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Title: Look up request, 1911 Census, Horace White (Whyte), Godstone
Post by: mph555l on Wednesday 22 May 13 19:57 BST (UK)
Hello,
I've started looking into my tree again after a few years away.
Can someone with access to the 1911 census please look up my great grandfather Horace White (Whyte) ?

He was born ca 1877/78, and lived in the Godstone / Lingfield area.

I'm pretty sure he was married to Mary Ann Mileham, and I know they had a son Arthur Horace White(Whyte), my grandfather, who I can just remember when I was a child.

Very interested if the 1911 census has any further info.

Best Regards,

Ian Whyte.



 
Title: Re: Look up request, 1911 Census, Horace White (Whyte), Godstone
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 22 May 13 20:12 BST (UK)
We aren't allowed to do 1911 look-ups, due to copyright and legal restrictions.

Sorry!


But the indexes are free to search?
GenesReunited
FindMyPast
Ancestry
1911census.co.uk
Title: Re: Look up request, 1911 Census, Horace White (Whyte), Godstone
Post by: Lostris on Wednesday 22 May 13 20:17 BST (UK)
Heres the marriage, where the surname is WHYTE ...


Marriages Dec 1898   

MILEHAM  Mary    E Grinstead  2b 333   
WHYTE  Horace     E.Grinstead  2b 333
Title: Re: Look up request, 1911 Census, Horace White (Whyte), Godstone
Post by: Lostris on Wednesday 22 May 13 20:24 BST (UK)
as they married in 1898, they are together on the 1901 census:-

RG13 Piece 630 Folio 132 Page 2 Parish of Horne, dwelling - Hedgefront??

Horace Whyte 24 Head born E. Grinstead - a Milkman Cattle (sic)
Mary Whyte 21 Wife born Chester Le Street, Durham
Arthur Whyte 1 son born E. Grinstead
Fredk Bissett 16 Boarder



Never sure why the T's & C's for non-1911 arent a problem  ???

I see that his father James was a Milkman in 1881 census ....
Title: Re: Look up request, 1911 Census, Horace White (Whyte), Godstone
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 22 May 13 20:50 BST (UK)
Quote from: Lostris on Wednesday 22 May 13 20:24 BST (UK)
Never sure why the T's & C's for non-1911 arent a problem  ???

It's just RootsChat guidelines!
Fear of litigation, I presume

I think it's because the copyright of pre-1911 censuses is held by The National Archives.
But Brightsolid (owners of FindMyPast) hold the copyright for the 1911 census?
Title: Re: Look up request, 1911 Census, Horace White (Whyte), Godstone
Post by: mph555l on Wednesday 22 May 13 22:58 BST (UK)
Thanks everybody for all the info,

Some years back I made a real effort to trace my White/Whyte line back as far as possible, then I had to put the project on ice.

Only recently I have been thinking about filling in some of the gaps from the not too distant past and I realised I knew so little about Mary and Horace. I always assumed they only had one child, and I did not know Mary came from Durham. I wonder how they met ? Durham is a long way from Sussex/Surrey. Must be a fascinating story behind that I'm sure.

One of the few things I remember my late father saying about his grandfather Horace was how he used to pour himself a beer every night, and leave it to go flat on the table by the side of his bed. In the morning he would then drink it. He claimed it would lead to a long life. Not exactly socially acceptable behaviour today.

Also when Horace died and was laid out in the parlour, my father told me he remembered his father, Arthur giving Horace a shave in his coffin.

I find it very interesting my father never mentioned Arthur having any siblings, and if they had any children I wonder why my father never mentioned any cousins.

Anyway thanks again. I'm going see if I can dig a little deeper into Mary and Horace's lives,

Best Regards,

Ian Whyte
Title: Re: Look up request, 1911 Census, Horace White (Whyte), Godstone
Post by: Lostris on Thursday 23 May 13 09:15 BST (UK)
Is this one of the siblings?


Name - Elven R R Whyte

Spouse name - Mary J Pankhurst

Date of Marriage Registration - Jul-Aug-Sep 1930

Registration District of East Grinstead

Volume Number - 2b
Page Number - 345
Title: Re: Look up request, 1911 Census, Horace White (Whyte), Godstone
Post by: mph555l on Thursday 23 May 13 10:17 BST (UK)
Hello,

Yes I am quite sure Elven is a sibling. What an usual name. Find it so odd my late father never mentioned any uncle, or aunty. ???
I had a quick look, but have not found any children for Elven & Mary, or a recorded death of Elven.

Best Regards,

Ian
Title: Re: Look up request, 1911 Census, Horace White (Whyte), Godstone
Post by: Lostris on Thursday 23 May 13 10:41 BST (UK)
I couldnt see any emigration records, nor as you say death - and I checked alt spellings of surname and used ELV* as well .... surprised how many Elvis there were !

There was an Elv* Whyte in East London Electoral Roll in 1958 ....
Title: Re: Look up request, 1911 Census, Horace White (Whyte), Godstone
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 23 May 13 11:09 BST (UK)
Elven's birth....

Births Sep 1902   

Whyte    Elven Robert R         E. Grinstead    2b   141

His death has been transcribed as Elune,although it actually says Eluen.

Eluen Robert R Whyte  DOB   20 Jun 1902 Died Jun 1980 aged 78 in Crawley,West Sussex

Volume 18  page 1795
Title: Re: Look up request, 1911 Census, Horace White (Whyte), Godstone
Post by: mph555l on Thursday 23 May 13 11:24 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for this information.
A real puzzle my parents never mentioned him. At the time of his death we were living just down the road in Handcross.

Best Regards,

Ian