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I am researching the Harris family and have reached Charles Pestell Harris who married Sophia Elizabeth Sumpter 21 Jan 1830 in Wingfield, Suffolk (according to BTS). I would like to verify the birth/baptism of said Charles Pestell Harris and his parentage. They went on to have at least 9 children between 1831-1847. Any help would be appreciated
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There are various men of this name, presumably connected.
Was yours the Charles Pestell Harris of Newnham, Cambridge (attorney) who had a son Charles Sumpter Harris (looks promising given Sophia's maiden name) and died at Newnham on 8 March 1849? His estate was valued at some £30,000.
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Not sure whether this is the same generation, but articles of clerkship dated 1810 & 1813 show Charles Pestell Harris of Ashby-de-la-Zouch, Leicestershire as a son of William Harris of Great Haywood, Staffordshire, miller, and a nephew of Ellis Shipley Pestell (gent, decd) late of Ashby-de-la Zouch.
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Charles Pestell Harris, aged 55, of Cambridge, was buried at St Andrew, Histon, Cambs on 14 March 1849.
On that basis his birth can be expected to be about 1794.
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Bury & Norwich Post
Wednesday 27 January 1830: Married, on Thursday last, Charles Pestell Harris, Esq. solicitor, of Cambridge, to Sophia Elizabeth, eldest daughter of W. Sumpter, Esq. of Wingfield Castle, in this county.
Wednesday 14 March 1849: (From Cambridge) Died, on the 8th inst. at his residence, at Newnham, in this county, aged 55, Charles Pestell Harris, Esq.
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Charles pestell Harris was one time town clerk of Cambridge, and appears to have been involved in some sort of court case against the council
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Charles pestell Harris was one time town clerk of Cambridge, and appears to have been involved in some sort of court case against the council
Yes he seems to have sued them for compensation for loss of office when they terminated his appointment, though earlier in his tenure he himself was challenged in the courts over whether his appointment was valid :)
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Yes, Charles Pestell Harris was a solicitor - I would be interested to see more details regarding his final estate of £ 30,000 and of his court case with the local council - could you oblige avm228? Now we know that he was born around 1794 in Newnham can anyone access that parish's baptism records as I would like to know his parents and where did he get the middle name of Pestell?
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We don't know that he was born in Newnham - that was where he lived when he died.
The articles of clerkship which I mentioned earlier in the thread name his father as William Haywood Harris of Great Haywood, Staffordshire, miller and his uncle as Ellis Shipley Pestell, which suggests Charles' mother's maiden name was Pestell.
Amended to correct William's surname.
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I believe you meant his father was William Harris (not Haywood) of Great Haywood, Staffs. - I'm sure this is my man as following his marriage to Sophia they named one of their sons Ellis Shipley Harris (Ch. 12 Aug 1841, Cambridge). Where can I find these articles of clerkship? Many thanks for your info so far.
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Sorry - yes, Harris, not Haywood, of course. I'll amend it.
If you have a subscription to Ancestry (or take out a free trial membership) you'll find the articles of clerkship and probate index details there.
For various local newspaper references to Charles including the litigation see www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk (you'll also find lots of references there to Ellis Pestell, also a solicitor).
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Also these from the National Archives:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/details?Uri=D378715
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/details/D421725-w-charles-pestell-gentleman-ashby-de-la-details
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References to relevant litigation:
http://tinyurl.com/bqtsgb6
http://tinyurl.com/chc4f2y
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Many, many thanks AVM228 for all your info - it has helped me find the baptism of said Charles Pestell Harris - he was baptised 9 Apr 1794 in Netherseal, Leics (Just a stone's throw from Ashby-de-la-Zouch) and he was the son of William Harris & Susannah Pestell, who were married 12 Jun 1792 in Wolverhampton, Staffs. (all found on www.familysearch.org)
I also located the articles of clerkship but I didn't find his probate record - can I ask you where exactly you saw the reference to a residue estate of £ 30,000?
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Great stuff :)
If you have access to Ancestry (presume you do, if you found the articles of clerkship?) then you'll find summary details of CPH's estate in the National Probate Calendar. Enter his name and select category "Tax, Criminal, Land & Wills". You should see an 1871 re-grant of probate referable to his 1849 death and a note that the former grant was made in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury March 1849.
Shout if you have any difficulties.
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You can download the will itself for a small fee from the National Archives's PCC collection:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D129855
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Charles pestell lHarris was my great great grandfather and I have history of the men that came out to New Zealand but would like to know more about this side of the family. I have a photo of the family crest and would like to find where that came from. Also am interested in the connection with wing field castle through the sumpters.Can you help with this