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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Pembrokeshire => Topic started by: Chris_9 on Sunday 05 May 13 17:46 BST (UK)
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Can anyone please help me find people and make connections / confirm connections?
Especially:
-- The Fort, Solva
-- Solva
-- W.H. JOHN (Guardian Newspaper, Solva)
-- Penycwm
-- coal minig area around Hookses (nr Trefran / Roch Gate)
-- Mathry / Rehoboth Chapel area
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Hi
Can anyone please help me find people and make connections / confirm connections?
You need to supply more info - without full names and a timescale - it is impossible to know what kind of connection you are looking for
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Hi, (nice cat)
I know, but I just wanted to see if anyone responded.
I have so much information that I don't think the forum would be the best means of airing it.
For starters though --
I'm looking for someone with detailed historical knowledge of The Fort, Solva. I have maps back to 1889, but want to know how many -- and where -- buildings / dwellings were before this. What is known as Fort Cottages today apparently were built in the 18th century (when?).
Would the Tithe map show more for the 1840's?
The other starters is family history of William Henry JOHN and the West Wales Guardian.
I have the Census information for him and Fort (plus lots else), but others may have more on WH JOHN's family history than me. I'm distantly related to him -- my grandmother was a (1st?) cousin to him.
Does that help for starters?
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Hi
Yes - that pads it out a bit and enables anybody reading it to know what it's about.
Hows this for spooky - I visited Solva last week whilst staying at St Davids. Nothing much there except for the harbour but it was a nice walk along the beach to the sea
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Yea... :-)
But it was one of many small important ports before the railways came.
Hope someone can help...
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When was Wiilam Henry John born and where?
FreeREG has some John Baptisms in Whitchurch c 1817-1837. Some have abode as Solva
Eg a WILLIAM/LUCE John were Baptisng there 1821-1833, Mother nee Jenkins (Marriage 1820 has have her a Lucy Jenkin), abode Solva.
Trish :)
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Hi Trish,
Many thanks for replying.
The trouble with these requests nobody knows how you know and can end up duplicating.
I have alot of stuff off FreeREG -- I really rate FreeREG -- excellent resource.
There are a number of people referred to Fort.
My problem is I really need to see Tithe Maps or other plans / maps that show how many and where dwellings were in The Fort to see if I can better tie it to the 1841 Census.
Also some of the EVAN(S), WILLIAM(S), JOHN, JENKINS were Non-Conformist. I had a 6 month sub. to Genealogist, but was not impressed by the quality of their information (eg transcriptions were full of errors compared to Ancestry and FindMyPast) plus N-C records didn't seem to cover the Parishes I was interested in -- Whitchurch, Brawdy, Roch, Mathry, Llanrhian -- to name the most important.
So for now I'm really asking for people with good local historical knowledge.
I'm working on a 'report of progress' for another relative (ie progress on Pembrokeshire) and really ought (if it's possible) to post some of the 'trees' I've created.
Actually, anyone with access to Rate Books for The Fort might shed extra light on who was there...
In hope...
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William Henry John was my great uncle. How can I help you?
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W.H. John of the Guardian newspaper in Solva married Beatrice Harries who is a first cousin twice removed of mine. I'm trying to trace descendants of the couple - among other things!
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I have 2 children for William and Beatrice - Greta (1908) and Rosetta (1912).
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I was told that William & Beatrice had 3 children: "Helena Margareta", Norman Harries and John, but was given no birthdates for them. 1911 census has W.H.John & Beatrice in Solva with 3 yr. old "Greta". Birth records have Helen Margaretta John b. 1907 Q3, Rosetta John, Q1 1912 and Norman H. John (Q2 1918), the latter 2 showing mother's m.n. as Harries. I can't locate Beatrice or her siblings in earlier censuses.
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I have been away for a couple of weeks and so need to re-acquaint myself with the backgrounds and to dig up what other information I may have. You can reach me at stephen_g_taylor@msn.com as this might be easier - please let me know if you are happy to do this.
Stephen
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Have you checked welshnewspapers on line? http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/home
The search key "w h john" (include the " " - important) produces a number of results (the set only goes up to 1919). I have also checked out search keys solva, fort solva, solfach"
Vision of Britain www.visionofbritain.org.uk has an 1819 map of the area which appears to show a building/dwelling, unnamed, where the cottages are currently located - but doesn't have the detail you require.
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William Henry John was my great uncle. How can I help you?
Hello,
Sorry about the long gap. Illness intervened.
I've returned to expanding family history. I have quite a long Progress Report on this and two associated line of relatives. I am trying to tie them together.
William Henry JOHN married Beatrice Elizabeth Ann HARRIES (b. 21 III 1880, Grangetown, Cardiff) in 1 XI 1906 (Solva).
Her father was already dead. He was a sea Captain and died during the 1890s. I'm not sure when but do have a candidate. Captain William HARRIES married Margaretta (on Beatrice's Marriage certificate) DAVIES (Solva). She seems to have been normally known as Margaret. He was born in Trevine (Trefin), Llanrain (Llanrhian) Parish.
I'm looking to make a more solid history involving HARRIES, DAVIES, WILLIAMS.
There are a lot of uncertainies about the maritime histories of these people.
If you wish, it might be better to exchange e-mails.
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W.H. John of the Guardian newspaper in Solva married Beatrice Harries who is a first cousin twice removed of mine. I'm trying to trace descendants of the couple - among other things!
Sorry about the long gap. Illness intervened.
I've returned to expanding family history. I have quite a long Progress Report on this and two associated line of relatives. I am trying to tie them together.
William Henry JOHN married Beatrice Elizabeth Ann HARRIES (b. 21 III 1880, Grangetown, Cardiff) in 1 XI 1906 (Solva).
Her father was already dead. He was a sea Captain and died during the 1890s. I'm not sure when but do have a candidate. Captain William HARRIES married Margaretta (on Beatrice's Marriage certificate) DAVIES (Solva). She seems to have been normally known as Margaret. He was born in Trevine (Trefin), Llanrain (Llanrhian) Parish.
I'm looking to make a more solid history involving HARRIES, DAVIES, WILLIAMS.
There are a lot of uncertainies about the maritime histories of these people.
If you wish, it might be better to exchange e-mails
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I was told that William & Beatrice had 3 children: "Helena Margareta", Norman Harries and John, but was given no birthdates for them. 1911 census has W.H.John & Beatrice in Solva with 3 yr. old "Greta". Birth records have Helen Margaretta John b. 1907 Q3, Rosetta John, Q1 1912 and Norman H. John (Q2 1918), the latter 2 showing mother's m.n. as Harries. I can't locate Beatrice or her siblings in earlier censuses.
See other posts about my delay.
Censuses:
1901: Beatrice is in Barry.
1891: The whole family is in St Woollos, Newport
1881: The family is in St Woollos and William is on a ship in Newport
1871 and earlier is difficult.
I have various Master & Mate Certificates, although there are 2 Captain William HARRIES which rather confuses things. One was born in Solva and died at sea in 1878. The other was born in Trevine (Trefin), despite Solva being mentioned in various documents.
I'd really need to make a PDF file of information available to you so you got the bigger picture.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the information.I have Margaret(ta) on 1881 census with her 2 children, mother Ann and brother John in Newport, with Margaret recorded as the wife of a Master Mariner. I, too have details of the tickets showing William's progression to Master. He died in Middlesbrough "found dead in the River Tees" according to death cert.1896. Probate granted to widow Margaretta. I'll have a look at the St, Woollos family.