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I am looking for information on my great-great grandparents Henry Terrell Hodge and Sarah Ann Pugsley who married in Devon in 1856. Henry was born 1828 and Sarah 1837. I have searched the 1841 census and found a family of Pugsleys in Harberton (father Thomas, mother Ann) which I think is Sarah’s family; however I have nothing on Henry’s family. Henry died in Plymouth in 1885. I cannot find a death record for Sarah but found an 1891 census record – it showed she lived at Woolster St, Plymouth with her son.
I would welcome information on their birth families and also on Sarah's death.
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hi,,,Henry was baptized in Harberton on the 4th may 1828.....his mother was called Mary...no fathersname is given.
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if she has a son Walter b c 1880,,,she is alive in 1901,,,but her birth year is given as 1841,,,,,
there is a death in Plymouth in 1920 of a Sarah A Hodge age 81 ? worth considering,, if we can find her in the 1911 census,,,then that would help. ;)
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hi,,,Henry was baptized in Harberton on the 4th may 1828.....his mother was called Mary...no fathersname is given.
Thanks for that. Clever researching. :D
The name Mary Hodge rang a bell. I looked again at the 1841 census records for Hodges living in Harberton and found a family - Abraham aged 36, Mary aged 47, Sophia aged 10, James aged 7 and John aged 10m. This could be Henry’s family – a slight possibility anyway. I found a likely record for Henry in the census. There is a Henry Hodge, male servant, aged 13, living with the family of William Whiteway, a farmer, in the parish of Harberton.
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if she has a son Walter b c 1880,,,she is alive in 1901,,,but her birth year is given as 1841,,,,,
there is a death in Plymouth in 1920 of a Sarah A Hodge age 81 ? worth considering,, if we can find her in the 1911 census,,,then that would help. ;)
Yes she did have a son called Walter. He was the 12-year-old son living with her in the 1891 census.
It could be her death record that you found. She would have been about 81 in 1920. Great if she lived to that age.
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Looks like Mary had 2 illegitimate Sons Baptised St Andrews, Harberton, Devon;
HENRY TERRELL Hodge, 04 May 1828
WILLIAM Hodge, 11 March 1832
2nd Baptism has Mary as a Servant, abode Harberton
Source FreeREG
1861 Census it appears William and Family are in Cornwall, he is down as born c 1832 Halberton, Devon.
There are several possible Marriages for a Mary Hodge 1832-1841 in Devon On Familysearch.Org
Trish :)
I dont think ABRAHAM/MARY Hodge on the 1841 Census are related to your Henry Terrell Hodge unless they are Uncle/Aunt.
They Baptised St Andrews;
Elizabeth 1824
William 1827
Sophia 1829
Sophia 1831
James Bickford 1833
John 1840
Source FreeREG
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In 1861 there is an unmarried Mary Hodge aged 68 (c1793 Harberton), retired, living in Heavitree.
She is the "joint occupier" living with Jane Timewell(?), a widowed retired servant aged 78, and her two middle-aged children. Jane was born in Teignmouth and the children in Exeter ... I was wondering whether Jane might be a sister. That Mary might be a tad old to be the mother of the children born c1830, but you never know.
In 1851, someone at Anc'y has corrected Jane's name to Timewell from Fimewell. It could be worth checking with that person to see whether they know Jane's name of origin, for instance, or know of any connection with the Mary Hodge in her household.
Something to keep in mind about Henry's name -- Terrell could be a surname in Mary's family, but it could also reflect the common practice of giving a child the father's surname as a middle name, when the parents were not married.
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Definitely some sort of connection
1841 Census
St Paul, Exeter, Devon
HO107/267/11/St Paul
James Timewell, 55, M S
Sarah Timewell , 20, F S
Sarah Tobey, 50, M S
Mary HODGE, 45, F S
Prob in the Household of Mary Granger, 80, Independant
1841 Jane Timewell age 55, Mary 15 and Henry 10 seem to be living in a separate Household in Exeter.
1861 Sarah T is born c 1817 Exeter
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Aha, I had found Jane Timewell in 1841 but not Mary Hodge. Of course, odds are probably that this isn't our Mary Hodge. Well, I shouldn't be so hasty. An unmarried Mary Hodge within the right age range, from Harberton. A pretty good candidate.
But ... I wonder whether there's any chance that the Terrell in Henry's name was really Timewell?
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Aha, I had found Jane Timewell in 1841 but not Mary Hodge. Of course, odds are probably that this isn't our Mary Hodge. Well, I shouldn't be so hasty. An unmarried Mary Hodge within the right age range, from Harberton. A pretty good candidate.
But ... I wonder whether there's any chance that the Terrell in Henry's name was really Timewell?
Thank you Janey, and Trish. You are certainly helping me work out Henry’s birth family. They didn’t make it easy for us, did they? I’m pretty busy over the next few days so haven’t got much time to take it all in, but will join the discussion again later. Thanks so much for your efforts :)
Polly
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Polly, just found your post: I'm descended from Henry and Sarah via their daughter Annie, who was my paternal Great Grandmother. Which one of their numerous children is your antecedent? I haven't verified much of the Hodge tree but I can pass on what I've got (mostly FreeCEN & FreeBMD). Sarah died in the March quarter 1920. Neil
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Polly, just found your post: I'm descended from Henry and Sarah via their daughter Annie, who was my paternal Great Grandmother. Which one of their numerous children is your antecedent? I haven't verified much of the Hodge tree but I can pass on what I've got (mostly FreeCEN & FreeBMD). Sarah died in the March quarter 1920. Neil
Thanks for your post Neil. I have to jog my memory a bit here – it’s been a while since I thought about Hodges and Pugsleys. I am descended from their eldest child – Elizabeth Ann Hodge. In 1882 she married John Howard in Plymouth, Devon. Their first child was my paternal grandfather John Henry Howard, born 1883. In 1885 the family shifted to Brisbane, Australia. Early in the 20th Century, John Henry moved to Wellington, New Zealand and married there in 1908. His mother, Elizabeth Ann, died in Brisbane in 1949 at the ripe old age of 91. I know that her mother, Sarah Ann Hodge (nee Pugsley), had many children. The 1911 census shows she had had 12 children – five of whom had died by the date of the census. What a life of hard work she must have had.
Polly :)
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I believe that makes us 3rd Cousins: Annie, Elizabeth Ann's sister, married John Henry Simmons, then down through their son Frank to my father Ian and so to me. I'll sort out what I have on the rest of the Hodges & Pugsleys.
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I believe that makes us 3rd Cousins: Annie, Elizabeth Ann's sister, married John Henry Simmons, then down through their son Frank to my father Ian and so to me. I'll sort out what I have on the rest of the Hodges & Pugsleys.
I have been searching in https://www.freereg.org.uk/ and by using a wildcard managed to find baptism records for the children of Thomas and Ann Pugsley (12 children - another large family :o). The listings are all from St Andrew’s Church Register, Harberton, Devon. (The mother’s forename for the first record is “Mary Ann”, not just “Ann” as is shown for the other children; but it is my guess that “Mary Ann” and “Ann” are the same woman):
4 Aug 1816 – Child: Mary Ann PUGSLEY – Abode: Harberton Ford – Father: Thomas PUGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Mary Ann – Register note: “Minister officiating: J C Hicks”
1 Mar 1818 – Child: Thomas PUGSLEY – Abode: Luscombe – Father: Thomas PUGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Ann – Register note: “Minister officiating: J C Hicks”
10 Oct 1819 – Child: Jane Elizabeth PUGSLEY – Abode: Harberton – Father: Thomas PUGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Ann – Register note: “Minister officiating: J L Tozer”
6 Jan 1822 – Child: Maria PUGGESLEY – Abode: Harberton – Father: Thomas PUGGESLEY, labourer – Mother: Ann – Register note: “Minister officiating: Wm Marshall”
8 Feb 1824 – Child: Susanna PUGSLEY – Abode: Harberton – Father: Thomas PUGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Anne – Register note: “Recording official: T B Murray is the clerk”
27 Nov 1825 – Child: James PUGSLEY – Abode: Harberton – Father: Thomas PUGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Anne – Register note: “Minister officiating: George Martin”
30 Dec 1827 – Child: Edmund POGSLEY – Abode: Harberton – Father: Thomas POGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Ann – Register note: “Minister officiating: Joshua Reynolds Johnson”
21 Feb 1830 – Child: Anna Maria POGSLEY – Abode: Harberton – Father: Thomas POGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Ann – Register note: “First wrote Henry as child’s name then scratched that out; Minister officiating: Joshua Reynolds Johnson”
14 Aug 1831 – Child: Charles POGSLEY – Abode: Harberton – Father: Thomas POGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Ann – Register note: “Minister officiating: Joshua Reynolds Johnson”
18 May 1834 – Child: Robert PUGSLEY – Abode: Harberton – Father: Thomas PUGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Ann – Register note: “Minister officiating: George Martin”
16 Jul 1837 – Child: Sarah Ann PUGSLEIGH – Abode: Harberton – Father: Thomas PUGSLEIGH, labourer – Mother: Ann – Register note: “Minister officiating: George Martin”
30 May 1839 – Child: Robert PUGSLEY – Abode: Harberton – Father: Thomas PUGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Ann – Register note: “Privately baptized JRJ; Minister officiating: Joshua Reynolds JOHNSON”
The baptism listing below is a little different. There was no father’s name and the father’s occupation was “Servant” (but this most likely applied to the mother, not the father):
28 Jun 1837 – Child: James POGSLEY – Abode: Harberton – Father’ occupation: Servant – Mother: Jane POGSLEY – Register note: “Privately baptized by me JRJ; Received into the congregation July 15 1837 by me George Martin; Minister officiating: Joshua Reynolds Johnson”
I would say that this child, James Pogsley, was the James Pugsley, aged 4, listed among the members of the Pugsley household in the 1841 census. My guess is that he was the illegitimate child of Thomas and Ann's daughter Jane Elizabeth Pugsley, born 1819. Jane was not in the house when the census was done – maybe she was a live-in servant at another household.
Another odd one is an entry for a child born 1813 with a different mother’s name (I see the abode given of Harberton Ford is also the abode for Mary Ann Pugsley, born 1816):
28 Mar 1813 – Child: Ann POGSLEY – Abode: Harberton Ford – Father: Thomas POGSLEY, labourer – Mother: Sarah – Register note: “Minister officiating: J Williams”
I didn’t quote the record sources for any of the above listings; the record sources were included in the register notes. This posting is long-winded enough without making things worse. :-[
Polly :)
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In 1861 there is an unmarried Mary Hodge aged 68 (c1793 Harberton), retired, living in Heavitree.
She is the "joint occupier" living with Jane Timewell(?), a widowed retired servant aged 78, and her two middle-aged children. Jane was born in Teignmouth and the children in Exeter ... I was wondering whether Jane might be a sister. That Mary might be a tad old to be the mother of the children born c1830, but you never know.
In 1851, someone at Anc'y has corrected Jane's name to Timewell from Fimewell. It could be worth checking with that person to see whether they know Jane's name of origin, for instance, or know of any connection with the Mary Hodge in her household.
Something to keep in mind about Henry's name -- Terrell could be a surname in Mary's family, but it could also reflect the common practice of giving a child the father's surname as a middle name, when the parents were not married.
Greetings all,
I agree with the comment that the Mary Hodge in the 1841 and ’61 censuses living with the Timewells might be a tad too old to have been the mother of Henry and William. That Mary Hodge would have been aged around 32 or more when Henry was born and even later when William was born, and I imagine that in those days it would have been quite unusual (and unacceptable) for an unmarried “respectable” woman in her thirties to have illegitimate children. :o
I have been doing some searching and have come up with another Mary Hodge in the 1841 census 8) She was a resident at the Kingsbridge Union Workhouse, Parish of Churchstow, Stanborough. Her occupation was female servant; she was aged 30 and born in Devon. I calculated that she would have been around 17 when Henry Terrell Hodge was born and 21 when William born, so her age was nearer what I would expect it to have been. What was interesting, too, was that this Mary Hodge had a baby with her – Susan Hodge, aged 21 days. If this Mary is the one we are looking for, then we can conclude that the baby with her was, like Henry and William, born out of wedlock. However, until more proof is found, it’s hard to know exactly who this mother and baby were. I have tried to find more information on them, but have so far had no luck. :-\
Any help would be welcome. ;)
Polly
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HODGE, SUSANNA
No mother's maiden name so probably illegitimate.
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in OF THE KINGSBRIDGE UNION Volume 09 Page 384
Susan was still in the workhouse in 1851.
Debra :)
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HODGE, SUSANNA
No mother's maiden name so probably illegitimate.
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in OF THE KINGSBRIDGE UNION Volume 09 Page 384
Susan was still in the workhouse in 1851.
Debra :)
Thanks for responding Debra. That was helpful. I looked to see if I could find a death for this Mary Hodge and found a registration that I strongly suspect might be her. A Mary Hodge died in the Kingsbridge district in the March quarter of 1855. Shame. :'( Would be nice to think she had lived a little longer and at least got out of the workhouse. I could at some stage order a copy of the death certificate, although I realise that such a certificate may have limited information. It may be difficult to confirm that she was Henry Terrell Hodge’s mother.
Wonder what happened to her daughter Susanna (Susan). :-\
Polly :)
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Hi Pollyhow,
The GRO search
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
now also gives age at death where it was stated, before the dates when it was recorded in the index itself.
These are the details of that death:
HODGE, MARY - age 50
GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in KINGSBRIDGE Volume 05B Page 193
That could be consistent with age 30 in 1841 if the age stated in that census was rough and if the age at death was perhaps also rough.
Age stated as 30 in 1841 could have been rounded down by as much as four years, by the census rules that year.
34 in 1841 and 50 in 1855 would be a pretty close match.
A possible match for that Mary in 1851:
Mary Hodge, 46, unmarried, household servant
born in Stokefleming (c1805)
living in Stokefleming, Kingsbridge reg dist
HOH Henry Webber, 47, widower, farmer
and Henry Webber's unmarried daughter Mary
(Mary mistranscribed by Anc'y as Henry)
Note that Susan Hodge in the workhouse in 1851 was born in Stokefleming.
HODGE, SUSANNA - no mother's surname
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in OF THE KINGSBRIDGE UNION Volume 09 Page 384
1861 census
Susan Hodge, 19, unmarried, apprentice, domestic servant
born in Kingsbridge Union
living in Blackawton, Kinsgsbridge reg dist
I suspect this could be her in the 1881 census
Susan Hawse, 40, unmarried, cook domestic servant
born in Kingsbridge, Devon, England
living in Stoke Damerel
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Numerous family trees at Anc'y have Mary Hodge born 1813 Harberton as the mother of Henry Terrell Hodge, and show her as having died in 1878 also in Harberton at age 65.
No sources are given, and these could all be mutually copied.
(Another tree shows a Mary Hodge born 1806 having a son John Hodge c1828.)
In 1871, Mary, aged 57, widow, is in Harberton with granddaughter Mary, aged 10.
In 1861, she is 48, in the alms house in Harberton, shown as widowed, with children Samuel 22, John 13, and Frank 9. John's birth was registered with mother Ponsford.
I would think that the oldest boy in that census is
HODGE, SAMUEL PONSFORD CASLEY mother PONSFORD
GRO Reference: 1838 D Quarter in TOTNES UNION DEVON Volume 09 Page 483
and the household in 1841 in Dittisham, Totnes reg dist, shows mother Mary 25, father William 30, bargeman, several other children, and (presumed) grandmother Mary Ponsford.
I don't think that is the correct Mary Hodge at all.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5WP-3B2
Mary Ponsford baptised 03 Oct 1813, Churston Ferrers, Devon, parents John and Mary
Not likely she had a child named Hodge in 1828.
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HODGE, SUSANNA
No mother's maiden name so probably illegitimate.
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in OF THE KINGSBRIDGE UNION Volume 09 Page 384
Susan was still in the workhouse in 1851.
Debra :)
Thanks for responding Debra. That was helpful. I looked to see if I could find a death for this Mary Hodge and found a registration that I strongly suspect might be her. A Mary Hodge died in the Kingsbridge district in the March quarter of 1855. Shame. :'( Would be nice to think she had lived a little longer and at least got out of the workhouse. I could at some stage order a copy of the death certificate, although I realise that such a certificate may have limited information. It may be difficult to confirm that she was Henry Terrell Hodge’s mother.
Wonder what happened to her daughter Susanna (Susan). :-\
Polly :)
Hi again,
I am happy to say that I now don't think the Mary Hodge, who died Kingsbridge in 1855, was the correct Mary Hodge. I think the correct one was Mary Hodge who died Totnes district, March quarter 1884, aged 72. At least I hope that's her.
Apart from the 1841 census already mentioned, I also found, in FamilySearch, some more records that I think apply to her. I note she was born in Stoke Fleming:
1851 census:
Place: Stoke Fleming – District: Kingsbridge – County: Devon
Household members:
Henry Webber – head – 47 – born Stoke Gabriel, Devon
Mary Webber – daughter – 20 – born Stoke Gabriel, Devon
Henry Farr – grandson – 10 – born Charleton, Devon
Mary Hodge – servant– unmarried – 40 – house servant – born Stoke Fleming, Devon
1861 census:
Residence: Little Cotton – Place: Stoke Fleming (freecen.org.uk shows Blackawton) – District: Kingsbridge – County: Devon
Household members:
Peter Luscombe – head – 26 – farmer of 26 acres – born Blackawton, Devon
Mary Luscombe – wife – 30 – born Stoke Canon (freecen shows Stoke Gabriel), Devon
Henry Webber – father in law – widower – 57 – retired farmer – born Stoke Canon (freecen shows Stoke Gabriel), Devon
Mary Hodge – servant – unmarried – 52 – house servant –– born Stoke Fleming
1871 census:
Place: Stoke Fleming – County: Devon
Household members:
Mary Hodge – servant – 60 – unmarried – born Stoke Fleming, Devon
Charlotte Knapman – servant – 17 – born Dittisham, Devon
1881 census:
Residence: Galmpton Green – Place: Churston-Ferrers – District: Totnes – County: Devon
Household members:
Emanuel Hall – head – 60 – born Churston Ferrers, Devon
Mary Hodge – servant – 69 – single –born Stoke Fleming, Devon
I’ve found some more records for her daughter Susan too - and some census records and a marriage record. Think she married a John Williams in 1878. But more about this later.
Polly :)
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I am happy to say that I now don't think the Mary Hodge, who died Kingsbridge in 1855, was the correct Mary Hodge.
I think the correct one was Mary Hodge who died Totnes district, March quarter 1884, aged 72.
At least I hope that's her.
Is this her probate details?
The Will of late Mary Hodge of Stoke Gabriel spinster died 17 Mar 1884 at Stoke Gabriel
Probate Date: 31 May 1884 sole executrix sister Charlotte Hodge spinster of Stoke Gabriel
1815 bp Stoke Gabriel Charlotte parents Robert Hodge & Mary
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5H5-QMQ
Charlotte Hodge age 85 b Stoke Gabriel living on own means
1901 RG13; Piece: 2065; Folio: 23; Page: 12
1891 RG12; Piece: 1707; Folio: 164; Page: 9
Charlotte Hodge died age 86 1902 Mar Totnes Devonshire
Charlotte Hodge
Burial Year: 1902 Stoke Gabriel, Devon
Cemetery: St Mary and St Gabriel
Relationship: daughter of Robert Hodge
Edited
Charlotte & Mary Hodge together on
1881 census living Myrtle Cottage RG11; Piece: 2171; Folio: 130; Page: 2
both born Stoke Gabriel , both occupations given as Lady With No Occupation
1871 RG10; Piece: 2116; Folio: 33; Page: 14
Charlotte occ land owner & Mary Hodge born Stoke Gabriel occ annuitant
visitors 4 Albany Place
Not too sure about these census entries might be Mary Hodge :-\
1851 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGNZ-J41
Chorlton Union Workhouse this Mary Hodge is also there 1861
RG 9; Piece: 2867; Folio: 95; Page: 1 - her age is 40 occ cook
Charlotte Hodge niece
1851 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGJ9-QW3
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I think I will change my username to Chopped Liver.
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HODGE, SUSANNA
No mother's maiden name so probably illegitimate.
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in OF THE KINGSBRIDGE UNION Volume 09 Page 384
Susan was still in the workhouse in 1851.
Debra :)
Susan Hodge age 9 is in Kingsbridge Union Workhouse
1851 HO107; Piece: 1875; Folio: 423; Page: 11
also on this census is a
William Hodge age 62 Slapton Devon, pauper – Is he a relation?
Susan Hodge 19 Kingsbridge Union occ. Domestic servant
1861 RG 9; Piece: 1422; Folio: 23; Page: 14
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7TZ-YVK
I’ve found some more records for her daughter Susan too - and some census records and a marriage record.
Think she married a John Williams in 1878.
Polly :)
Polly I think you are correct re: that 1878 marriage entry
Susan Williams age 40 born Kingsbridge, husband John, John Hodge age 11 noted as stepson
1881 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q276-159Z
This looks to be his birth entry with middle name there's no mmn given on GRO indexes
HODGE, JOHN HENRY -
1870 J Quarter in KINGSBRIDGE Volume 05B Page 215
Susan 29 William 9 & John Henry Hodge inmates Churchstow, Devonshire
1871 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5BM-NW9
HODGE, WILLIAM HENRY -
1861 S Quarter in KINGSBRIDGE Volume 05B Page 198
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Susan Hodge age 9 is in Kingsbridge Union Workhouse
1851 HO107; Piece: 1875; Folio: 423; Page: 11
also on this census is a
William Hodge age 62 Slapton Devon, pauper – Is he a relation?
Hi Ladyhawk,
I have looked at the 1851 William Hodge, pauper, census record that you spotted and have no idea who he was. Could be a relation, or maybe just a coincidence that another Hodge was in the workhouse at the same time as Susan. It would be good to keep him in mind though.
Chances are Susan’s son John Henry Hodge was born in the Churchstow institution (Kingsbridge Union Workhouse would it be?) – he was under one year old when they were there in 1871. Funnily enough, the Kingsbridge Union Workhouse appears to be where Susan herself was born in 1841. Like mother, like daughter; unwed mothers giving birth in a workhouse. Grim times. :(
Thanks for the information about the birth entries for Susan’s sons. I had seen that 1871 census record prior to this and noticed her son John has the middle name Henry. Now I realise William also had Henry for a middle name. As far as I am aware, Mary Hodge was the mother of three children – Henry Terrell Hodge born 1828, William Hodge born 1832 (both born Harberton – no father’s name) and Susan Hodge born 1841 in Kingsbridge. The fact that Susan chose the names Henry and William for her sons gives some hope of proving a sibling connection there. However, finding the identity of their mother Mary Hodge is proving to be a little more difficult.
Your information regarding the Mary Hodge who died March 1884 has lead me to believe that this is not the right one. I now see that there was a Mary Hodge, aged 81, who died March quarter of 1892, Totnes district. She’d be the right age. Another less likely is a Mary Hodge, aged 72, who died March quarter of 1882, Stoke Damerel district. Quite a lot of Mary Hodges to choose from – seems a common name in Devon.
Happy hunting,
Polly :)
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Hello all. Henry Terrell Hodge 1829 -1885 is my 2 x great granddad. I come down from his and Sarah's son Henry Thomas Hodge. I also live in Plymouth. I have my Hodge Family tree on Find My Past. With of course the pugsley's.etc etc
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Henry terrell Hodge's parents were Robert Hodge (1893-1851) and Mary Halfyard (1806-1881) that's why Halfyard has been used as a middle name further on in the family tree.
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Henry terrell Hodge's parents were Robert Hodge (1893-1851) and Mary Halfyard (1806-1881) that's why Halfyard has been used as a middle name further on in the family tree.
Hello Lesley,
Your comments are interesting. I have tried to find a match with the info I have but with no success. The baptism records for Henry Terrell Hodge and William Hodge don’t show father’s name, only mother’s, which makes me think the mother wasn’t married. I looked up the marriage of Robert Hodge and Mary Halfyard in FamilySearch and see they married in Exeter, which is not near Harberton where Henry Terrell and William were born. I found an 1851 census record for what looks to be Robert and Mary Hodge’s family and see their children were born in Exeter. Unfortunately, I have not been able to access your tree in FindMyPast so have not seen the info you mention about the name Halfyard used again in your tree. Have you seen the marriage cert for the Hodge-Pugsley marriage? I was wondering if it reveals the groom’s father - also Henry Terrell’s death certificate might show father’s name. I would like to believe what you say about Robert Hodge and Mary Halfyard being the parents but would need more proof. I would appreciate hearing more.
Polly :)
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Hello Polly. You made me revisit all of my records on Henry Terrell Hodge and family. I haven't looked at this part for years. Yes I agree there is no Father named on his baptism/birth. Also on his marriage. So it looks like I'm so wrong. This is brilliant in a way because I am now able to put my tree right. Now I'm also stuck on Mary Hodge. As for Henry's father has anyone looked at Henry Terrell? There are only a few in Devon. One in 1841 born 1801, married but living very close by to a Thomas Hodge born 1816 a tailor (Lamerton) Did Mary visit her brother? Meet Henry Terrell? I wonder what happened?
Think I'll be looking at these just to abate my curiosity. Brainstorming is definitely the way to go. 🤔😊
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Hello Polly. You made me revisit all of my records on Henry Terrell Hodge and family. I haven't looked at this part for years. Yes I agree there is no Father named on his baptism/birth. Also on his marriage. So it looks like I'm so wrong. This is brilliant in a way because I am now able to put my tree right. Now I'm also stuck on Mary Hodge. As for Henry's father has anyone looked at Henry Terrell? There are only a few in Devon. One in 1841 born 1801, married but living very close by to a Thomas Hodge born 1816 a tailor (Lamerton) Did Mary visit her brother? Meet Henry Terrell? I wonder what happened?
Think I'll be looking at these just to abate my curiosity. Brainstorming is definitely the way to go. 🤔😊
Hi Lesley,
It’s good you had a rethink. It is so easy to jump to the wrong conclusions and head off in the wrong direction. I have now received a death PDF for Henry Terrell Hodge. Thought there might be a faint possibility of it having his parents’ details but, unfortunately, no, it doesn’t. I does tell us however that he died at 6 Artisans’ Dwellings, Notte Street, Plymouth, which is the address of his son, the informant, your ancestor H.T. Hodge. It also tells us that he died of bronchitis/asthma. I could forward you a copy of the PDF if you like – let me know.
Have you a copy of the marriage certificate? They sometimes show fathers’ names. If you haven’t a copy, I may order one.
I did look into your suggestion of searching on ‘Henry Terrell’. A good thought, but I couldn’t find any strong leads. I finally ran out of steam. Have you had any success with it?
That's all for now,
Polly :)
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Hi Polly. I have seen the marriage certificate for Henry and Sarah on Find My Past. I have a subscription so can access all records. The original states no Father for Henry only Thomas for Sarah. Thomas Pugsley was also a witness. If I can I will send you a copy. I'm still looking at Henry Terrell as the Father but nothing jumps out at me at the moment. Will still carry on looking. One day the mystery may unfold. Here's hoping we can go back further. Also I would love to see his death pdf if you could send it please. 😊
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Hi Polly. I can't send the file. It's too big apparently. How do people share images on roots chat? 🤔
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Hi Lesney,
Just Personal message Polly and exchange email addresses and then you can send the files :)
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Thanks Trish. Will do. 😊
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Hi Polly. Trying to PM you but emails keep on being rejected as recipient email not found. Have you changed your email address? Lesley :)
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Hi Polly. Trying to PM you but emails keep on being rejected as recipient email not found. Have you changed your email address? Lesley :)
Hi Lesley,
I have just PM’d you again. Am mystified as to why my email is not found. I do receive emails from RootsChat so they must be up to date with my latest address. Here’s hoping it all comes right.
Polly