:46 BST (UK)
see your other/original thread.
Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 '91 census lookups please
Post by: groom on Monday 29 April 13 17:50 BST (UK)
Duplicate thread  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,645362.0.html
Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 '91 census lookups please
Post by: derekseanbrown on Monday 29 April 13 17:53 BST (UK)
Lostris just reminded me.... We were given info on Elizabeth Bursnell 59 and Elizabeth Bursnell 18....both on 1881 census for Ludlow....so I guess we are trying to build family info around those two.

Thank you
Sean
Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 '91 census lookups please
Post by: suzard on Monday 29 April 13 17:58 BST (UK)
Caroline Bursnell has been mentioned on another of your posts -and you have some replies on your duplicate post - her mother was Elizabeth??? She was age 54 on 1871 census b Ludlow -is this the Elizabeth you are looking for????

Suz
Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 '91 census lookups please
Post by: derekseanbrown on Monday 29 April 13 18:03 BST (UK)
Only info we have is 1881 census ...Elizabeth aged 59 and daughter Caroline aged 18. Caroline ends up in Worcester as other rootschatters have shown me. Am now trying to find Caroline's birth details and details of her family to form a tree as her birth does not show up on Free bmd
Thank you
Sean
Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 '91 census lookups please
Post by: derekseanbrown on Monday 29 April 13 18:18 BST (UK)
The 1871 census details I was sent by a rootchatter, had a Caroline on there aged 8 but no mention at all of an Elizabeth?   :-\

Thank you
Sean

Topics merged
Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 '91 census lookups please
Post by: suzard on Monday 29 April 13 19:30 BST (UK)
The 1871 census details I was sent by a rootchatter, had a Caroline on there aged 8 but no mention at all of an Elizabeth?   :-\

Thank you
Sean

Topics merged

There is definately an Elizabeth
1871
Lower Gaolford? Ludlow Shropshire
Francis Bursnell head M 55 Cutlery Grinder
ELIZABETH wife 54
John son 21 lab
Henry son 17 lab
Jane daughter 10 scholar
Caroline daughter 8 Scholar
all b Ludlow
RG10 2725 84 33

Suz
Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 and '91 Census please.
Post by: groom on Monday 29 April 13 19:45 BST (UK)
Sorry, my fault I missed Elizabeth off. Thanks for picking that up Suzard.
Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 and '91 Census please.
Post by: suzard on Monday 29 April 13 19:55 BST (UK)
1861
Lower gaolford ludlow
Francis Bursnell head M 40 Whitesmith
Elizth wife 40
Elizth daughter 12
John son 9
Henry son 7
Chas son 2
Jane Isa 4mths

all b Ludlow
RG9 1836 54 23

there is also another francis in Ludlow but b Hampshire -wonder if he is related?

1851
Town St Ludlow
Francis Bursnell Head m 48 Cutler Portsmouth hants
Sarah wife 38 Ludlow
Mary A G Daughter 8 Ludlow
HO107 1982 337 45

1861
Gravel Hill Ludlow
Francis Bursnell head M 58 Retired Cutler portsmouth hants
Sarah wife 44 KLudlow
Phillipa Granddaughter 3 Ludlow
RG9 1835 56 10

Suz
Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 and '91 Census please.
Post by: groom on Monday 29 April 13 20:12 BST (UK)
That was the other family I found in 1871 - they then had another grand daughter with them
  Ellen  Bursnell   Granddaughter     24          Birmingham Warwickshire   
Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 and '91 Census please.
Post by: suzard on Monday 29 April 13 20:14 BST (UK)
this may fill a gap - possibly Elizabeth's maiden name was Prosser?

1851
Bull Ring
Francis Bursnell Head M 27 Whitesmith Ludlow Salop
Elizabeth wife 28 Ludlow
Francis Prosser 10 son Ludlow
Ellen Bursnell daughter 3 Birmingham Warwicks
Elizabeth Bursnell daughter 1 Ludlow
Isabella Prosser widow 64 Mother in Law Ludlow
HO107 1982 336 43

so it looks like Elizabeth had a child pre marriage
this could be her in 1841 (ages of adults 15+ years rounded down to nearest 5yrs)
1841
Upper gaolford Ludlow Salop
James Prosser 50 Wheelwright
Isabella 50
John 20 lab
ELIZABETH 15
Richard 15
Francis 3mths
all b in county
HO107 924 3 268

Suz

Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 and '91 Census please.
Post by: suzard on Monday 29 April 13 20:20 BST (UK)
That was the other family I found in 1871 - they then had another grand daughter with them
  Ellen  Bursnell   Granddaughter     24          Birmingham Warwickshire   

Hi Groom

wonder if there is a connection - they don't seem to have children only grandchildren??????
I can find them in 1841 but can't find francis b Ludlow???

Suz
Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 and '91 Census please.
Post by: suzard on Monday 29 April 13 20:25 BST (UK)
there is a marriage - Pallots

James Prosser
Issabella Pearce
1811 Ludlow

maybe Elizabeth's parents???

Suz
Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 and '91 Census please.
Post by: groom on Monday 29 April 13 20:39 BST (UK)
There is a marriage of a Francis Bursnell Dec 1837 Ludlow - I think he married Sarah Bucknall as they are in the 1841 census transcribed as

Frat Burgnell   35
Sarah Burgnell   25

HO107; Piece: 924; Book: 2  Ludlow

Title: Re: BURSNELL on 1861 '71 '81 and '91 Census please.
Post by: derekseanbrown on Monday 29 April 13 20:58 BST (UK)
Thanks all...this is motoring on at a great pace......need to draw up some possible trees from last lot of messages and do some calculated guessing!

Thank you
Sean